Re: Real world bluetooth range?

2007-03-08 Thread Sven Neuhaus
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will be happy to do so. Unfortunately I am slammed at work this week but will do this next week. Great. The device as shipped doesn't have many apps ready to use, but I'm sure there are command line utilities to poke and prod the bluetooth hardware. I really

debug board

2007-03-08 Thread Bryan Larsen
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Connecting_Neo1973_with_Debug_Board_v2 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debug_Board I really like the design. I was expecting a MAX232 and connector breakouts. For not much more work you have something much more functional. One warning though: Those

Re: coverage at linuxdevices.com

2007-03-08 Thread Attila Csipa
On Wednesday 07 March 2007 18:34, Ian Stirling wrote: As I understand it Andreas, the hackers lunchbox is including the dev board Could we get a photo of the dev board (or perhaps a pointer to the appropriate page, I couldn't find anything substantial in the wiki about

AGPS - protocol specs?

2007-03-08 Thread Nils Faerber
Hi! I am interested in doing a little research on the AGPS part. As far as I understood the used Hammerhead chip will dump out the more or less raw GPS data into userland which will then need to be post-processed in order to get the usual NMEA or whatever messages. Well the post processing can be

Phase 0 devices just running @100MHz?

2007-03-08 Thread Nils Faerber
Hi! I just had a first quick run on a phase-0 Neo and found that /proc/cpuinfo only shows ~100 bogomips. On other ARM based platforms using 2.6.xx kernels I know the bogomips are usually about the same as the CPU core clock MHz... Well this might be different here so I just wanted to make sure

Re: coverage at linuxdevices.com

2007-03-08 Thread Klaus Rautenberg
I read that all phase 0 phones are already in use and that the next devices are expected in late March or early April. Is there something like an order list to which we can register? I didn't found informations about how many devices will be available and we just want to ensure to be on the

Re: Phase 0 devices just running @100MHz?

2007-03-08 Thread Pierre Hébert
It doesn't seem so bad : my [EMAIL PROTECTED] shows 199bogomips, so at 200MHz 100bogomips seems correct (s3c2440 has the same cpu as s3c2410). I don't know if the bogomips indication is a value in which we can really trust, these little devices are really efficient even at 100/200bogomips.

Re: coverage at linuxdevices.com

2007-03-08 Thread Ian Stirling
Klaus Rautenberg wrote: I read that all phase 0 phones are already in use and that the next devices are expected in late March or early April. Is there something like an order list to which we can register? I didn't found informations about how many devices will be available and we just want to

Re: AGPS - protocol specs?

2007-03-08 Thread Nils Faerber
Ian Stirling schrieb: Nils Faerber wrote: Hi! I am interested in doing a little research on the AGPS part. As far as I understood the used Hammerhead chip will dump out the more or less raw GPS data into userland which will then need to be post-processed in order to get the usual NMEA or

Re: coverage at linuxdevices.com

2007-03-08 Thread मयंक जैन ( makuchaku)
On 3/8/07, Klaus Rautenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there something like an order list to which we can register? I didn't found informations about how many devices will be available and we just want to ensure to be on the shipment list for a Neo1973 for application developing.

Re: AGPS - protocol specs?

2007-03-08 Thread Ian Stirling
Nils Faerber wrote: Ian Stirling schrieb: Nils Faerber wrote: Hi! I am interested in doing a little research on the AGPS part. As far as I understood the used Hammerhead chip will dump out the more or less raw GPS data into userland which will then need to be post-processed in order to get the

Re: AGPS - protocol specs?

2007-03-08 Thread Lars Hallberg
Nils Faerber skrev: Exactly. Also relative positioning can be made much more precise using the raw data (AFAIK in the range of cm not m). Wow! If this is true, speed and direction can be fairly accurate calculated even at low speed. This makes orienting a map with the moving direction

Re: AGPS - protocol specs?

2007-03-08 Thread Martin Lefkowitz
Message: 10 Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 13:19:40 + From: Ian Stirling [EMAIL PROTECTED] The gpsd will output assorted parameters, including current position, ... You can take this - or even output from a nearby (1m) GPS, and the bitstream input and output to the GPS chip, and try to work out

Re: AGPS - protocol specs?

2007-03-08 Thread Martin Lefkowitz
Still confused on the term nearby GPS Marty Ian Stirling wrote: Martin Lefkowitz wrote: Message: 10 Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 13:19:40 + From: Ian Stirling [EMAIL PROTECTED] The gpsd will output assorted parameters, including current position, ... You can take this - or even output from

Re: AGPS - protocol specs?

2007-03-08 Thread Ian Stirling
Martin Lefkowitz wrote: Still confused on the term nearby GPS A completely separate GPS unit, that is nearby, close in location, with almost the same position, ... Its only purpose is to measure the GPS coordinates - lat, long, time, from which can be derived the satellite signals sent to

Re: AGPS - protocol specs?

2007-03-08 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Thursday 08 March 2007 20:18:50 Ian Stirling wrote: A completely separate GPS unit, that is nearby, close in location, with almost the same position, ... Its only purpose is to measure the GPS coordinates - lat, long, time, from which can be derived the satellite signals sent to the neo.

Re: AGPS - protocol specs?

2007-03-08 Thread Ian Stirling
Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: On Thursday 08 March 2007 20:18:50 Ian Stirling wrote: A completely separate GPS unit, that is nearby, close in location, with almost the same position, ... Its only purpose is to measure the GPS coordinates - lat, long, time, from which can be derived the satellite

Re: AGPS - protocol specs?

2007-03-08 Thread Martin Lefkowitz
OK, now I was the perpetrator of imprecise language. How do the two neo's communicate with each other -- the one that can see the GPS signal and the one that can't? Marty Ian Stirling wrote: Martin Lefkowitz wrote: Still confused on the term nearby GPS A completely separate GPS unit,

Re: AGPS - protocol specs?

2007-03-08 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Martin Lefkowitz writes: OK, now I was the perpetrator of imprecise language. How do the two neo's communicate with each other -- the one that can see the GPS signal and the one that can't? Not two NEOs -- one NEO and one GPS receiver that's used to get known data. Try to correlate the

Idea: Protective Screen Foil

2007-03-08 Thread Elrond
Hi, After talking to a few people on irc, it became obvious, that the screen is really superb. And to cite someone from irc: [...] you don't want to ruin that with fingerprints and scratches :-) So the obvious solution are screen protectors. I'm not very used to them, but I do