Re: Data call (aka CSD) with QtExtended
Hi Ed,
My answers are bellow.
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Ed Kapitein e...@kapitein.org wrote:
Hi Tuan,
Strange that no connection is made to the landline modem.
you see no response, but dou you see the at commands echoed back?
When I make data calls, I see AT cmd echo back with OK -- modem acepts
cmd.
if not use ate1 to see the responses.
I always use ATE1 at fisrt.
you can restart /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd with the -v option and use logread
to see what is send and received from the modem.
Woop, I never see this process via ps. I use qtextend and before doing
things with socat I always shutdown qtextend so I can connect to
/dev/ttySA0. Do I need this before making data calls? Actually I can make
voice calls by ATs without this.
If you use the motorola to call your FR, can you pick up the call with
the ATA command?
Can, after seeing RING, I use ATH to accept.
Do you see a ring message?
Good luck !
Ed
On Thu, 2009-03-26 at 17:38 +0700, Tuan TRINH wrote:
Hi Ed,
Just try to initiate data call but no success.
There is a strange symptom that is: If I use the same SIM but on other
mobile (Motorora Z8) I can hear the far end land-line modem sound
respone but if I use FR to call the same modem: (1) via AT commands I
see no response, both sound and response modem characters so can not
use expect(CONNECT) with ppp (2) via GUI, it drop the call.
My FR can do voice call normally.
Do you have any way to debug the status of data call while using AT
commands? I just know +CEER but it does not give much info.
Cordially,
Tuan
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 3:33 AM, Ed Kapitein e...@kapitein.org wrote:
Hi Tuan,
I was able to make a datacall to a landline modem :-)
So you can use your freerunner to dial in to an ISP if you
like.
i wil paste the proof of my success below.
Now i just need to find a way to make it less expensive...
Kind regards,
Ed
MODEM=$(dbus-send --system --print-reply --type=method_call
--dest=org.pyneo.muxer /org/pyneo/Muxer
org.freesmartphone.GSM.MUX.AllocChannel string:$identvar |
grep string |
awk -F '' '{ print $2 }')
pppd nodetach debug call inbel ${MODEM}
SNIP
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Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 03:50, Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com wrote: We are just in the process of working out those details. I've shipped the parts to fix phones to a few individuals and disty who have asked. Have here, at Brazil, anyone? Between 180 millions of people, and a huge country, we have around 20 FRs (and everyone thinks like we are not part of the America). Please, sell to us a board with the fix and *maybe* an upgrade! []s Lewis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FatFingerShell vt with fullscreen keyboard
Hello people, it is a new virtual terminal for Openmoko, with a complete fullscreen keyboard and sound. You can set the colors and the transparency, set new keyboard layouts (hard yet) and replace the sounds. This terminal should be useful for bash/vi and other common console tools. The fullscreen keyboard should be comfortable for fat fingers. Check the videos to know the idea : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qR4FETGzkA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f67HKAkx61w How to test: - download the package: http://fz.hobby-site.org/om/fatfingershell/fatfingershell_0.1.tar.gz - install libsdl, libsdl_mixer, libsdl_ttf packages - add export TERM=vt100 into ~/.bashrc - you need installed bash tar xvzf fatfingershell_0.1.tar.gz cd fatfingershell/ ./fatfingershell.sh If you have problems check fatfingershell.sh script to realize out how to run this version manually. The package is an alpha version to check how well the ideas work. There are bugs, and lot of problems surely. The package and the source code have a README file with known problems, TODO list and other instructions. Other files: README: http://fz.hobby-site.org/om/fatfingershell/README.txt source code: http://fz.hobby-site.org/om/fatfingershell/fatfingershell-src_0.1.tar.gz Feedback, suggestions and ideas are welcome. Saludos!, Rafa -- Rafael Ignacio Zurita Buenos Aires, Argentina ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue
Levy, We are very Keen to do business in Brazil. Maddog and I converse about this weekly on how to do a better job in Brazil. I'll work to get Him and the disty there some parts for upgrades. Levy wrote: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 03:50, Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com wrote: We are just in the process of working out those details. I've shipped the parts to fix phones to a few individuals and disty who have asked. Have here, at Brazil, anyone? Between 180 millions of people, and a huge country, we have around 20 FRs (and everyone thinks like we are not part of the America). Please, sell to us a board with the fix and *maybe* an upgrade! []s Lewis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Data call (aka CSD) with QtExtended
