I try to explain:
OpenMoko team is try to follow a project: they are not a firm like Nokia
or Motorola.
They are a little firm, but with a very innovative ideas in the mind.
This don't mean that all the people must to support their idea. You must
analyze your needs and to decide if you need
2008/3/18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
...in other words, it *is* intended strictly as a developer's plaything,
I completely agree with this strictly because of the battery life on the
gta01. If they ever had any intention of this being mass produced, they
would have got most of
2008/3/18, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I try to explain:
OpenMoko team is try to follow a project: they are not a firm like Nokia
or Motorola.
Oh they are very much like Nokia or Motorola. Like Nokia or Motorola
they respect their customers and don't want to make them pay for crap.
I was not speaking about this aspect. About this aspect I think they are
better, but I was speaking about firm dimensions.
2008/3/18, Jaroslaw Swierczynski [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
2008/3/18, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I try to explain:
OpenMoko team is try to follow a project: they are
This'll be my first email to the community, sorry for any mistakes.
Just to put things straight, I am **not* *a developer, I don't have any
experience with the Neo1973 or the Neo Freerunner. I haven't had the
chance to purchase anything, nor have I had the chance to provide
anything for the
2008/3/18, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I was not speaking about this aspect. About this aspect I think they are
better, but I was speaking about firm dimensions.
Yes, you point is very valid. There are some important differences
like experience, existing product base and number of
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On 18/03/2008, Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
land information new zealand is a government org that holds data on
roads and properties for the entirety of new zealand. they have
recently given permission to use their data
Am Di 18. März 2008 schrieb Robin Paulson:
land information new zealand is a government org that holds data on
roads and properties for the entirety of new zealand. they have
recently given permission to use their data sets in osm, with a caveat
that we include an attribution statement:
I'd like to ask - what is probability of Greerunner hardware to be
ready by the summer? (aka Will I have my Freerunner when GSoC
starts?)
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I (not affiliated with OM inc. at all) would say it's very probable,
90% or so that the gta02 will be selling at the begin of june.
I'm looking forward to it!
Edwin Lock
On 3/18/08, Ilja O. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd like to ask - what is probability of Greerunner hardware to be
ready by the
2008/3/18, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Yes, it plays many closed, proprietary formats out-of-the-box, but
none of the open formats like ogg vorbis, ogg theora, flac, speex,
dirac. So it does not play any of my music out-of-the-box, and I'd
prefer to support vendors that support those formats.
You're
This isn't another negative post about the delays, I promise.
I have loosely followed this project since somewhere around the middle
of last year. There were delays, they didn't tell/inform us. It was
very frustrating because I was in a situation like yours...I really
needed a new phone and I
I'd rather have a solid device 6 months down the line than a faulty
device
in 1 month.
I agree 100% with Andy. I don't want to buy a device and discover a major
issue a month after that. I don't want to have to wait for GTA02.1 or to
have to buy a new GTA03 3 months after GTA02 comes out
Just throwing my $.02 out there, but your first paragraph is exactly the
type of paragraph that I personally feel is what the community is
wanting/expecting from Michael in his community updates. Furthermore,
*if* they do find a showstopper bug, knowing that too would be nice as
well.
I honestly
Jonathon Suggs wrote:
Why? Don't know your exact situation but my guess is that even when the
FreeRunner is initially released it isn't going to be completely
polished anyway. So rather than get all frustrated (and build some
resentment toward the project like I did) don't put an artificial
I have to chime in here, I was trying to resist. :)
OpenMoko Inc. is a company that, right now, is treading unfamiliar
waters. On one hand, they're a newcomer to the phone market so they
don't have name recognition yet so they need to generate buzz in
order to get the word out around their
Dear Openmoko Community,
On Monday, I saw that the Openmoko mentoring application was accepted
by the Google Summer of Code program. I am considering applying as a
student for the 2008 Google Summer of Code to work on the Openmoko
project. I have read over the mailing lists and looked at the
How about a case that's part metal and part plastic? Make it plastic just
around
the antennas (which, IIRC are at the 'ends' of the phone) and metal everywhere
else?
Heck, it could end up having a *good* effect by being extra shielding between
the antennas
and the (noisy) electronics of the
On 18/03/2008, joerg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
a technical solution is sought, to display the corresponding
information whenever linz-sourced data is being viewed.
suggestions and comments, please
Put the characters as a set of virtual roads on any empty area (preferably
owned by
Well Said!
Could we just put up a paragraph like that (with a date!) on a page in the wiki?
Like http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Status ?
That's all I'm asking for. Somewhere I can go to, to see how the
openmoko hardware's doing. A Blog/RSS would be best, but the wiki'd be
fine.
On Tue, Mar 18,
OM's unusual in the sense that they're asking us to do three things:
1. Invest $400-600 in them.
2. Use their device in such a personal way -- a cell phone is as much
a part of my daily setup as my shoes or wrist watch.
3. Develop on it, in our usually too-rare spare time, unpaid.
In exchange,
Lally Singh wrote:
When someone says this should get fixed the *last* response to give
is fix it yourself.
Clearly the words of someone who's never attempted to complain about the
lack of a driver for their special hardware on the Linux kernel mailing
list. Fix it yourself is actually a
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 8:44 PM, Lally Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh sheesh. Why are you trying so hard to poison this project?
Read the rest of the response. I said the proper response is please
file a bug report. Or shove it on a wishlist. Someone spent time
trying to contribute
Lally Singh wrote:
Oh sheesh. Why are you trying so hard to poison this project?
Oh, please. If you want to entertain me with rhetoric, put more effort
into it.
I'm not poisoning this project, I'm simply adding a note of actual
reality here. If anything might have that effect, I'd
Hi Lally,
This is clearly my responsibility, and in fact there is such a page:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates
I confess I have been lax in the past few months and have not updated
since January, but the status is in fact the same as it was then.
There is some confusion as
Hi everyone,
I just received a status report from our VP of Marketing, Steve Mosher:
The Freerunner design is currently staged to go through Production
Validation Test (PVT). The hardware design A5 is, we believe, solid. We
are updating this design to A6 to maximize production yields.
The
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 8:52 PM, Lally Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yup, responding to my own post. I've got more to say on this.
This'll be it for a while, I want to see how this community's going to
go without me dragging it kicking screaming.
Growing up in a bunch of open-source
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Lally,
This is clearly my responsibility, and in fact there is such a page:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates
I confess I have been lax in the past few months and have not updated
since January,
I'm not too current on electronics manufacturing, but am I correct in
assuming this PVT is more of a ramping-up, factory thing? Or is it
more of an electronics sourcing/tooling sort of thing?
Also, good luck with the process and I hope it won't be too long
before the fun part of being a community
Matt Manjos wrote:
I'm not too current on electronics manufacturing, but am I correct in
assuming this PVT is more of a ramping-up, factory thing? Or is it
more of an electronics sourcing/tooling sort of thing?
PVT is typically the final test build before actual hardware production
starts. It's
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