Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left

2009-03-24 Thread Michele Renda
On 24/03/2009 03:44, Laszlo KREKACS wrote:
 The best would be just hire back those valueable people, and work out how
 they want to work. Even if they want to form a new (software) company, to
 make sure this situation will never happen again.

Hello,
who told you that he was fired from Openmoko? May be simply he wanted to 
move to another company.
In every case I think is better to stop to speak until we receive a 
official announce (from OM or from Andy).

Michele Renda

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Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left

2009-03-24 Thread clare johnstone
Michele and others you could try reading what Andy said here:

fromAndy Green a...@openmoko.com   hide details   
 Mar 23 (17 hours ago)
to  Nicolas Dufresne nicolas.dufre...@gmail.com   
cc  openmoko-ker...@lists.openmoko.org  
dateMar 23, 2009 1:32 PM
subject Re: [PATCH] Forced shutdown for / Andy  
mailed-by   lists.openmoko.org

regards,
clare

On 3/24/09, Michele Renda michele.re...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 24/03/2009 03:44, Laszlo KREKACS wrote:
   The best would be just hire back those valueable people, and work out how
   they want to work. Even if they want to form a new (software) company, to
   make sure this situation will never happen again.
  

 Hello,
  who told you that he was fired from Openmoko? May be simply he wanted to
  move to another company.
  In every case I think is better to stop to speak until we receive a
  official announce (from OM or from Andy).


  Michele Renda


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Re: paroli updates

2009-03-24 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi,

 Is paroli still being worked upon? I see that the latest git changes 
 were made 10 days ago. Some kind of holiday going on?

Sure, I am still fighting :)

Stumbled across some issues that meant I had to do a lot of research etc.

I am trying to get elementary in and etk out. That requires a lot of 
refactoring in the different apps. To not break was is out there right 
now I decided not to upload it yet.

Angus managed to get a new revision of enlightenment to build last 
night, so my hopes are up that I can push lots of things soon.

I am currently moving also, so don't have the usual time to invest in 
paroli, but if all goes well I'll be done today and resume full 
production wed or thu :) So don't run away and stay tuned :)

/mirko



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Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left

2009-03-24 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 03:44:06 +0100 Laszlo KREKACS
laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com said:
 
 I do not know who is responsible for this desicion but I hope they are
 not the same design team who had fired Rasterman.

who said i was fired? i quit (hanged in my resignation) of my own volition. :)
handed in resignation last year start of august - that was mu last month @
om. :)

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Re: paroli updates

2009-03-24 Thread Marcel
Am Tuesday 24 March 2009 08:18:13 schrieb Mirko Lindner:
 Hi,

  Is paroli still being worked upon? I see that the latest git changes
  were made 10 days ago. Some kind of holiday going on?
 I am trying to get elementary in and etk out.
[...]

Does this mean that paroli will finally also run on debian which is missing 
python-etk? I'd be really happy to hear that. :D

PS: Yes, I sent that mail to pkg-e-devel politely requesting the package, but 
there was no reaction... They seem to be busy getting along anyway :)

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Re: paroli updates

2009-03-24 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi,

Marcel wrote:

 Does this mean that paroli will finally also run on debian which is missing 
 python-etk? I'd be really happy to hear that. :D
 

That would be part of the deal yes :) I am not sure how long the switch 
takes, but I am doing my best. If anyone wants to lend a hand, I'd be 
more than happy :)

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Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left

2009-03-24 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:04:30 +0100, clare johnstone clar...@gmail.com  
wrote:

 Michele and others you could try reading what Andy said here:
   
   fromAndy Green a...@openmoko.com   hide details   
  Mar 23 (17 hours  
 ago)
   to  Nicolas Dufresne nicolas.dufre...@gmail.com   
   cc  openmoko-ker...@lists.openmoko.org  
   dateMar 23, 2009 1:32 PM
   subject Re: [PATCH] Forced shutdown for / Andy  
   mailed-by   lists.openmoko.org

That still doesn't say he was fired.


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Openmoko meeting Stuttgart (Wed 25.03.2009)

2009-03-24 Thread vale

Hi everyone,

i want to announce that we will meet Wed 25.03.2009 at 19:00 for a first 
come-together-meeting in Stuttgart:

Location: 
Wichtel Hausbrauerei
Stuttgarter Strasse 21
70469 Stuttgart

http://www.wichtel.de/

Its in Stuttgart-Feuerbach near the S-Bahn Station there.

You are all invited to join, we will meet at 19:00 at the entrance and then 
find a place. People joining later can find us looking for the Freerunners on 
the table ;)

It would be nice if you drop me a note, if you plan to come, so that in case we 
are many people i can reserve a table. At the moment i know of 5 people.

Greetings and hope to see you

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Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left

2009-03-24 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:12:42 +0100 Alexey Feldgendler ale...@feldgendler.ru
said:

 On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:04:30 +0100, clare johnstone clar...@gmail.com  
 wrote:
 
  Michele and others you could try reading what Andy said here:
  
  fromAndy Green a...@openmoko.com
  hide details Mar 23 (17 hours ago)
  to  Nicolas Dufresne
  nicolas.dufre...@gmail.com cc
  openmoko-ker...@lists.openmoko.org date Mar 23, 2009 1:32
  PM subject  Re: [PATCH] Forced shutdown for / Andy  
  mailed-by   lists.openmoko.org
 
 That still doesn't say he was fired.

at least Laszlo never said he was fired at all. quote:

I can't express how sad I'm when I read Andy Green left Openmoko.

and you  just let go is ambiguous - i.e. he could have been made redundant
(different to being fired), and it could just as easily mean he decided to
leave and you didn't make a counter offer to keep him.

he was wrong that they fired me though. :)

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Re: Accelerometer Data

2009-03-24 Thread Michael Tansella
Thank you very much for the sample code. I've just read that Andy has left 
Openmoko, so I wonder what will happen to the Andy-tracking Kernel. I hope 
that the changes to the ABS sync events will go into the stable Kernel. When 
that happens I'll add your Code to the Wiki if you agree.

All the best
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Re: Is SIM Toolkit possible to support on the freerunner?

2009-03-24 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Technically, SIM toolkit support is possible with the Calypso.

I have commented previously about this, so please look my older posts
up; In a nutshell, STK is a heavy cross-layer spec, so adding it would
need quit some thought.

FSO will not work on it, but appreciate patches.

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Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-03-24 Thread arne anka
 - you need another set of headphones with 2.5 plug
 Hmm, I don't see the point here. Can be done with any headset/headphones,
 including the FR accessory ones.
 Probably I got you wrong.

there was some discussion about the pinout of those things months ago --  
did that refer to headsets only?
and, i don't see headphones with 2.5 plug for sale everywhere.

but. of course, it's a minor issue.


only to make it absolutely clear: there is no way to modify a wired  
headset to make it work buzz-free reliable?