Hi Tuan, I think our distributions differ to much to be of any more help. i am using om2008.12, you could try to run that of an sd card and see if it works that way. Aparently you do have a working data number on your phone, so that is a good thing. The hardware in the FR is capabale of making data calls, so that is a good thing too. Good luck, and let us know your success/failures, we all can learn from it. Kind regards, Ed On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 13:11 +0700, Tuan TRINH wrote: Hi Ed, My answers are bellow. On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Ed Kapitein e...@kapitein.org wrote: Hi Tuan, Strange that no connection is made to the landline modem. you see no response, but dou you see the at commands echoed back? When I make data calls, I see AT cmd echo back with OK -- modem acepts cmd. if not use ate1 to see the responses. I always use ATE1 at fisrt. you can restart /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd with the -v option and use logread to see what is send and received from the modem. Woop, I never see this process via ps. I use qtextend and before doing things with socat I always shutdown qtextend so I can connect to /dev/ttySA0. Do I need this before making data calls? Actually I can make voice calls by ATs without this. If you use the motorola to call your FR, can you pick up the call with the ATA command? Can, after seeing RING, I use ATH to accept. Do you see a ring message? Good luck ! Ed On Thu, 2009-03-26 at 17:38 +0700, Tuan TRINH wrote: Hi Ed, Just try to initiate data call but no success. There is a strange symptom that is: If I use the same SIM but on other mobile (Motorora Z8) I can hear the far end land-line modem sound respone but if I use FR to call the same modem: (1) via AT commands I see no response, both sound and response modem characters so can not use expect(CONNECT) with ppp (2) via GUI, it drop the call. My FR can do voice call normally. Do you have any way to debug the status of data call while using AT commands? I just know +CEER but it does not give much info. Cordially, Tuan SNIP ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FatFingerShell vt with fullscreen keyboard
Hi, On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 04:03:29AM -0300, Rafael Ignacio Zurita wrote: Hello people, it is a new virtual terminal for Openmoko, with a complete fullscreen keyboard and sound. How to test: - download the package: http://fz.hobby-site.org/om/fatfingershell/fatfingershell_0.1.tar.gz - install libsdl, libsdl_mixer, libsdl_ttf packages - add export TERM=vt100 into ~/.bashrc - you need installed bash tar xvzf fatfingershell_0.1.tar.gz cd fatfingershell/ ./fatfingershell.sh If you have problems check fatfingershell.sh script to realize out how to run this version manually. I like shell :-) After following the instructions, I tried: debian-gta02:/usr/local/src/fatfingershell# ./fatfingershell.sh snd_pcm_oss45352 0 snd_mixer_oss 15080 1 snd_pcm_oss snd_pcm75084 3 snd_soc_s3c24xx,snd_soc_core,snd_pcm_oss snd49988 9 snd_soc_neo1973_gta02_wm8753,snd_soc_wm8753,snd_soc_core,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer dark1!=3 ./fatfingershell: invalid option -- 'e' 0-0-73-124-w-w-1 75-1-125-123-q-Q-2 129-0-180-123-w-W-1 [...] 422-381-476-479-.--4 478-381-561-478-b-b-3 563-381-638-479-f-f-4 No se pudo iniciar el modo grafico No video mode large enough for 640x480 debian-gta02:/usr/local/src/fatfingershell# I am running Debian with Xglamo and xfce4. Hmm, xrandr doesn't want to change the display, exits with 0 though. It used to work - will get back to you. Gyelt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shortom 0.3
thanks for great program :) i think its the program i use most on openmoko :) new version seems working fine so far. gruß vale I have released the third version of shortom with some new interesting features. You can download it here: http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/738/shortom_0.3_all.ipk I have uploaded the wiki on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ShortOm and the page on opkg.org. Let me know if you find some problems or anything else. Luca. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/shortom-0.3-tp2538346p2543533.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: question about kernel image build
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 09:57:29AM +0800, mx li wrote: i see the message: can't open kernel image You chose the 'moredrivers' config. That kernel image is huge. U-Boot doesn't yet automatically detect the kernel image size when loading from flash ROM, so you'll need to increase the load size from the default 0x20. Besides, you really should also install the modules corresponding to the kernel you're using. -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: question about kernel image build
thanks, i think you are right. when boot kernel, i saw the info : data size : 2.3M Bad data CRC but how i can increase the load size of u-boot? - Original Message - From: Rask Ingemann Lambertsen r...@sygehus.dk To: community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 6:21 PM Subject: Re: question about kernel image build On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 09:57:29AM +0800, mx li wrote: i see the message: can't open kernel image You chose the 'moredrivers' config. That kernel image is huge. U-Boot doesn't yet automatically detect the kernel image size when loading from flash ROM, so you'll need to increase the load size from the default 0x20. Besides, you really should also install the modules corresponding to the kernel you're using. -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: graphical nethack for freerunner (alpha version released)
