Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left
On 24/03/2009 03:44, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: The best would be just hire back those valueable people, and work out how they want to work. Even if they want to form a new (software) company, to make sure this situation will never happen again. Hello, who told you that he was fired from Openmoko? May be simply he wanted to move to another company. In every case I think is better to stop to speak until we receive a official announce (from OM or from Andy). Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left
Michele and others you could try reading what Andy said here: fromAndy Green a...@openmoko.com hide details Mar 23 (17 hours ago) to Nicolas Dufresne nicolas.dufre...@gmail.com cc openmoko-ker...@lists.openmoko.org dateMar 23, 2009 1:32 PM subject Re: [PATCH] Forced shutdown for / Andy mailed-by lists.openmoko.org regards, clare On 3/24/09, Michele Renda michele.re...@gmail.com wrote: On 24/03/2009 03:44, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: The best would be just hire back those valueable people, and work out how they want to work. Even if they want to form a new (software) company, to make sure this situation will never happen again. Hello, who told you that he was fired from Openmoko? May be simply he wanted to move to another company. In every case I think is better to stop to speak until we receive a official announce (from OM or from Andy). Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: paroli updates
Hi, Is paroli still being worked upon? I see that the latest git changes were made 10 days ago. Some kind of holiday going on? Sure, I am still fighting :) Stumbled across some issues that meant I had to do a lot of research etc. I am trying to get elementary in and etk out. That requires a lot of refactoring in the different apps. To not break was is out there right now I decided not to upload it yet. Angus managed to get a new revision of enlightenment to build last night, so my hopes are up that I can push lots of things soon. I am currently moving also, so don't have the usual time to invest in paroli, but if all goes well I'll be done today and resume full production wed or thu :) So don't run away and stay tuned :) /mirko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 03:44:06 +0100 Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com said: I do not know who is responsible for this desicion but I hope they are not the same design team who had fired Rasterman. who said i was fired? i quit (hanged in my resignation) of my own volition. :) handed in resignation last year start of august - that was mu last month @ om. :) -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: paroli updates
Am Tuesday 24 March 2009 08:18:13 schrieb Mirko Lindner: Hi, Is paroli still being worked upon? I see that the latest git changes were made 10 days ago. Some kind of holiday going on? I am trying to get elementary in and etk out. [...] Does this mean that paroli will finally also run on debian which is missing python-etk? I'd be really happy to hear that. :D PS: Yes, I sent that mail to pkg-e-devel politely requesting the package, but there was no reaction... They seem to be busy getting along anyway :) -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: paroli updates
Hi, Marcel wrote: Does this mean that paroli will finally also run on debian which is missing python-etk? I'd be really happy to hear that. :D That would be part of the deal yes :) I am not sure how long the switch takes, but I am doing my best. If anyone wants to lend a hand, I'd be more than happy :) /mirko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:04:30 +0100, clare johnstone clar...@gmail.com wrote: Michele and others you could try reading what Andy said here: fromAndy Green a...@openmoko.com hide details Mar 23 (17 hours ago) to Nicolas Dufresne nicolas.dufre...@gmail.com cc openmoko-ker...@lists.openmoko.org dateMar 23, 2009 1:32 PM subject Re: [PATCH] Forced shutdown for / Andy mailed-by lists.openmoko.org That still doesn't say he was fired. -- Alexey Feldgendler ale...@feldgendler.ru [ICQ: 115226275] http://feldgendler.livejournal.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Openmoko meeting Stuttgart (Wed 25.03.2009)
Hi everyone, i want to announce that we will meet Wed 25.03.2009 at 19:00 for a first come-together-meeting in Stuttgart: Location: Wichtel Hausbrauerei Stuttgarter Strasse 21 70469 Stuttgart http://www.wichtel.de/ Its in Stuttgart-Feuerbach near the S-Bahn Station there. You are all invited to join, we will meet at 19:00 at the entrance and then find a place. People joining later can find us looking for the Freerunners on the table ;) It would be nice if you drop me a note, if you plan to come, so that in case we are many people i can reserve a table. At the moment i know of 5 people. Greetings and hope to see you vale -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Openmoko-meeting-Stuttgart-%28Wed-25.03.2009%29-tp2525313p2525313.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:12:42 +0100 Alexey Feldgendler ale...@feldgendler.ru said: On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:04:30 +0100, clare johnstone clar...@gmail.com wrote: Michele and others you could try reading what Andy said here: fromAndy Green a...@openmoko.com hide details Mar 23 (17 hours ago) to Nicolas Dufresne nicolas.dufre...@gmail.com cc openmoko-ker...@lists.openmoko.org date Mar 23, 2009 1:32 PM subject Re: [PATCH] Forced shutdown for / Andy mailed-by lists.openmoko.org That still doesn't say he was fired. at least Laszlo never said he was fired at all. quote: I can't express how sad I'm when I read Andy Green left Openmoko. and you just let go is ambiguous - i.e. he could have been made redundant (different to being fired), and it could just as easily mean he decided to leave and you didn't make a counter offer to keep him. he was wrong that they fired me though. :) -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accelerometer Data
Thank you very much for the sample code. I've just read that Andy has left Openmoko, so I wonder what will happen to the Andy-tracking Kernel. I hope that the changes to the ABS sync events will go into the stable Kernel. When that happens I'll add your Code to the Wiki if you agree. All the best Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is SIM Toolkit possible to support on the freerunner?