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Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-03-24 Thread Paul Fertser
arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de writes:
 - you need another set of headphones with 2.5 plug
 Hmm, I don't see the point here. Can be done with any headset/headphones,
 including the FR accessory ones.
 Probably I got you wrong.

 there was some discussion about the pinout of those things months ago --  
 did that refer to headsets only?
 and, i don't see headphones with 2.5 plug for sale everywhere.

pinout is a non-issue. Yes, the FR's pinout is incompatible to 3-ring
2.5mm plug of regular headphones. But you can get 4-ring 2.5mm from a
store.

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Re: Bying a Freerunner with the buzz-fix on it

2009-03-24 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
Xavier Cremaschi a écrit :
 Hi,
 one month after, do you have any update relative to shipping date of 
 GTA02v7 ?
 
 Kind regards,
 Xavier

mode Biff Tannen ON : Hello? Hello? Anybody home? Huh?

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Re: Bying a Freerunner with the buzz-fix on it

2009-03-24 Thread Cédric Berger
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 01:39, Alexander Raab raab.alexan...@gmx.at wrote:

 But a few months ago I met someone and he told me that the buzzing is
 quite heavy.
 I read about a fix for that on the A7, but there is only a A6 sold. Have
 I missed something?

I do not know what will be fixed on the A7.
And Paul Ferster wrote about a modification related to buzz... on  the A8

http://n2.nabble.com/Buzz-Issues---Last-Questions%2C-I-promise-tp2509041p2521177.html

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 14:51, Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
 NB: Factory-produced A8 will have ferrite beads in place (so RF will
 not get anywhere it can be detected in the first place), and that
 should probably solve all known buzz problems.


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Re: Bying a Freerunner with the buzz-fix on it

2009-03-24 Thread Paul Fertser
Cédric Berger cedric.berge...@gmail.com writes:
 On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 01:39, Alexander Raab raab.alexan...@gmx.at wrote:
 But a few months ago I met someone and he told me that the buzzing is
 quite heavy.
 I read about a fix for that on the A7, but there is only a A6 sold. Have
 I missed something?

 I do not know what will be fixed on the A7.
 And Paul Ferster wrote about a modification related to buzz... on  the A8

A7 is the same like A6 with factory applied buzz fix. Not fixing
headset mic. A8 should fix all known buzz issues.

Probably A7 will also probably have an extra cap in the earpiece path
that will require to tweak output volume comparing to current
settings.

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[debian] preferred working kernel at the moment?

2009-03-24 Thread Fox Mulder
Hi,

i wonder which kernel is the best or lets say the most stable and
working für debian at the moment. Since i upgraded from the last 2.6.24
kernels to the 2.6.28/29 i have more problems than benefits. :/

I tried the latest selfcompiled andy-tracking from [1] and the latest
unstable OM kernel from [2]. There are a few more locations for kernels
which i didn't try so far. But both kernels i tried didn't change in the
last ~2 weeks why i wonder if there is a better/newer kernel version
somewhere available. I also don't know if andy-tracking is still the
newest version after andy left openmoko.

The really big improvment from 2.6.24-2.6.28/29 is that the standby
time has improved really much. With this i can firstly carry the phone
with me without to be worried about an empty battery at the evening.

But than the problems on the other side are real blockers. First big
problem is that after suspend the backlight mechanism doesn't recognize
a touch on the screen anymore. Therefor after it dims and gets dark it
never get back to full brightness after i touch the screen. But the
desktop itself recognizes my touch and i can work as long as the
backlight is still on. I found out that the backlight gets back on when
i press the aux button. This is happening with andy-tracking. I still
have to try if this also happens with the latest official 2.6.28.

Second big problem for me is that wlan isn't working anymore. With
2.6.24 it worked quite good and stable. But with 2.6.28-OM and
2.6.29-andy it only works half. I can associate with my AP and the
freerunner and my AP both list each other as connected. But than no
communication works at all. I started wireshark on my freerunner and it
shows that the only protocoll which is exchanged is LLC which i don't
know. But the dhcp request is never answered. And wireshark on my
linux-AP shows that it never receives any request at all. At the moment
i only tried dhcp and no static configuration on my freerunner. But dhcp
worked very stable with the 2.6.24 kernel and a static configuration is
not very usefull whith changing wlan locations.

Another problem is that the memory consumption on debian is much higher
and the system responsiveness is much slower than before. But this could
also be a problem of other system components which are updated on a
regular basis.

So i hope anyone can suggest me a kernel which works as much as i could
even use my freerunner again. At the moment it is useless without
working backlight after suspend and working wlan. :/


Ciao,
 Rainer


[1] http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=andy-tracking
[2] http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/unstable/NeoFreerunner/

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Re: Accelerometer Data

2009-03-24 Thread Iain B. FIndleton
The location of the control interfaces for the accelerometers in the 
2.6.28 build has moved to :

/sys/bus/platform/devices/lis302dl.x/...

After reading the code for the driver version on the git tree, I 
discovered that the settings for sample_rate and full_scale are limited 
to 2 values only, and the units of the threshold value are determined by 
the full_scale settings.

As to the time intervals between reports, to my view, they are still 
pretty erratic, although at least the time codes on the reports are at 
least always increasing in time.

The code read so far appears to indicate that the overrun values are not 
reported. Is there an easy way to get the exact, current source for the 
driver that is used in the 2.6.28 release? Even although I have been 
reading diff files since the 1970s they still cause my brain to dissolve 
an leak out of my ears.

What I am wondering is whether the devices themselves report according 
to spec and setup? It pretty hard to make use of the data for much if 
you can't determine the time interval that the acceleration value refers to.

As to keeping up with the device, I can envisage code that would be too 
slow as a possibility, but a 500 MHz processor should easily manage a 10 
ms device, one would think. I have not personally seen a timing issue 
for a device on a modern CPU since the 1980s.


Neil Brown wrote:
 On Monday March 23, ifindle...@videotron.ca wrote:
   
 Okay, it looks like the 2.6.28 kernel and modules are an improvement for 
 the accelerometer data, but the report times, while not negative any 
 more, appear somewhat erratic. The type codes appear to be unchanged in 
 this build, with the driver reporting EV_REL and EV_SYN.
 

 The time codes should be very reliable, and should be spaced at 10ms
 intervals as the device interrupts at 100Hz (by default).

 Each open file on the /dev/input/eventXX device has an internal buffer
 of 64 entries.  If your application is not able to read fast enough to
 keep that buffer from over flowing, then you will occasionally loose
 chunks of 64 entries (and so see gaps for 640 ms).

 However this is not what I see.  If I measure the time between EV_SYN
 reports for 1000 such reports, I get a histogram like
freq ms
 805 10
 136 20
  34 30
  11 40
   1 41
   4 51
   5 61
   1 71

 Which isn't what I expected.  No over-runs are being reported, and
 there are no 640ms gaps, so the internal buffer isn't wrapping.

 (goes and reads code again...)