http://cc.oulu.fi/~rantalai/freerunner/nethack/ Warnign: Not yet playable! At last I got inspiration to compile graphical Nethack for Freerunner. It is actually gtk2-hack ported to maemo. So it has dependeries on libosso and libhildon, but I got them compiled from OpenEmbedded. Tested with OM2008.12. Nethack-maemo is almost keyboardless. Nokia Internet Tablet has couple of hw-buttons, so this is not yet playable, because Freerunner doesn't have these buttons. And element-layout must be changed, maybe some tuning of icons, font size etc. And there are two sets of graphics, but I got only uglier to work. So let me know if you are interested in play this game someday, or even better if you want help me to get this happen (help on planning is important as help on coding). -Aapo Rantalainen Hi Aapo, You are making me very happy! I'm waiting for xnethack since a long time, I like nethack! Of course I will play/test it...but I'm not a programmer so I can't help you in porting it, I'm sorry. Cheers Giacomo -- /_\ The ASCIIPer comunicare in modo riservato: \_/ Ribbon Campaign gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net \ X Against HTML--recv-keys 20611EAD /_\ Email! -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Data call (aka CSD) with QtExtended
Hi Ed, Thank you. Will try and come back to you later. Cordially, Tuan On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Ed Kapitein e...@kapitein.org wrote: Hi Tuan, I think our distributions differ to much to be of any more help. i am using om2008.12, you could try to run that of an sd card and see if it works that way. Aparently you do have a working data number on your phone, so that is a good thing. The hardware in the FR is capabale of making data calls, so that is a good thing too. Good luck, and let us know your success/failures, we all can learn from it. Kind regards, Ed On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 13:11 +0700, Tuan TRINH wrote: Hi Ed, My answers are bellow. On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Ed Kapitein e...@kapitein.org wrote: Hi Tuan, Strange that no connection is made to the landline modem. you see no response, but dou you see the at commands echoed back? When I make data calls, I see AT cmd echo back with OK -- modem acepts cmd. if not use ate1 to see the responses. I always use ATE1 at fisrt. you can restart /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd with the -v option and use logread to see what is send and received from the modem. Woop, I never see this process via ps. I use qtextend and before doing things with socat I always shutdown qtextend so I can connect to /dev/ttySA0. Do I need this before making data calls? Actually I can make voice calls by ATs without this. If you use the motorola to call your FR, can you pick up the call with the ATA command? Can, after seeing RING, I use ATH to accept. Do you see a ring message? Good luck ! Ed On Thu, 2009-03-26 at 17:38 +0700, Tuan TRINH wrote: Hi Ed, Just try to initiate data call but no success. There is a strange symptom that is: If I use the same SIM but on other mobile (Motorora Z8) I can hear the far end land-line modem sound respone but if I use FR to call the same modem: (1) via AT commands I see no response, both sound and response modem characters so can not use expect(CONNECT) with ppp (2) via GUI, it drop the call. My FR can do voice call normally. Do you have any way to debug the status of data call while using AT commands? I just know +CEER but it does not give much info. Cordially, Tuan SNIP ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: graphical nethack for freerunner (alpha version released)
http://cc.oulu.fi/~rantalai/freerunner/nethack/ Warnign: Not yet playable! You are making me very happy! I'm waiting for xnethack since a long time, I like nethack! I will play/test it...but I'm not a programmer so I can't help you in porting it. Hi Giacomo, Actually, I think you can help me. Take one screenshot and start Gimp. Make decise, is it portrait or landscaped (fullscreen / default statusbar). Cut and paste elements. Use text tool and check different fontsizes. Count number of commands. Maybe do some sorting for commands, which must be always visible, which are in some dropdown menu. (or toggleable toolbar rows?). How menus are used? How small command-icon we can use? btw: Is there way to tune scrollbars width in one program only or it is binded to theme? Because nethack is not for finger, one must use stylus. So we need more space and narrow scrollbars. -Aapo Rantalainen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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hello there.. i've got android beta3. now, i didn't had empty partitions, but i want to mount my data-partition from the sd-card. i didn't found a terminal and i detect no ssh-daemon, so i couldn't connect directly to the phone. had someone a reason here? i just want to edit /etc/fstab greets ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: test result of battery current against display brightness and GPS power mode
Thanks for the tip.
My previous test program is written in C. I write a bash script and test again.
GPS, WIFI, bluetooth, GSM, xserve, fso-frameworkd, python, batget are
disabled/closed.
OS suspending is disabled in SHR settings.
With top command, I watch for a while to make sure no process other than top
and dropbear
using more than 0.1% CPU cycles. Then start the script and unplug USB.