Technically, SIM toolkit support is possible with the Calypso. I have commented previously about this, so please look my older posts up; In a nutshell, STK is a heavy cross-layer spec, so adding it would need quit some thought. FSO will not work on it, but appreciate patches. :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue
- you need another set of headphones with 2.5 plug Hmm, I don't see the point here. Can be done with any headset/headphones, including the FR accessory ones. Probably I got you wrong. there was some discussion about the pinout of those things months ago -- did that refer to headsets only? and, i don't see headphones with 2.5 plug for sale everywhere. but. of course, it's a minor issue. only to make it absolutely clear: there is no way to modify a wired headset to make it work buzz-free reliable? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue
arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de writes: - you need another set of headphones with 2.5 plug Hmm, I don't see the point here. Can be done with any headset/headphones, including the FR accessory ones. Probably I got you wrong. there was some discussion about the pinout of those things months ago -- did that refer to headsets only? and, i don't see headphones with 2.5 plug for sale everywhere. pinout is a non-issue. Yes, the FR's pinout is incompatible to 3-ring 2.5mm plug of regular headphones. But you can get 4-ring 2.5mm from a store. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bying a Freerunner with the buzz-fix on it
Xavier Cremaschi a écrit : Hi, one month after, do you have any update relative to shipping date of GTA02v7 ? Kind regards, Xavier mode Biff Tannen ON : Hello? Hello? Anybody home? Huh? :-/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bying a Freerunner with the buzz-fix on it
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 01:39, Alexander Raab raab.alexan...@gmx.at wrote: But a few months ago I met someone and he told me that the buzzing is quite heavy. I read about a fix for that on the A7, but there is only a A6 sold. Have I missed something? I do not know what will be fixed on the A7. And Paul Ferster wrote about a modification related to buzz... on the A8 http://n2.nabble.com/Buzz-Issues---Last-Questions%2C-I-promise-tp2509041p2521177.html On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 14:51, Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com wrote: [...] NB: Factory-produced A8 will have ferrite beads in place (so RF will not get anywhere it can be detected in the first place), and that should probably solve all known buzz problems. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bying a Freerunner with the buzz-fix on it
Cédric Berger cedric.berge...@gmail.com writes: On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 01:39, Alexander Raab raab.alexan...@gmx.at wrote: But a few months ago I met someone and he told me that the buzzing is quite heavy. I read about a fix for that on the A7, but there is only a A6 sold. Have I missed something? I do not know what will be fixed on the A7. And Paul Ferster wrote about a modification related to buzz... on the A8 A7 is the same like A6 with factory applied buzz fix. Not fixing headset mic. A8 should fix all known buzz issues. Probably A7 will also probably have an extra cap in the earpiece path that will require to tweak output volume comparing to current settings. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[debian] preferred working kernel at the moment?
Hi, i wonder which kernel is the best or lets say the most stable and working für debian at the moment. Since i upgraded from the last 2.6.24 kernels to the 2.6.28/29 i have more problems than benefits. :/ I tried the latest selfcompiled andy-tracking from [1] and the latest unstable OM kernel from [2]. There are a few more locations for kernels which i didn't try so far. But both kernels i tried didn't change in the last ~2 weeks why i wonder if there is a better/newer kernel version somewhere available. I also don't know if andy-tracking is still the newest version after andy left openmoko. The really big improvment from 2.6.24-2.6.28/29 is that the standby time has improved really much. With this i can firstly carry the phone with me without to be worried about an empty battery at the evening. But than the problems on the other side are real blockers. First big problem is that after suspend the backlight mechanism doesn't recognize a touch on the screen anymore. Therefor after it dims and gets dark it never get back to full brightness after i touch the screen. But the desktop itself recognizes my touch and i can work as long as the backlight is still on. I found out that the backlight gets back on when i press the aux button. This is happening with andy-tracking. I still have to try if this also happens with the latest official 2.6.28. Second big problem for me is that wlan isn't working anymore. With 2.6.24 it worked quite good and stable. But with 2.6.28-OM and 2.6.29-andy it only works half. I can associate with my AP and the freerunner and my AP both list each other as connected. But than no communication works at all. I started wireshark on my freerunner and it shows that the only protocoll which is exchanged is LLC which i don't know. But the dhcp request is never answered. And wireshark on my linux-AP shows that it never receives any request at all. At the moment i only tried dhcp and no static configuration on my freerunner. But dhcp worked very stable with the 2.6.24 kernel and a static configuration is not very usefull whith changing wlan locations. Another problem is that the memory consumption on debian is much higher and the system responsiveness is much slower than before. But this could also be a problem of other system components which are updated on a regular basis. So i hope anyone can suggest me a kernel which works as much as i could even use my freerunner again. At the moment it is useless without working backlight after suspend and working wlan. :/ Ciao, Rainer [1] http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=andy-tracking [2] http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/unstable/NeoFreerunner/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accelerometer Data
The location of the control interfaces for the accelerometers in the 2.6.28 build has moved to : /sys/bus/platform/devices/lis302dl.x/... After reading the code for the driver version on the git tree, I discovered that the settings for sample_rate and full_scale are limited to 2 values only, and the units of the threshold value are determined by the full_scale settings. As to the time intervals between reports, to my view, they are still pretty erratic, although at least the time codes on the reports are at least always increasing in time. The code read so far appears to indicate that the overrun values are not reported. Is there an easy way to get the exact, current source for the driver that is used in the 2.6.28 release? Even although I have been reading diff files since the 1970s they still cause my brain to dissolve an leak out of my ears. What I am wondering is whether the devices themselves report according to spec and setup? It pretty hard to make use of the data for much if you can't determine the time interval that the acceleration value refers to. As to keeping up with the device, I can envisage code that would be too slow as a possibility, but a 500 MHz processor should easily manage a 10 ms device, one would think. I have not personally seen a timing issue for a device on a modern CPU since the 1980s. Neil Brown wrote: On Monday March 23, ifindle...