 Ah.  If none of X, Y, or Z change, then EV_SYN won't be reported
 either.  So this presumably shows that there are times when the
 accelerometers think the device is completely stable - nothing
 changing.

 If the device were reporting EV_REL events, then you could only lose
 EV_SYN events if all three axes reported 0, which means perfect
 free-fall.  That seem unlikely...

 I have a patch which I'm in the middle of writing which makes the
 'sample_rate' sysfs setting more useful.  Instead of just '100' or
 '400' you can have any other (smaller) value, and it samples the
 accelerometers at that rates.  So e.g. '10' with give 10 samples per
 second, and '0.1' will give one every 10 seconds.  When I get up to
 testing that I'll make sure that it delivers properly times events.

 You do similar histogram-generation tests yourself by:

  wget http://beagleboard.googlecode.com/files/evtest.c
  cc -o evtest evtest.c
  ./evtest /dev/input/event2   | grep Sync | awk '{print int(($3 - prev)*1000) 
 ; prev = $3}' | sed 1000q | sort  | uniq -c

 I would be interested to see what you get using a kernel that
 reports EV_REL events.

 'evtest' is a very useful program for experimenting with the various
 input devices.

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Re: question about kernel image build

2009-03-24 Thread xiangfu

On Mar 24, 2009, at 10:57 AM, mx li wrote:

 i got a freerunner, first i download the two image:
 Om2008.12-om-gta02.uImage.bin
 Om2008.12-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2
 use the dfu tools upgrade success.

 but i want to build the kernel image myself, so i do like this:
 1.
 install git tools: apt-get install git
 2.
 git clone git://git.openmoko.org/git/kernel.git linux-2.6
 3.
 cd linux-2.6
 git checkout origin/andy-tracking
 4.
 cp arch/arm/configs/gta02-moredrivers-defconfig .config
 5.
 download openmoko-i686-20080916-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2  
 from
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/developer/toolchains/
 6.
 cd /
 sudo tar jxf /openmoko-i686-20080916-arm-linux-gnueabi- 
 toolchain.tar.bz2
 7.
 cd linux-2.6
 mkdir GTA02
 cp arch/arm/configs/gta02-moredrivers-defconfig ./GTA02/.config
 8.
 vi /usr/local/openmoko/arm/setup-env
 modify line with : export LDFLAGS=-L${OMTOOL_DIR}/arm/arm-angstrom- 
 linux-gnueabi/lib -rpath-link ${OMTOOL_DIR}/arm/arm-angstrom-linux- 
 gnueabi/lib -O1
 9.
 .   /usr/local/openmoko/arm/setup-env
 10.
 cd linux-2.6/
 ./build GTA02 dummy

 after above, i use the dfu tools burn the uImage-GTA02.bin which  
 under GTA02 directory to freerunner, but it
 stop at openmoko srceen, can't boot the system up,
you should take a picture about the screen . :-)

what is your rootfs??


 why?


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Re: Flashing error?

2009-03-24 Thread xiangfu

On Mar 22, 2009, at 5:32 AM, Brigzzy Ory'Hara wrote:

 I'm not flashing it to the SD card, I'm using the onboard flash.   
 But now that you mention it, in an attempt to troubleshoot an  
 unrelated problem, I did delete both the partitions on the SD card.   
 Could this be causing my problem?


For install the Android to Freerunner
you must format you sd card to two partition.
the first one is fat and second is ext.
Android needs those two partition.

 2009/3/21 rakshat hooja raks...@gmail.com
 Did you create the fat and ext partion on your sd card?

 On 3/22/09, Brigzzy Ory'Hara brig...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hello all,
 
  I'm using neotool to flash my freerunner with the latest android  
 image
  (panicking version 14.6-cupcake) and kernel (uImage-v15-ext3), but  
 I'm
  getting the same error on boot.  If I boot it through the NOR boot  
 menu, it
  says it can't find the kernel image.  If I boot it normally (and  
 in verboose
  mode), it gets to the part talking about the  
 request_suspend_state, then
  does a bunch of stuff with the power_supply (for about 20 lines,  
 then loops
  back to the request_suspend_state.  Has anyone else run into these
  problems?
 
  Danny Briggs
 


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Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left

2009-03-24 Thread Gunnar Aastrand Grimnes
I love these threads where we talk about company things, like the recent
 official buzz fix thread, or the secret UI design team IRC
conversation, and there is NEVER any response from OpenMoko.

I wonder if they see the community mailinglist as COMMUNITY ONLY, i.e.
no employees allowed? :)

Cheers,

- Gunnar

Laszlo KREKACS wrote:
 Dear List,
 
 
 I can't express how sad I'm when I read Andy Green left Openmoko.
 
 I do not know why he left (and it is not my business anyway), but
 I know since Andy was at Openmoko the kernel side began
 to form shape, and got things work. (suspend? anyone?)
 
 I know that every people is replacable at a company, but show
 me at least two people who made as much commit/day (and code quality)
 what Andy did.
 You cant, because there is no black magic here, no marketing
 mantra, it is all public and we can see who commits what into the git tree.
 
 So you just let go the single most valuable people at kernel side.
 Nice try.
 
 I do not know who is responsible for this desicion but I hope they are
 not the same design team who had fired Rasterman.
 Oh, and Harald Welte had left Openmoko too, but we never knew the exact 
 details.
 
 Who left?
 At the hardware side: Werner and Joerg
 at the software side: Mirko and hmm, nobody?
 
 Im counting... How long will they stand?
 
 If I had enough money I would just hire those people and form a new company 
 and
 outsource the fabrication to a chinese company
 (that's exactly what everyone does including apple) and forget about Openmoko
 (the name was a bad choice anyway ;)
 
 I know this letter a bit harsh, but it is intented to address to whom
 is concerned:
 Get your head out of your @ss, sit down and think about a bit.
 You must honor those people who gets the job done!
 
 The best would be just hire back those valueable people, and work out how
 they want to work. Even if they want to form a new (software) company, to
 make sure this situation will never happen again.
 
 I always wanted to buy the next model of openmoko, but I know exactly,
 if it has
 bugs (and surely it will), never or really slowly will be fixed
 (as the current(=everyone gets fired) situation shows).
 
 And if it will have hardware bugs, they will be never fixed by
 Openmoko (as the company),
 and I can just hope that some people offer *their free time and
 knowledge* and fix
 the problem UNOFFICIALLY (unless they did not get until fired).
 
 Can you imagine where we were today without Andy and Rasterman?
 I surely can: an unofficial/unsupported qtextended with an unoptimized
 2.6.22 kernel.
 
 All those nice things came from these (fired) people.
 
 I'm afraid of the future.
 
 Best regards,
  Laszlo
 
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Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left

2009-03-24 Thread arne anka
 I love these threads where we talk about company things, like the recent
  official buzz fix thread, or the secret UI design team IRC
 conversation, and there is NEVER any response from OpenMoko.

