On Tuesday 10 June 2008 22:19, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote:
On 6/10/08, Ron K. Jeffries [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
the two smart phones are aprox equal on
-- wi-fi
But with limited usability on iPhone
-- accelerometer
But with limited usability on iPhone
-- bluetooth
-[ Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 06:02:34PM +0200, arne anka ]
So, how does the Freerunner UI stand in front of the iPhone's ?
What about the MobileMe initiative ? Do we have anything like that ?
I checked both openmoko and maemo, and Im more and more afraid of how
far we are (we = the FOSS
-[ Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 09:25:00AM -0700, Brian C ]
Once one uses a Treo or similar linked to an Exchange server
then one is spoiled by having email/contacts/calendar pushed to/from
your phone automatically. People choosing the Freerunner shouldn't have
to take a step backwards in this
Sigh. First off let me begin by saying I'm not comparing iPhone with
FreeRunner (but cud have since they both are... um.. smart phones! its quite
OK saying - apples with apples)
To those hyper-exasperated-over-comparison ppl, raving mad about subsidies,
even a $600 penalty struck iPhone is STILL a
On Tuesday 10 June 2008 17:02, arne anka wrote:
So, how does the Freerunner UI stand in front of the iPhone's ?
What about the MobileMe initiative ? Do we have anything like that ?
I checked both openmoko and maemo, and Im more and more afraid of how
far we are (we = the FOSS people)
On Wednesday 11 June 2008 10:12, Rahul Joshi wrote:
Sigh. First off let me begin by saying I'm not comparing iPhone with
FreeRunner (but cud have since they both are... um.. smart phones! its
quite OK saying - apples with apples)
To those hyper-exasperated-over-comparison ppl, raving mad about
Hehe... wrongly quoted. Forgiveness pls.
Rahul J
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Andy Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Err, what's that got to do with anything I said?
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-[ Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:47:56AM +0100, Andy Powell ]
I'm sorry but you're wrong. While it might eat a little cpu, it's not much.
Most of the work is actually done by the graphics card
Which is just another CPU which also need power. We are speacking
about embeded devices here.
== Off
On Wednesday 11 June 2008 13:24, cedric cellier wrote:
-[ Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:47:56AM +0100, Andy Powell ]
I'm sorry but you're wrong. While it might eat a little cpu, it's not
much. Most of the work is actually done by the graphics card
Which is just another CPU which also need
On 11 Jun 2008, at 09:34, cedric cellier wrote:
...
Anyway, I wouldn't call a way to easily share content like mails,
contacts, calendar events, and even files, a step backward. At the
contrary, this is one of the biggest trouble for me with FOSS.
Think about what a pain it would be to
Even the animations are not gratuitous waste of CPU : it helps the user
to understand what's happening. For instance, in the mobileMe video
presentation the user uploads a picture of a contact and then the
picture appears to flow right into the picture box of the contact detail
- this is not
[I trust this will not initiate a flame war.] Please?
iPhone v2 announced today. I'd like to understand
on a hardware basis ONLY (I grok the value of
free and open source) how does
the entry level $199 iPhone with 4GB
compare with Freerunner GTA02.
where I get lost is how much RAM iPhone
has vs
It's 8GB not 4 and it's $199 with a 2yr contract. Regular retail prices
have yet to be announced.
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Subject: comparing Apples and Oranges $199 iPhone Freerunner GTA02
$199 iPhone Freerunner GTA02
[I trust this will not initiate a flame war.] Please?
iPhone v2 announced today. I'd like to understand
on a hardware basis ONLY (I grok the value of
free and open source) how does
the entry level $199 iPhone with 4GB
compare with Freerunner GTA02.
where I get
On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 22:37:33 -0700 Ron K. Jeffries [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
[I trust this will not initiate a flame war.] Please?
iPhone v2 announced today. I'd like to understand
on a hardware basis ONLY (I grok the value of
free and open source) how does
the entry level $199 iPhone with
Hello,
I won't coment on the techical specs, but the pricing is in no way
comparable. The iPhone v2 might be 199$, but that's with a 2 year ATT
subscription. If you want a real comparison of the real device price, at
least double the iPhone price. There was some country where Apple had to
sell
It's 8GB not 4 and it's $199 with a 2yr contract. Regular retail prices
have yet to be announced.
as i understand, 199 is apple's price -- providers may subsidise the
iphone, too.
