The machine config file for gta01 and gta02 machines has been renamed
to om-gta01 and om-gta02 to reflect better the manufacturer of the
phones is actually Openmoko.
I thought FIC made the phones? Openmoko is software only.
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Q: Is there some new info. on current manufacture status ?
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Hello,
Does the recent image improve the neo1973 battery life?
In particular, when the phone is stopped, is the gsm chip still working?
Sorry for these questions, I use a image from January plus other apps
installed and hesitate to switch :-/
Thanks,
Gilles
Am Do 27. März 2008 schrieb andy selby:
The machine config file for gta01 and gta02 machines has been renamed
to om-gta01 and om-gta02 to reflect better the manufacturer of the
phones is actually Openmoko.
I thought FIC made the phones? Openmoko is software only.
AFAIK OM has an own
Hi,
as far as i know on the TomTom go devices is running Linux. So would it
be possible to rip out the TomTom applikation and get it to work on
Openmoko phone? It would be a great GPS application.
http://opentom.org/ - Projekt runnling apps on the TomTom Device. Why
not do it the other way?
Am Do 27. März 2008 schrieb Sebastian Hammerl:
Hi,
as far as i know on the TomTom go devices is running Linux. So would it
be possible to rip out the TomTom applikation and get it to work on
Openmoko phone? It would be a great GPS application.
Suggest this to TomTom, they probably can do
Hi,
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Sebastian Hammerl
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
as far as i know on the TomTom go devices is running Linux. So would it
be possible to rip out the TomTom applikation and get it to work on
Openmoko phone? It would be a great GPS application.
Why not use
Dnia Thursday 27 of March 2008, joerg napisał:
Am Do 27. März 2008 schrieb Sebastian Hammerl:
Hi,
as far as i know on the TomTom go devices is running Linux. So would
it be possible to rip out the TomTom applikation and get it to work
on Openmoko phone? It would be a great GPS
Dnia Thursday 27 of March 2008, Christ van Willegen napisał:
Hi,
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Sebastian Hammerl
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
as far as i know on the TomTom go devices is running Linux. So would
it be possible to rip out the TomTom applikation and get it to work
on
I am of the idea that a navigation system would be THE killer-app for
the openmoko, and I personally know many persons that would also pay
extra money to have a navigator on a phone. We have various
possibilities: we could try to make some sort of deal with TomTom,
write our own system based on
Hi all!
After hours of searching the web for information about the new Antaris GPS
chip I am still not sure if it will be possible to use the raw data output of
the ATR0635 (message type RXM-RAW) on the Neo FreeRunner. This message
should, according to the protocol specification [1], contain
Navigation and OSM data submittal?
What's wrong with tangogps? Sounds like it already does what you ask for:
http://www.tangogps.org/
Joseph
On 27/03/2008, ramsesoriginal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am of the idea that a navigation system would be THE killer-app for
the openmoko, and I
Am Do 27. März 2008 schrieb Marcin Juszkiewicz:
Dnia Thursday 27 of March 2008, joerg napisał:
Am Do 27. März 2008 schrieb Sebastian Hammerl:
Hi,
as far as i know on the TomTom go devices is running Linux. So would
it be possible to rip out the TomTom applikation and get it to
Hi,
2008/3/27 Marcin Juszkiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Dnia Thursday 27 of March 2008, Christ van Willegen napisał:
Why not use tangoGPS and OpenStreetMap maps?
Because OSM maps suxx? Lack details, lack streets, lack too many things to
be usable?
OSM is nice idea but it is only idea. It
Does tangogps submit data to OSM as well, because that would be great.
I'd imaging that the quality of data in OSM would greatly increase
after the Freerunner gets released.
2008/3/27 Joseph Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Navigation and OSM data submittal?
What's wrong with tangogps? Sounds like
Ok, this is really cool. I don't even noticed it 'till know :D
2008/3/27 Joseph Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Navigation and OSM data submittal?
What's wrong with tangogps? Sounds like it already does what you ask for:
http://www.tangogps.org/
Joseph
On 27/03/2008, ramsesoriginal
Dnia Thursday 27 of March 2008, joerg napisa³:
Am Do 27. März 2008 schrieb Sebastian Hammerl:
Hi,
as far as i know on the TomTom go devices is running Linux. So would
it be possible to rip out the TomTom applikation and get it to work
on Openmoko phone? It would be a great GPS
Does anyone know how m
2008/3/27 Marcin Juszkiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Dnia Thursday 27 of March 2008, ramsesoriginal napisał:
I am of the idea that a navigation system would be THE killer-app for
the openmoko, and I personally know many persons that would also pay
extra money to have
Dnia Thursday 27 of March 2008, Marcus Bauer napisał:
On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 14:05 +0100, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote:
Because OSM maps suxx? Lack details, lack streets, lack too many
things to be usable?