 I wonder if they see the community mailinglist as COMMUNITY ONLY, i.e.
 no employees allowed? :)

well, there are employees  available at community (judging from @openmoko  
addresses) -- but this constant ... brain drain is nothing that makes me  
happy.
at least the community update should have mentioned that.

atm om rather looks like a black box with only now and then some glint  
indicating activity inside and an information flow which seems rather like  
leaking.

after all, om's business is centered around open and based on a strong  
community, if the people being more or less om's face to the community  
leave one after one ... it's not really reassuring.

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Re: Multitouch on FR ... imho should be possible to mimic

2009-03-24 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
This has been discussed multiple times since last ~15months.
The basic assumption a middle-point when touching with 2 fingers might be 
anyway exactly in the middle is incorrect. It depends on pressure of each 
touchpoint.
There have been many different opinions about feasibility of this approach, I 
for one think it won't work.

cheers
jOERG

Am Do  19. März 2009 schrieb Yaroslav Halchenko:
 Hi All,
 
 I've been cherishing the idea for a while but got no spare time to even
 code a proof of concept. so I decided to share it with you so someone
 could do that for the common advantage ;)
 
 Indeed we can't register both touches -- as a result hardware returns
 midpoint. BUT what if
 
  you touch screen with two fingers (at some inter-finger distance like
  half of screen width) not at the same time but within
 lets say 100-200ms. Ie you click with one finger just slightly before
 the other one.
 
  then driver reports 2 coordinates where there is a significant
  immediate jump from first coordinate to the midpoint between the two,
  which would be as much as 1/2 of distance between the fingers.
 
  such behavior would signal that 2 fingers are on the screen!
 
  then if you move 2nd finger somewhere, midpoint would move and that
  movement can be taken as a multitouch gesture, ie  if you are expanding
  2nd finger away from first one -- it is like 'zoom-out' or increase of
  smth. analogously, by comparing to the first coordinate (of 1st finger)
  rotations / horizontal zoomin/ vertical zooming etc could be derived
  
  multitouch gesture mode would stop when fingers leave the screen or
  there is once again a singificant jump from prev coordinate (like you
  raise one finger up prior to the other one)
 
 alternative mode can be that after 'two finger' non-synchroneous touch
 which switches to multitouch mode you drive your gesture with only
 second finger (ie raise the first one off the screen) -- that would
 allow for better control over the gesture since no averaging of
 coordinates between two points would happen. And again, multitouch mode
 is left whenever finger is raised of the screen.
 
 if someone is to implement/test such approach, qwo might be a nice code
 base to start from... alternatively I guess tslib for those with
 debian+fbdev xserver.
 
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Re: Multitouch on FR ... imho should be possible to mimic

2009-03-24 Thread The Digital Pioneer
It's tough to say until someone tries it. I don't have the GUI expertise to
do anything of the sort, but I'd love to see someone try it.
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Re: Multitouch on FR ... imho should be possible to mimic

2009-03-24 Thread Rafael Ignacio Zurita

--- On Tue, 3/24/09, Joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org wrote:
 This has been discussed multiple times since last ~15months.
 The basic assumption a middle-point when
 touching with 2 fingers might be 
 anyway exactly in the middle is incorrect. It depends on
 pressure of each 
 touchpoint.
 There have been many different opinions about feasibility
 of this approach, I 
 for one think it won't work.


--- On Tue, 3/24/09, The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com wrote:
 It's tough to say until someone tries it. I don't
 have the GUI expertise to
 do anything of the sort, but I'd love to see someone
 try it.

I have seen this thread long as well. I am not sure what you are trying
to do because I have not read all the mails, but for simple tasks
the middle-point when touching with two fingers works... you need 
to use your imagination when developing with multi touch in your minds.

For Linball I simply use the middle-point when touching with two 
fingers to be able to use both flippers to try to do trapping, and
that works fine.

So just use the middle for multi touch, write code to test and 
you will realize out how to use multi touch for your purposes 
with this behavior.

If you were talking in another idea completely different, my apologies
for this OT :)

Regards,
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Re: Is SIM Toolkit possible to support on the freerunner?

2009-03-24 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Di  24. März 2009 schrieb Michael 'Mickey' Lauer:
 Technically, SIM toolkit support is possible with the Calypso.
 
 I have commented previously about this, so please look my older posts
 up; In a nutshell, STK is a heavy cross-layer spec, so adding it would
 need quit some thought.
 
 FSO will not work on it, but appreciate patches.
 

My vote: don't implement STK, or at least disable it by default.
I don't like my SIM to do any program execution
/j


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Re: Flashing error?

2009-03-24 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 24 March 2009, xiangfu wrote:
 On Mar 22, 2009, at 5:32 AM, Brigzzy Ory'Hara wrote:
  I'm not flashing it to the SD card, I'm using the onboard flash.
  But now that you mention it, in an attempt to troubleshoot an
  unrelated problem, I did delete both the partitions on the SD card.
  Could this be causing my problem?

 For install the Android to Freerunner
 you must format you sd card to two partition.
 the first one is fat and second is ext.
 Android needs those two partition.

Just to clarify: you can have more than 2 partitions, but Android will use the 
first two, and they need to be vfat on the first, and ext3 on the second. You 
can do what you like with the other partitions.

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Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left

2009-03-24 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Di  24. März 2009 schrieb Laszlo KREKACS:
 Who left?
 At the hardware side: Werner and Joerg
I'm no longer busy for OM on a regular monthly plan. OM is free to contract me 
for particular tasks, but for now that doesn't seem to happen in the near 
future.

cheers
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[Debian] Usable alarm clock/timer app?

2009-03-24 Thread Marcel
Hey,

I have found ffalarms on opkg.org (iirc), but that requires atd which is 
installed on my local Debian Sid machine, but I cannot find it in the Debian 
repos to install it on the Neo.
So is there a (finger-usable?) alarm clock application somewhere? I know there 
will be tons of them on ftp.*.debian.org, but the one I found (alarm-clock) 
relies on systray which is not what I want...
I'd prefer something running as daemon and producing a wakeup interrupt + 
doing something fancy. Does such an app exist yet? :D

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Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left

2009-03-24 Thread Gothnet




You should have stopped here IMHO. It really is none of our 
(community's) business, and it would be a lot more productive to just 
focus on the question of where do we go from here?


Hey, something being none of our business has never stopped a good rant before!

Personally I'm beginning to feel like the only hope for getting a decent phone 
out of the FR is the independent work going on around android.

Actually, beginning is a lie.

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Re: Is SIM Toolkit possible to support on the freerunner?

2009-03-24 Thread Mike Crash



My vote: don't implement STK, or at least disable it by default.
I don't like my SIM to do any program execution
/j



My vote: implement it, banking is part of mobile communication like calls and 
sms with the same relevance, for me it is the one and only thing, that make me 
not use neo as phone but PDA only
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Re: [Debian] Usable alarm clock/timer app?

