Why You May Not Want An iPhone

2007-06-19 Thread Denis Kot
http://www.forbes.com/home/wireless/2007/06/08/iphone-problems-apple-tech-wireless-cx_df_0611iphonemain.html -- Denis Kot denis?jabber.org.by ICQ: 13680126 Mobil: +375 29 6-1234-78 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Looking for a patron.

2007-06-19 Thread Santiago Crespo
El lun, 18-06-2007 a las 10:08 -0700, Jordan Anderson escribió: Hi Jordan, First of all: welcome to the OpenMoko project! I'm stoked on the OpenMoko project, and would like to take the plunge and get involved, but would like someone to help me along--show me where to start, what to do, etc.

Re: virtualization of OpenMoko...

2007-06-19 Thread Jan Masat
Hi, I believe the Ubuntu SDL package you're looking for is: libsdl1.2-dev You'll also need the build-essential package to compile the source. First I tried the manual installation... http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_under_QEMU#Manual_setup ...for which I also apt-get installed: svn gcc-3.4

New wishlist item: Side-mounted touch strip sensor

2007-06-19 Thread thomas.cooksey
Hi All, I've added a new item on the hardware wishlist: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wish_List_-_Hardware#Side-Mounted_Touch_St rip Add a touch strip sensor onto the side of the phone which can be used to scroll. By having it on the side you can use your thumb to scroll comfortably while

Re: New wishlist item: Side-mounted touch strip sensor

2007-06-19 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
That's exactly what I already was talking about in the dasher-thread, because this touchpad would be a cool device to control different things, especially for dasher text-input in 1D-mode (or 2D). Glad that you found a matching device. Imho it shouldn't be a problem for left-handed people, too.

Re: New wishlist item: Side-mounted touch strip sensor

2007-06-19 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Tuesday 19 June 2007 11:39:22 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is an idea which was floated on the SVHMPC list a few months ago. The only possible issue is those people who are left-handed. Perhaps a strip on each side would be the best way to go. :-) I think the HTC S620 has something like

Re: [SVHMPC] linux phone standard

2007-06-19 Thread Nils Faerber
Hi all! As one being loosely involved in the LiPS thing I probably should comment on it a little (but please do not take this official ;) First to what I/we have been doing with LiPS... It is now almost two years ago that we, i.e. members of the GPE project http://gpe.linuxtogo.org have been

Re: New wishlist item: Side-mounted touch strip sensor

2007-06-19 Thread Ortwin Regel
No, the PSP stick is crap. We don't really need anything analog, the touchscreen does that fine. What we could use are some decent, solid buttons and/or a d-pad. I could also see some applications for a Blackberry style wheel, for example volume control and scrolling. I don't think using a

Re: New wishlist item: Side-mounted touch strip sensor

2007-06-19 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
Yes, a kind of double rocker-push-button (is there a correct english word? ^^) would be fine, too. Not two buttons, but one button with 2 contacts (one on each side) and a neutral position in mid. Here's a picture I found via google, to imagine what I mean:

Re: New wishlist item: Side-mounted touch strip sensor

2007-06-19 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Thomas Gstädtner writes: Yes, a kind of double rocker-push-button (is there a correct english word? ^^) would be fine, too. Not two buttons, but one button with 2 contacts (one on each side) and a neutral position in mid. Here's a picture I found via google, to imagine what I mean:

Re: virtualization of OpenMoko...

2007-06-19 Thread Sameer Verma
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't tried it yet, but I presume that it should just work*. 1. Install VMware for Windows on your computer 2. Install Linux as the guest operating system. There used to be an Ubuntu image ready to go on the VMWare website. 3. Following the

Re: New wishlist item: Side-mounted touch strip sensor

2007-06-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ortwin Regel wrote: -snip- I could also see some applications for a Blackberry style wheel, for example volume control and scrolling. I don't think using a futuristic sensor would be a good idea because we already have an analog device without feedback which is the touchscreen. What is the

Re: New wishlist item: Side-mounted touch strip sensor

2007-06-19 Thread Joe Friedrichsen
On 6/19/07, Ortwin Regel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could also see some applications for a Blackberry style wheel, for example volume control and scrolling. I don't think using a futuristic sensor would be a good idea because we already have an analog device without feedback which is the

Re: New wishlist item: Side-mounted touch strip sensor

2007-06-19 Thread Thomas Seiler
Am 19.06.2007 um 11:39 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ... An 8-element capacitive sensor would work wonderfully and be easy to fab using either a Quantum QT411 (http://www.qprox.com/products/qslide_qt411.php) or Analog Devices AD7143