OSM is nice idea but it is only idea. It will never replace
commercial maps.
Hey,
On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 14:38 +0100, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote:
Dnia Thursday 27 of March 2008, ramsesoriginal napisał:
I am of the idea that a navigation system would be THE killer-app for
the openmoko, and I personally know many persons that would also pay
extra money to have a navigator
Dnia Thursday 27 of March 2008, Christ van Willegen napisał:
OSM is nice idea but it is only idea. It will never replace
commercial maps.
Have you seen the progress that's been made in The Netherlands?
Have you seen how it was done?
http://www.opengeodata.org/?p=223
Automotive
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And working phone operating systems can be bought from Symbian, Apple
and even Microsoft. And yet we develop a new one!
The whole point of Open Source is the freedom (and fun) to participate.
That's why I am opposed to
ramsesoriginal wrote:
I am of the idea that a navigation system would be THE killer-app for
the openmoko, and I personally know many persons that would also pay
extra money to have a navigator on a phone. We have various
possibilities: we could try to make some sort of deal with TomTom,
write
On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 14:46 +0100, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote:
The coverage of the Netherlands has already commercial quality (go and
have a look) - actually it is already better than commercial data and
in the US the governments TIGER data has been imported.
Compare that with other parts
2008/3/27 Marcin Juszkiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Dnia Thursday 27 of March 2008, Christ van Willegen napisał:
OSM is nice idea but it is only idea. It will never replace
commercial maps.
Have you seen the progress that's been made in The Netherlands?
Have you seen how it was
On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 14:57 +0100, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote:
It was not done by community but by commercial company...
But *now* it is Creative Commons licensed!
And to see what the community does within one year, here another nice
link, showing how Munich grew in an animated gif.
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And working phone operating systems can be bought from Symbian, Apple
and even Microsoft. And yet we develop a new one!
The whole point of Open Source is the freedom (and fun) to participate.
That's why I am opposed
On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 08:36 -0500, Tim Shannon wrote:
Does tangogps submit data to OSM as well, because that would be great.
Yes, you can to load the track logs into the JOSM editor, give them a
quick check and upload to OSM.
I'd imaging that the quality of data in OSM would greatly increase
Marcin Juszkiewicz ha scritto:
Because OSM maps suxx? Lack details, lack streets, lack too many things to
be usable?
OSM is nice idea but it is only idea. It will never replace commercial
maps.
hahaha! have you seen Holland on OSM recently? haha!
pc
--
Paolo Cavallini, see:
On Thursday 27 March 2008 15:05:58 Christ van Willegen wrote:
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
And working phone operating systems can be bought from Symbian, Apple
and even Microsoft. And yet we develop a new one!
The whole point of Open Source
Joseph Reeves schrieb:
Navigation and OSM data submittal?
What's wrong with tangogps? Sounds like it already does what you ask for:
it is NOT a navigation software and it will take long time to get it
really stable. tomtom is really good software and the maps are really
better.
Marcin Juszkiewicz ha scritto:
Automotive Navigation Data (AND) is a leading provider of location,
routing, mapping and address management are donating a street network of
the entire Netherlands. Yes, an entire country.
It was not done by community but by commercial company...
so what?
Am Do 27. März 2008 schrieb Sander van Grieken:
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
And working phone operating systems can be bought from Symbian, Apple
and even Microsoft. And yet we develop a new one!
The whole point of Open Source is the
On Thursday 27 March 2008 13:57, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote:
It was not done by community but by commercial company...
So what. It's the license that counts. The only thing that surprised me was
that OSM didn't shout it from the rooftops. If all it took was a bit of free
publicity to get other
Dnia Thursday 27 of March 2008, Andy Powell napisał:
On Thursday 27 March 2008 13:57, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote:
It was not done by community but by commercial company...
So what. It's the license that counts.
Sure that license is what counts. But I am tired of people telling that
On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:41:16 +0100
Paolo Cavallini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Marcin Juszkiewicz ha scritto:
Automotive Navigation Data (AND) is a leading provider of
location, routing, mapping and address management are donating a
street network of the entire Netherlands. Yes, an entire
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 09:43:19AM +, andy selby wrote:
The machine config file for gta01 and gta02 machines has been renamed
to om-gta01 and om-gta02 to reflect better the manufacturer of the
phones is actually Openmoko.
I thought FIC made the phones? Openmoko is software only.
as
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 01:54:15PM +0100, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote:
Dnia Thursday 27 of March 2008, joerg napisał:
Am Do 27. März 2008 schrieb Sebastian Hammerl:
Hi,
as far as i know on the TomTom go devices is running Linux. So would
it be possible to rip out the TomTom
Marcin Juszkiewicz ha scritto:
Here in Poland I would never try to navigate from point X to point Y with
data only from OSM as they are very fragmental now.
never!=now
pc
--
Paolo Cavallini, see: http://www.faunalia.it/pc
Noi ci troviamo con parecchie difficoltà con NGI http://www.ngi.it/
On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 13:02:54 -0400
Lally Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The openness is much appreciated!! The hack value of this phone is
really mind-boggling. IMHO It could become to this generation's young
hackers what the old Apple IIs and Commodores were to my generation.
