Re: Question about future devices (GTA03,04)

2008-06-03 Thread Tobias Pankrath
Since you're the guy working the electric schematics of the device, can I ask you to consider an FM radio receiver in future iterations, please? GTA04 or 05 or whatever. I believe, from a previous post to the list, that this is a particularly popular mobile-phone feature in India,

Re: Top Content page view of wiki

2008-06-03 Thread Kosa
Thank you Brenda! I myself use Icedove, wich is some kind of Debian fork of Firefox (somehow firefox logos and others were not "free enough" and the Debian team decided to use the source and but not the name. It was funny they named Icedove after Firefox). Anyway, I wonder if the engine

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-03 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 23:12:30 -0400 Lally Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: the day nvidia comes with open drivers for this... we can begin to take an interest :) Seen this? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7430768.stm

[OT] GPG Message signing / Keyservers

2008-06-03 Thread Andy Powell
I've noticed a few people are signing their messages and I have decided to follow suit. However I do have a question regarding the keyservers used. I picked one from the list at http://www.pramberger.at/peter/services/keyserver/network/ they all sync together automagically. The question is

Re: Question about future devices (GTA03,04)

2008-06-03 Thread cdr
Since you're the guy working the electric schematics of the device, can I ask you to consider an FM radio receiver in future iterations, please? GTA04 or 05 or whatever. I believe, from a previous post to the list, that this is a particularly popular mobile-phone feature in India, but

Re: FoxyTag

2008-06-03 Thread Mathieu Rochette
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 5:44 AM, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2 Jun 2008, at 12:06, Mathieu Rochette wrote: I recently discover the foxytag project . I'm wondering if this apps could run on the freerunner, if so I'll definitly buy one :D amAze will soon integrate foxytag but I

building openmoko kernel image

2008-06-03 Thread manoj kumar
Hello, I m trying to build openmoko image using the mokomakefile. I finsihed make setup . After that i had made some configuration changes in the mokodir/openmoko/trunk/src/target/kernel/config/defconfig-2.6.22.5. When i tried to make the image (make openmoko-devel-image), it

Re: Which gsmd will be used in future openmoko?

2008-06-03 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
By the way, this would be more suitable on openmoko-devel in my opinion... On Tuesday 03 June 2008 03:35:39 Bin Chen wrote: As discussed before, seems there is 3 gsmd outstanding... Actually, it's worse. We have 5 options :) gsmd, gsmd2, ophoned Qtopia, pygsmd Which one is going to be the

Re: [OT] GPG Message signing / Keyservers

2008-06-03 Thread Kosa
Yep, they automagically spread all over the world :) It might take some days, but it does. Cheers! Kosa - Un mundo mejor es posible - Andy Powell escribi: I've noticed a few people are signing their messages and I have decided to follow suit. However I do have a question regarding the

Re: Open Hardware

2008-06-03 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi, --- On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Lee Grime [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | There already exists a | community for open source IP cores for silicon at opencores.org. \-- In addition to: http://www.openhardwarefoundation.org/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source_hardware SK -- Shakthi

Re: Question about future devices (GTA03,04)

2008-06-03 Thread Mo Abrahams
Its all about 3g for me. HSDPA would be brilliant. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Which gsmd will be used in future openmoko?

2008-06-03 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Tuesday 03 June 2008 12:51:04 Bin Chen wrote: On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way, this would be more suitable on openmoko-devel in my opinion... On Tuesday 03 June 2008 03:35:39 Bin Chen wrote: As discussed before, seems there

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-03 Thread Chris Wright
The cost is probably on the order of paraplegia. And I wonder about the power requirements -- there haven't been significant advances in battery technology lately. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Question about future devices (GTA03,04)

2008-06-03 Thread Stroller
On 3 Jun 2008, at 15:15, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: ... we at EE are not deciding on key features of future products, we are provided with specs on what to design. Yeah, but you're the guys who can just slip the odd extra chip into the design without anyone else noticing. ;) If questioned

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-03 Thread Paul Wouters
On Tue, 3 Jun 2008, flexd wrote: the day nvidia comes with open drivers for this... we can begin to take an interest :) To be honest, (i myself do not really care if the drivers are open or not, i do not have the require level of geekyness to change them :p) i couldnt care less if the

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-03 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 08:54:20 -0400 Kevin Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: With Nouveau, wouldn't it give a future device video performance that equals or surpasses the current XGlamo? who says that the chip even resembles the desktop ones in terms of how it can be driven? just because it bears

