Hi all,
I am one of those who bought a GTA04 out of both curiosity and a feeling of
contributing to a project that, I feel, is important in many aspects. I
have read many emails from the community but as you guys say, I have not
done much more than contributing financially. the reason being that
Hi Bob,
Am 24.08.2013 um 02:10 schrieb Bob Ham:
On Sat, 2013-08-24 at 00:20 +0200, joerg Reisenweber wrote:
Can't you finally come up with some *suggestions* or - even
better - real actions that would help?
At present the community is beholden to a particular company which
produces
On Sat, 2013-08-24 at 11:21 +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Am 24.08.2013 um 02:10 schrieb Bob Ham:
We have schematics in a .pdf file but nothing else.
Yes. And the PDF is the source.
I don't believe this is the case. I believe the PDF was compiled from
designs that came from
On Friday, August 23, 2013 06:50:11 PM Lukas Märdian wrote:
Again, I'd like to out point to some website designs I did quite some
time ago, maybe for others to evaluate and improve upon:
GTA04 project page:
http://slyon.de/gta04/index.old.php
OpenPhoenux preorder/crowd-funding page:
Excuse me very much, I don't mean to offend anyone, I actually care
about project a lot.
I really appreciate the project and I would like to have a gta04 based device,
probably tablet. It's just too expensive for me now.
Recently I became a lucky owner of a freerunner, got one used, and
need
On Sat, 2013-08-24 at 11:26 +, Bob Ham wrote:
Even disregarding this reasoning, let's assume that it *is* just about
convenience. Why is that bad? Why would you not want to help people
take the GTA04 design and create a derivative? Why would you want to
make it more difficult?
I
Am 24.08.2013 um 13:26 schrieb Bob Ham:
There is a reason for stipulating this. Having to convert a work into a
format suitable for making modifications represents a barrier. It's a
barrier to freedom. It can be abused.
I don't understand that. The reason of open source is that you can
Am 24.08.2013 um 17:27 schrieb Bob Ham:
On Sat, 2013-08-24 at 11:26 +, Bob Ham wrote:
Even disregarding this reasoning, let's assume that it *is* just about
convenience. Why is that bad? Why would you not want to help people
take the GTA04 design and create a derivative? Why would
On 2013-08-24 18:32, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Am 24.08.2013 um 13:26 schrieb Bob Ham:
There is a reason for stipulating this. Having to convert a work
into a
format suitable for making modifications represents a barrier. It's
a
barrier to freedom. It can be abused.
I only see
On 2013-08-24 18:41, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Am 24.08.2013 um 17:27 schrieb Bob Ham:
I would appreciate it if you would answer my questions about helping
others create derivatives of the GTA04.
I think i have done this several times (spread over several mails) in
the
past hours.
Am 24.08.2013 um 20:42 schrieb Bob Ham:
On 2013-08-24 18:32, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Am 24.08.2013 um 13:26 schrieb Bob Ham:
There is a reason for stipulating this. Having to convert a work into a
format suitable for making modifications represents a barrier. It's a
barrier to
Am 24.08.2013 um 20:49 schrieb Bob Ham:
On 2013-08-24 18:41, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Am 24.08.2013 um 17:27 schrieb Bob Ham:
I would appreciate it if you would answer my questions about helping
others create derivatives of the GTA04.
I think i have done this several times
On 2013-08-24 18:53, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Only your mother is giving you convenience for free...
I find GNU to be overflowing with convenience.
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For the GTA04 adapter board you are already distributing the files
that Bob Ham is asking for (AFAICT - not an EE).
http://projects.goldelico.com/p/gta04-main/downloads/42/
The adapter board license (CC-BY-SA) is more friendly than the GTA04
board license (CC-BY-NC-SA).
So I'm wondering about
Am 24.08.2013 um 22:08 schrieb Paul Wise:
For the GTA04 adapter board you are already distributing the files
that Bob Ham is asking for (AFAICT - not an EE).
http://projects.goldelico.com/p/gta04-main/downloads/42/
The adapter board license (CC-BY-SA) is more friendly than the GTA04
On 2013-08-23 10:02, openm...@pulster.de wrote:
Its not out of Production, but production is stopped
Err..
What's the difference between out of Production and production is
stopped?
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Am 23.08.2013 um 12:10 schrieb Bob Ham:
On 2013-08-23 10:02, openm...@pulster.de wrote:
Its not out of Production, but production is stopped
Err..
What's the difference between out of Production and production is stopped?
Compare with a train:
stopped: is at the railway station and
On 2013-08-23 10:38, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Am 23.08.2013 um 12:10 schrieb Bob Ham:
What's the difference between out of Production and production is
stopped?
Compare with a train:
stopped: is at the railway station and waiting for a green light
I don't understand. What is the
El día Friday, August 23, 2013 a las 10:10:58AM +, Bob Ham escribió:
stopped?