#!/bin/bash
for ((i=0; i120; i++)); do
sleep 30
echo i = $i:
cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/{current_now,capacity,voltage_now}
done
The result is almost same with my previous test, on newly updated SHR:
Within 60 minutes, capacity drops from 100% to 91%, voltage drops from 4.16 V
to 4.06 V,
current increases from 103.5 mA to 104.5 mA,
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 05:21:59AM +0800, Qingyou Meng wrote:
To save power, we set display brightness to 0% by locking screen,
but OS still consumes 95 mA, leaving at most ~10 hours battery life!
You must have done something wrong. I frequently test power comsumption
and I get 54 mA on a fully charged battery, dropping slowly as the battery
discharges[1] and nearly 20 hours battery life.
FWIW, I test with this command on a Debian installation:
sleep 120 cat
/sys/class/power_supply/battery/{status,current_now,voltage_now,capacity}
[1] It's supposed to be the other way around - current increasing as the
battery discharges - but there's a current leak somewhere. It was down to 46
mA not too long ago with a kernel from the andy-tracking branch.
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Re: FatFingerShell vt with fullscreen keyboard
Rafael Ignacio Zurita wrote: it is a new virtual terminal for Openmoko, with a complete fullscreen keyboard and sound. Wow, I love this idea ! Alas, it looks a little slow. (Haven't tried to run it yet, just looked at the videos.) Here's an idea how you could perhaps make it much faster: A long time ago, I discussed with Carsten about what the Glamo could do for us. Predictably, this quickly turned into some rather extensive bashing of this ill-fated chip. On item that came up is the lack of proper support for a feature X11 calls compositing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compositing_window_manager The Glamo hardware has the ability to blend images, but, if I recall our discussion correctly, X11 expects the blending operation to support certain formats which the Glamo doesn't. So the conclusion was that it wouldn't be possible to accelerate full X11 compositing with the Glamo. However, perhaps what the Glamo can do is enough for your full-screen overlay. So you would put the X11 framebuffer in one (off-screen) memory area A, draw the keyboard in an area B, and whenever X11 or keyboard manager have updated their screen content, the Glamo would be told to merge screens A and B into the real frame buffer. This may also make it easy to do things like dynamically changing the respective brightness of the keyboard overlay and the background with the actual content. (*) Now, having said all this, I have to admit that making the Glamo do anything is rather hard, and I've heard that X11 isn't trivial either. But several people have started to work on even more complicated things (DRM, GL, ...), so maybe there's someone who could help making an X server with such functionality. (*) For this, you would have to have a means to turn on the keyboard. This could be done by tapping an area where there's no key or where there's a key that doesn't do anything unpleasant (Shift or so), by just absorbing the first tap if the keyboard is dimmed, or perhaps by distinguishing a light touch of the screen from a tap. Oh, and where are the applications ? :-) When Openmoko first announced the Linux-based GTA01, I read a lot of jokes about the kind of user interface a Linux phone would have. Usually they were of the kind making a phone call is easy and intuitive: # phone dial -d /dev/ttySAC0 --number=+123456789 --voice But I wonder if something that would make a call with simply # call foobar wouldn't be about as convenient to use as a GUI. Hang up with ^C, background and do something else with ^Z, etc. :-) - Werner ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FatFingerShell vt with fullscreen keyboard
Hey, this is great! Best FR terminal I've seen. I do have a question though... In the output, it says ./fatfingershell: can't access font 8x13, trying fixed just before creating its GUI. That doesn't seem to be a problem, but I don't like rogue error messages, so where can I get that font? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FatFingerShell vt with fullscreen keyboard
Rafa, This looks great, I'm looking forward to trying it out. Cheers ezuall -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/FatFingerShell-vt-with-fullscreen-keyboard-tp2542865p2544371.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FatFingerShell vt with fullscreen keyboard
Hello, --- On Fri, 3/27/09, The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, this is great! Best FR terminal I've seen. I do have a question though... In the output, it says ./fatfingershell: can't access font 8x13, trying fixed just before creating its GUI. That doesn't seem to be a problem, but I don't like rogue error messages, so where can I get that font? that is okey, I will remove that message soon. So you don't need that font to use FatFingerShell ;-) (that message is from xvt, but xvt does not need to show anything, so no worries). Thanks for your feedback, and one more question: In which Openmoko distribution are you testing? Regards -- Rafael Ignacio Zurita Buenos Aires, Argentina ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FatFingerShell vt with fullscreen keyboard
The Digital Pioneer ha scritto: Hey, this is great! Best FR terminal I've seen. I do have a question though... In the output, it says ./fatfingershell: can't access font 8x13, trying fixed just before creating its GUI. That doesn't seem to be a problem, but I don't like rogue error messages, so where can I get that font? Hi, I get the previous error and then this message, after GUI creation, and the program quits: ./fatfingershell: select failed Using Om2008.9+FDOM, any suggestion? Thank you very much for this great idea! :) Bye ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FatFingerShell vt with fullscreen keyboard
Hello, --- On Fri, 3/27/09, DJDAS dj...@djdas.net wrote: Hi, I get the previous error and then this message, after GUI creation, and the program quits: ./fatfingershell: select failed Using Om2008.9+FDOM, any suggestion? No idea, could you trace the fatfingershell binary with strace -f? If so, send me the output so I can check a bit more.. Thanks -- Rafael Ignacio Zurita Buenos Aires, Argentina ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Re: FatFingerShell vt with fullscreen keyboard
Rafael Ignacio Zurita ha scritto:
Hello,
--- On Fri, 3/27/09, DJDAS dj...@djdas.net wrote:
Hi,
I get the previous error and then this message, after GUI
creation, and
the program quits:
./fatfingershell: select failed
Using Om2008.9+FDOM, any suggestion?