2009-03-24 Thread The Digital Pioneer
Yeah, I'd love to see one for SHR-Unstable too, as the default alarm clock
app went all wacky on me and tried to kill my SHR.
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[OT] Re: [Debian] Usable alarm clock/timer app?

2009-03-24 Thread Marcel
Am Tuesday 24 March 2009 20:03:51 schrieb The Digital Pioneer:
 Yeah, I'd love to see one for SHR-Unstable too, as the default alarm clock
 app went all wacky on me and tried to kill my SHR.

Ya, that's why we desperately need sandboxing, such apps will one day conquer 
the internet and rule us! :D

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shr- avoid suspend and dim screen

2009-03-24 Thread Fernando Martins
Hi,

I would like to avoid suspend while using GPS (tangoGPS) but at the same 
time allow the screen t switch off.

I found on the wiki a page about ompower 
(http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Ompower) but the first command, to get a 
list of the available resources

dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.openmoko.Power / 
org.openmoko.Power.Core.ListResources

returns an error:

Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: the name 
org.openmoko.Power was not provide by any .service files

I suppose to avoid suspension and switch off the screen are quite common 
needs. How are people doing it?

Fernando


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Re: shr- avoid suspend and dim screen

2009-03-24 Thread The Digital Pioneer
I'm using SHR Unstable, and I never have it suspend automatically just for
reasons like this. It still turns off the screen after a while though. What
I would like to see is the disabling of screen dimming while (for instance)
a game such as MokoMaze is running, which has no screen touching. It's a
huge pain when you're about to win, and the screen blacks out and you die.
Hahah
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Re: shr- avoid suspend and dim screen

2009-03-24 Thread Fernando Martins
Ah! I forgot to tell: I'm using shr unstable from January and the 
settings UI doesn't work, , so I was looking for a command line 
instruction to suspend on/off.

Unfortunately, suspend off is not sufficient since the battey gets 
drained too fast, in a couple hours while using GPS. I don't know how 
much power the GPS and CPU is being used, but I'm sure switching off the 
screen would help.

Fernando

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Re: shr- avoid suspend and dim screen

2009-03-24 Thread The Digital Pioneer
Can you not opkg update  opkg upgrade?
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Re: Linball game 0.2 version

2009-03-24 Thread Will Siddall
I know it's been a while since anyone last wrote, but I just thought I
would try it on SHR-testing (20080303).
When it starts up, it rotates the screen, flashes a couple of times
then returns to the window.  The bash script is doing it's job, but
the exectuble is returning with a:
Warning: Audio could not be setup for 22050 Hz 16-bit stereo
Reason:

There's no reason for running the application.  Would you be able to
debug this.  I'd really like to check this out.  I would try it
myself, but I am using my phone for daily use now so I want to stay
away from it right now.

Thanks

On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Yaroslav Halchenko
site-openmoko@onerussian.com wrote:
 just a quick trick for users of such a good client as mutt:

  you have ability to break 'hi-jacked' thread into a separate one
  by using shortcut '#' which corresponds to function 'break-thread' iirc

 On Wed, 11 Feb 2009, Vincent MEURISSE wrote:

 Please don't use the Reply button to create a new thread. Good mail client 
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 fucked with that.
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Re: Linball game 0.2 version

2009-03-24 Thread Rafael Ignacio Zurita

Hello,

--- On Tue, 3/24/09, Will Siddall will.sidd...@gmail.com wrote:
 I know it's been a while since anyone last wrote, but I just thought I
 would try it on SHR-testing (20080303).
 When it starts up, it rotates the screen, flashes a couple of times
 then returns to the window.  The bash script is doing
 it's job, but the exectuble is returning with a:
 Warning: Audio could not be setup for 22050 Hz 16-bit
 stereo Reason:
 
 There's no reason for running the application.  Would you be able to
 debug this.  I'd really like to check this out.  I would try it
 myself, but I am using my phone for daily use now so I want to stay
 away from it right now.

  some user reported a similar problem.
You need to have the oss-alsa modules loaded.

Try with:
modprobe snd_pcm_oss
modprobe snd_mixer_oss

cd /usr/share/linball-openmoko
export DISPLAY=:0
/usr/bin/linball

Regards,
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Re: Data call (aka CSD) with QtExtended

2009-03-24 Thread Ed Kapitein
Hi Tuan,

I was able to make a datacall to a landline modem :-)

So you can use your freerunner to dial in to an ISP if you like.

i wil paste the proof of my success below.
Now i just need to find a way to make it less expensive...

Kind regards,
Ed


MODEM=$(dbus-send --system --print-reply --type=method_call
--dest=org.pyneo.muxer /org/pyneo/Muxer
org.freesmartphone.GSM.MUX.AllocChannel string:$identvar | grep string |
awk -F '' '{ print $2 }')

pppd nodetach debug call inbel ${MODEM}

timeout set to 25 seconds
send (ATE0^M)
abort on (BUSY)
abort on (DELAYED)
abort on (NO ANSWER)
abort on (NO DIALTONE)
abort on (VOICE)
abort on (ERROR)
abort on (RINGING)
expect (OK)
^M
OK
 -- got it

send (AT+CBST=0,0,1^M)
expect (OK)
^M
^M
OK
 -- got it

send (AT+CR=1^M)
expect (OK)
^M
^M
OK
 -- got it

send (atdt 1234567890^M)
expect (CONNECT)
^M
^M
+CR: REL ASYNC^M
^M
CONNECT
 -- got it

send (^M)
expect (Login)
^M
^M
Login
 -- got it

send (isp_user_n...@your.isp.dom^m)
expect (Password)
: isp_user_n...@your.isp.dom^m
Password
 -- got it