Re: New wishlist item: Side-mounted touch strip sensor

2007-06-19 Thread Jordan Anderson
My Japanese mobile has a touch strip, and I bought it in Q2 2004. It made scrolling through texts and sites very easy and the friction provided by the slightly rubbery strip made for some great feedback (touching a touch screen is different than sliding on a touch strip, despite the misleading

Re: New wishlist item: Side-mounted touch strip sensor

2007-06-19 Thread Ortwin Regel
On 6/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ortwin Regel wrote: -snip- I could also see some applications for a Blackberry style wheel, for example volume control and scrolling. I don't think using a futuristic sensor would be a good idea because we already have an analog device

Re: New wishlist item: Side-mounted touch strip sensor

2007-06-19 Thread Joe Friedrichsen
On 6/19/07, Jordan Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a touch strip on my HTC Excalibur, and one of the first things I did was shut it off -- simply handling the phone was causing the volume to go up and down, or my browser to go back. Obviously a personal thing, but with a physical

Re: New wishlist item: Side-mounted touch strip sensor

2007-06-19 Thread Thomas Seiler
Am 19.06.2007 um 21:26 schrieb Jordan Anderson: I have a touch strip on my HTC Excalibur, and one of the first things I did was shut it off -- simply handling the phone was causing the volume to go up and down, or my browser to go back. Obviously a personal thing, but with a physical

New wishlist item: Side-mounted touch strip sensor

2007-06-19 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
There is also the possibility to use a scroll wheel that can be turned about 30 deg in each direction. The more it is turned, the faster we scroll. But I would like a touch strip if we have enough GPIO pins (or SPI?) available. ___ OpenMoko community

Re: New wishlist item: Side-mounted touch strip sensor

2007-06-19 Thread Luit van Drongelen
If FIC doesn't want to make it, you can try and build it for yourself. There's SPI and I2C available as test/contact/solder pads on the GTA01Bv4 PCB IIRC. (hmm, too much abbreviations?) -- Luit On 6/19/07, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is also the possibility to use

RE: New wishlist item: Side-mounted touch strip sensor

2007-06-19 Thread thomas.cooksey
Ok, there seems to be 2 other possibilities, a rocker switch and a scroll wheel. Rocker switch: Have you ever used a cheap mouse with a rocker switch instead of a scroll wheel? If you have then you know how limited they are. They simply do not offer the same amount of control a scroll wheel or

Let's play...

2007-06-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
...Guess the OpenMoko Web Store URL! Sooner or later, they have to start selling. But from where? webstore.openmoko.org?? store.openmoko.com?? Perhaps an Fic site?? Lots of possibilities. If anyone finds the store under construction, should that info be shared?? Alan

Re: New wishlist item: Side-mounted touch strip sensor

2007-06-19 Thread Steven Milburn
It's been discussed here before (by me ;) ), but I think it's fitting to bring it up in this thread. Mounting a swipe fingerprint sensor on the side would provide the following: * A low-power way to unlock the phone while verifying the user should be unlocking the phone. * Enhanced, or at

Re: Let's play...

2007-06-19 Thread Tim Newsom
OR... They could have it being developed on an internal developer machine and not go live till they are ready. On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 18:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...Guess the OpenMoko Web Store URL! Sooner or later, they have to start selling. But from where? webstore.openmoko.org??

Re: Let's play...

2007-06-19 Thread Tim Newsom
Oh... And the neo1973 will probably be sold at some FIC site ... I mean... OpenMoko is not just for the neo1973 and they are only related because OpenMoko can run on the neo1973. Indeed, suns new java phone os and probably windows mobile will also run on the device. Plus, since its an FIC

Re: Let's play...

2007-06-19 Thread Christopher Tokarczyk
let's play read the mailing lists game: From: *Luit van Drongelen [EMAIL PROTECTED]*To: * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: *Jun 18, 2007 4:49 AM* Subject: *Re: How to buy/order Neo1973* Hello, You can't order yet, but we hope it'll be any day now. That's when. Where and how? On openmoko.com. - Show

Re: New wishlist item: Side-mounted touch strip sensor

2007-06-19 Thread michael
for non-invasive prototyping, there is also the usb port. On Tue, 19 Jun 2007, Luit van Drongelen wrote: If FIC doesn't want to make it, you can try and build it for yourself. There's SPI and I2C available as test/contact/solder pads on the GTA01Bv4 PCB IIRC. (hmm, too much abbreviations?)