No idea, could you trace the fatfingershell binary with strace -f?
If so, send me the output so I can check a bit more..
Thanks
Hi,
these are the last lines printed by strace (didn't know I had it
installed :P):
gettimeofday({1238166214, 933399}, NULL) = 0
ioctl(255, SNDCTL_TMR_TIMEBASE or TCGETS, 0xbed86a9c) = -1 EIO
(Input/output error)
rt_sigaction(SIGINT, {0x4bc18, [], 0x400 /* SA_??? */}, {0x4bc18,
[], 0x400 /* SA_??? */}, 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [CHLD TSTP TTIN TTOU], [], 8) = 0
ioctl(255, TIOCSPGRP, [3249]) = -1 ENOTTY (Inappropriate ioctl
for device)
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0
setpgid(0, 3249)= -1 EPERM (Operation not permitted)
rt_sigaction(SIGHUP, {SIG_DFL}, {0x4b9dc, [HUP INT ILL TRAP ABRT BUS FPE
USR1 SEGV USR2 PIPE ALRM TERM XCPU XFSZ VTALRM SYS], 0x400 /* SA_???
*/}, 8) = 0
kill(3249, SIGHUP) = 0
--- SIGHUP (Hangup) @ 0 (0) ---
Process 3249 detached
If you would like to have the complete trace, I'll send you privately as
I think list people don't want to download/read kilobytes of stuff :P
If it could help you, as tracing slows the execution, I saw the image
showing the keyboard and the transparent panel, but it seems to stop and
quit before getting the bash prompt.
Thank you in advance, bye.
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Re: FatFingerShell vt with fullscreen keyboard
Hello Werner, On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 10:34:31AM -0300, Werner Almesberger wrote: Rafael Ignacio Zurita wrote: it is a new virtual terminal for Openmoko, with a complete fullscreen keyboard and sound. Wow, I love this idea ! Alas, it looks a little slow. (Haven't tried to run it yet, just looked at the videos.) the tar.gz package is faster than videos ;-) because I recorded those before a few good changes in the code for perfomance. Anyway, Here's an idea how you could perhaps make it much faster: A long time ago, I discussed with Carsten about what the Glamo could do for us. Predictably, this quickly turned into some rather extensive bashing of this ill-fated chip. On item that came up is the lack of proper support for a feature X11 calls compositing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compositing_window_manager The Glamo hardware has the ability to blend images, but, if I recall our discussion correctly, X11 expects the blending operation to support certain formats which the Glamo doesn't. So the conclusion was that it wouldn't be possible to accelerate full X11 compositing with the Glamo. However, perhaps what the Glamo can do is enough for your full-screen overlay. So you would put the X11 framebuffer in one (off-screen) memory area A, draw the keyboard in an area B, and whenever X11 or keyboard manager have updated their screen content, the Glamo would be told to merge screens A and B into the real frame buffer. I would definitely like to use this idea. But, I don't know anything about glamo and if somebody is working in such features. This may also make it easy to do things like dynamically changing the respective brightness of the keyboard overlay and the background with the actual content. (*) Ha!, good item for the TODO list. I will add this idea soon in the current implementation :-) Now, having said all this, I have to admit that making the Glamo do anything is rather hard, and I've heard that X11 isn't trivial either. But several people have started to work on even more complicated things (DRM, GL, ...), so maybe there's someone who could help making an X server with such functionality. Yes, I will stay tuned in this list. Maybe I would try to help if that were possible (but I have read that it is either pretty hard or not very useful at the end). (*) For this, you would have to have a means to turn on the keyboard. This could be done by tapping an area where there's no key or where there's a key that doesn't do anything unpleasant (Shift or so), by just absorbing the first tap if the keyboard is dimmed, or perhaps by distinguishing a light touch of the screen from a tap. Oh, and where are the applications ? :-) When Openmoko first announced the Linux-based GTA01, I read a lot of jokes about the kind of user interface a Linux phone would have. Usually they were of the kind making a phone call is easy and intuitive: # phone dial -d /dev/ttySAC0 --number=+123456789 --voice But I wonder if something that would make a call with simply # call foobar wouldn't be about as convenient to use as a GUI. Hang up with ^C, background and do something else with ^Z, etc. :-) Well, the FatFingerShell has all the useful keys already there (ESC, Tab for auto-completion, CTRL+whatever.. etc). So yes, I need easy-to-use scripts to do everything from shell, like a real geek does :-) -- Rafael Ignacio Zurita Buenos Aires, Argentina ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FatFingerShell vt with fullscreen keyboard
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 04:10:20PM +0100, DJDAS wrote:
Rafael Ignacio Zurita ha scritto:
Hello,
--- On Fri, 3/27/09, DJDAS dj...@djdas.net wrote:
Hi,
I get the previous error and then this message, after GUI
creation, and
the program quits:
./fatfingershell: select failed
Using Om2008.9+FDOM, any suggestion?