send (your_isp_passwd^M)
expect (L2TP)
: ^M
^M^M
L2TP
 -- got it

send (/n/d^M)
Serial connection established.
using channel 11
Using interface ppp0
Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/pts/4
rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x0]
sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0x34d2bbd3 pcomp accomp]
sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x0]
rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0xa auth pap magic 0x148b1bd
pcomp accomp mrru 1524 endpoint
[local:61.72.31.2e.6e.69.6b.2d.61.73.64]  17 04 59 3d]
sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x1 mrru 1524  17 04 59 3d]
rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0x34d2bbd3 pcomp accomp]
rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x2 asyncmap 0xa auth pap magic 0x148b1bd
pcomp accomp endpoint [local:61.72.31.2e.6e.69.6b.2d.61.73.64]]
sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x2 asyncmap 0xa auth pap magic 0x148b1bd
pcomp accomp endpoint [local:61.72.31.2e.6e.69.6b.2d.61.73.64]]
sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 magic=0x34d2bbd3]
sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x1 user=isp_user_n...@your.isp.dom
password=hidden]
rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 magic=0x148b1bd]
rcvd [PAP AuthAck id=0x1 ]
PAP authentication succeeded
sent [CCP ConfReq id=0x1 mppe -H -M -S -L -D -C deflate 15
deflate(old#) 15 bsd v1 15]
sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 compress VJ 0f 01 addr 0.0.0.0 ms-dns1
0.0.0.0 ms-dns3 0.0.0.0]
rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 addr 213.53.28.122]
sent [IPCP ConfAck id=0x1 addr 213.53.28.122]
rcvd [LCP EchoReq id=0x1 magic=0x148b1bd c0 23 05 06]
sent [LCP EchoRep id=0x1 magic=0x34d2bbd3 00 00 00 00]
rcvd [LCP ProtRej id=0x3 80 fd 01 01 00 15 12 06 00 00 00 00 1a 04 78 00
18 04 78 00 15 03 2f]
rcvd [IPCP ConfRej id=0x1 compress VJ 0f 01]
sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x2 addr 0.0.0.0 ms-dns1 0.0.0.0 ms-dns3
0.0.0.0]
rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x2 addr 213.53.28.122]
sent [IPCP ConfAck id=0x2 addr 213.53.28.122]
rcvd [IPCP ConfNak id=0x2 addr 217.149.216.138 ms-dns1 217.149.196.6
ms-dns3 217.149.192.6]
sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x3 addr 217.149.216.138 ms-dns1 217.149.196.6
ms-dns3 217.149.192.6]
rcvd [IPCP ConfAck id=0x3 addr 217.149.216.138 ms-dns1 217.149.196.6
ms-dns3 217.149.192.6]
replacing old default route to usb0 [192.168.0.200]
local  IP address 217.149.216.138
remote IP address 213.53.28.122
primary   DNS address 217.149.196.6
secondary DNS address 217.149.192.6
Script /etc/ppp/ip-up started (pid 1992)
Script /etc/ppp/ip-up finished (pid 1992), status = 0x0
Terminating on signal 2
Connect time 0.6 minutes.
Sent 874 bytes, received 1113 bytes.
restoring old default route to usb0 [192.168.0.200]
Script /etc/ppp/ip-down started (pid 2005)
sent [LCP TermReq id=0x2 User request]
Script /etc/ppp/ip-down finished (pid 2005), status = 0x0
rcvd [LCP TermAck id=0x2]
Connection terminated.



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Re: shr- avoid suspend and dim screen

2009-03-24 Thread Fernando Martins
The Digital Pioneer wrote:
 Can you not opkg update  opkg upgrade?
Actually I don't know what exactly that would lead to: wold I get SHR 
testing or the current SHR unstable?

OTH, my current setup works (mostly) well and recently there were a 
bunch of people reporting problems with getting a GPS fix, and I don't 
want to go through that process again myself.

I would expect to exist some command line instructions (like dbus-send) 
to control suspend and screen on/off.

Fernando

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Re: shr- avoid suspend and dim screen

2009-03-24 Thread The Digital Pioneer
That will just get you latest unstable. I do it frequently, and it all works
about as well as can be expected, including GPS.
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Simple touching test (maybe someday multitouch test)

2009-03-24 Thread Aapo Rantalainen
Hi, I made first simple application to test touchscreen. It doesn't
give me much hope about multitouching, but maybe we can discuss better
if we have something.

http://cc.oulu.fi/~rantalai/freerunner/touching/


It is gtk program which prints
1) mouse location
2) mouse button press (and its location)
3) mouse button release (and its location)

Compiling for Moko:
 . /usr/local/openmoko/arm/environment-setup
make

Compiling for Computer:
comment out 'CC = arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc'  on Makefile
make

I made these test with OM2008.12. If you have time check what your
distribution says.

Usage:
ssh -X r...@moko
Case A)  [ using computers screen and mouse ]
./touching_test

Move mousepointer to window, press button down, move pointer, release button.
Terminal output:
Pointer moving at (17, 11)
Button pressed at (17, 11)
Pointer moving at (18, 11)
Pointer moving at (19, 11)
Pointer moving at (20, 11)
Pointer moving at (29, 11)
Pointer moving at (43, 11)
Pointer moving at (51, 11)
Pointer moving at (69, 11)
Pointer moving at (89, 11)
Pointer moving at (99, 13)
Pointer moving at (109, 13)
Button released at (113, 13)
Pointer moving at (112, 13)
Pointer moving at (112, 12)


Case B) [ using touchscreen ]
DISPLAY=:0 ./touching_test
Put stylus somewhere, move it, release it.
Terminal output:
Pointer moving at (113, 101)
Button pressed at (113, 101)
Pointer moving at (112, 102)
Button released at (436, 103)

Case C) [ touchscreen with two stylus]
DISPLAY=:0 ./touching_test
Put 1st stylus somewhere in top left (and do not release it)
Terminal output
Pointer moving at (37, 20)
Button pressed at (37, 20)
Pointer moving at (42, 26)

  (Start all subcases 1st stylus is in top left)
  Subcase 1)
  Put 2nd stylus somewhere in bottom right
  Terminal output
  NOTHING

  Subcase 2)
  Put 2nd stylus anywhere and move it, release it, put it again, move etc.
  Terminal output
  NOTHING

  Subcase 3)
  Put 2nd stylus somewhere in bottom right.
  Release 1st stylus
  Terminal output
  NOTHING
   Release 2nd stylus
  Terminal output
   Button released at (454, 438)

   Subcase 4)
   Put 2nd stylus somewhere in bottom right
   Release both in ~sametime
   Terminal output
Button released at (216, 363)  midpoint




Case B was something which breaks my plans how to implement
multitouch. (It doesn't give any messages when dragged)
btw: If  this doesn't work with GTK, can it work some other way? (Xlib, Qt)

-Aapo Rantalainen

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Re: shr- avoid suspend and dim screen

2009-03-24 Thread Fernando Martins
The Digital Pioneer wrote:
 That will just get you latest unstable. I do it frequently, and it all 
 works about as well as can be expected, including GPS.
Ok, great! Thanks,
Fernando

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Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left

2009-03-24 Thread Steve Mosher
Thanks Gunnar,

   There is one thing we tend to be very tight lipped about.  HR issues.
That is its very rare that you will find any employee commenting on why
a particular individual is not with the company anymore. Some people are 
let go for performance. Some are let go due to cost cutting. Some choose
voluntary separation. Some request to be let go. This is highly personel
data, so we try to avoid at all costs talking about these issues.

As to the other issues, there are some cases were the situation is so 
fluid and still in process that commenting really isnt possible. I'll 
relook at the official buzz fix thread and see if I can add anything 
helpful.


Gunnar Aastrand Grimnes wrote:
 I love these threads where we talk about company things, like the recent
  official buzz fix thread, or the secret UI design team IRC
 conversation, and there is NEVER any response from OpenMoko.
 
 I wonder if they see the community mailinglist as COMMUNITY ONLY, i.e.
 no employees allowed? :)
 
 Cheers,
 
 - Gunnar
 
 Laszlo KREKACS wrote:
 Dear List,


 I can't express how sad I'm when I read Andy Green left Openmoko.

