[Om2008.9] rsync works but sync's again...

2009-02-05 Thread Matthias Apitz

Hello,

When I run from my laptop to sync to the FR:

$ rsync -rav --no-owner ~/Maps/OSM/ r...@moko:/media/card/osm/

it works fine; but if I run it again, it runs through all files again
and again:

...
9/275/161.png
9/275/165.png
9/275/176.png
9/275/177.png
9/275/178.png

sent 720917 bytes  received 568474 bytes  3433.80 bytes/sec
total size is 104783526  speedup is 81.27
$ 

$ rsync -rav --no-owner ~/Maps/OSM/ r...@moko:/media/card/osm/
building file list ... done
10/273/446.png
10/274/446.png
10/275/444.png
10/276/442.png
10/276/445.png
...

What is wrong with that? Thx

matthias
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Re: I took the plunge

2009-02-05 Thread Steve " 'dillo" Okay
> From: Sean Moss-Pultz 
> Date: January 31, 2009 6:45:03 AM PST
> To: List for Openmoko community discussion  
> 
> Subject: Re: I took the plunge
> Reply-To: s...@openmoko.com, List for Openmoko community discussion  
> 
>
>
>
> On 1/31/09 Stroller wrote:
>> On 31 Jan 2009, at 07:30, Steve 'dillo Okay wrote:
>> > > I picked up a Neo Freerunner & dev board today from the good  
>> folks
>> > > over @ PariSOMA here in SF today.
>> > > It was a little disappointing that the dev board came in a  
>> recyclable
>> > > paperboard box instead of the hardsided case.
>> > > Do they just not ship those anymore ?
>> No. Openmoko decided that the case didn't "add value" in a way  
>> that  was unique to Openmoko or central to their "core competencies".
>
> What it pretty much came down to was the price (most importantly  
> payment terms) and shipping were extremely high. Combined with the  
> fact that we added the NOR chip. Made us decided to create only one  
> product this time around.

That's understandable. That aside, the packaging is still quite well  
done and gives the FR much more of the feel of something that's been  
productized and much less a one-off.

At this point I've had it for a week and it basically is what I  
expected it to be. It's a Linux device that can be a phone and still  
has some rough edges.

I'm currently running FDOM 200809_20081023 as a rootfs and Om2008.9  
for GTA02 as a kernel.

>
> Thanks a lot for buying a FreeRunner, BTW!

NP. Thanks for making it :)

Steve


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Re: yaouh! 0.3 is out

2009-02-05 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Thursday, February 05, 2009 a las 07:02:02PM +0100, Francesco de 
Virgilio escribió:

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> Be patient with my poor English but... I don't understand all your
> explanation :(
> Is there a way to solve this issue? I don't know much about that file
> (%gconf.xml)... But the cl features of yaouh! 0.3 are calling me :D
> 
> I've opened the config tab on TangoGPS, pressed "Edit" after selecting
> the standard OSM repo, and I've pressed "OK" to confirm current
> settings. Incredible, I get a segfault:
> 
> on_combobox1_changed():
> *** on_combobox1_changed(): reponame: OSM
> http://tile.openstreetmap.org/%d/%d/%d.png
> Segmentation fault
> 
> and TangoGPS exits immediately. Now, I don't know if there are problems
> in the config file, if this is a known bug, or if it is shares his
> causes with Yaouh 0.3, but... something is not working in the right way.
> 
> Do you think that the segfault of TangoGPS 0.9.5 during the edit of
> repos settings is related with the impossibility of Yaouh 0.3 to catch
> the current maps from TangoGPS?

I really don't know; please file a bug report to the author of both,
tangoGPD and Yaouh;
CU

matthias

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Re: Camera and 3G

2009-02-05 Thread cruz
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 1:12 AM, Al Johnson
 wrote:
> reason 3G is unlikely in the near future. 3G will have to come at some point
> though, as telcos in some countries are hoping to turn off 2G.
>

The 2G frequency is a licensed band, telcos lease it from the
authority, which means once the contract is expired, telcos will no
longer be entitled to use the Frequency anymore. Why would a 2G/3G
operator want to dismantle its 2G network? Big money was invested on
building the 2G infrastructure, it is still generating revenue, unless
the OPEX for the 2G network is too high, but as far as I know most 2G
networks are still performing better than the 3G network. 2G also acts
(IRAT) as a backup role for 3G CS service when the 3G capacity is
reached maximum...

The only people who wish to see 2G being turned off are the people
like myself who hate being radiated by so many frequencies, I live in
Taipei, we have three 2G(GSM)/3G(WCDMA) operators, one CDMA operator,
one PHS, one Public Wi-Fi, many unlicensed home wi-fi...

Thanks,
cruz

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Re: yaouh! 0.3 is out

2009-02-05 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Hmm.. at the moment installing yaouh and tangogps leaves yaouh useless
because of the hard-coded addresses in tangogps..
Anyone have a working tango config file for these 5 repositories?

Thanks!

And thanks for crediting me for ideas in yaouh :)



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[2008.12] Kustomizer 0.2 released

2009-02-05 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Hi!

A new release of Kustomizer is made, see
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Kustomizer

Kustomizer is a script that converts your clean OM 2008.12
installation on Openmoko Freerunner into a usable
phone/pda/toy/something.
The script is licensed with GPLv2 licence. The applications that it
installs around the Net might have other licenses, check the original
sites for more information.
The first time you run Kustomizer, it installes opkg.org repository,
Illume-theme and terminal keyboard, files for better call audio
quality, xterm. Also a CPU resource bug is fixed (qpe). A restart is
required for this to take effect and Kustomizer will do this for you.
The second run will install the rest: loads of cool applications,
GPRS, link map direcories from µSD card, mokoservices and tap/untap
etc. You don't have to make the second run if you don't want.