As for the
On 3/27/08, Kristijan Krsteski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Q: Do You have some possible date when should We OpenMoko community buy
freerunner as mass market phone?
Q: Is there some new info. on current manufacture status ?
Thanks
On 3/25/08, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I have some
Somebody in the thread at some point said:
2. Actually, is there any hope of getting 3d acceleration out of the
graphics chip, or is that too bogged down with NDA-ness? Are we stuck
porting Mesa3D?
Chance, sure, but the NDA situation is pretty bad it turns out for the
Glamo.
4. Personally,
Maybe I just create a spares product?
with 3 batteries, and some other goodies thrown in?
What goodies would go in that bag?
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I dont believe the replacements have the columb counter.
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Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 10:05 PM
To: Clare Johnstone; List for Openmoko community discussion
Subject: Re: Price of the Freerunner spare
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Somebody in the thread at some point said:
2. Actually, is there any hope of getting 3d acceleration out of the
graphics chip, or is that too bogged down with NDA-ness? Are we stuck
porting Mesa3D?
Chance, sure,
steve schrieb:
Maybe I just create a spares product?
with 3 batteries, and some other goodies thrown in?
What goodies would go in that bag?
Well, if would have to decide I would like to see a spare LCD/touch kit.
The LCD is the most (mechanically) sensitive part and thus the easiest
to
Hi Kevin,
Libertarian as well here. The first charger I want to test is my iGo as
well.
A while back I discussed the fast charging issue with Engineering. I'll
revisit that issue and get back to you guys. My understanding ( rememeber
I'm marketing and have been appropriately lobotomized) is that
I've been using my GTA01 as my regular phone for quite a while and I've
got some
chips, a crease and a dim spot on the screen where I always tapped it to bring
the back light on. Having spare LCDs would be a good idea.
Quoting Nils Faerber [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
steve schrieb:
Maybe I just
Will,
On the web shop and the wiki I would like to see a list of suitable
replacements for the batteries ( nokia bl4,5,6 and clones) the charger,
the stylus, the headsets.
Steve
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Sent:
(Please note that I am copying this message to the OpenStreetMap
folk: http://openstreetmap.org as we will hopefully find more
GPS/mapping experts there. Please edit the list of recipients
if you need to.)
On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:24:56 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all!
After hours of
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fast
| charge. ( greater than 750ma I think... )
Right,
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| Somebody in the thread at some point said:
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| 2. Actually, is there any hope of getting 3d acceleration out of the
| graphics
On Donnerstag, 27. März 2008, steve wrote:
Maybe I just create a spares product?
with 3 batteries, and some other goodies thrown in?
What goodies would go in that bag?
In one of the first announcements there was a car holder (including a car
charger).
Do they still/already exist?
cheers
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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No the host controllers for 12Mbps and 480Mbps USB -- and firewire the
same -- are all set up around DMA, so bulk transport isn't so expensive
in CPU for any of them. As the
If the goal is to have only one kind of spares kit, I would put in:
1-2 batteries (100% original)
1 battery cover (100% original)
1 USB charger (if that is a special one)
no LCD
no other components (e.g. no USB cables, memory chips, they are
commodity)
I think resellers can put 2 or 3
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 6:05 PM, David Pottage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, March 27, 2008 1:33 pm, Christ van Willegen wrote:
Have you seen the progress that's been made in The Netherlands?
i.e.:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.375lon=5.24898zoom=17layers=B0FT
(yes,
Am Do 27. März 2008 schrieb steve:
Hi Kevin,
Libertarian as well here. The first charger I want to test is my iGo as
well.
A while back I discussed the fast charging issue with Engineering. I'll
revisit that issue and get back to you guys. My understanding ( rememeber
I'm marketing and
Hello!
What always fascinated me in multi-functional devices like Neo is that you
can do more with them than with separate devices. Some examples of such
synergy have already been discussed. Here are a few more ideas of this
sort: “more than a phone with a GPS navigator”. Sorry if some of
That's exactly what i wrote...
Am Do 27. März 2008 schrieb steve:
I dont believe the replacements have the columb counter.
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Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 10:05 PM
To: Clare Johnstone; List for
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 2:58 PM, joerg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Correct, it checks for 48k-OHM resistor on ID-pin of mini-USB, then enables
1A
instead of 100/500mA USB-standard.
You also may enable 1A-mode (and 500mA mode) via some small GUI-app IIRC.