No idea, could you trace the fatfingershell binary with strace -f?
If so, send me the output so I can check a bit more..
Hi,
these are the last lines printed by strace (didn't know I had it
installed :P):
gettimeofday({1238166214, 933399}, NULL) = 0
ioctl(255, SNDCTL_TMR_TIMEBASE or TCGETS, 0xbed86a9c) = -1 EIO
(Input/output error)
rt_sigaction(SIGINT, {0x4bc18, [], 0x400 /* SA_??? */}, {0x4bc18,
[], 0x400 /* SA_??? */}, 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [CHLD TSTP TTIN TTOU], [], 8) = 0
ioctl(255, TIOCSPGRP, [3249]) = -1 ENOTTY (Inappropriate ioctl
for device)
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0
setpgid(0, 3249)= -1 EPERM (Operation not permitted)
rt_sigaction(SIGHUP, {SIG_DFL}, {0x4b9dc, [HUP INT ILL TRAP ABRT BUS FPE
USR1 SEGV USR2 PIPE ALRM TERM XCPU XFSZ VTALRM SYS], 0x400 /* SA_???
*/}, 8) = 0
kill(3249, SIGHUP) = 0
--- SIGHUP (Hangup) @ 0 (0) ---
Process 3249 detached
I don't see the problem here.
If you would like to have the complete trace, I'll send you privately as
I think list people don't want to download/read kilobytes of stuff :P
Yes, of course, send me privately the complete output please.
If it could help you, as tracing slows the execution, I saw the image
showing the keyboard and the transparent panel, but it seems to stop and
quit before getting the bash prompt.
It looks like a problem of stdio for xvt (FatFingerShell has xvt code inside),
but we will see..
--
Rafael Ignacio Zurita
Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Re: android-sd-card
i didn't found a terminal and i detect no ssh-daemon, so i couldn't connect directly to the phone. had someone a reason here? i just want to edit /etc/fstab There is no ssh daemon. Nor is there a /etc/fstab! If you have your SD card in two partitions, as is recommended for android, then the second partition is mounted as /data The first partition should be mounted as /sdcard and is used as the equivalent of the extrnal SD on the G1, where the phone looks for music and other stuff. in some of the images this mount fails due to /sdcard not existing. You'll need to get access using adb and then remount the root partition as rw, create the mount point and the reboot the phone, if this directory isn't there. Then the phone storage details in the settings should display both internal and sd card storage. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/android-sd-card-tp2543867p2545548.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FW: wifi mp3 and qwerty?