Changelog:

# Version 0.2 - 2008-02-06
# CHANGELOG IN THIS VERSION
# (new) two run system:
# 1st run: illume-theme, wrench, qwerty are installed, opkg.org,
storage.conf/qpe-bug fixed. Then restarted
# 2nd run: user needs to start Kustomizer again (and switch
suspend/dim off!!) -> the rest is installed
# Rewriting the instructions
# General cleaning
# (new) ntpclient
# (new) http://www.opkg.org/package_121.html - MokoMaze
# (new) ttf-liberation-mono (vala-terminal uses this)
# (new) battery http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Forcing_fast_charge_mode
# (new) runs /media/card/customscript - the user can add his own stuff there
# (new) automatic prevention of suspend & dimming
# (update) yaouh - version update
# (update) neon - version update
# (remove) Finnish keyboard layout & dictionary
# (remove) custom scripts from card
# (remove) cellhunter - on FSO-based only?
# (remove) Guitartune - on FSO-based only and libfft fails to install
# (remove) fourier - libfft fails to install
# (remove) zomg and appmanager - less used..
# (remove) pingus - doesn't install
# (remove) mumpot - useless for most
# (remove) usbmode - battery replaces most of this
# (fix) watch checkrate changed from 1s to 2s
# (fix) libglade-2.0 -> libglade-2.0-0

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Re: [SHR] illume predictive keyboard is too slow

2009-02-05 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 16:48:36 +0100 Laszlo KREKACS
 said:

> 2009/2/5 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler :
> >> But there are other cases, where it is not that clear:
> >> ólt - pound (accusative)
> >> ölt - he killed ...
> >> olt - to graft
> >
> > sure.. maybe being an english speaker.. this doesn't bother me so much as
> > english is full of such words... 1 word can have 2 or 3 or even more very
> > different meanings. written the same way. only context lets you figure it
> > out. so to me i go "so.. what's the problem?" :)
> 
> Sure, many words can have different meanings. But you missed the point.
> 
> When english has multiple meanings of a word, you pronounce the same
> way, it is the same word.
> But with accents, you pronounce very differently because it is not the
> same word!

actually... no. there are cases where 1 word, written 1 way can have multiple
meanings and pronounced multiple ways... some examples:

row, wind, lead

use:

"i had a row on the lake!" <- ambiguous meaning when written. could mean you
rowed a boat on the lak, or had an argument on the lake. pronunciation is
different in the 2 row's, but when written, it's the same.

> The correct analogy for english would be:
> Lets assume the character 'v' is just an accented version of character 'n'.
> Now when you want to write "vice president", you always and up with
> "nice president".
> See the difference?
> 
> Better example: merge the character "e" with "a". I think you get the idea...
> ((
> Battar axampla: marga tha charactar "a" with "a". I think you gat tha idaa...
> Can you decrypt? Sure. By computer? Maybe. Was nice to read? I highly doubt
> it. ))
> 
> > i don't have the bandwidth to go solving every language on the planet's
> > input problems.
> 
> I didnt ask you to do so.
> I said, you cant just ignore the accents, because, most of the time,
> it is not a "modifier" of a char but a whole another character.
> 
> It is the same case what Helge at the beginning said for norwegian
> language (for/fôr, tå/ta).
> 
> I simply confirmed the same problem exists for other language too.

well hungarian created a more complex case with compound words that go well
beyond what german does. thats the problem :(

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Re: [SHR] illume predictive keyboard is too slow

2009-02-05 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 15:57:41 +0100 Helge Hafting  said:

> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> 
> >> Surely, when there is a kayboard anyway, a couple of extra keys won't
> >> cost much. Not if they are on all phones, instead of only "adapted" 
> >> ones. The americans can use the extras as application hotkeys.
> > 
> > oh its not the extra keys - its the variations in production. 
> I know. Which is why I suggest one single keyboard for all, with
> the maximum amount of keys instead of the minimum. That way, every
> language (at least every latin-based language) can have a normal keyboard.
> 
> No problem for the english - it will work fine. Their extra keys can be 
> blank, or used as hotkeys. Users with other languages can add whatever 
> they need - and in the correct location too.

that's not practical. have you SEEN all the accented characters available? its
moe than going to double the # of chars in a kbd. otherwise you then need a
compose mode where multiple keystrokes gives you æ or ø or ü or ñ etc. and its
a combo you need to learn. you still need to offer all the accents then on such
a kbd. like ~^'`",* (ãâáàäąå) which drastically will cramp the keyboard or make
it yet another row bigger for everyone. (in addition to some form of compose
key and specific compose logic).

i am not saying to do it - but to me that seems he job of specialised keyboards
per language, not a universal one.

> > just a change in printing whats on the keys is not free. software keyboards
> > are
> A project like openmoko have the option of leaving that to the users.
> Supply a sheet with small letter stickers for all languages, and a 
> printed sheet with where each letter normally go for the 
> software-supported languages.
> [...]
> 
> > it sucks. but "english" is the lowest common denominator and thus most
> > things tend to be built to support it - as   it tends to keep more people
> > happier than  some other setup. if there was enough volume to make enough
> > units for a particular language/locale/country - it'd be different. :)
> 
> I understand that there is little interest in making a phone 
> specifically for Norway, when the volumes are low. That doesn't mean the 
> lowest common is the best way. A keyboard with several extra blank keys,
> and the english qwerty printed on the keytops will work fine for the 
> large group of english-language users.  Norwegians like me will simply 
> put the "ø" and "æ" stickers on the 2 keys to the right of "l", and the 
> "å" sticker on the key to the right of "p".
> 
> Those who want a radically different layout, such as dvorak, take the 
> lid off and carefully rearrange the keytops. Same for azerty-layouts.
> 
> Programmable is better, but if someone wants real keys that depress with 
> a click, then this is possible too.

this would be the best solution - if its a hardware keyboard. a software
keyboard is always the most flexible... but its currently also probably the
least usable and not just because of software, but the fact a resistive screen
only accepts  touch at a time and typing will mean commonly 2 touches at a time
(as you press the new key before you release your finger on the old one). :(


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Re: [SHR] illume predictive keyboard is too slow

2009-02-05 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 16:59:45 +0100 Johny Tenfinger  said:

> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 16:48, Laszlo KREKACS
>  wrote:
> > I simply confirmed the same problem exists for other language too.
> 
> In polish, we are often communicating on IMs, SMSes, IRC, chats etc.
> without polish accents (ą->a; ę->e; ó [which is pronounced as "u"]->o;
> ś->s; ł->l; ż->z; ź->z; ć->c; ń->n). In SMS to have more chars in one
> message; in IRC/IMs to type faster or to ask, how to set polish
> keyboard layout in Linux ;D And some words without accents means
> differently after dropping accents (for example "laska" vs. "łaska"),
> but we don't have problems with communicating in that way.

cool. so you can "survive". if an engine let you lazy-type without chosing
accents and put them in for you (or you could type a whole word then just
select the one accented correctly) then this may save you time.