This is possible via userspace with
Steve wrote:
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From: steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'List for Openmoko community discussion' community@lists.openmoko.org
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:30:33 -0700
Subject: RE: Price of the Freerunner spare parts
Yes,
The information about returns and defects etc needs to be shared. First,
OSM - sorry about offtopic
- growth of OSM data animations http://www.jabberworld.org/osm/
- from a standing start only 3 years ago i think progress is impressive
- fast flash viewer for OSM - http://www.afcomponents.com/components/umap_as3/
- GTA03 (with camera) will be ultimate OSM tool
On 3/27/08, David Pottage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, March 27, 2008 1:33 pm, Christ van Willegen wrote:
Have you seen the progress that's been made in The Netherlands?
i.e.:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.375lon=5.24898zoom=17layers=B0FT
(yes, there are houses on there...)
I was just about to ask, what would happen if I enabled 1A charging
when the Freerunner was plugged into a normal USB port? AFAIK some
devices do draw more then spec (USB laptop hdds come to mind), and
these seem to work fine.
Cheers
Federico
On 3/27/08, Kevin Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On
After reading the subject line, I almost flagged that as spam
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On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:50:14 +0100 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL
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i WANT to type waste.
i press w - but really my finger may easily hit q,e,a or s - maybe even r, d,
z
or t. as such every key has a center
ok, let me noodle on this a bit. I have some ideas.
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From: Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 11:41 AM
To: List for Openmoko community discussion
Cc: steve Mosher
Subject: Re: Price of the Freerunner spare parts
If the
Alexey Feldgendler wrote:
* Track recall: if the device stores all your movements (or a rough list
of areas visited) for the last few days, you could recall where you've
been, when you came somewhere and when you left, which is sometimes
handy. This includes finding that place again if you
Thanks, At one point I suggested that an ingenious person might change this
particular resistor check so that other chargers would work in fast mode (
if they were capable) I can't recall where that discussion ended up.
So for example, My moto mini usb is 850ma, So I would just turn off the
Thanks Kevin,
I recall asking engineering what would happen if somebody disabled this
check ( hey its open source) and the general impression was that if the
charger was not capable of fast charging then you would not have nice
outcomes. I think the worse case might be if you tried to draw more
| it is NOT a navigation software and it will take long time to get it
really stable. tomtom is really good software and the maps are really
better.
If you think is so good write to TomTom firm and ask them to make a port
of their software to OpenMoko: I think it is a work of their programmer
Somebody in the thread at some point said:
Thanks Kevin,
I recall asking engineering what would happen if somebody disabled this
check ( hey its open source) and the general impression was that if the
charger was not capable of fast charging then you would not have nice
outcomes. I think the
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:14 PM, Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote:
... as for navigation.. well, isn't there a libgarmin that can read
garmin maps directly? Can't NavIt do this now?
There is and NavIt can use it.
In fact, this is the right
Depends on the USB port. You may end up blowing some protection on your
motherboard, or worse. OTOH it may be just fine - my HP laptop has one port
rated at 2A to power external DVD and HDD. Most devices that draw 500mA have
a Y-cable so they can pull power from 2 sockets.
On Thursday 27 March
Alessandro Iurlano wrote:
Anyway I accept the idea of using commercial apps/maps until there's
nothing of usable for free and freely, since generally such tools become
useful when we're traveling in unknown places, and so that we can't map
on OMS without the help of others!
If everyone
I just want to make it clear: my python userspace app
(http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/CheckFastCharge-script) *won't*
automatically send you into fast charge mode. It automatically *asks*
you if you want to go into fast charge mode whenever a slow charger is
recognized. It also goes through a
I can't do anything but quote Marco on this: If you look at the area
where I live (South Tyrol, Italy), there are entire valleys missing. I
am more then willing to upload data to OSM, bnut till the data is
there, i have to navigate somehow..
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:44 PM, Marco Trevisan
(PLEASE CHANGE SUBJECT WHEN TOPIC CHANGES!)
I don't think the Neo would get damaged.
I think the only damage might occur to the charger, whether the charger
is a computer or a charger only. A charger (or computer) designed to
provide, say, 200mA might overheat if more that 200mA is drawn,
Engineering says: you can't have both, 1A charging _and_ protection for every
case of missmanagement (DAU, stupid user).
USB is specified for 500mA MAX. Period! (and devices have even to announce
when they want more than 100mA). Anyway a stupid charger consisting of a
transformer, a diode
Am Do 27. März 2008 schrieb Bobby Martin:
I just want to make it clear: my python userspace app
(http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/CheckFastCharge-script) *won't*
automatically send you into fast charge mode. It automatically *asks*
you if you want to go into fast charge mode whenever a slow
Steve,
Right, they don't.
Wolfgang
On Mar 28, 2008, at 1:04 AM, steve wrote:
I don’t believe the replacements have the columb counter.
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