hello people, i just bought my new openmoko, and for two weeks im trying to install things on it. i need some pointers if you could please provide me with: 1)a few days ago i flashed the moko with om 2008.12 i dont know how to find out what version is now installed. 2) after the flash the option of wifi was removed from the setting section, now i cannot connect to wifi, anyrecommanded wifi package? or how do i restore the wifi to the setting menu. 3) after the installtion of mediaplayer1 i copyied files, and when trying to run the files i recive 3 popup error messages saying: a. gstreamer error: interna data flow error. b.gstream error: you do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. You might need to install the necessar y plugins c.gstreamer error: A MPEG-1 Layer 3 (MP#) decoder plugin is required to play this stream. but not installed. now i found an old mail some one saying they had a simelar problem at : http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2171492 tried all the pagackes listed there (gst-plugin* ,libmad0*) none worked and i think i overloaded the packages (more then one package per pluging was installed). 4) could you please point out how to make a small qwerty icon to make the qwerty keyboad pop-up? thank you in advance, d flecktor out. Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Find out more. _ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail®. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme---BeginMessage--- hello people, i just bought my new openmoko, and for two weeks im trying to install things on it. i need some pointers if you could please provide me with: 1)a few days ago i flashed the moko with om 2008.12 i dont know how to find out what version is now installed. 2) after the flash the option of wifi was removed from the setting section, now i cannot connect to wifi, anyrecommanded wifi package? or how do i restore the wifi to the setting menu. 3) after the installtion of mediaplayer1 i copyied files, and when trying to run the files i recive 3 popup error messages saying: a. gstreamer error: interna data flow error. b.gstream error: you do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. You might need to install the necessar y plugins c.gstreamer error: A MPEG-1 Layer 3 (MP#) decoder plugin is required to play this stream. but not installed. now i found an old mail some one saying they had a simelar problem at : http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2171492 tried all the pagackes listed there (gst-plugin* ,libmad0*) none worked and i think i overloaded the packages (more then one package per pluging was installed). 4) could you please point out how to make a small qwerty icon to make the qwerty keyboad pop-up? thank you in advance, d flecktor out. _ Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009---End Message--- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
how do i turn the phone off?
I updated to 2008.12 and do not know how to turn the phone off. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: how do i turn the phone off?
Am Friday 27 March 2009 21:09:53 schrieb Kevin: I updated to 2008.12 and do not know how to turn the phone off. I'm not sure if this also applies to 2k8.12, but on FSO holding the power button does the job. -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: how do i turn the phone off?
Am Friday 27 March 2009 21:37:39 schrieb The Digital Pioneer: Universal phone shutdown instructions (works on any distro): 1. Remove back panel 2. Remove battery 3. Replace battery 4. Replace back panel Done! //Forgive me, I couldn't help myself. ;) LOL ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Qt Extended Improved] Alarm wake up from suspend
Hi all, I've been trying to enable wake from suspend for alarms in QtEI, and I've sorta got it. This file: http://radagast.bglug.ca/openmoko/alarmcontrol.cpp replaces the file of the same name at qt-extended-improved/src/server/coreserver/alarmcontrol.cpp The code will set a RTC alarm 15 seconds before the alarm. The FR will wake up at the appropriate time. But the alarm doesn't go off. Sometimes the alarm will sound 25 seconds later, sometimes longer. The problem seems to be the QObject event Timer system. The AlarmControl system starts a QObject timer. The timer is supposed to generate an event at the alarm time, but the event is late, sometimes very late. Suspend seems to bugger up the QObject timer system. So I'm posting what I've done so far in the hope that a brighter light than I can illuminate the QObject timer problem. later, Andrew Howlett. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-Qt-Extended-Improved--Alarm-wake-up-from-suspend-tp2546737p2546737.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qt Extended Improved] Alarm wake up from suspend
Here's some more details about the problem: http://radagast.bglug.ca/openmoko/qt_alarm_comments.txt later, andrew. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-Qt-Extended-Improved--Alarm-wake-up-from-suspend-tp2546737p2546874.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: question about kernel image build
but how i can increase the load size of u-boot?
Hey
you could use QI as bootloader,
or have a look at the following:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Uboot#What_if_I_borked_my_bootloader_environment_and_don.27t_get_a_prompt_anymore.3F
and change the line of the einvoronment.in:
bootcmd=
setenv bootargs ${bootargs_base} ${mtdparts};
nand read.e 0x3200 kernel 0x20;
bootm 0x3200
to:
bootcmd=
setenv bootargs ${bootargs_base} ${mtdparts};
nand read.e 0x3200 kernel 0x30;
bootm 0x3200
Greetings
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Re: how do i turn the phone off?
It takes about 5 seconds of holding the power button for the Shutdown message to appear. If you keep it pressed, it does a forced shutdown without waiting for programs to finish. And if all else fails, the instructions below work pretty well. Laura From: Marcel tan...@googlemail.com To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 2:53:09 PM Subject: Re: how do i turn the phone off? Am Friday 27 March 2009 21:37:39 schrieb The Digital Pioneer: Universal phone shutdown instructions (works on any distro): 1. Remove back panel 2. Remove battery 3. Replace battery 4. Replace back panel Done! //Forgive me, I couldn't help myself. ;) LOL ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Internal speakers: Stereo or mono?
Hello, I always thought the Freerunner's internal speaker(s?) were stereo ones. (And this was at least planned once for sure!) Now as I'm more or less actively using it as an mp3 player, I noticed that only the left one (according to the openings, looking at the FR from bottom) gives some noise. The effect is obvious if you close the openings with a finger, the volume only really decreases when closing the left one. Looking at the wiki it says the Freerunner's speaker is monophonic, so just *one* instead of two. Can someone clear this up? -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Internal speakers: Stereo or mono?
neo1973 had stereo, freerunner never had (and afair was never supposed to). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[all]: pyphonelog?
does anyone know if there are recent packages of pyphonelog[d]? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/PyPhonelog does list only fairly outdated (in case of pyphonelogd) or non-existent (pyphonelog) packages. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all]: pyphonelog?