 I do not know why he left (and it is not my business anyway), but
 I know since Andy was at Openmoko the kernel side began
 to form shape, and got things work. (suspend? anyone?)

 I know that every people is replacable at a company, but show
 me at least two people who made as much commit/day (and code quality)
 what Andy did.
 You cant, because there is no black magic here, no marketing
 mantra, it is all public and we can see who commits what into the git tree.

 So you just let go the single most valuable people at kernel side.
 Nice try.

 I do not know who is responsible for this desicion but I hope they are
 not the same design team who had fired Rasterman.
 Oh, and Harald Welte had left Openmoko too, but we never knew the exact 
 details.

 Who left?
 At the hardware side: Werner and Joerg
 at the software side: Mirko and hmm, nobody?

 Im counting... How long will they stand?

 If I had enough money I would just hire those people and form a new company 
 and
 outsource the fabrication to a chinese company
 (that's exactly what everyone does including apple) and forget about Openmoko
 (the name was a bad choice anyway ;)

 I know this letter a bit harsh, but it is intented to address to whom
 is concerned:
 Get your head out of your @ss, sit down and think about a bit.
 You must honor those people who gets the job done!

 The best would be just hire back those valueable people, and work out how
 they want to work. Even if they want to form a new (software) company, to
 make sure this situation will never happen again.

 I always wanted to buy the next model of openmoko, but I know exactly,
 if it has
 bugs (and surely it will), never or really slowly will be fixed
 (as the current(=everyone gets fired) situation shows).

 And if it will have hardware bugs, they will be never fixed by
 Openmoko (as the company),
 and I can just hope that some people offer *their free time and
 knowledge* and fix
 the problem UNOFFICIALLY (unless they did not get until fired).

 Can you imagine where we were today without Andy and Rasterman?
 I surely can: an unofficial/unsupported qtextended with an unoptimized
 2.6.22 kernel.

 All those nice things came from these (fired) people.

 I'm afraid of the future.

 Best regards,
  Laszlo

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Re: question about kernel image build

2009-03-24 Thread mx li
xiangfu:
i only burn the kernel image build myself, and the rootfs i used is
Om2008.12-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2, i didn't change it.






2009/3/24 xiangfu xian...@openmoko.org


 On Mar 24, 2009, at 10:57 AM, mx li wrote:

  i got a freerunner, first i download the two image:
  Om2008.12-om-gta02.uImage.bin
  Om2008.12-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2
  use the dfu tools upgrade success.
 
  but i want to build the kernel image myself, so i do like this:
  1.
  install git tools: apt-get install git
  2.
  git clone git://git.openmoko.org/git/kernel.git linux-2.6
  3.
  cd linux-2.6
  git checkout origin/andy-tracking
  4.
  cp arch/arm/configs/gta02-moredrivers-defconfig .config
  5.
  download openmoko-i686-20080916-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2
  from
  http://downloads.openmoko.org/developer/toolchains/
  6.
  cd /
  sudo tar jxf /openmoko-i686-20080916-arm-linux-gnueabi-
  toolchain.tar.bz2
  7.
  cd linux-2.6
  mkdir GTA02
  cp arch/arm/configs/gta02-moredrivers-defconfig ./GTA02/.config
  8.
  vi /usr/local/openmoko/arm/setup-env
  modify line with : export LDFLAGS=-L${OMTOOL_DIR}/arm/arm-angstrom-
  linux-gnueabi/lib -rpath-link ${OMTOOL_DIR}/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-
  gnueabi/lib -O1
  9.
  .   /usr/local/openmoko/arm/setup-env
  10.
  cd linux-2.6/
  ./build GTA02 dummy
 
  after above, i use the dfu tools burn the uImage-GTA02.bin which
  under GTA02 directory to freerunner, but it
  stop at openmoko srceen, can't boot the system up,
 you should take a picture about the screen . :-)

 what is your rootfs??

 
  why?
 
 
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Re: paroli updates

2009-03-24 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Mirko Lindner wrote:
 I am trying to get elementary in and etk out. That requires a lot of 
 refactoring in the different apps.

Oh... Cool! This is what I really wanted to read.
I think that elementary is and must be the choice! ;)

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linphone 3.1.0

2009-03-24 Thread Al Johnson
Here's a preliminary bitbake recipe for the latest linphone release. Binaries 
for fso-milestone5 are in:
http://openmoko.truebox.co.uk/repos/mazikeen/fso-milestone5/ipk/armv4t/

Problems:
* I haven't got it to do sound yet - it seems unhappy with the alsa device 
capabilities. I don't know if this is a configuration issue or a fundamental 
problem.
* The GUI will segfault if you try to open the Preferences. It's an upstream 
problem that happens if you don't enable video support, and was fixed in svn 
earlier today. 
* the GUI isn't finger-friendly.

linphone provides the GUI, and linphonec the CLI. 
DESCRIPTION = SIP-based IP phone (console edition)
HOMEPAGE = http://www.linphone.org/?lang=us;
SECTION = x11/utils
LICENSE = GPLv2

DEPENDS = intltool libosip2 speex libogg alsa-lib readline
DEPENDS_${PN} = liblinphone
DEPENDS_${PN}c = liblinphone readline
DEPENDS_liblinphone = libmediastreamer libortp libosip2 libexosip2
DEPENDS_libmediastreamer = speex libogg alsa-lib libortp

RDEPENDS_${PN} = liblinphone
RDEPENDS_${PN}c = liblinphone readline
RDEPENDS_liblinphone = libmediastreamer libortp libosip2 libexosip2
RDEPENDS_libmediastreamer = speex libogg libasound libortp

PROVIDES += linphone linphonec liblinphone

PR = r1

SRC_URI = 
http://download.savannah.nongnu.org/releases/linphone/3.1.x/sources/linphone-${PV}.tar.gz;

S = ${WORKDIR}/linphone-${PV}

inherit autotools pkgconfig

export PKG_CONFIG=${STAGING_BINDIR_NATIVE}/pkg-config

EXTRA_OECONF = --disable-gtk-doc \
--without-ffmpeg --disable-video --without-sdl \
--enable-alsa \
--with-osip=${STAGING_DIR_HOST}${layout_exec_prefix} \
--with-readline=${STAGING_DIR_HOST}${layout_exec_prefix} \
--with-speex=${STAGING_DIR_HOST}${layout_exec_prefix} \
--disable-truespeech --disable-manual \
--enable-strict=no \