@videotron.ca wrote: Okay, it looks like the 2.6.28 kernel and modules are an improvement for the accelerometer data, but the report times, while not negative any more, appear somewhat erratic. The type codes appear to be unchanged in this build, with the driver reporting EV_REL and EV_SYN. The time codes should be very reliable, and should be spaced at 10ms intervals as the device interrupts at 100Hz (by default). Each open file on the /dev/input/eventXX device has an internal buffer of 64 entries. If your application is not able to read fast enough to keep that buffer from over flowing, then you will occasionally loose chunks of 64 entries (and so see gaps for 640 ms). However this is not what I see. If I measure the time between EV_SYN reports for 1000 such reports, I get a histogram like freq ms 805 10 136 20 34 30 11 40 1 41 4 51 5 61 1 71 Which isn't what I expected. No over-runs are being reported, and there are no 640ms gaps, so the internal buffer isn't wrapping. (goes and reads code again...) Ah. If none of X, Y, or Z change, then EV_SYN won't be reported either. So this presumably shows that there are times when the accelerometers think the device is completely stable - nothing changing. If the device were reporting EV_REL events, then you could only lose EV_SYN events if all three axes reported 0, which means perfect free-fall. That seem unlikely... I have a patch which I'm in the middle of writing which makes the 'sample_rate' sysfs setting more useful. Instead of just '100' or '400' you can have any other (smaller) value, and it samples the accelerometers at that rates. So e.g. '10' with give 10 samples per second, and '0.1' will give one every 10 seconds. When I get up to testing that I'll make sure that it delivers properly times events. You do similar histogram-generation tests yourself by: wget http://beagleboard.googlecode.com/files/evtest.c cc -o evtest evtest.c ./evtest /dev/input/event2 | grep Sync | awk '{print int(($3 - prev)*1000) ; prev = $3}' | sed 1000q | sort | uniq -c I would be interested to see what you get using a kernel that reports EV_REL events. 'evtest' is a very useful program for experimenting with the various input devices. NeilBrown ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: question about kernel image build
On Mar 24, 2009, at 10:57 AM, mx li wrote: i got a freerunner, first i download the two image: Om2008.12-om-gta02.uImage.bin Om2008.12-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 use the dfu tools upgrade success. but i want to build the kernel image myself, so i do like this: 1. install git tools: apt-get install git 2. git clone git://git.openmoko.org/git/kernel.git linux-2.6 3. cd linux-2.6 git checkout origin/andy-tracking 4. cp arch/arm/configs/gta02-moredrivers-defconfig .config 5. download openmoko-i686-20080916-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 from http://downloads.openmoko.org/developer/toolchains/ 6. cd / sudo tar jxf /openmoko-i686-20080916-arm-linux-gnueabi- toolchain.tar.bz2 7. cd linux-2.6 mkdir GTA02 cp arch/arm/configs/gta02-moredrivers-defconfig ./GTA02/.config 8. vi /usr/local/openmoko/arm/setup-env modify line with : export LDFLAGS=-L${OMTOOL_DIR}/arm/arm-angstrom- linux-gnueabi/lib -rpath-link ${OMTOOL_DIR}/arm/arm-angstrom-linux- gnueabi/lib -O1 9. . /usr/local/openmoko/arm/setup-env 10. cd linux-2.6/ ./build GTA02 dummy after above, i use the dfu tools burn the uImage-GTA02.bin which under GTA02 directory to freerunner, but it stop at openmoko srceen, can't boot the system up, you should take a picture about the screen . :-) what is your rootfs?? why? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Xiangfu Best Regards ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Flashing error?
On Mar 22, 2009, at 5:32 AM, Brigzzy Ory'Hara wrote: I'm not flashing it to the SD card, I'm using the onboard flash. But now that you mention it, in an attempt to troubleshoot an unrelated problem, I did delete both the partitions on the SD card. Could this be causing my problem? For install the Android to Freerunner you must format you sd card to two partition. the first one is fat and second is ext. Android needs those two partition. 2009/3/21 rakshat hooja raks...@gmail.com Did you create the fat and ext partion on your sd card? On 3/22/09, Brigzzy Ory'Hara brig...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I'm using neotool to flash my freerunner with the latest android image (panicking version 14.6-cupcake) and kernel (uImage-v15-ext3), but I'm getting the same error on boot. If I boot it through the NOR boot menu, it says it can't find the kernel image. If I boot it normally (and in verboose mode), it gets to the part talking about the request_suspend_state, then does a bunch of stuff with the power_supply (for about 20 lines, then loops back to the request_suspend_state. Has anyone else run into these problems? Danny Briggs -- -- Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and is also a very feature rich browser. www.firefox.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- It's these changes in latitudes, Changes in attitudes, Nothing remains quite the same, With all of my running and all of my cunning, If I couldn't laugh, I just would go insane... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Xiangfu Best Regards ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left
I love these threads where we talk about company things, like the recent official buzz fix thread, or the secret UI design team IRC conversation, and there is NEVER any response from OpenMoko. I wonder if they see the community mailinglist as COMMUNITY ONLY, i.e. no employees allowed? :) Cheers, - Gunnar Laszlo KREKACS wrote: Dear List, I can't express how sad I'm when I read Andy Green left Openmoko. I do not know why he left (and it is not my business anyway), but I know since Andy was at Openmoko the kernel side began to form shape, and got things work. (suspend? anyone?) I know that every people is replacable at a company, but show me at least two people who made as much commit/day (and code quality) what Andy did. You cant, because there is no black magic here, no marketing mantra, it is all public and we can see who commits what into the git tree. So you just let go the single most valuable people at kernel side. Nice try. I do not know who is responsible for this desicion but I hope they are not the same design team who had fired Rasterman. Oh, and Harald Welte had left Openmoko too, but we never knew the exact details. Who left? At the hardware side: Werner and Joerg at the software side: Mirko and hmm, nobody? Im counting... How long will they stand? If I had enough money I would just hire those people and form a new company and outsource the fabrication to a chinese company (that's exactly what everyone does including apple) and forget about Openmoko (the name was a bad choice anyway ;) I know this letter a bit harsh, but it is intented to address to whom is concerned: Get your head out of your @ss, sit down and think about a bit. You must honor those people who gets the job done! The best would be just hire back those valueable people, and work out how they want to work. Even if they want to form a new (software) company, to make sure this situation will never happen again. I always wanted to buy the next model of openmoko, but I know exactly, if it has bugs (and surely it will), never or really slowly will be fixed (as the current(=everyone gets fired) situation shows). And if it will have hardware bugs, they will be never fixed by Openmoko (as the company), and I can just hope that some people offer *their free time and knowledge* and fix the problem UNOFFICIALLY (unless they did not get until fired). Can you imagine where we were today without Andy and Rasterman? I surely can: an unofficial/unsupported qtextended with an unoptimized 2.6.22 kernel. All those nice things came from these (fired) people. I'm afraid of the future. Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Gunnar Aastrand Grimnes gunnar.grimnes [AT] dfki.de DFKI GmbH Knowledge Management Trippstadter Strasse 122 D-67663 Kaiserslautern Germany Office: +49 631 205 75-117 Mobile: +49 177 277 4397 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left