Concerning stop, can we please stop this SPAM? If you (Bob) have a
proposal, how to continue, put it on the table and let's discuss this.
Thanks
matthias
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On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Bob Ham wrote:
I don't understand. What is the green light with respect to the GTA04?
That was already mentioned; money for components being available.
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On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 10:47:14AM +, Bob Ham wrote:
On 2013-08-23 10:38, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Am 23.08.2013 um 12:10 schrieb Bob Ham:
What's the difference between out of Production and production is
stopped?
Compare with a train:
stopped: is at the railway station and
Am 23.08.2013 um 12:47 schrieb Bob Ham:
On 2013-08-23 10:38, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Am 23.08.2013 um 12:10 schrieb Bob Ham:
What's the difference between out of Production and production is
stopped?
Compare with a train:
stopped: is at the railway station and waiting for a
On 2013-08-23 10:56, Paul Wise wrote:
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Bob Ham wrote:
I don't understand. What is the green light with respect to the
GTA04?
That was already mentioned; money for components being available.
The fact that there is *no* money was mentioned. Here you seem
Am 23.08.2013 um 13:18 schrieb Bob Ham:
On 2013-08-23 10:56, Paul Wise wrote:
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Bob Ham wrote:
I don't understand. What is the green light with respect to the GTA04?
That was already mentioned; money for components being available.
The fact that there
On 2013-08-23 11:27, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Am 23.08.2013 um 13:18 schrieb Bob Ham:
On 2013-08-23 10:56, Paul Wise wrote:
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Bob Ham wrote:
I don't understand. What is the green light with respect to the
GTA04?
That was already mentioned; money for
On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 13:45:20 +
Bob Ham r...@settrans.net wrote:
On 2013-08-23 11:27, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Am 23.08.2013 um 13:18 schrieb Bob Ham:
On 2013-08-23 10:56, Paul Wise wrote:
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Bob Ham wrote:
I don't understand. What is the
Am 23.08.2013 um 15:45 schrieb Bob Ham:
On 2013-08-23 11:27, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Am 23.08.2013 um 13:18 schrieb Bob Ham:
On 2013-08-23 10:56, Paul Wise wrote:
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Bob Ham wrote:
I don't understand. What is the green light with respect to the
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
h...@goldelico.com wrote:
Am 23.08.2013 um 15:45 schrieb Bob Ham:
On 2013-08-23 11:27, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Am 23.08.2013 um 13:18 schrieb Bob Ham:
On 2013-08-23 10:56, Paul Wise wrote:
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:47 PM,
Hi
What's going to cause the green light to go on?
People deciding to spend some money instead of complaining that it is
too expensive.
What is going to cause people to decide that?
branding.
But it's already good to have
a nice and clear website with downloadable PDF to print out posters
Am 23.08.2013 um 17:05 schrieb kardan:
On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 13:45:20 +
Bob Ham r...@settrans.net wrote:
On 2013-08-23 11:27, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Am 23.08.2013 um 13:18 schrieb Bob Ham:
On 2013-08-23 10:56, Paul Wise wrote:
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Bob Ham wrote:
Am 23.08.2013 17:05, schrieb kardan:
Fifth there is some expectation in the air me to come up with a new
website design. So I better stop here for the next hours to hack
something which will hopefully be better than what we have.
I doubt it will make the key change alone. But it's already
could everybody please stop answering without checking and fixing the damn
subject?!
THANKS!
/j
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On Fri, 2013-08-23 at 17:30 +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Am 23.08.2013 um 15:45 schrieb Bob Ham:
On 2013-08-23 11:27, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Am 23.08.2013 um 13:18 schrieb Bob Ham:
On 2013-08-23 10:56, Paul Wise wrote:
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Bob Ham
On Fri 23 August 2013 22:45:05 Bob Ham wrote:
I can't see anything that people will cause people to make that
decision. This is why I'm wondering what cause *you* see. You said
you're waiting. What do you believe is going to happen? What are you
waiting *for*? What is going to occur that
On the Road --- hns
Am 23.08.2013 um 22:45 schrieb Bob Ham r...@settrans.net:
On Fri, 2013-08-23 at 17:30 +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Am 23.08.2013 um 15:45 schrieb Bob Ham:
On 2013-08-23 11:27, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Am 23.08.2013 um 13:18 schrieb Bob Ham:
On
On Sat, 2013-08-24 at 00:20 +0200, joerg Reisenweber wrote:
Can't you finally come up with some *suggestions* or - even
better - real actions that would help?
At present the community is beholden to a particular company which
produces something the community depends on. That company has a
On Sat 24 August 2013 02:10:55 Bob Ham wrote:
On Sat, 2013-08-24 at 00:20 +0200, joerg Reisenweber wrote:
Can't you finally come up with some *suggestions* or - even
better - real actions that would help?
At present the community is beholden to a particular company which
produces
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