Re: Question about future devices (GTA03,04)

2008-06-03 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
I'm just working on improving the schematics (like quite some other guys of OM staff), but we at EE are not deciding on key features of future products, we are provided with specs on what to design. Anyway your suggestions and requests will be noticed when posted in this list. cheers jOERG

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-03 Thread flexd
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) skrev: On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 23:12:30 -0400 Lally Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: the day nvidia comes with open drivers for this... we can begin to take an interest :) To be honest, (i myself do not really care if the drivers are open or not, i do not have

Re: Top Content page view of wiki

2008-06-03 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
kosa writes: I myself use Icedove, wich is some kind of Debian br fork of Firefox (somehow firefox logos and others br were not free enough and the Debian team decided br to use the source and but not the name. It was funny br they named Icedove after Firefox). Anyway, I wonder br if the engine

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-03 Thread Joachim Steiger
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 23:12:30 -0400 Lally Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: the day nvidia comes with open drivers for this... we can begin to take an interest :) yeah.. sounds nice.. shortly after hell has frozen over and nvidia started supporting any

Re: Which gsmd will be used in future openmoko?

2008-06-03 Thread Bin Chen
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 03 June 2008 12:51:04 Bin Chen wrote: On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way, this would be more suitable on openmoko-devel in my opinion... On

screenshots

2008-06-03 Thread wim . delvaux
Hi all, is there any page on the wiki that shows the current GUI state of OM ? Especially with the 'switch' to Qt I would like to know how both environments interact graphically. Thx W ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-03 Thread Kevin Dean
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 9:51 AM, flexd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) skrev: On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 23:12:30 -0400 Lally Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: the day nvidia comes with open drivers for this... we can begin to take an interest :) To be honest, (i myself do

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-03 Thread Robert Schuster
Hi. flexd schrieb: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) skrev: On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 23:12:30 -0400 Lally Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: the day nvidia comes with open drivers for this... we can begin to take an interest :) To be honest, (i myself do not really care if the drivers are open

Re: screenshots

2008-06-03 Thread Rahul Joshi
Don't know about other sites, but this one particularly comes to mind - http://monochromementality.com/index.php/blog/show/Day-One-Openmoko-Freerunner.html Rahul J On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 8:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, is there any page on the wiki that shows the current GUI state

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-03 Thread Robert Schuster
Hi. thomasg schrieb: And for those who think android will bring hardware support for new devices to the FOSS-world: forget about it. Google doesn't care about open source if it's not used to save costs. They didn't even release their own from-scratch-software as opensource - hell, they use

Re: screenshots

2008-06-03 Thread andy selby
is there any page on the wiki that shows the current GUI state of OM ? Especially with the 'switch' to Qt I would like to know how both environments interact graphically. None there at the moment, but you might want to keep an eye on scap.linuxtogo.org

Re: Question about future devices (GTA03,04)

2008-06-03 Thread Joachim Steiger
Stroller wrote: Yeah, but you're the guys who can just slip the odd extra chip into the design without anyone else noticing. ;) don't think so ;) If questioned just tell management that Classic FM is required to soothe the kernel penguins. well.. it adds power, space and cost and

RE: What will be shipped with FreeRunner?

2008-06-03 Thread steve
I'll ship the fancy laser styli at the begining and then I will switch to a plastic version. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vinc Duran Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 10:40 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: What will be shipped with

Re: Top Content page view of wiki

2008-06-03 Thread Kosa
You're right, you're. Icedove satands for Thunderbird as Iceweasel stands for Firefox. Thanks Kosa - Un mundo mejor es posible - Joe Pfeiffer escribi: kosa writes: I myself use Icedove, wich is some kind of Debian br fork of Firefox (somehow firefox logos and others br were

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-03 Thread Rahul Joshi
+1 Just the kind of thing I want to hear. On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 9:41 PM, Robert Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. thomasg schrieb: And for those who think android will bring hardware support for new devices to the FOSS-world: forget about it. Google doesn't care about open source

RE: Wisdom of crowds - the update

2008-06-03 Thread steve
well I am a big fan of the wisdom of crowds. I am a big fan of the army of davids That said, I also understand the limitations of these methods. My method is brutally numeric. this is my training. You begin with a demand forecast. Lets say X per week. actually, it's more

RE: QTopia Contacts issue

2008-06-03 Thread steve
Sounds like a nice idea. write some code. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Darwin Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 9:35 AM To: OpenMoko Subject: QTopia Contacts issue Now that I have so many contacts, it would be nice if you had more

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-03 Thread Robert Taylor
Wow, I didn't know that. Google does contribute to various open source projects, but they sure as hell don't seem to drink the punch. Thanks for the info, that completely defines my view of Android. And they use WINE to run android dev stuff on linux? My god - that beggars the imagination.