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Re: 2.6.28 kernel and modutils

2009-02-05 Thread Dylan Reilly
Yeah, I realized *just* after I sent the email that it was networking
that changed and not a kernel problem. Of course, now I have to figure
out why the interface is not coming up automatically.

Sorry for the noise.

On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Jan Vlug  wrote:
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> Did you try at the FreeRunner:
> ifdown usb0
> ifup usb0
>
> Then on your computer connected to the FreeRunner (as root):
> ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0
> ssh 192.168.0.202
>
> This works for me
>
>
> Dylan Reilly wrote:
> | I am attempting to discover a good set of modules to load when using
> | 2.6.28 as packaged through fso/shr. The tar.gz of the images do not
> | seem to contain enough module references in /etc/modutils to replicate
> | the base functionality that was present in 2008.12. Is there some list
> | I can reference as I am not well versed in what module does what?
> |
> | In the very least, I would like to have usb ethernet working so I can
> | get the rest working by trial and error :^) I can get the device to
> | register via usb networking by loading usbserial and cdc_ether.
> | However, I am presented with "no route to host" when attempting to
> | communicate over TCP/IP. I assume this means I am missing something
> | vital to the networking stack.
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Re: 2.6.28 kernel and modutils

2009-02-05 Thread Jan Vlug
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Did you try at the FreeRunner:
ifdown usb0
ifup usb0

Then on your computer connected to the FreeRunner (as root):
ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0
ssh 192.168.0.202

This works for me


Dylan Reilly wrote:
| I am attempting to discover a good set of modules to load when using
| 2.6.28 as packaged through fso/shr. The tar.gz of the images do not
| seem to contain enough module references in /etc/modutils to replicate
| the base functionality that was present in 2008.12. Is there some list
| I can reference as I am not well versed in what module does what?
|
| In the very least, I would like to have usb ethernet working so I can
| get the rest working by trial and error :^) I can get the device to
| register via usb networking by loading usbserial and cdc_ether.
| However, I am presented with "no route to host" when attempting to
| communicate over TCP/IP. I assume this means I am missing something
| vital to the networking stack.
|
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2.6.28 kernel and modutils

2009-02-05 Thread Dylan Reilly
I am attempting to discover a good set of modules to load when using
2.6.28 as packaged through fso/shr. The tar.gz of the images do not
seem to contain enough module references in /etc/modutils to replicate
the base functionality that was present in 2008.12. Is there some list
I can reference as I am not well versed in what module does what?

In the very least, I would like to have usb ethernet working so I can
get the rest working by trial and error :^) I can get the device to
register via usb networking by loading usbserial and cdc_ether.
However, I am presented with "no route to host" when attempting to
communicate over TCP/IP. I assume this means I am missing something
vital to the networking stack.

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Re: yaouh! 0.3 is out

2009-02-05 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
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Be patient with my poor English but... I don't understand all your
explanation :(
Is there a way to solve this issue? I don't know much about that file
(%gconf.xml)... But the cl features of yaouh! 0.3 are calling me :D

I've opened the config tab on TangoGPS, pressed "Edit" after selecting
the standard OSM repo, and I've pressed "OK" to confirm current
settings. Incredible, I get a segfault:

on_combobox1_changed():
*** on_combobox1_changed(): reponame: OSM
http://tile.openstreetmap.org/%d/%d/%d.png
Segmentation fault

and TangoGPS exits immediately. Now, I don't know if there are problems
in the config file, if this is a known bug, or if it is shares his
causes with Yaouh 0.3, but... something is not working in the right way.

Do you think that the segfault of TangoGPS 0.9.5 during the edit of
repos settings is related with the impossibility of Yaouh 0.3 to catch
the current maps from TangoGPS?

Regards,

Matthias Apitz ha scritto:
> El día Thursday, February 05, 2009 a las 06:23:49PM +0100, Francesco de 
> Virgilio escribió:
> 
>> Yes now it works, but it doesn't recognize any my TangoGPS's maps; I
>> have the "normal" OSM map and the CycleMap. Attached to this mail
>> there's my %gconf.xml (found in .gconf/apps/tangogps). I use the latest
>> version of TangoGPS.
>>
>> Regards ;)
> 
> You're suffering the same problem as I last night :-)
> the only usefull value in your %gconf.xml for this is:
> 
> Opencyclemap
> 
> there is no value at all for OSM and the value for Opencyclemap does not
> contain the other values, like base URL and invert;
> 
> all this is as well in tangoGPS but also in yaouh a bit crude and not
> very robust; tangoGPS works because it has its hardwired values if it
> can't find the values in %gconf.xml, have a look into tangoGPS's config
> page, you will see the URL and if you save the config it will be even
> written to the file %gconf.xml :-)
> 
> all not very robust :-(
> 
>   matthias

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Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-02-05 Thread Dylan Reilly
For what it's worth, I put an updated version on opkg.org [1]. Since
the last version, I: re-enabled seeking (UI for it still has some
bugs), made the mplayer back-end use mutagen as well, and stopped the
script that runs the program from exiting so enlightenment's start
feedback does not disappear so rapidly.

[1] http://www.opkg.org/package_1.html

On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 6:02 AM, Helge Hafting  wrote:
> Dylan Reilly wrote:
>> I am still in the process of making changes, but I have some packages
>> if anyone wants to try it. This version has the option of using a
>> gstreamer back-end (the default with the packaged config file) instead
>> of mplayer. By using gstreamer, CPU and memory load have been reduced,
>
> Before, mplayer took 40%-50% of cpu according to top.
> Now, pythm-bin uses 48%-49% instead. This when playing stereo .ogg
> The transitions are perfect though. Good for "The Wall", where
> background sound sometimes go on from one song to the next.
> [...]
>> [1] 
>> http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/audio/pythm_0.5.1-dmr-20090129_armv4t.ipk
>> [2] http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/audio/mutagen_svn-4350_armv4t.ipk
>>
>> In the mean time, I will keep hacking away at it.
>>
> Thank you for doing this - the player is getting really good now.
>
> Helge Hafting
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Re: yaouh! 0.3 is out