I love these threads where we talk about company things, like the recent official buzz fix thread, or the secret UI design team IRC conversation, and there is NEVER any response from OpenMoko. I wonder if they see the community mailinglist as COMMUNITY ONLY, i.e. no employees allowed? :) well, there are employees available at community (judging from @openmoko addresses) -- but this constant ... brain drain is nothing that makes me happy. at least the community update should have mentioned that. atm om rather looks like a black box with only now and then some glint indicating activity inside and an information flow which seems rather like leaking. after all, om's business is centered around open and based on a strong community, if the people being more or less om's face to the community leave one after one ... it's not really reassuring. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Multitouch on FR ... imho should be possible to mimic
This has been discussed multiple times since last ~15months. The basic assumption a middle-point when touching with 2 fingers might be anyway exactly in the middle is incorrect. It depends on pressure of each touchpoint. There have been many different opinions about feasibility of this approach, I for one think it won't work. cheers jOERG Am Do 19. März 2009 schrieb Yaroslav Halchenko: Hi All, I've been cherishing the idea for a while but got no spare time to even code a proof of concept. so I decided to share it with you so someone could do that for the common advantage ;) Indeed we can't register both touches -- as a result hardware returns midpoint. BUT what if you touch screen with two fingers (at some inter-finger distance like half of screen width) not at the same time but within lets say 100-200ms. Ie you click with one finger just slightly before the other one. then driver reports 2 coordinates where there is a significant immediate jump from first coordinate to the midpoint between the two, which would be as much as 1/2 of distance between the fingers. such behavior would signal that 2 fingers are on the screen! then if you move 2nd finger somewhere, midpoint would move and that movement can be taken as a multitouch gesture, ie if you are expanding 2nd finger away from first one -- it is like 'zoom-out' or increase of smth. analogously, by comparing to the first coordinate (of 1st finger) rotations / horizontal zoomin/ vertical zooming etc could be derived multitouch gesture mode would stop when fingers leave the screen or there is once again a singificant jump from prev coordinate (like you raise one finger up prior to the other one) alternative mode can be that after 'two finger' non-synchroneous touch which switches to multitouch mode you drive your gesture with only second finger (ie raise the first one off the screen) -- that would allow for better control over the gesture since no averaging of coordinates between two points would happen. And again, multitouch mode is left whenever finger is raised of the screen. if someone is to implement/test such approach, qwo might be a nice code base to start from... alternatively I guess tslib for those with debian+fbdev xserver. -- .-. =-- /v\ = Keep in touch// \\ (yoh@|www.)onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko /( )\ ICQ#: 60653192 Linux User^^-^^[17] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Multitouch on FR ... imho should be possible to mimic
It's tough to say until someone tries it. I don't have the GUI expertise to do anything of the sort, but I'd love to see someone try it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Multitouch on FR ... imho should be possible to mimic
--- On Tue, 3/24/09, Joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org wrote: This has been discussed multiple times since last ~15months. The basic assumption a middle-point when touching with 2 fingers might be anyway exactly in the middle is incorrect. It depends on pressure of each touchpoint. There have been many different opinions about feasibility of this approach, I for one think it won't work. --- On Tue, 3/24/09, The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com wrote: It's tough to say until someone tries it. I don't have the GUI expertise to do anything of the sort, but I'd love to see someone try it. I have seen this thread long as well. I am not sure what you are trying to do because I have not read all the mails, but for simple tasks the middle-point when touching with two fingers works... you need to use your imagination when developing with multi touch in your minds. For Linball I simply use the middle-point when touching with two fingers to be able to use both flippers to try to do trapping, and that works fine. So just use the middle for multi touch, write code to test and you will realize out how to use multi touch for your purposes with this behavior. If you were talking in another idea completely different, my apologies for this OT :) Regards, Rafa ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is SIM Toolkit possible to support on the freerunner?
Am Di 24. März 2009 schrieb Michael 'Mickey' Lauer: Technically, SIM toolkit support is possible with the Calypso. I have commented previously about this, so please look my older posts up; In a nutshell, STK is a heavy cross-layer spec, so adding it would need quit some thought. FSO will not work on it, but appreciate patches. My vote: don't implement STK, or at least disable it by default. I don't like my SIM to do any program execution /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Flashing error?
On Tuesday 24 March 2009, xiangfu wrote: On Mar 22, 2009, at 5:32 AM, Brigzzy Ory'Hara wrote: I'm not flashing it to the SD card, I'm using the onboard flash. But now that you mention it, in an attempt to troubleshoot an unrelated problem, I did delete both the partitions on the SD card. Could this be causing my problem? For install the Android to Freerunner you must format you sd card to two partition. the first one is fat and second is ext. Android needs those two partition. Just to clarify: you can have more than 2 partitions, but Android will use the first two, and they need to be vfat on the first, and ext3 on the second. You can do what you like with the other partitions. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left
Am Di 24. März 2009 schrieb Laszlo KREKACS: Who left? At the hardware side: Werner and Joerg I'm no longer busy for OM on a regular monthly plan. OM is free to contract me for particular tasks, but for now that doesn't seem to happen in the near future. cheers jOERG signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Debian] Usable alarm clock/timer app?
Hey, I have found ffalarms on opkg.org (iirc), but that requires atd which is installed on my local Debian Sid machine, but I cannot find it in the Debian repos to install it on the Neo. So is there a (finger-usable?) alarm clock application somewhere? I know there will be tons of them on ftp.*.debian.org, but the one I found (alarm-clock) relies on systray which is not what I want... I'd prefer something running as daemon and producing a wakeup interrupt + doing something fancy. Does such an app exist yet? :D -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left
You should have stopped here IMHO. It really is none of our (community's) business, and it would be a lot more productive to just focus on the question of where do we go from here? Hey, something being none of our business has never stopped a good rant before! Personally I'm beginning to feel like the only hope for getting a decent phone out of the FR is the independent work going on around android. Actually, beginning is a lie. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Back-to-the-Basics-plan%3A-Andy-left-tp2524593p2528090.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is SIM Toolkit possible to support on the freerunner?
My vote: don't implement STK, or at least disable it by default. I don't like my SIM to do any program execution /j My vote: implement it, banking is part of mobile communication like calls and sms with the same relevance, for me it is the one and only thing, that make me not use neo as phone but PDA only -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Is-%22SIM-Toolkit%22-possible-to-support-on-the-freerunner--tp2519985p2528159.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] Usable alarm clock/timer app?