Re: using the openmoko neo101 in mass storage mode

2008-06-03 Thread martin-o23533
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:53:29AM -0700, Matt Mets wrote: I believe this has been discussed at some point, but there is a file-storage module that emulates a mass storage device: http://www.linux-usb.org/gadget/file_storage.html I don't see it included in the preview ASU package, but it

Re: [OT] GPG Message signing / Keyservers

2008-06-03 Thread Andy Powell
On Tuesday 03 June 2008 10:45, Kosa wrote: Yep, they automagically spread all over the world :) It might take some days, but it does. Cheers! Kosa Thanks ( x 3 ;) ) -- Andy / ScaredyCat pgpSeSRdlgLgx.pgp Description: PGP signature ___

Re: Wisdom of crowds - the update

2008-06-03 Thread JW
2008/6/3 steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So the crowd guessed 4000 GTA01? for linux developers only? nope it was 4000 gta02 in the first 2 months from sale date in total (that was the posed question) good to hear about all the niche / large purchaser interest coming through jw

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-03 Thread thomasg
No, you got me wrong in some points. I was talking about Picasa, Google Earth and the other Google software. The android SDK is widely open source, so there's nothing wrong about it. They don't have a chance to push a proprietary SDK out, because nobody would ever use it as there is no product

Re: using the openmoko neo101 in mass storage mode

2008-06-03 Thread ian douglas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: although maybe windows doesn't allow to download files from media players and may not allow to upload on cameras. XP SP2 connects my Sony DSC-V3 camera as a camera device, but ultimately, at the system level, is treated as a removable storage device -- I can copy

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-03 Thread Steven Kurylo
Google does contribute to various open source projects, but they sure as hell don't seem to drink the punch. Thanks for the info, that completely defines my view of Android. The kernel still uses the GPL, so they have to respect that. However the new hardware drivers could be done the same

Re: screenshots

2008-06-03 Thread Alexander Frøyseth
NICE pics :D Kevin Dean skrev: I think he was looking for pictures of the ASU. You can see some basic ones here http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/attachment/ticket/1432/qwerty-scramble-1.png and http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/attachment/ticket/1432/qwerty-scramble-2.png You can find a

Re: screenshots

2008-06-03 Thread wim . delvaux
In essense I was looking for pictures that give me an Idea of the OM user experience to drool over :) CU W ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

RE: Wisdom of crowds - the update

2008-06-03 Thread Lee Grime
Steve, You are assuming that neo customers follow a 1st order model. 2nd order would be +10x -5x +3x -1 sinc function. On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 10:34 -0700, steve wrote: well I am a big fan of the wisdom of crowds. I am a big fan of the army of davids That said, I also understand

Re: screenshots

2008-06-03 Thread andy selby
2008/6/3 Kevin Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think he was looking for pictures of the ASU. I was hoping that a Freerunner owner would post some ASU screenies on that site in future 2008/6/3 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In essense I was looking for pictures that give me an Idea of the OM user experience to

Re: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May)

2008-06-03 Thread Werner Almesberger
John Lee wrote: opkg-target update opkg-target install libjana-dev Sure beats the manual approach :-) A little while ago, I built a program that uses SDL, and this is what I came up with: for n in \ libsdl-1.2-0_1.2.9-r5_armv4t.ipk libsdl-1.2-dev_1.2.9-r5_armv4t.ipk \

Re: screenshots

2008-06-03 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is there any page on the wiki that shows the current GUI state of OM ? Especially with the 'switch' to Qt I would like to know how both environments interact graphically. There are some pics and videos by Einstein from freeyourphone.de: - http://tinyurl.com/66ktzl

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-03 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: And they use WINE to run android dev stuff on linux? My god - that beggars the imagination. I think he's talking about other applications. I think picasa uses wine. and google earth No, Google Earth is a native Qt application... Only Picasa uses

Re: Packaging third-party applications (Was: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May))

2008-06-03 Thread Dylan Semler
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 4:38 AM, Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought the Openmoko developer community would want to better than that ... Whats missing IMHO is a Repository Leadership clique, wherein a known group of people are responsible for some nice repositories that