2009-02-05 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Thursday, February 05, 2009 a las 06:23:49PM +0100, Francesco de 
Virgilio escribió:

> Yes now it works, but it doesn't recognize any my TangoGPS's maps; I
> have the "normal" OSM map and the CycleMap. Attached to this mail
> there's my %gconf.xml (found in .gconf/apps/tangogps). I use the latest
> version of TangoGPS.
> 
> Regards ;)

You're suffering the same problem as I last night :-)
the only usefull value in your %gconf.xml for this is:

Opencyclemap

there is no value at all for OSM and the value for Opencyclemap does not
contain the other values, like base URL and invert;

all this is as well in tangoGPS but also in yaouh a bit crude and not
very robust; tangoGPS works because it has its hardwired values if it
can't find the values in %gconf.xml, have a look into tangoGPS's config
page, you will see the URL and if you save the config it will be even
written to the file %gconf.xml :-)

all not very robust :-(

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Re: yaouh! 0.3 is out

2009-02-05 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
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Yes now it works, but it doesn't recognize any my TangoGPS's maps; I
have the "normal" OSM map and the CycleMap. Attached to this mail
there's my %gconf.xml (found in .gconf/apps/tangogps). I use the latest
version of TangoGPS.

Regards ;)

Carlo Minucci ha scritto:
> Francesco de Virgilio ha scritto:
> 
>>  * Package yaouh md5sum mismatch. Either the opkg or the package index
>> are corrupt. Try 'opkg update'.
>>
>> Any hint?
> 
> my mistake
> 
> try now... i forgot to rename the file :)
> 
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Re: Camera and 3G

2009-02-05 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 05 February 2009, Javier Garcia wrote:
> any plan for a smartphone with camera and 3G?

I doubt you'll get a solid answer on that one until close to release (Osbourne 
effect has been mentioned) but GTA03 was rumoured to have camera, but EDGE 
(2.5G) rather than 3G. See the link below, and the rest of its thread, for the 
reason 3G is unlikely in the near future. 3G will have to come at some point 
though, as telcos in some countries are hoping to turn off 2G.

http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-December/038395.html

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Re: Camera and 3G

2009-02-05 Thread arne anka
> any plan for a smartphone with camera and 3G?

any plans to check the wiki?

> That would be cool!

_that_ would be cool.


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Re: [SHR] illume predictive keyboard is too slow

2009-02-05 Thread Johny Tenfinger
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 17:30, Laszlo KREKACS
 wrote:
> Unless you want to write (semi)official document.
> (like writing email to your boss, etc)

Then simply switch to terminal-based keyboard without dictionary and
with accents on right alt key (like in PC keyboard layout).

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Re: [SHR] illume predictive keyboard is too slow

2009-02-05 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
2009/2/5 Johny Tenfinger :
> but we don't have problems with communicating in that way.

Unless you want to write (semi)official document.
(like writing email to your boss, etc)

Best regards,
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Re: yaouh! 0.3 is out

2009-02-05 Thread Carlo Minucci
Francesco de Virgilio ha scritto:

>  * Package yaouh md5sum mismatch. Either the opkg or the package index
> are corrupt. Try 'opkg update'.
> 
> Any hint?

my mistake

try now... i forgot to rename the file :)

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Re: [Om2008.9] updating OSM data for tangoGPS

2009-02-05 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Thursday, February 05, 2009 a las 01:48:20PM +0100, Stefan Fröbe 
escribió:

> Hi Matthias,
> 
> neat little script for this great idea - I cleaned the output a little,
> added a simple "progress" and updated a tile's timestamp when it was checked
> sucessfully - now all that's needed is a little parallel wget to speed
> things up ;-)

parallel wget is an easy one; just modify the script that it can run
parallel (i.e. have  the file lastrun the number of magnification 2-17
appended) and fire up the script for each of the magnifications;

hey , it's UNIX :-)

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Re: [SHR] illume predictive keyboard is too slow

2009-02-05 Thread Johny Tenfinger
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 16:48, Laszlo KREKACS
 wrote:
> I simply confirmed the same problem exists for other language too.

In polish, we are often communicating on IMs, SMSes, IRC, chats etc.
without polish accents (ą->a; ę->e; ó [which is pronounced as "u"]->o;
ś->s; ł->l; ż->z; ź->z; ć->c; ń->n). In SMS to have more chars in one
message; in IRC/IMs to type faster or to ask, how to set polish
keyboard layout in Linux ;D And some words without accents means
differently after dropping accents (for example "laska" vs. "łaska"),
but we don't have problems with communicating in that way.

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Re: [QTE] better kernel?

2009-02-05 Thread Filip Onkelinx
hopefully mwester is just waiting for Qt4.5 to be released; today I  
received the message from Nokia that Qt4.5 Release Candidate is now  
available, and the first bullet point in the list of changes is '- Broad  
performance improvements'


On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 13:39:22 +0100, HouYu Li  wrote:

> Hi, Chris, I am using QTE 4.4.2 with the testing kernel from
> http://downloads.openmoko.org/testing/daily. It's almost perfect except
> wifi. You can try it.
>
> You can also use this image
> http://other.lastnetwork.net/OpenMoko/qtextended-4.4.2-gta02-rootfs-release-working-with_voip+jabber+gtalk+SystemRingTones.jffs2.
> This one has working bluetooth and rings. Fantastic!
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 6:01 AM, Andy Green  wrote:
>
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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>> Somebody in the thread at some point said:
>> | Hi,
>> |
>> | I used so far the uImage-gta02-gc7283981_mwester-stable.bin , it works
>> ok ,
>> | except the battery icon animates like is being charged (this happens
>> when I
>> | boot the FR, I could "fix" this, by connecting the charger for 1-2  
>> sec).
>> |
>> | Today, I tried the
>> | uImage-moredrivers-GTA02_andy-tracking-b72d8b4c5b7173a1.bin, the  
>> battery
>> | icon is stable, but the PM crashes when I go to the power settings.  
>> (as I
>> | see, I cannot even change the brightness)
>> |
>> | So, is there any kernel that works ok with the QTE 4.4.2 ?
>>
>> I guess the PM GUI stuff is choking simply because it doesn't know about
>> the new /sys paths in 2.6.28+ for this.
>>
>> There are several known problems in 2.6.24 branch we won't fix that are
>> fixed in andy-tracking.  So the recommended path for any distro to get
>> best performance is to uplevel to distro to work with andy-tracking.
>>
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Re: [SHR] illume predictive keyboard is too slow

2009-02-05 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
2009/2/5 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler :
>> But there are other cases, where it is not that clear:
>> ólt - pound (accusative)
>> ölt - he killed ...
>> olt - to graft
>
> sure.. maybe being an english speaker.. this doesn't bother me so much as
> english is full of such words... 1 word can have 2 or 3 or even more very
> different meanings. written the same way. only context lets you figure it out.
> so to me i go "so.. what's the problem?" :)

Sure, many words can have different meanings. But you missed the point.