Yeah, I'd love to see one for SHR-Unstable too, as the default alarm clock app went all wacky on me and tried to kill my SHR. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[OT] Re: [Debian] Usable alarm clock/timer app?
Am Tuesday 24 March 2009 20:03:51 schrieb The Digital Pioneer: Yeah, I'd love to see one for SHR-Unstable too, as the default alarm clock app went all wacky on me and tried to kill my SHR. Ya, that's why we desperately need sandboxing, such apps will one day conquer the internet and rule us! :D -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
shr- avoid suspend and dim screen
Hi, I would like to avoid suspend while using GPS (tangoGPS) but at the same time allow the screen t switch off. I found on the wiki a page about ompower (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Ompower) but the first command, to get a list of the available resources dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.openmoko.Power / org.openmoko.Power.Core.ListResources returns an error: Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: the name org.openmoko.Power was not provide by any .service files I suppose to avoid suspension and switch off the screen are quite common needs. How are people doing it? Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr- avoid suspend and dim screen
I'm using SHR Unstable, and I never have it suspend automatically just for reasons like this. It still turns off the screen after a while though. What I would like to see is the disabling of screen dimming while (for instance) a game such as MokoMaze is running, which has no screen touching. It's a huge pain when you're about to win, and the screen blacks out and you die. Hahah ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr- avoid suspend and dim screen
Ah! I forgot to tell: I'm using shr unstable from January and the settings UI doesn't work, , so I was looking for a command line instruction to suspend on/off. Unfortunately, suspend off is not sufficient since the battey gets drained too fast, in a couple hours while using GPS. I don't know how much power the GPS and CPU is being used, but I'm sure switching off the screen would help. Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr- avoid suspend and dim screen
Can you not opkg update opkg upgrade? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Linball game 0.2 version
I know it's been a while since anyone last wrote, but I just thought I would try it on SHR-testing (20080303). When it starts up, it rotates the screen, flashes a couple of times then returns to the window. The bash script is doing it's job, but the exectuble is returning with a: Warning: Audio could not be setup for 22050 Hz 16-bit stereo Reason: There's no reason for running the application. Would you be able to debug this. I'd really like to check this out. I would try it myself, but I am using my phone for daily use now so I want to stay away from it right now. Thanks On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Yaroslav Halchenko site-openmoko@onerussian.com wrote: just a quick trick for users of such a good client as mutt: you have ability to break 'hi-jacked' thread into a separate one by using shortcut '#' which corresponds to function 'break-thread' iirc On Wed, 11 Feb 2009, Vincent MEURISSE wrote: Please don't use the Reply button to create a new thread. Good mail client get fucked with that. -- .-. =-- /v\ = Keep in touch // \\ (yoh@|www.)onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko /( )\ ICQ#: 60653192 Linux User ^^-^^ [17] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Linball game 0.2 version
Hello, --- On Tue, 3/24/09, Will Siddall will.sidd...@gmail.com wrote: I know it's been a while since anyone last wrote, but I just thought I would try it on SHR-testing (20080303). When it starts up, it rotates the screen, flashes a couple of times then returns to the window. The bash script is doing it's job, but the exectuble is returning with a: Warning: Audio could not be setup for 22050 Hz 16-bit stereo Reason: There's no reason for running the application. Would you be able to debug this. I'd really like to check this out. I would try it myself, but I am using my phone for daily use now so I want to stay away from it right now. some user reported a similar problem. You need to have the oss-alsa modules loaded. Try with: modprobe snd_pcm_oss modprobe snd_mixer_oss cd /usr/share/linball-openmoko export DISPLAY=:0 /usr/bin/linball Regards, Rafa ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Data call (aka CSD) with QtExtended
Hi Tuan, I was able to make a datacall to a landline modem :-) So you can use your freerunner to dial in to an ISP if you like. i wil paste the proof of my success below. Now i just need to find a way to make it less expensive... Kind regards, Ed MODEM=$(dbus-send --system --print-reply --type=method_call --dest=org.pyneo.muxer /org/pyneo/Muxer org.freesmartphone.GSM.MUX.AllocChannel string:$identvar | grep string | awk -F '' '{ print $2 }') pppd nodetach debug call inbel ${MODEM} timeout set to 25 seconds send (ATE0^M) abort on (BUSY) abort on (DELAYED) abort on (NO ANSWER) abort on (NO DIALTONE) abort on (VOICE) abort on (ERROR) abort on (RINGING) expect (OK) ^M OK -- got it send (AT+CBST=0,0,1^M) expect (OK) ^M ^M OK -- got it send (AT+CR=1^M) expect (OK) ^M ^M OK -- got it send (atdt 1234567890^M) expect (CONNECT) ^M ^M +CR: REL ASYNC^M ^M CONNECT -- got it send (^M) expect (Login) ^M ^M Login -- got it send (isp_user_n...@your.isp.dom^m) expect (Password) : isp_user_n...@your.isp.dom^m Password -- got it send (your_isp_passwd^M) expect (L2TP) : ^M ^M^M L2TP -- got it send (/n/d^M) Serial connection established. using channel 11 Using interface ppp0 Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/pts/4 rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x0] sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0x34d2bbd3 pcomp accomp] sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x0] rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0xa auth pap magic 0x148b1bd pcomp accomp mrru 1524 endpoint [local:61.72.31.2e.6e.69.6b.2d.61.73.64] 17 04 59 3d] sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x1 mrru 1524 17 04 59 3d] rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0x34d2bbd3 pcomp accomp] rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x2 asyncmap 0xa auth pap magic 0x148b1bd pcomp accomp endpoint [local:61.72.31.2e.6e.69.6b.2d.61.73.64]] sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x2 asyncmap 0xa auth pap magic 0x148b1bd pcomp accomp endpoint [local:61.72.31.2e.6e.69.6b.2d.61.73.64]] sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 magic=0x34d2bbd3] sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x1 user=isp_user_n...