Subject: Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions
Date: lun 19 mag 08 11:10:50 -0600
Quoting Travis Tabbal ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Carlo E. Prelz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Those apps are the heart of the phone, and I would not want to have
Also spracht Shachar Shemesh (Fri, 16 May 2008 08:19:31 +0300):
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
On Thu, 15 May 2008 20:58:48 +0300 Shachar Shemesh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
indeed. but most of the world does use languages that for display
purposes are 1 glyph per letter and happily
Rod Whitby ha scritto:
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
Well, I much appreciate your work and your openness with community,
unfortunately I can't say the same about Openmoko in this occasion
since this should be an Open company and so I'd have appreciated it
more if the decision would have
if this is a management decision, this means to me that this is a business
decision, so there is no place for community here IMHO, unless openmoko
wants to know community opinion...
all we can ask is to keep us updated with such important changes...
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) pisze:
[...]
I know
Hi,
Piotr Duda wrote:
all we can ask is to keep us updated with such important changes...
i followed this thread for a while and couldn't reproduce the
emotional twist it did in between.
I appreciate Openmoko's decision to deliver an X-based qtopia
(I still curious how it will perform in
I've just booted it for the first time, can't really say anything
about it yet, but the boot screen is perfect for me as an
Archaeologist :)
Joseph
On 19/05/2008, Ian Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have been using a FreeRunner for a few days with a pre-pre-alpha
snapshot of the ASU
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:39 AM, Carlo E. Prelz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The switch to QT
*requires* the abandoning of C in favour of C++, a language that I
personally find unsuitable for use.
QT is C++, but you can write your code in C and just use the various classes
to get GUI widgets.
Travis Tabbal wrote:
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:39 AM, Carlo E. Prelz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The switch to QT
*requires* the abandoning of C in favour of C++, a language that I
personally find unsuitable for use.
QT is C++, but you can write your code
liwei wrote:
On 一, 2008-05-19 at 16:27 -0700, Mike Montour wrote:
Ian Darwin wrote:
Thanks for posting your review. Perhaps you (or another Freerunner user)
can answer a few more questions:
How good is the audio quality when having a GSM voice conversation with
another person? Can the
2008/5/20 Ben Burdette [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Travis Tabbal wrote:
C++ is difficult to link against, so that limits the languages that you can
use for development. For instance, D has a hard time with linking to C++
(or did last I checked). C, on the other hand is far simpler to link to.
Not to single out one or two posters because they might not be the ones
who started this:::
The switch to QT
*requires* the abandoning of C in favour of C++, a language that I
personally find unsuitable for use.
QT is C++, but you can write your code in C and just use the various
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Travis Tabbal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:snip
I can write both good and bad code in most any language.snip
Really? Try writing good code in whitespace [1] or most of [2] :P
Anyway, regarding the app icons: perhaps it's possible to move those that
are used most
I did say most. :) There are a number of programming languages that almost
seem to have been designed to be difficult to write well formed code in. I
try to avoid them, and usually succeed. I won't get into details as that's a
little too far off topic and everyone has their own opinions on such
I've noticed that with GSM calls in general there is sometimes an echo. It can
be very pronouced or barely noticable. It may be hw or sw, but it may not have
anything to do with either caller's phone.
If it doesn't happen consistently and is not reproducable, it's likely the
network. IMHO.
The app icon idea should be optional, I know I personally have a tendency to
remember locations of icons. If the icon list is updated constantly with
the most accessed programs, then I might inadvertently select one program
thinking another should really be in that location. I think this is more
Speaking of needing a sharp nail or the stylus to type easily on the
keypad does that mean there is no support for turning the freerunner on its
side and the keyboard flipping and enlarging, like say the iphone does?
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Subject: Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions
Date: mar 20 mag 08 08:21:06 -0600
Quoting Travis Tabbal ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:39 AM, Carlo E. Prelz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The switch to QT
*requires* the abandoning of C in favour of C++,
Marc Bantle wrote:
...
I am aware that communicating decisions still is a challenging
task and can easily leave some parties disaffected, once an
organization has reached a certain size. So, no flame here.
...
Marc,
Very well put. I think this is the best way to read these events. No
Tuesday 20 May 2008 skrev Carlo E. Prelz:
snipsnipsnip
I write code as a job (have been doing that for longer than I wish to
remember). C and Ruby are my current tools.
Well... Why not use the Qt bindings for Ruby, then?
http://rubyforge.org/projects/korundum/
(also, i might make the
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Ian Darwin schrieb:
| I'd still very much like to see a way to turn it off, so it works the
same for letters as for numbers. It's annoying 90% of the time because
most of the person or street names I need to enter into Contacts are not
going to be
I can see exotic applications for this but certainly not enough to put
it into the phone. If you need it, add it via USB host, that's what
we've got it for. (Same is true for the railgun. ;) )
Ortwin
On 5/18/08, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 17 May 2008, at 22:17, Philippe Guillebert
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Well... Why not use the Qt bindings for Ruby, then?
http://rubyforge.org/projects/korundum/
Very cool. I've been thinking I might need a Ruby project for a while now. I
might have to give that library a
The problem is the same as with linear acceleration: You get an
increasing deviation over time.
Ortwin
On 5/18/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Instead of adding a compass to the device to be able to read spin about the
gravitational axis, would it not be easier to offset one of
Funny way to define the concept. I must disagree: if you use the various
classes
you write C++.
Fair enough. I have seen plenty of C code using C++ objects that I
didn't think of as real C++ code. It felt more like Obj-C to me, but
again, to each their own.