When english has multiple meanings of a word, you pronounce the same
way, it is the same word.
But with accents, you pronounce very differently because it is not the
same word!

The correct analogy for english would be:
Lets assume the character 'v' is just an accented version of character 'n'.
Now when you want to write "vice president", you always and up with
"nice president".
See the difference?

Better example: merge the character "e" with "a". I think you get the idea...
((
Battar axampla: marga tha charactar "a" with "a". I think you gat tha idaa...
Can you decrypt? Sure. By computer? Maybe. Was nice to read? I highly doubt it.
))

> i don't have the bandwidth to go solving every language on the planet's input 
> problems.

I didnt ask you to do so.
I said, you cant just ignore the accents, because, most of the time,
it is not a "modifier" of a char but a whole another character.

It is the same case what Helge at the beginning said for norwegian
language (for/fôr, tå/ta).

I simply confirmed the same problem exists for other language too.

Best regards,
 Laszlo

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Re: yaouh! 0.3 is out

2009-02-05 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
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Hi Carlo,
this is one of my favourite apps :D
But, when I try to install it from opkg.org on my 2008.12:

r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install python-pygtk curl
http://minucci.net/file/opkg/yaouh_0.3_all.opk

Downloading http://minucci.net/file/opkg/yaouh_0.3_all.opk
Package python-pygtk (2.10.4-ml8) installed in root is up to date.
Package curl (7.18.2-r0) installed in root is up to date.
Multiple packages (yaouh and yaouh) providing same name marked HOLD or
PREFER.  Using latest.
Multiple packages (yaouh and yaouh) providing same name marked HOLD or
PREFER.  Using latest.
Multiple packages (yaouh and yaouh) providing same name marked HOLD or
PREFER.  Using latest.
Upgrading yaouh on root from 0.2.1 to 0.3...
Collected errors:
 * Package yaouh md5sum mismatch. Either the opkg or the package index
are corrupt. Try 'opkg update'.

Any hint?

Carlo Minucci ha scritto:
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh!
> a new version is available
> 
> now you can choise repository for updating
> 
> need feedback for repository function
> 
> thank a lot to florian schweikert for help me
> 
> see you
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Camera and 3G

2009-02-05 Thread Javier Garcia
Hi,

any plan for a smartphone with camera and 3G?

That would be cool!

Bye



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Debug Boards 50% off from Truebox

2009-02-05 Thread Antony King
Hi All,

We're having a bit of a clearout of the warehouse, and have rather more debug 
boards than is strictly sensible. Therefore, we are reducing them from £88 to 
£44 + vat & delivery until 23rd feb. In the UK that's £67.85 all in - see [1] 
below. We take most debit/credit cards, and would expect to dispatch these 
within 2-3 working days weather permitting.

These are the normal version 3 debug boards [2] that support serial console 
and jtag interface for reprogramming NOR flash etc.

Antony.

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[1] https://www.truebox.co.uk/trueboxportal/index.php?wk=shop&thiscat=8
[2] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debug_Board_v3

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Re: [SHR] illume predictive keyboard is too slow

2009-02-05 Thread Helge Hafting
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:

>> Surely, when there is a kayboard anyway, a couple of extra keys won't
>> cost much. Not if they are on all phones, instead of only "adapted" 
>> ones. The americans can use the extras as application hotkeys.
> 
> oh its not the extra keys - its the variations in production. 
I know. Which is why I suggest one single keyboard for all, with
the maximum amount of keys instead of the minimum. That way, every
language (at least every latin-based language) can have a normal keyboard.

No problem for the english - it will work fine. Their extra keys can be 
blank, or used as hotkeys. Users with other languages can add whatever 
they need - and in the correct location too.


> just a change in printing whats on the keys is not free. software keyboards 
> are
A project like openmoko have the option of leaving that to the users.
Supply a sheet with small letter stickers for all languages, and a 
printed sheet with where each letter normally go for the 
software-supported languages.
[...]

> it sucks. but "english" is the lowest common denominator and thus most things
> tend to be built to support it - as   it tends to keep more people happier
> than  some other setup. if there was enough volume to make enough units for a
> particular language/locale/country - it'd be different. :)

I understand that there is little interest in making a phone 
specifically for Norway, when the volumes are low. That doesn't mean the 
lowest common is the best way. A keyboard with several extra blank keys,
and the english qwerty printed on the keytops will work fine for the 
large group of english-language users.  Norwegians like me will simply 
put the "ø" and "æ" stickers on the 2 keys to the right of "l", and the 
"å" sticker on the key to the right of "p".

Those who want a radically different layout, such as dvorak, take the 
lid off and carefully rearrange the keytops. Same for azerty-layouts.

Programmable is better, but if someone wants real keys that depress with 
a click, then this is possible too.

Helge Hafting

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Re: Kustomizer for 2008.12

2009-02-05 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
I think I've now been able to fix the GSM thing. At the moment GPRS is
disabled but I'm trying to test this still today a bit more and try to
release soon (so that when people have a look at the Community news
they can try a version that allows you to make phonecalls :)

So if anyone is interested, please try this:
http://kurppa.fi/freerunner/kustomizer_devel

It requires you to manually:
1 flash
2 start&restart
3 turn asu suspend off
4 ssh in
5 run Kustomizer
6 ssh in again
7 turn illume suspend off
8 rerun Kustomizer
9 answer to gpsd autostart question.

I know, it's a pain and it all should be possible to automatize. Will
try to work on that later..