@your.isp.dom password=hidden] rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 magic=0x148b1bd] rcvd [PAP AuthAck id=0x1 ] PAP authentication succeeded sent [CCP ConfReq id=0x1 mppe -H -M -S -L -D -C deflate 15 deflate(old#) 15 bsd v1 15] sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 compress VJ 0f 01 addr 0.0.0.0 ms-dns1 0.0.0.0 ms-dns3 0.0.0.0] rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 addr 213.53.28.122] sent [IPCP ConfAck id=0x1 addr 213.53.28.122] rcvd [LCP EchoReq id=0x1 magic=0x148b1bd c0 23 05 06] sent [LCP EchoRep id=0x1 magic=0x34d2bbd3 00 00 00 00] rcvd [LCP ProtRej id=0x3 80 fd 01 01 00 15 12 06 00 00 00 00 1a 04 78 00 18 04 78 00 15 03 2f] rcvd [IPCP ConfRej id=0x1 compress VJ 0f 01] sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x2 addr 0.0.0.0 ms-dns1 0.0.0.0 ms-dns3 0.0.0.0] rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x2 addr 213.53.28.122] sent [IPCP ConfAck id=0x2 addr 213.53.28.122] rcvd [IPCP ConfNak id=0x2 addr 217.149.216.138 ms-dns1 217.149.196.6 ms-dns3 217.149.192.6] sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x3 addr 217.149.216.138 ms-dns1 217.149.196.6 ms-dns3 217.149.192.6] rcvd [IPCP ConfAck id=0x3 addr 217.149.216.138 ms-dns1 217.149.196.6 ms-dns3 217.149.192.6] replacing old default route to usb0 [192.168.0.200] local IP address 217.149.216.138 remote IP address 213.53.28.122 primary DNS address 217.149.196.6 secondary DNS address 217.149.192.6 Script /etc/ppp/ip-up started (pid 1992) Script /etc/ppp/ip-up finished (pid 1992), status = 0x0 Terminating on signal 2 Connect time 0.6 minutes. Sent 874 bytes, received 1113 bytes. restoring old default route to usb0 [192.168.0.200] Script /etc/ppp/ip-down started (pid 2005) sent [LCP TermReq id=0x2 User request] Script /etc/ppp/ip-down finished (pid 2005), status = 0x0 rcvd [LCP TermAck id=0x2] Connection terminated. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr- avoid suspend and dim screen
The Digital Pioneer wrote: Can you not opkg update opkg upgrade? Actually I don't know what exactly that would lead to: wold I get SHR testing or the current SHR unstable? OTH, my current setup works (mostly) well and recently there were a bunch of people reporting problems with getting a GPS fix, and I don't want to go through that process again myself. I would expect to exist some command line instructions (like dbus-send) to control suspend and screen on/off. Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr- avoid suspend and dim screen
That will just get you latest unstable. I do it frequently, and it all works about as well as can be expected, including GPS. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Simple touching test (maybe someday multitouch test)
Hi, I made first simple application to test touchscreen. It doesn't give me much hope about multitouching, but maybe we can discuss better if we have something. http://cc.oulu.fi/~rantalai/freerunner/touching/ It is gtk program which prints 1) mouse location 2) mouse button press (and its location) 3) mouse button release (and its location) Compiling for Moko: . /usr/local/openmoko/arm/environment-setup make Compiling for Computer: comment out 'CC = arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc' on Makefile make I made these test with OM2008.12. If you have time check what your distribution says. Usage: ssh -X r...@moko Case A) [ using computers screen and mouse ] ./touching_test Move mousepointer to window, press button down, move pointer, release button. Terminal output: Pointer moving at (17, 11) Button pressed at (17, 11) Pointer moving at (18, 11) Pointer moving at (19, 11) Pointer moving at (20, 11) Pointer moving at (29, 11) Pointer moving at (43, 11) Pointer moving at (51, 11) Pointer moving at (69, 11) Pointer moving at (89, 11) Pointer moving at (99, 13) Pointer moving at (109, 13) Button released at (113, 13) Pointer moving at (112, 13) Pointer moving at (112, 12) Case B) [ using touchscreen ] DISPLAY=:0 ./touching_test Put stylus somewhere, move it, release it. Terminal output: Pointer moving at (113, 101) Button pressed at (113, 101) Pointer moving at (112, 102) Button released at (436, 103) Case C) [ touchscreen with two stylus] DISPLAY=:0 ./touching_test Put 1st stylus somewhere in top left (and do not release it) Terminal output Pointer moving at (37, 20) Button pressed at (37, 20) Pointer moving at (42, 26) (Start all subcases 1st stylus is in top left) Subcase 1) Put 2nd stylus somewhere in bottom right Terminal output NOTHING Subcase 2) Put 2nd stylus anywhere and move it, release it, put it again, move etc. Terminal output NOTHING Subcase 3) Put 2nd stylus somewhere in bottom right. Release 1st stylus Terminal output NOTHING Release 2nd stylus Terminal output Button released at (454, 438) Subcase 4) Put 2nd stylus somewhere in bottom right Release both in ~sametime Terminal output Button released at (216, 363) midpoint Case B was something which breaks my plans how to implement multitouch. (It doesn't give any messages when dragged) btw: If this doesn't work with GTK, can it work some other way? (Xlib, Qt) -Aapo Rantalainen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr- avoid suspend and dim screen
The Digital Pioneer wrote: That will just get you latest unstable. I do it frequently, and it all works about as well as can be expected, including GPS. Ok, great! Thanks, Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left