Up to date packages are in SHR images and repos, as source of pyphonelog is in SHR git ;) 2009/3/27, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de: does anyone know if there are recent packages of pyphonelog[d]? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/PyPhonelog does list only fairly outdated (in case of pyphonelogd) or non-existent (pyphonelog) packages. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Internal speakers: Stereo or mono?
arne anka wrote: neo1973 had stereo, freerunner never had (and afair was never supposed to). IIRC the second speaker was removed from the Freerunner to make space for the WiFi module. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all]: pyphonelog?
Up to date packages are in SHR images and repos, as source of pyphonelog is in SHR git ;) ok, any way to get the packages w/o the shr image? in git i only found the gui, not the daemon which is necessary for non-shr distributions. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: how do i turn the phone off?
The Digital Pioneer wrote: Universal phone shutdown instructions (works on any distro): 1. Remove back panel 2. Remove battery 3. Replace battery 4. Replace back panel Done! 0. Unplug the USB power cable. The FR is capable of operating without a battery (although GSM and some other bits are not). The correct answer is of course to open a terminal and enter the command shutdown -h -P now. :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: how do i turn the phone off?
Yeah, I've noticed it will stay alive for a while without the battery if USB is in. I could've sworn it stayed alive for a while when suspended without the battery once too... Is there any other evidence of this? I'd like to be able to hotswap the battery without needing USB power if possible ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Organize the desktop in sub category..
I think for optimize the low space in the screen that can be usefull have the apps in sub category expandible and reducible (sorry for my bad english.. :( ) like this muck up http://mandarancio.deviantart.com/art/Around-mobile-interface-117305756 What do yuo think? -- Martino ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is SIM Toolkit possible to support on the freerunner?
On Thursday 26 March 2009 11:20:33 Helge Hafting wrote: Correct. While the STK commands are thorougly documented in the specs, the AT commands are device-specific. I can collect the Calypso-specific information you need -- if you want to work on that. I'm interested. I'd like to get this banking stuff working at least. That ought to get other get some user input apps working too. Here you are. These are the four commands: AT%SATCconfiguration for SAT; %SATC=n,sat profile AT%SATEsend SAT envelope command; %SATE=satCmd, response will be %SATE: satRsp AT%SATRsend SAT command response; %SATR=satRsp AT%SATTterminate SAT command or session; %SATT=cs (0=user stopped redialing, 1 end of redialing, 2 user ends session) commands and responses need to be formatted as PDUs (simple hex format I think). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Organize the desktop in sub category..
Indeed, those are beautiful. I'd absolutely love to see them implemented. Good Oxygen icons too. :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
ffalarms 0.2.1 and atd-over-fso (now works on SHR-testing)
Hello I am the author of Finger friendly alarms [1]. Which I developed for Om 2008.12 up to version 0.2. I am happy to announce version 0.2.1 of ffalarms which adds support for SHR (tested on SHR testing) -- for this I ported atd to work on top of FSO Framework Time API (called atd-over-fso available from ffalarms download page [2]). Version 0.2 also fixes Daylight Saving Time problem and adds several minor improvements, see [3] for installation instructions and detailed changes and [2] for downloads. Please report any problems or possible improvements (those may take long time to come :)). [1] http://ffalarms.projects.openmoko.org/ [2] http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/?group_id=260 [3] http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/shownotes.php?release_id=488 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ffalarms 0.2.1 and atd-over-fso (now works on SHR-testing)
SHR-unstable, it segfaults with no output. However, if I run it with --help I do see that output... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: how do i turn the phone off?
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 8:37 PM, The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com wrote: Universal phone shutdown instructions (works on any distro): 1. Remove back panel 2. Remove battery 3. Replace battery Not on my Freerunner, this almost invariably provokes it to restart. Possibly the Qi booting does it. 4. Replace back panel Done! //Forgive me, I couldn't help myself. ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: how do i turn the phone off?
Yes, mine does to. But you cannot deny that, with exception to the case of another power source, the phone DID indeed turn off. :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: how do i turn the phone off?
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 3:41 AM, The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, mine does to. But you cannot deny that, with exception to the case of another power source, the phone DID indeed turn off. :) No, Sorry the mail went before I finished, but I am glad someone else gets the same. I do however, especially with the GTA01, always remove the battery at this stage, and only replace it when I want to restart. cheers, clare ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