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In comparison to other phones on similar subscription plans $199 is quite a
steal.
That never ending list of specs! I'm no appleguy but I gotta hand it to 3G.
Rahul J
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Kalle Happonen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello,
I won't coment on the techical specs, but the
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*Subject:* comparing Apples and Oranges $199 iPhone Freerunner GTA02
[I trust this will not initiate a flame war.] Please?
iPhone v2 announced today. I'd like to understand
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:45:18 +0200, kenneth marken [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Tuesday 10 June 2008 07:37:33 Ron K. Jeffries wrote:
-- larger physical screen size (but about the same dpi?)
i do belive the iphone is lower dpi as the GTA02 is smaller in size, but
higher in rez.
--
Or you just use an infrared proximity sensor. I was thinking it might
be possible to do the same on the Freerunner with the accelerometers.
On 6/10/08, Raphael Wimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:45:18 +0200, kenneth marken [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Tuesday 10 June 2008
arne anka wrote:
It's 8GB not 4 and it's $199 with a 2yr contract. Regular retail prices
have yet to be announced.
as i understand, 199 is apple's price -- providers may subsidise the
iphone, too.
No, 199$ is a operator subsidised price.
from
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Lally Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Sheesh, what's with all the hate? I swear the open source community
should sometimes just be called the hater's club.
This page [1] is generally a good overview of the iPhone. Lets be
I do not understand this thurst for specs comparisons, since what's
interresting in Apple's product is generally the software.
So, how does the Freerunner UI stand in front of the iPhone's ?
What about the MobileMe initiative ? Do we have anything like that ?
I checked both openmoko and maemo,
So, how does the Freerunner UI stand in front of the iPhone's ?
What about the MobileMe initiative ? Do we have anything like that ?
I checked both openmoko and maemo, and Im more and more afraid of how
far we are (we = the FOSS people) from Apple and Google.
why should we compete with apple
cedric cellier wrote:
[snip]
So, how does the Freerunner UI stand in front of the iPhone's ?
What about the MobileMe initiative ? Do we have anything like that ?
[snip]
The MobileMe initiative was a far bigger announcement yesterday than the
3G iPhone. Once one uses a Treo or similar linked to
On 6/10/08, Ron K. Jeffries [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
the two smart phones are aprox equal on
-- wi-fi
But with limited usability on iPhone
-- accelerometer
But with limited usability on iPhone
-- bluetooth
But with limited usability on iPhone
E.g. you cannot use VoIP with iPhone, etc,
2008/6/10 Ron K. Jeffries [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
[I trust this will not initiate a flame war.] Please?
iPhone v2 announced today. I'd like to understand
on a hardware basis ONLY (I grok the value of
free and open source) how does
the entry level $199 iPhone with 4GB
compare with Freerunner
Robin Paulson wrote:
plus, can the iphone use usb in host mode? can i plug in a usb flash
drive, or an external modem?
From what I'm seeing on the specs page, the iPhone doesn't have any
sort of USB plug on it ... so unless they have custom plugs to
interchange between their 30-pin
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
i remember reading somewhere that the iphone's os can't run multiple
applications at once - sorry no source for this. did i get this right,
if i did, that's a major bonus to om/freerunner?
It's not that it can't... If I
On Tuesday 10 June 2008 23:19:54 Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote:
On 6/10/08, Ron K. Jeffries [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
the two smart phones are aprox equal on
-- wi-fi
But with limited usability on iPhone
-- accelerometer
But with limited usability on iPhone
-- bluetooth
On Tuesday 10 June 2008 23:42:30 Robin Paulson wrote:
2008/6/10 Ron K. Jeffries [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
[I trust this will not initiate a flame war.] Please?
iPhone v2 announced today. I'd like to understand
on a hardware basis ONLY (I grok the value of
free and open source) how does
the
Robin Paulson pisze:
[..]
i remember reading somewhere that the iphone's os can't run multiple
applications at once - sorry no source for this. did i get this right,
if i did, that's a major bonus to om/freerunner?
i think iPhone OSX allows to run multiple application at once (native,
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