PARALLEL_MAKE = 

do_stage () {
install -d ${STAGING_DATADIR}/aclocal
oe_libinstall -a -so liblinphone ${STAGING_LIBDIR}
install -d ${STAGING_INCDIR}/linphone
install -m 0644 ${S}/coreapi/linphonecore.h ${STAGING_INCDIR}/linphone
install -m 0644 ${S}/coreapi/lpconfig.h ${STAGING_INCDIR}/linphone
oe_libinstall -a -so libmediastreamer ${STAGING_LIBDIR}
install -d ${STAGING_INCDIR}/mediastreamer2
install -m 0644 ${S}/mediastreamer2/include/mediastreamer2/*.h 
${STAGING_INCDIR}/mediastreamer2
install -d ${STAGING_INCDIR}/ortp
oe_libinstall -a -so libortp ${STAGING_LIBDIR}/
install -m 0644 ${S}/oRTP/include/ortp/*.h ${STAGING_INCDIR}/ortp/
autotools_stage_all
}

PACKAGES += linphonec linphone-rings liblinphone libmediastreamer libortp

FILES_${PN} = ${bindir}/linphone ${bindir}/linphone-3 ${datadir}/pixmaps 
${datadir}/applications ${datadir}/gnome/apps ${datadir}/linphone
FILES_${PN}c = ${bindir}/linphonec ${bindir}/linphonecsh ${bindir}/sipomatic 
${datadir}/sounds/linphone/ringback.wav
FILES_${PN}-rings = ${datadir}/sounds/linphone/rings
FILES_liblinphone = ${libdir}/liblinphone.so.*
#FILES_libquickstream = ${libdir}/libquickstream.so.*
FILES_libmediastreamer = ${libdir}/libmediastreamer.so.*
FILES_libortp = ${libdir}/libortp.so.*
FILES_${PN}-dev += ${libdir}/*.a ${libdir}/*.la ${libdir}/pkgconfig 
${includedir}

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Google Summer of Code

2009-03-24 Thread The Digital Pioneer
Hey, I'm just wondering if there are any cool FR-related projects in GSoC
this year. Anyone know?

-- 
Thanks,

The Digital Pioneer
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Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-03-24 Thread Carl Lobo
 using bt means: enable bt, power on headset, connect, pray your partner
 has not hung up annoyed.

:) I think a more efficient way would be to keep the headset connected
to the device and play only when you get the call. My guess is that
this is what other phones do...

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Re: question about kernel image build

2009-03-24 Thread mx li
i see the message: can't open kernel image

i use the toolchain is:
openmoko-i686-20080916-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2

what wrong is it?



2009/3/25 mx li lz5...@gmail.com

 xiangfu:
 i only burn the kernel image build myself, and the rootfs i used is
 Om2008.12-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2, i didn't change it.






 2009/3/24 xiangfu xian...@openmoko.org


 On Mar 24, 2009, at 10:57 AM, mx li wrote:

  i got a freerunner, first i download the two image:
  Om2008.12-om-gta02.uImage.bin
  Om2008.12-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2
  use the dfu tools upgrade success.
 
  but i want to build the kernel image myself, so i do like this:
  1.
  install git tools: apt-get install git
  2.
  git clone git://git.openmoko.org/git/kernel.git linux-2.6
  3.
  cd linux-2.6
  git checkout origin/andy-tracking
  4.
  cp arch/arm/configs/gta02-moredrivers-defconfig .config
  5.
  download openmoko-i686-20080916-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2
  from
  http://downloads.openmoko.org/developer/toolchains/
  6.
  cd /
  sudo tar jxf /openmoko-i686-20080916-arm-linux-gnueabi-
  toolchain.tar.bz2
  7.
  cd linux-2.6
  mkdir GTA02
  cp arch/arm/configs/gta02-moredrivers-defconfig ./GTA02/.config
  8.
  vi /usr/local/openmoko/arm/setup-env
  modify line with : export LDFLAGS=-L${OMTOOL_DIR}/arm/arm-angstrom-
  linux-gnueabi/lib -rpath-link ${OMTOOL_DIR}/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-
  gnueabi/lib -O1
  9.
  .   /usr/local/openmoko/arm/setup-env
  10.
  cd linux-2.6/
  ./build GTA02 dummy
 
  after above, i use the dfu tools burn the uImage-GTA02.bin which
  under GTA02 directory to freerunner, but it
  stop at openmoko srceen, can't boot the system up,
 you should take a picture about the screen . :-)

 what is your rootfs??

 
  why?
 
 
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Re: [Debian] Usable alarm clock/timer app?

2009-03-24 Thread W.Kenworthy
And mine on shr-testing annoyed the family so much THEY wanted to kill
SHR, the FR and me in whatever order it took to shut it up in the early
hours of the morning ...

:)

BillK

On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 14:03 -0500, The Digital Pioneer wrote:
 Yeah, I'd love to see one for SHR-Unstable too, as the default alarm
 clock app went all wacky on me and tried to kill my SHR.
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Re: shr- avoid suspend and dim screen

2009-03-24 Thread W.Kenworthy
Taken from the replies to a similar post of mine (I think!) some time
back.  Replace the exec call in the desktop file
(/usr/share/applications/tangogps) to this script.

The exports work around where tango cant seem to find its home config

This is my car script - sets up the FR so I can place it in a recess
of the dash in landscape mode.  For walking i dont rotate the screen,
and allow suspend (just comment out the relevant lines).

One day I'll get around to replacing it with a c program using library
calls which will hopefully speed it up - I am using this script to
customise tango, mofi, FBreader etc.

Using shr-testing up to date a few days ago (as I am having problems
building my repo at the moment :)

BillK


r...@om-gta02:~# cat mefiles/tgps
#!/bin/sh

export USER='root'
export HOME='/home/root'
export PWD='/home/root'

cd /home/root

/usr/bin/xrandr -o 1

mdbus -s org.shr.ophonekitd.Usage /org/shr/ophonekitd/Usage 
org.shr.ophonekitd.Usage.RequestResource 'CPU'
mdbus -s org.shr.ophonekitd.Usage /org/shr/ophonekitd/Usage 
org.shr.ophonekitd.Usage.RequestResource 'Display'

/usr/bin/tangogps

mdbus -s org.shr.ophonekitd.Usage /org/shr/ophonekitd/Usage 
org.shr.ophonekitd.Usage.ReleaseResource 'CPU'
mdbus -s org.shr.ophonekitd.Usage /org/shr/ophonekitd/Usage 
org.shr.ophonekitd.Usage.ReleaseResource 'Display'

/usr/bin/xrandr -o 0

r...@om-gta02:~# 


On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 20:58 +0100, Fernando Martins wrote:
 Ah! I forgot to tell: I'm using shr unstable from January and the 
 settings UI doesn't work, , so I was looking for a command line 
 instruction to suspend on/off.
 
 Unfortunately, suspend off is not sufficient since the battey gets 
 drained too fast, in a couple hours while using GPS. I don't know how 
 much power the GPS and CPU is being used, but I'm sure switching off the 
 screen would help.
 
 Fernando
 
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Re: Openmoko meeting Stuttgart (Wed 25.03.2009)

2009-03-24 Thread Bernhard Höll
Hi, that was a little short notice, but I will do my best to be there at
19:00.

See you there..

Bernhard


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