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Re: [Om2008.9] updating OSM data for tangoGPS

2009-02-05 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Thursday, February 05, 2009 a las 01:48:20PM +0100, Stefan Fröbe 
escribió:

> >
> > My script as well honours the existence of a file '.../OSM/lastrun' and one
> > can just create this file with
> >
> > $ touch -t 02050724  lastrun  ## MMDDHHMM
> >
> > to exclude, in this example, all tiles which are already newer then
> > February 5, 7:24;
> > for example if you have to restart the script during a day;
> 
> 
> Hi Matthias,
> 
> neat little script for this great idea - I cleaned the output a little,
> added a simple "progress" and updated a tile's timestamp when it was checked
> sucessfully - now all that's needed is a little parallel wget to speed
> things up ;-)
> 
> Stefan

Hi Stephan,

Thanks for updating it (I have no time to check it now, will come back
later to this);

just a note; I did already a change in my CVS because sometimes the wget
fails and let the file with zero bytes, i.e. it is better to let in this
case the old file remain; the logic is like this:

   wget --user-agent yaouh.sh -q ${baseURL}${file} -O /tmp/tile.$$ 
   test -s /tmp/tile.$$ && {
   cat /tmp/tile.$$ > ${file}
   printf "updated\n"
   }

HIH

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Re: Karlsruhe OpenMoko User Meet

2009-02-05 Thread Juergen Schinker
Joachim Breitner wrote:
> [ Summary in english: OpenMoko users meet in Karlsruhe, Germany. ]
> 
> Hallo allerseits,
> 
> nach der Terminkoordination per doodle laden wir nun alle interessierten
> FreeRunner- oder Neo-Besitzer am
>  Mittwoch, 11.2.2009, um 19:00
> in die Räume des Entropia e.V. ein.
> 
> Das Ganze wird, so wie es aussieht, ein formloses Treffen zum Ideen- und
> Erfahrungsaustausch sein. Wenn aber jemand Lust hat, ein bestimmtes
> Thema etwas intensiver vorzustellen, ist das natürlich sehr willkommen.
> Ich habe eine Wiki-Seite auf der Homepage des Entropia angelegt, wer
> derartige Vorschläge hat, kann sie dort gerne eintragen.
> https://entropia.de/wiki/OpenMoko_User_Meet
> 
> Informationen zur Örtlichkeit findet Ihr auf
> https://entropia.de/wiki/Anfahrt
> 
> Wer bei der Gelegenheit seinen PGP-Key signieren möchte, darf gern ein
> paar Fingerprints mitbringen.
> 
> Bei Problemen, den Raum zu finden, könnt ihr mich unter 0176 40229212
> erreichen (wenn ich nicht gerade die SIM-Karte im FreeRunner und diesen
> in einem nicht funktionsfähigen Zustand habe).
> 
> Bitte gebt das auch an andere OpenMoko-User in und um Karlsruhe weiter,
> falls diese nicht die Mailingliste lesen.
> 
> Bis Mittwoch,
> Joachim

hey moment mal, da ist ja zeitgleich ein Treffen in London

sieht mir nach einem World-Moko-Day aus...

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Re: New Release of GuitarTune v0.20 (based on Alsa)

2009-02-05 Thread c_c

Hi,

Ed Kapitein wrote:
> 
> ... so when playing a G the tuner hears a A.
> 
 Well, I only own two accoustic guitars - and it seems to be quite accurate
for me. But then fundamental freq detection is not a guarantee with the
signal processing I'm doing. There are many things that can throw the tuner
off - like background noise for eg or the particular characteristics of the
guitar.

So, here are some questions that would help me understand the approach to
take to make the program more accurate.

Are you using an accoustic guitar? 
Is the tuner consistently hearing a higher note?
Could you verify by using some other tuner what the error is?
Could you try after keeping the freerunner really close to the guitar?

Ed Kapitein wrote:
> 
>  is it possible to select manually which string you try to tune? it could
> filter the input signal at that frequency and perhaps make recognizing the
> correct tone easier.
> 
Well, the current method I'm using (FFT followed by a harmonic spectrum
product) wont be affected by knowing which string you're tuning. 
Then again, I could use another method of determining the fundamental freq
(goertzel algorithm) perhaps, which would need to know the target freq.
Though that will be totally different program.

So, right now, I would prefer trying to get some feedback and improving the
code to see how it can be made more accurate. And your feedback would help
the most since you're the first one to tell me its off :-)

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Karlsruhe OpenMoko User Meet

2009-02-05 Thread Joachim Breitner
[ Summary in english: OpenMoko users meet in Karlsruhe, Germany. ]

Hallo allerseits,

nach der Terminkoordination per doodle laden wir nun alle interessierten
FreeRunner- oder Neo-Besitzer am
 Mittwoch, 11.2.2009, um 19:00
in die Räume des Entropia e.V. ein.

Das Ganze wird, so wie es aussieht, ein formloses Treffen zum Ideen- und
Erfahrungsaustausch sein. Wenn aber jemand Lust hat, ein bestimmtes
Thema etwas intensiver vorzustellen, ist das natürlich sehr willkommen.
Ich habe eine Wiki-Seite auf der Homepage des Entropia angelegt, wer
derartige Vorschläge hat, kann sie dort gerne eintragen.
https://entropia.de/wiki/OpenMoko_User_Meet

Informationen zur Örtlichkeit findet Ihr auf
https://entropia.de/wiki/Anfahrt

Wer bei der Gelegenheit seinen PGP-Key signieren möchte, darf gern ein
paar Fingerprints mitbringen.

Bei Problemen, den Raum zu finden, könnt ihr mich unter 0176 40229212
erreichen (wenn ich nicht gerade die SIM-Karte im FreeRunner und diesen
in einem nicht funktionsfähigen Zustand habe).

Bitte gebt das auch an andere OpenMoko-User in und um Karlsruhe weiter,
falls diese nicht die Mailingliste lesen.

Bis Mittwoch,
Joachim

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Re: [Om2008.9] updating OSM data for tangoGPS

2009-02-05 Thread Stefan Fröbe
>
> My script as well honours the existence of a file '.../OSM/lastrun' and one
> can just create this file with
>
> $ touch -t 02050724  lastrun  ## MMDDHHMM
>
> to exclude, in this example, all tiles which are already newer then
> February 5, 7:24;
> for example if you have to restart the script during a day;


Hi Matthias,

neat little script for this great idea - I cleaned the output a little,
added a simple "progress" and updated a tile's timestamp when it was checked
sucessfully - now all that's needed is a little parallel wget to speed
things up ;-)

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Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-05 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 05 February 2009, Helge Hafting wrote:
> arne anka wrote:
> >> (http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=WO&NR=2009012
> >>344A2&KC=A2&FT=D&date=20090122&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_US)
> >
> > i didn't read it fully, but how does that differ from a simple hub or the
> > common docking station well known to notebook users? and it what respect
> > exactly is it not obvious?
>
> Yeah, it is jsut like the docking stations used for laptops.
> Doing exactly the same with a *phone*, now that phones almost are
> notebooks - wasn't obvious to microsoft or that patent office, it seems.

