Re: Re: [fso] opimd?

2009-08-17 Thread jeffrey . ratcliffe

On Aug 16, 2009 5:22pm, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com wrote:

The same for messages, but it stores smses only when some other
backend than SIM-Messages-FSO is specified as default.
About databases in /etc - I agree, but that's how it was before I
started to work at opimd and I din't touch it.


Sorry for hijacking the thread, but after getting fed up of having to  
delete texts from the SIM to free up space, I thought I'd give the  
sqlite-backend a try, as the wiki[1] gave the impression that the basic  
functionality was there.


I set the sqlite-backend for messages as default in the SHR-Unstable  
settings/other/PIM domains window and rebooted. After not receiving any  
texts after several hours, I had to switch back to the SIM.


What am I missing?

Regards

Jeff

[1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Opimd
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Re: [fso] opimd?

2009-08-17 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/8/16 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com

 I don't get you. IRC is always available, it was mentioned LOTS of
 time on maillists and tracs.


You will have to create proper documentation some time anyway. If you do it
early, you save your time answering questions on IRC and the mailing list.

Right now the documentation is a bad joke. I'm thinking about the API
reference (not only opimd, whole fso).

Michal
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buzzfix in Switzerland?

2009-08-17 Thread steve
Hi list,

I've been playing with my neo during the holidays, and I must say that
I'm really impressed by it running shr-u. Now I would like to use
it as my dayly phone but there is this buzz problem which is really a
blocker. So I would like to make it buzzfixed. I'm in Switzerland, what
is the best way to do it? 

Any pointers would be great.

Thank you in advance,
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Re: buzzfix in Switzerland?

2009-08-17 Thread Vinzenz Hersche
Am Montag, 17. August 2009 11.07:56 schrieb steve:
 Hi list,

 I've been playing with my neo during the holidays, and I must say that
 I'm really impressed by it running shr-u. Now I would like to use
 it as my dayly phone but there is this buzz problem which is really a
 blocker. So I would like to make it buzzfixed. I'm in Switzerland, what
 is the best way to do it?

 Any pointers would be great.

 Thank you in advance,
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i'm also interessted, know about 4-5 openmokos to buzzfix.. :)
near bern would be the best...

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Re: buzzfix in Switzerland?

2009-08-17 Thread Davide Scaini
i'm in Italy and i have the very same desire... ;-)
thanks
d

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:07 AM, steve dl...@bluewin.ch wrote:

 Hi list,

 I've been playing with my neo during the holidays, and I must say that
 I'm really impressed by it running shr-u. Now I would like to use
 it as my dayly phone but there is this buzz problem which is really a
 blocker. So I would like to make it buzzfixed. I'm in Switzerland, what
 is the best way to do it?

 Any pointers would be great.

 Thank you in advance,
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Re: Buzz fix party at Debconf09 pics aviable :)

2009-08-17 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 12:05:19AM +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote:
 There are some more from other camera unpublished yet but a great
 bunch of them are avialable with comments in spanish and english
 english version here
 http://www.tuxbrain.com/en/content/there-and-back-againtuxbrain-debconf09-pics
 I'm working on the subtitles of the vids I hope I can finish them soon

Are you getting my emails? There's a serious problem...

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open-source gsm

2009-08-17 Thread Robin Paulson
for the non-slashdot readers:

harald welte, a previous contributor here, has set up an open-source
gsm network at a hack fest in the netherlands. all legal

more details here:

http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/09/08/17/0014235/Open-Source-GSM-Network-At-Dutch-Hacker-Convention?art_pos=4

no mention i can see of whether the modem runs open firmware or not,
but we can live in hope

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Re: buzzfix in Switzerland?

2009-08-17 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut]
 Any pointers would be great.
http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Buzz-Rework


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Re: buzzfix in Switzerland?

2009-08-17 Thread Daniel R. Spögler
Am 17.08.2009 11:07, schrieb steve:
 Hi list,

 I've been playing with my neo during the holidays, and I must say that
 I'm really impressed by it running shr-u. Now I would like to use
 it as my dayly phone but there is this buzz problem which is really a
 blocker. So I would like to make it buzzfixed. I'm in Switzerland, what
 is the best way to do it?

 Any pointers would be great.

 Thank you in advance,
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+ 1
albeit I didn't experiencing a buzz on the swisscom and sunrise network. 
I just like to be buzzfixed :-)

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Re: Re: [fso] opimd?

2009-08-17 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/17/09, jeffrey.ratcli...@gmail.com jeffrey.ratcli...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Aug 16, 2009 5:22pm, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com wrote:
 The same for messages, but it stores smses only when some other
 backend than SIM-Messages-FSO is specified as default.
 About databases in /etc - I agree, but that's how it was before I
 started to work at opimd and I din't touch it.

 Sorry for hijacking the thread, but after getting fed up of having to
 delete texts from the SIM to free up space, I thought I'd give the
 sqlite-backend a try, as the wiki[1] gave the impression that the basic
 functionality was there.

 I set the sqlite-backend for messages as default in the SHR-Unstable
 settings/other/PIM domains window and rebooted. After not receiving any
 texts after several hours, I had to switch back to the SIM.

 What am I missing?

 Regards

 Jeff

 [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Opimd


That should be obvious - messaging (and notifing) apps which support
opimd. Your messages came, and are stored in opimd, but as you don't
use any opimd based app you can't see them.

opimd support in SHR apps will be there after rewrite, which hopefully
will happen soon.