Thanks Gunnar, There is one thing we tend to be very tight lipped about. HR issues. That is its very rare that you will find any employee commenting on why a particular individual is not with the company anymore. Some people are let go for performance. Some are let go due to cost cutting. Some choose voluntary separation. Some request to be let go. This is highly personel data, so we try to avoid at all costs talking about these issues. As to the other issues, there are some cases were the situation is so fluid and still in process that commenting really isnt possible. I'll relook at the official buzz fix thread and see if I can add anything helpful. Gunnar Aastrand Grimnes wrote: I love these threads where we talk about company things, like the recent official buzz fix thread, or the secret UI design team IRC conversation, and there is NEVER any response from OpenMoko. I wonder if they see the community mailinglist as COMMUNITY ONLY, i.e. no employees allowed? :) Cheers, - Gunnar Laszlo KREKACS wrote: Dear List, I can't express how sad I'm when I read Andy Green left Openmoko. I do not know why he left (and it is not my business anyway), but I know since Andy was at Openmoko the kernel side began to form shape, and got things work. (suspend? anyone?) I know that every people is replacable at a company, but show me at least two people who made as much commit/day (and code quality) what Andy did. You cant, because there is no black magic here, no marketing mantra, it is all public and we can see who commits what into the git tree. So you just let go the single most valuable people at kernel side. Nice try. I do not know who is responsible for this desicion but I hope they are not the same design team who had fired Rasterman. Oh, and Harald Welte had left Openmoko too, but we never knew the exact details. Who left? At the hardware side: Werner and Joerg at the software side: Mirko and hmm, nobody? Im counting... How long will they stand? If I had enough money I would just hire those people and form a new company and outsource the fabrication to a chinese company (that's exactly what everyone does including apple) and forget about Openmoko (the name was a bad choice anyway ;) I know this letter a bit harsh, but it is intented to address to whom is concerned: Get your head out of your @ss, sit down and think about a bit. You must honor those people who gets the job done! The best would be just hire back those valueable people, and work out how they want to work. Even if they want to form a new (software) company, to make sure this situation will never happen again. I always wanted to buy the next model of openmoko, but I know exactly, if it has bugs (and surely it will), never or really slowly will be fixed (as the current(=everyone gets fired) situation shows). And if it will have hardware bugs, they will be never fixed by Openmoko (as the company), and I can just hope that some people offer *their free time and knowledge* and fix the problem UNOFFICIALLY (unless they did not get until fired). Can you imagine where we were today without Andy and Rasterman? I surely can: an unofficial/unsupported qtextended with an unoptimized 2.6.22 kernel. All those nice things came from these (fired) people. I'm afraid of the future. Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: question about kernel image build
xiangfu: i only burn the kernel image build myself, and the rootfs i used is Om2008.12-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2, i didn't change it. 2009/3/24 xiangfu xian...@openmoko.org On Mar 24, 2009, at 10:57 AM, mx li wrote: i got a freerunner, first i download the two image: Om2008.12-om-gta02.uImage.bin Om2008.12-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 use the dfu tools upgrade success. but i want to build the kernel image myself, so i do like this: 1. install git tools: apt-get install git 2. git clone git://git.openmoko.org/git/kernel.git linux-2.6 3. cd linux-2.6 git checkout origin/andy-tracking 4. cp arch/arm/configs/gta02-moredrivers-defconfig .config 5. download openmoko-i686-20080916-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 from http://downloads.openmoko.org/developer/toolchains/ 6. cd / sudo tar jxf /openmoko-i686-20080916-arm-linux-gnueabi- toolchain.tar.bz2 7. cd linux-2.6 mkdir GTA02 cp arch/arm/configs/gta02-moredrivers-defconfig ./GTA02/.config 8. vi /usr/local/openmoko/arm/setup-env modify line with : export LDFLAGS=-L${OMTOOL_DIR}/arm/arm-angstrom- linux-gnueabi/lib -rpath-link ${OMTOOL_DIR}/arm/arm-angstrom-linux- gnueabi/lib -O1 9. . /usr/local/openmoko/arm/setup-env 10. cd linux-2.6/ ./build GTA02 dummy after above, i use the dfu tools burn the uImage-GTA02.bin which under GTA02 directory to freerunner, but it stop at openmoko srceen, can't boot the system up, you should take a picture about the screen . :-) what is your rootfs?? why? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Xiangfu Best Regards ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: paroli updates
Mirko Lindner wrote: I am trying to get elementary in and etk out. That requires a lot of refactoring in the different apps. Oh... Cool! This is what I really wanted to read. I think that elementary is and must be the choice! ;) -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
linphone 3.1.0
Here's a preliminary bitbake recipe for the latest linphone release. Binaries for fso-milestone5 are in: http://openmoko.truebox.co.uk/repos/mazikeen/fso-milestone5/ipk/armv4t/ Problems: * I haven't got it to do sound yet - it seems unhappy with the alsa device capabilities. I don't know if this is a configuration issue or a fundamental problem. * The GUI will segfault if you try to open the Preferences. It's an upstream problem that happens if you don't enable video support, and was fixed in svn earlier today. * the GUI isn't finger-friendly. linphone provides the GUI, and linphonec the CLI. DESCRIPTION = SIP-based IP phone (console edition) HOMEPAGE = http://www.linphone.org/?lang=us; SECTION = x11/utils LICENSE = GPLv2 DEPENDS = intltool libosip2 speex libogg alsa-lib readline DEPENDS_${PN} = liblinphone DEPENDS_${PN}c = liblinphone readline DEPENDS_liblinphone = libmediastreamer libortp libosip2 libexosip2 DEPENDS_libmediastreamer = speex libogg alsa-lib libortp RDEPENDS_${PN} = liblinphone RDEPENDS_${PN}c = liblinphone readline RDEPENDS_liblinphone = libmediastreamer libortp libosip2 libexosip2 RDEPENDS_libmediastreamer = speex libogg libasound libortp PROVIDES += linphone linphonec liblinphone PR = r1 SRC_URI = http://download.savannah.nongnu.org/releases/linphone/3.1.x/sources/linphone-${PV}.tar.gz; S = ${WORKDIR}/linphone-${PV} inherit autotools pkgconfig export PKG_CONFIG=${STAGING_BINDIR_NATIVE}/pkg-config EXTRA_OECONF = --disable-gtk-doc \ --without-ffmpeg --disable-video --without-sdl \ --enable-alsa \ --with-osip=${STAGING_DIR_HOST}${layout_exec_prefix} \ --with-readline=${STAGING_DIR_HOST}${layout_exec_prefix} \ --with-speex=${STAGING_DIR_HOST}${layout_exec_prefix} \ --disable-truespeech --disable-manual \ --enable-strict=no \ PARALLEL_MAKE = do_stage () { install -d ${STAGING_DATADIR}/aclocal oe_libinstall -a -so liblinphone ${STAGING_LIBDIR} install -d ${STAGING_INCDIR}/linphone install -m 0644 ${S}/coreapi/linphonecore.h ${STAGING_INCDIR}/linphone install -m 0644 ${S}/coreapi/lpconfig.h ${STAGING_INCDIR}/linphone oe_libinstall -a -so libmediastreamer ${STAGING_LIBDIR} install -d ${STAGING_INCDIR}/mediastreamer2 install -m 0644 ${S}/mediastreamer2/include/mediastreamer2/*.h ${STAGING_INCDIR}/mediastreamer2 install -d ${STAGING_INCDIR}/ortp oe_libinstall -a -so libortp ${STAGING_LIBDIR}/ install -m 0644 ${S}/oRTP/include/ortp/*.h ${STAGING_INCDIR}/ortp/ autotools_stage_all } PACKAGES += linphonec linphone-rings liblinphone libmediastreamer libortp FILES_${PN} = ${bindir}/linphone ${bindir}/linphone-3 ${datadir}/pixmaps ${datadir}/applications ${datadir}/gnome/apps ${datadir}/linphone FILES_${PN}c = ${bindir}/linphonec ${bindir}/linphonecsh ${bindir}/sipomatic ${datadir}/sounds/linphone/ringback.wav FILES_${PN}-rings = ${datadir}/sounds/linphone/rings FILES_liblinphone = ${libdir}/liblinphone.so.* #FILES_libquickstream = ${libdir}/libquickstream.so.* FILES_libmediastreamer = ${libdir}/libmediastreamer.so.* FILES_libortp = ${libdir}/libortp.so.* FILES_${PN}-dev += ${libdir}/*.a ${libdir}/*.la ${libdir}/pkgconfig ${includedir} ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Google Summer of Code
Hey, I'm just wondering if there are any cool FR-related projects in GSoC this year. Anyone know? -- Thanks, The Digital Pioneer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue
using bt means: enable bt, power on headset, connect, pray your partner has not hung up annoyed. :) I think a more efficient way would be to keep the headset connected to the device and play only when you get the call. My guess is that this is what other phones do... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: question about kernel image build
i see the message: can't open kernel image i use the toolchain is: openmoko-i686-20080916-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 what wrong is it? 2009/3/25 mx li lz5...@gmail.com xiangfu: i only burn the kernel image build myself, and the rootfs i used is Om2008.12-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2, i didn't change it. 2009/3/24 xiangfu xian...@openmoko.org On Mar 24, 2009, at 10:57 AM, mx li wrote: i got a freerunner, first i download the two image: Om2008.12-om-gta02.uImage.bin Om2008.12-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 use the dfu tools upgrade success. but i want to build the kernel image myself, so i do like this: 1. install git tools: apt-get install git 2. git clone git://git.openmoko.org/git/kernel.git linux-2.6 3. cd linux-2.6 git checkout origin/andy-tracking 4. cp arch/arm/configs/gta02-moredrivers-defconfig .config 5. download openmoko-i686-20080916-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 from http://downloads.openmoko.org/developer/toolchains/ 6. cd / sudo tar jxf /openmoko-i686-20080916-arm-linux-gnueabi- toolchain.tar.bz2 7. cd linux-2.6 mkdir GTA02 cp arch/arm/configs/gta02-moredrivers-defconfig ./GTA02/.config 8. vi /usr/local/openmoko/arm/setup-env modify line with : export LDFLAGS=-L${OMTOOL_DIR}/arm/arm-angstrom- linux-gnueabi/lib -rpath-link ${OMTOOL_DIR}/arm/arm-angstrom-linux- gnueabi/lib -O1 9. . /usr/local/openmoko/arm/setup-env 10. cd linux-2.6/ ./build GTA02 dummy after above, i use the dfu tools burn the uImage-GTA02.bin which under GTA02 directory to freerunner, but it stop at openmoko srceen, can't boot the system up, you should take a picture about the screen . :-) what is your rootfs?? why? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Xiangfu Best Regards ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] Usable alarm clock/timer app?
And mine on shr-testing annoyed the family so much THEY wanted to kill SHR, the FR and me in whatever order it took to shut it up in the early hours of the morning ... :) BillK On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 14:03 -0500, The Digital Pioneer wrote: Yeah, I'd love to see one for SHR-Unstable too, as the default alarm clock app went all wacky on me and tried to kill my SHR. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr- avoid suspend and dim screen
Taken from the replies to a similar post of mine (I think!) some time back. Replace the exec call in the desktop file (/usr/share/applications/tangogps) to this script. The exports work around where tango cant seem to find its home config This is my car script - sets up the FR so I can place it in a recess of the dash in landscape mode. For walking i dont rotate the screen, and allow suspend (just comment out the relevant lines). One day I'll get around to replacing it with a c program using library calls which will hopefully speed it up - I am using this script to customise tango, mofi, FBreader etc. Using shr-testing up to date a few days ago (as I am having problems building my repo at the moment :) BillK r...@om-gta02:~# cat mefiles/tgps #!/bin/sh export USER='root' export HOME='/home/root' export PWD='/home/root' cd /home/root /usr/bin/xrandr -o 1 mdbus -s org.shr.ophonekitd.Usage /org/shr/ophonekitd/Usage org.shr.ophonekitd.Usage.RequestResource 'CPU' mdbus -s org.shr.ophonekitd.Usage /org/shr/ophonekitd/Usage org.shr.ophonekitd.Usage.RequestResource 'Display' /usr/bin/tangogps mdbus -s org.shr.ophonekitd.Usage /org/shr/ophonekitd/Usage org.shr.ophonekitd.Usage.ReleaseResource 'CPU' mdbus -s org.shr.ophonekitd.Usage /org/shr/ophonekitd/Usage org.shr.ophonekitd.Usage.ReleaseResource 'Display' /usr/bin/xrandr -o 0 r...@om-gta02:~# On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 20:58 +0100, Fernando Martins wrote: Ah! I forgot to tell: I'm using shr unstable from January and the settings UI doesn't work, , so I was looking for a command line instruction to suspend on/off. Unfortunately, suspend off is not sufficient since the battey gets drained too fast, in a couple hours while using GPS. I don't know how much power the GPS and CPU is being used, but I'm sure switching off the screen would help. Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko meeting Stuttgart (Wed 25.03.2009)
Hi, that was a little short notice, but I will do my best to be there at 19:00. See you there.. Bernhard signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community