Re: resolution preferences??

2008-06-10 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Tuesday 10 June 2008 02:45:20 Carsten Haitzler wrote: lots of devices out there with the same specs - or much better. 800x480 @3.2 or even 2.8 are out there and selling. on shelves - from major manufacturers. Show me one with GSM and Linux. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally

Re: resolution preferences??

2008-06-10 Thread Ilja O.
I'm sorry to break into your nice flamewar, but I've just wanted to ask: pro-QVGA people, are you serious? In two years (yep, that's when GTA03 will be released judging by GTA01-02) QVGA will be just like floppy drives on notebooks - totally non completive. And won't be because everybody *really

Re: resolution preferences??

2008-06-10 Thread Federico Lorenzi
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Ilja O. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Btw, QVGA won't cost much less (it doesn't now and in two years it could be, in fact, more expensive than VGA). That has been especially true of flash drives - I remember seeing a 16MB flash drive that cost more then the same

Re: resolution preferences??

2008-06-09 Thread elektrolott
The only reason for me considering the Freerunner is the VGA display. I don't car much about videos on portable devices, but I want a sharp large screen for navigation (maps), browsing (www), reading/composing (email). If people want video devices they can get plenty devices out there, but

Re: resolution preferences??

2008-06-09 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 18:51:58 + (UTC) elektrolott [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: The only reason for me considering the Freerunner is the VGA display. I don't car much about videos on portable devices, but I want a sharp large screen for navigation (maps), browsing (www), reading/composing

Re: resolution preferences??

2008-06-07 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
When I first saw the Neo's screen I was amazed by how crisp the graphics were and the shine on the Openmoko logo looked real to me. The first thing I tried was the terminal (of course) and I was happy that the text could be zoomed, and was still readable. I am short sighted and have seen

Re: resolution preferences??

2008-06-07 Thread Ortwin Regel
On 6/6/08, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: convince me vga is incredibly more useful than qvga. convince me you all have amazing eyesight! :) i am doing this because i am trying to listen to the community and if given a choice - choose the right way based on what you

Re: resolution preferences??

2008-06-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 00:02:14 -0400 Steven Milburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: This question is probably just because I misunderstood something you said before, but I'll ask anyway :) If it is acceptable to use QVGA, couldn't that basically be done without any hardware changes? I believe I

Re: resolution preferences??

2008-06-06 Thread rakshat hooja
The difference between the VGA screen of the Neo and the QVGA screens I have are very clear to me (with the VGA being clearly superior) when kept side by side. But for most of my activities including reading long emails the QVGA resolution is enough. So unless we have the processing power to run

Re: resolution preferences??

2008-06-06 Thread David Samblas Martinez
to be readable, also a let you more useful surface to develop any app(more buttons, menu items) I'm wrong with all that thoughts? --- El vie, 6/6/08, Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: De: Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Asunto: Re: resolution preferences?? Para: List for Openmoko

Re: resolution preferences??

2008-06-06 Thread NeoSleg
Honestly, if the freerunner did not have VGA screen but QVGA, I would not buy it ! For me, VGA is a must have feature. As other said, there are plenty of QVGA devices. I don't want one of them because of the resolution. I have a Dell Axim X5 and I'm really sad about the QVGA resolution (in

Re: resolution preferences??

2008-06-06 Thread Raphael Wimmer
Hi Carsten, I'd argue for a VGA screen for three reasons: On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 07:39:05 +0200, Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we can just drive the vga screen at qvga. no need for scaling - just change the output at the lcd controller level. 1. Greater flexibility. I can use

Re: resolution preferences??

2008-06-06 Thread NeilBrown
On Fri, June 6, 2008 3:39 pm, Carsten Haitzler wrote: we can just drive the vga screen at qvga. no need for scaling - just change the output at the lcd controller level. but it is a waste to pay for a vga screen when we won't use it. also it does look blocky. it isn't about glamo or not -

Re: resolution preferences??

2008-06-06 Thread rakshat hooja
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 2:07 PM, NeoSleg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honestly, if the freerunner did not have VGA screen but QVGA, I would not buy it ! But the freerunner does have a VGA screen and as per information in Steve's email mass production is about to start/ has started. The debate

Re: resolution preferences??

2008-06-06 Thread Sander van Grieken
Honestly, if the freerunner did not have VGA screen but QVGA, I would not buy it ! For me, VGA is a must have feature. As other said, there are plenty of QVGA devices. I don't want one of them because of the resolution. I have a Dell Axim X5 and I'm really sad about the QVGA resolution

Re: resolution preferences??

2008-06-06 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On 6/6/08, NeilBrown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, June 6, 2008 3:39 pm, Carsten Haitzler wrote: we can just drive the vga screen at qvga. no need for scaling - just change the output at the lcd controller level. but it is a waste to pay for a vga screen when we won't use it. also

Re: resolution preferences??

2008-06-06 Thread The Rasterman
anyway (or someone with their eye about 3cm from the screen)... thus my point :) --- El vie, 6/6/08, Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: De: Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Asunto: Re: resolution preferences?? Para: List for Openmoko community discussion community

Re: resolution preferences??

2008-06-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 16:17:40 +0530 rakshat hooja [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 2:07 PM, NeoSleg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honestly, if the freerunner did not have VGA screen but QVGA, I would not buy it ! But the freerunner does have a VGA screen and as per

Re: resolution preferences??

2008-06-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 20:16:15 +1000 (EST) NeilBrown [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Fri, June 6, 2008 3:39 pm, Carsten Haitzler wrote: we can just drive the vga screen at qvga. no need for scaling - just change the output at the lcd controller level. but it is a waste to pay for a vga

Re: resolution preferences??

2008-06-06 Thread Federico Lorenzi
How about keeping VGA, and making the screen bigger then 2.8? Just an idea, Federico On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 5:34 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 20:16:15 +1000 (EST) NeilBrown [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Fri, June 6, 2008 3:39 pm, Carsten

Re: resolution preferences??

2008-06-06 Thread Kalle Happonen
Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote: On 6/6/08, NeilBrown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, June 6, 2008 3:39 pm, Carsten Haitzler wrote: we can just drive the vga screen at qvga. no need for scaling - just change the output at the lcd controller level. but it is a waste to pay for a

Re: resolution preferences??

2008-06-06 Thread Adam Johansson
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 00:02:14 -0400 Steven Milburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: This question is probably just because I misunderstood something you said before, but I'll ask anyway :) If it is acceptable to use QVGA, couldn't that basically be done

Re: resolution preferences??

2008-06-06 Thread Scott Petersen
i'm asking the question if going down to a (relatively) low resolution screen would be an ok compromise. I would not be remotely as interested in a device which is not, at least, VGA. As another person mentioned qvga is too small to do any type of web browsing effectively. I currently use

Re: resolution preferences??

2008-06-06 Thread Dale Schumacher
] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 12:12:24 +0530 Subject: Re: resolution preferences?? The difference between the VGA screen of the Neo and the QVGA screens I have are very clear to me (with the VGA being clearly superior) when kept side

resolution preferences??

2008-06-05 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 11:50:43 +0200 Marc Bantle [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: quick question - would you prefer a qvga lcd (save a bit of cost) since we'e going to need to software-drive all graphics - the fewer pixels you have to fill, the better for speed. i'm really tossing up if the speed

Re: resolution preferences??

2008-06-05 Thread Steven Milburn
This question is probably just because I misunderstood something you said before, but I'll ask anyway :) If it is acceptable to use QVGA, couldn't that basically be done without any hardware changes? I believe I remember you saying the glamo does scaling, so couldn't you let SW treat the display