The patent office sees obviousness differently to engineers. Having a patent 
for something on a tractor for a particular reason doesn't stop someone 
getting a patent on the exact same thing for the same reason on a fork lift. 
Somehow it isn't obvious that if it works in one situation it'll also work in 
a similar one. They see moving the idea from one type of vehicle to another as 
an inventive step rather than an application of the blindingly obvious. 


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Re: Someone stole my Neo Freerunner... :(

2009-02-05 Thread Helge Hafting
KaZeR wrote:
>  
> 
>> -Message d'origine-
>>
>> I still dream of sending "sentry:map" and get a MMS with a 
>> map tile back, with the location marked. Don't know if the 
>> freerunner can send MMS, mine certainly doesn't receive MMS. 
>> (instead, the telco sent an URL for downloading the test image.)
>>
> I'm definitely not an expert, but receiving mms is basically receiving a sms
> with an url (e.g. the one from your telco), and browsing that url using wap,
> without user interaction.. Same thing for posting. So, it's "only" a
> software issue...

Very interesting. Openstreetmap already has a webserver that looks up 
locations by URL, such as:

http://openstreetmap.org/?lat=63.41283&lon=10.4888&zoom=15&layers=B000FTF

Would such an URL work on a MMS-capable phone? This URL is
javascript, but a few simple calculations can yield a link
directly to a tile png file instead.

Helge Hafting

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Re: yaouh! 0.3 is out

2009-02-05 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Nice, I like the idea to select the repository!

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Re: [All] FR survey and locations

2009-02-05 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 05 February 2009, Helge Hafting wrote:
> Joel Newkirk wrote:
> > On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 21:46:09 -0200, Pablo Miño 
> >
> > wrote:
> >> How do I find out what version my neo is? Do I have to open it?
> >
> > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Finding_hardware_revision
>
> That page has several ways of finding the revision, and they seem to
> give conflicting results:
>
>
>
> /proc/cpuinfo:
> Hardware: GTA02
> Revision: 0360
> Serial  : 
>
> So, a gta02.v06?

Correct. I guess this is in NAND somewhere, written at manufacture.

> $ mickeyterm
> at+cgmr
> +CGMR: "HW: GTA02BV5, GSM:
> gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-Moko10"
>
> A gta02.v5?

This one depends on the GSM firmware version I think. AFAIK there is only one 
moko10 firmware image, so it may report the same version on all hardware. Did 
you upgrade to moko10 manually, or did it ship like that?

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Re: synchronizing audio + accelerometer data

2009-02-05 Thread Andreas Kemnade
Hi,

On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:18:15 +0100
Christ van Willegen  wrote:

> > I would like to know much syncrhonizing is possible
> > between audio input and accelerometer input.
> > How much can it be improved with kernel modifications?
> > For example setting a timestamp in the sound input?
> 
> What would also be nice is a good way to synchronize accel data and
> GPS data, so that, ie when walking or running, the accelleration is
> stored with the GPS data.
> 
Just keep your system clock in sync with network or with the gps
clock and you are done. The /dev/input/event2 or /dev/input/event3
With sound that is afaik not as easy as that.

Greetings
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yaouh! 0.3 is out

2009-02-05 Thread Carlo Minucci
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh!
a new version is available

now you can choise repository for updating

need feedback for repository function

thank a lot to florian schweikert for help me

see you

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Re: [All] FR survey and locations

2009-02-05 Thread Helge Hafting
Joel Newkirk wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 21:46:09 -0200, Pablo Miño 
> wrote:
>> How do I find out what version my neo is? Do I have to open it?
>  
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Finding_hardware_revision
> 

That page has several ways of finding the revision, and they seem to 
give conflicting results:



/proc/cpuinfo:
Hardware: GTA02
Revision: 0360
Serial  : 

So, a gta02.v06?

$ mickeyterm
at+cgmr
+CGMR: "HW: GTA02BV5, GSM: 
gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-Moko10"

A gta02.v5?

Helge Hafting

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Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-05 Thread Helge Hafting
arne anka wrote:
>> (http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=WO&NR=2009012344A2&KC=A2&FT=D&date=20090122&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_US)
> 
> i didn't read it fully, but how does that differ from a simple hub or the  
> common docking station well known to notebook users? and it what respect  
> exactly is it not obvious?

Yeah, it is jsut like the docking stations used for laptops.
Doing exactly the same with a *phone*, now that phones almost are 
notebooks - wasn't obvious to microsoft or that patent office, it seems.

Helge Hafting

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Re: synchronizing audio + accelerometer data

2009-02-05 Thread Christ van Willegen
> I would like to know much syncrhonizing is possible
> between audio input and accelerometer input.
> How much can it be improved with kernel modifications?
> For example setting a timestamp in the sound input?

What would also be nice is a good way to synchronize accel data and
GPS data, so that, ie when walking or running, the accelleration is
stored with the GPS data.

Christ van Willegen

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synchronizing audio + accelerometer data

2009-02-05 Thread Andreas Kemnade
Hi,

I would like to know much syncrhonizing is possible
between audio input and accelerometer input.
How much can it be improved with kernel modifications?
For example setting a timestamp in the sound input?

Greetings
Andreas Kemnade


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Re: the best Freerunner cover/skin

2009-02-05 Thread Tom Yates
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009, Mickael Labrousse wrote:

> I'm looking for the perfect Freerunner cover/skin but the all my search 
> results linked me to the invisibleSHIELD of Zagg. It's a great product 
> but not really the one I need.

if you want to cover the whole thing, i can't help.  but i protect my 
screen using some old Concept Kitchen WriteRights, left over from much 
earlier PDA days.  a quick google suggests that Concept Kitchen went >pop< 
but that Fellowes are selling the product these days.

i haven't yet peeled the first one off my 'moko, but i've never had 
problems getting these off any other touch-screen device on which i've 
used them over the years.  they don't seem to substantially affect touch 
responsiveness and i get about six months use out of mine before they 
need replacement.  ymmv.