Subjectively (for me), it is
Speaking of needing a sharp nail or the stylus to type easily on the
keypad does that mean there is no support for turning the freerunner
on its side and the keyboard flipping and enlarging, like say the
iphone does?
The one has nothing to do with the other.
This
On Tuesday 20 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael Shiloh wrote:
I've just posted about the software update that has been discussed here
today, so I figured I'd take this opportunity to tell you all about my
blog:
Cool!
Here is another FAQ entry (with a few holes to be filled in):
What does ASU stand for anyways? It makes me nervous knowing that the
phones software shares the same initials with my rival University.
Richard
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Ian Darwin schrieb:
| I'd still very much like to see a way to turn it off, so it works the
| same for letters as for numbers. It's annoying 90% of the time because
| most of the
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Hi,
I'm wondering if the kernel has support for DVB-T USB receivers built in?
If yes, one can use an external USB DVB-T tuner to watch TV (even if
the channel isn't really good).
You wouldn't be very mobile, but that's not that big of a problem.
Thanks, David
I'd still very much like to see a way to turn it off, so it works the same
for letters as for numbers. It's annoying 90% of the time because most of
the person or street names I need to enter into Contacts are not going to be
listed. I promise not to write my next 850-page book on my Neo, so
ASU is literally the April Software Update. Three letter acronyms
give it more geek cred. :)
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Richard Reichenbacher
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What does ASU stand for anyways? It makes me nervous knowing that the
phones software shares the same initials with my
I thought it was the august update released early!
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Subject: Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions
ASU is
On Tuesday 20 May 2008, David Kepplinger wrote:
Hi,
I'm wondering if the kernel has support for DVB-T USB receivers built in?
If yes, one can use an external USB DVB-T tuner to watch TV (even if
the channel isn't really good).
You wouldn't be very mobile, but that's not that big of a
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 04:45:14AM +1000, Lorn Potter wrote:
If anybody knows the location of the files that QT contacts uses, or has
actually tried the QTopia Desktop with the new ASU image, please pipe
in! (Please don't guess, because you might cause somebody to waste a lot
of time,
Kevin Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Language DOES matter. We use English on this list...
Programming language. :)
Sorry if I wasn't clear on what I meant. I was refering to the generic case - be
it spoken language, programming language, painting, music, ... If you want very
active
The phone is in production. The samples people are getting are production
samples.
The biggest hurdle now is getting the factory to let us open the floodgates.
It's annoying but also utterly normal.
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On Tue, 2008-05-20 at 12:19 -0700, steve wrote:
I thought it was the august update released early!
Funny... I thought it was the August update released late =P
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On 5/20/08, Fredrik Wendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kevin Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Language DOES matter. We use English on this list...
Programming language. :)
Sorry if I wasn't clear on what I meant. I was refering to the generic case
- be
it spoken language, programming
Then it is probably time to ask the question: from a european user
perspective, will it be better to place (single-unit) orders directly at
Openmoko via the website or go via Pulster (official distributor no?)?
Rodolphe
Le mardi 20 mai 2008 à 13:48 -0700, steve a écrit :
The phone is in
Seems that there is an updated version of the Qtopia Desktop called Qtopia Sync Agent http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia4.3/qtopiadesktop/--- El mar, 20/5/08, Ian Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:De: Ian Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED]Asunto: Re: My Openmoko blog is aimed at helping Freerunner users get
Am Fr 16. Mai 2008 schrieb ian douglas:
MartinG wrote:
On Friday 16 May 2008 03:26:06 Carsten Haitzler wrote:
yeah. this is actually the bigger problem we face in the longer run.
standardising data stores and access to them etc. :)
I think this is a important point that should be
Am So 18. Mai 2008 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Instead of adding a compass to the device to be able to read spin about the
gravitational axis, would it not be easier to offset one of the
accellerometers from the centre of the device?
That way, the roll is uneffected and the yaw and
Am Fr 16. Mai 2008 schrieb Al Johnson:
On Friday 16 May 2008, ramsesoriginal wrote:
I was just wondering: we have seen the problems of encryptingcalls.
But what about decrypting them? Let*s say someone hasa method to call
you with some sort of encryption.. would it be possible to write a
I would like to know that, too. I have pretty good connection to China and
Taiwan, so I could easily arrange to get a Freerunner directly from there...
If you plan to ship phones to China from the US (or anywhere else) you'll have
to get an CCC certificate in order to get this working
On Tuesday 20 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am Fr 16. Mai 2008 schrieb Al Johnson:
On Friday 16 May 2008, ramsesoriginal wrote:
I was just wondering: we have seen the problems of encryptingcalls.
But what about decrypting them? Let*s say someone hasa method to call
you with some
Our web shop will direct you to both. you choose.
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Then it is probably time to ask the
Crane, Matthew wrote:
I've noticed that with GSM calls in general there is sometimes an echo. It
can be very pronouced or barely noticable. It may be hw or sw, but it may
not have anything to do with either caller's phone.
If it doesn't happen consistently and is not reproducable, it's
Carlo E. Prelz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
With regards to the second one, things differ from person to
person. For most of its life, the openmoko project has been based on C
and GTK, which I happen to be reasonably versed in. The switch to QT
*requires* the abandoning of C in favour of C++, a
0n Tue, May 20, 2008 at 01:42:12PM -0600, Vinc Duran wrote:
Wow. I had no idea Qtopia could sync with Outlook. That's going to make my
life much easier.
Will the Out-Of-The-Box Freerunner sync to Outlook ?
-aW
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