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Re: Neon 0.9.6 is out

2009-02-05 Thread William Kenworthy
On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 14:18 +0100, Valery Febvre wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> A new release of Neon is available.
> 

One thing I've noticed is that neon cant view files that are a symlink
to a valid graphic - is this easily fixed?  Found it when trying to use
it to examine symlinked openstreetmap png files.

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Re: [Om2008.9] updating OSM data for tangoGPS

2009-02-05 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Wednesday, February 04, 2009 a las 10:11:05PM +0100, Thomas Franck 
escribió:

> Matthias Apitz wrote:
> > it seems that the logic depends on certain http://... values in
> > ~/.gconf/apps/tangogps/%gconf.xml
> > but I don't have that their; could someone show me the string how it
> > should look in tangogps/%gconf.xml to understand what it is expecting;
> 
> Ahh.. that would be the way osm organizes their maps and where TangoGPS
> puts them
> 
> 
>   
> 
> OSM|http://tile.openstreetmap.org/%d/%d/%d.png|/media/card/maps/osm|0
>   
> 

Thanks for the info, Thomas. It's interesting, my file
~/.gconf/apps/tangogps/%gconf.xml in my laptop and in the FR has only
the value 

OSM

and tangoGPS is happy; maybe the rest are hardcoded defaults in
tangoGPS;

As I said, I have my maps in my FreeBSD based laptop and syncing them
over with 'rsync' to another netbook and to the FR. If someone owns a laptop
I think this is the right way todo because the update takes its time (around
half hour for 2000 tiles) and if you have like me some 12000 tiles it
will take many hours. Thats why as well I dropped the Python Gtk tool
yaouh0.3_alpha.py and wrote my own one just as a command line shell script
(attached as yaouh.sh); in any case thanks to the original author of Yaouh for 
the
idea.

My script as well honours the existence of a file '.../OSM/lastrun' and one
can just create this file with

$ touch -t 02050724  lastrun  ## MMDDHHMM

to exclude, in this example, all tiles which are already newer then February 5, 
7:24;
for example if you have to restart the script during a day;

HIH

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the best Freerunner cover/skin

2009-02-05 Thread Mickael Labrousse
Hi everyone,

I'm looking for the perfect Freerunner cover/skin but the all my search
results linked me to the invisibleSHIELD of Zagg. It's a great product
but not really the one I need.

So I'ld like to know which one you are using.

Thanks,
Mickael


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Re: Neon 0.9.6 is out (SOLVED!)

2009-02-05 Thread Tony Berth
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 5:47 AM, Nacho Seijo  wrote:

>
>
> 2009/2/3 Tony Berth 
>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Valery Febvre wrote:
>>
>>> Tony Berth wrote:
>>> > did you try it on the current SHR unstable cause it doesn't start! It
>>> > crashes!
>>>
>>> Yes, I use SHR unstable.
>>>
>>> For a first install, I think there is no problem.
>>> If a previous release of Neon was already installed,
>>> it is perhaps neccessary to delete a file.
>>> Can you look if the file /usr/bin/neon.pyo exists.
>>>
>>
>>>
>>> If yes, remove it.
>>>
>>> If it's not the case, can you send me the output error?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Valéry
>>>
>>>
>> the 'neon.pyo' file doesn't exist at all and 'yes' I had the previous
>> version installled before upgrading!
>>
>> When I click on the icon I just get the generic error screen 'Application
>> Execution Error' with no further info
>>
>> I don't know if that was any help to you?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
> I think it's a problem with python versions.
> :
>
> ln -s /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/neon/
> /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/neon
>
> This worked for me to launch neon, but it can't open any image.
> This is the output:
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "ecore.c_ecore_timer.pxi", line 29, in ecore.c_ecore.timer_cb
> (ecore/ecore.c_ecore.c:1075)
>   File "ecore.c_ecore_timer.pxi", line 97, in ecore.c_ecore.Timer._exec
> (ecore/ecore.c_ecore.c:1656)
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/neon/neon.py", line 148, in
> open_file
> self.gui.viewer.open(file_path)
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/neon/neon.py", line 650, in open
> self.__load_image(path)
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/neon/neon.py", line 644, in
> __load_image
> self.properties.populate(path)
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/neon/neon.py", line 973, in
> populate
> value = format % (self.gui.viewer.img.real_w,
> self.gui.viewer.img.real_h)
> TypeError: %d format: a number is required, not NoneType
>
>
>
>>
>> ___
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>

This was solved by Valery! I was using the wrong package for my SHR distro.

Thanks

Tony
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Re: Neon 0.9.6 is out

2009-02-05 Thread OpenMitko
Great work Valery! Keep it that way.

2009/2/3 Valery Febvre 

> Hi,
>
> A new release of Neon is available.
>
> This is a major feature enhancements release.
>
> Changes since 0.9.5.1:
>
> * Images can be now auto-rotated by images dimensions (not by EXIF
> data).
> In other words, image is rotated if image's orientation is landscape.
> A new command line option (-r, --auto-rotate) has been added to
> enable/disable this new feature.
>
> * Added timers to auto-hide image viewer navbar and toolbar.
> A new command line option -d (--bars-disappear-delay) has been added to
> adjust auto-hide delay of this new feature (disabled by default).
> This feature is disabled if delay is 0.
>
> * Added the index of the image, the total number of images and the
> image's size in addition of the image's name in the image viewer.
>
> * Added a slideshow functionnality.
> A new command line option -s (--slideshow-delay) has been added to
> adjust the interval (default 4 sec.).
>
> * Added images properties: dimension, size, EXIF metadata, ...
>
> * Added a new theme 'Black & White'.
> A new command line option -t (--theme) has been added to choice the
> theme to used.
>
> As usual you can get it at:
> http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/?group_id=239
>
> BEWARE:
> If your system uses Python 2.6 (not 2.5) like SHR unstable, you must
> install alternative package neon_0.9.6-r0_all_py2.6.ipk
>
> Links:
> Project Homepage: http://neon.projects.openmoko.org/
> Wiki page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neon
>
> Have fun,
> Valéry
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