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Re: [shr-u] wifi timeout with mokonnect

2009-08-17 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 01:14:37AM +0400, Paul Fertser wrote:

 I really hoped Werner would take care of that but he's too busy with
 gta02-core project currently and we lack another expert in Wifi in
 general and Atheros's crappy code in particular :(

   What little I've seen of that code does not look promising. The author
didn't understand the netif_stop_queue()/netif_wake_queue() calls, so who
knows what else might have gone wrong? Someone needs to sit down with the
firmware interface specification (i.e. from the existing driver?) and match
it up with the Linux network device API (make htmldocs) and then write
a new driver.

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Re: [ALL] uboot, SDHC, and ext2

2009-08-17 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 08:59:13AM -0700, Russell Dwiggins wrote:

[Failure to read ext2 partition using ancient version of U-Boot]

 I added the info to the discussion of the Booting_from_SD page, but I
 thought I'd bring it up here as well since I haven't seen this discussed in
 the wiki or in these lists.  Is this well known?

   Well, OM U-Boot was patched nearly four months ago to address this very
issue. See

http://git.openmoko.org/?p=u-boot.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/stable

  Do we know if there is a
 uboot capable of  booting cards partitioned by modern mkfs?

   Just upgrade your U-Boot. You need the version
57f7a4288aaa08d2dc480a923372e7a7781ce882 or later. See
http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/experimental/

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Re: The trivial #1024 GSM fix

2009-08-17 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 01:41:49PM +0200, arne anka wrote:
  1) Find somewhere to buy a 10 uF SMD capacitor small enough. E.g. there's
  nowhere in Denmark I can get one. I'd need to go abroad (Malmö,  
  Sweden)[1]
 
 i assume, you are located at sjælland, then?

   Yes.

 any chance you'd be willing to apply that fix to othere people's frerunner?
 i'd gladly consider a trip to copenhagen or roskilde ...

   No promises until I've applied the #1024 fix to my own Freerunner.

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FSO resources (Was: is wifi-driver developed anymore?)

2009-08-17 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:58:54AM -0400, Warren Baird wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Warren Baird
 wjba...@alumni.uwaterloo.cawrote:
 
  I believe that fsoraw -r RESOURCE myprogram is approximately like writing
  a script like:

#!/bin/sh
mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage
 org.freesmartphone.Usage.SetResourcePolicy RESOURCE enabled
myprogram
mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage
 org.freesmartphone.Usage.SetResourcePolicy RESOURCE disabled

   No, SetResourcePolicy does something entirely different than fsoraw
(RequestResource). Why do you not try it both ways? You can use sleep 20
for myprogram and GPS for RESOURCE and with both, try to see if you
can get TangoGPS or some such gpsd user to work afterwards. Reboot before
each attempt so you start from a known working state.

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Re: GPS NMEA sentences over serial port

2009-08-17 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 05:18:13PM +0530, RANJAN wrote:
Alternatively, and this is what I suggest, use ssh to forward connections
  from the gpsd port on your laptop to the gpsd port on your Neo:
 
  $ ssh -L localhost:2947:localhost:2947 debian-gta02 -- sleep inf 
 
 Can I use this to forward the 2947 port from Neo to 2947 on laptop ,in other
 sense can I get the values being generated from Neo at 2947 of Neo be
 available at 2947 on the laptop.

   Yes, you run the command above on your laptop. Btw, if you want to access
port 2947 on the laptop from some other host, you will need to cut off the
first localhost: so the command reads

$ ssh -L 2947:localhost:2947 debian-gta02 -- sleep inf 

and maybe also change some ssh settings. See the ssh manual page.

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neote

2009-08-17 Thread Vinzenz Hersche
hello all,
i've just got a problem with neote.. normaly it should looks like this:
http://code.google.com/p/neote/wiki/Screenshots
but for me, the add note and notes-tab are blank (not the tab itself, but the 
content, so text-node and draw-node).
if i start it from shell, the dimensions also arent very good, and i didn't 
became some output.

so may someone know whats wrong?

i already checked the python-elementary-version and it's ok..
because from website:
It's tested on SHR unstable only. Normally, it should run on any system with a 
revision of python-elementary equal or greater to 40756.

and from opkg
r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg info python-elementary
Package: python-elementary
Version: 0.1+svnr41040-ml1

so don't know whats wrong, on first start it was working. it also doesn't work 
by deleting config-files...

hope, someone could help..

greets

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Re: GPS NMEA sentences over serial port

2009-08-17 Thread RANJAN
Actually got it working but had to properly understand the concept of ssh
host ,client -server and where to read it.Thanks.

Sriranjan

On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen 
ccc94...@vip.cybercity.dk wrote:

 On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 05:18:13PM +0530, RANJAN wrote:
 Alternatively, and this is what I suggest, use ssh to forward
 connections
   from the gpsd port on your laptop to the gpsd port on your Neo:
  
   $ ssh -L localhost:2947:localhost:2947 debian-gta02 -- sleep inf 
 
  Can I use this to forward the 2947 port from Neo to 2947 on laptop ,in
 other
  sense can I get the values being generated from Neo at 2947 of Neo be
  available at 2947 on the laptop.

Yes, you run the command above on your laptop. Btw, if you want to
 access
 port 2947 on the laptop from some other host, you will need to cut off the
 first localhost: so the command reads

 $ ssh -L 2947:localhost:2947 debian-gta02 -- sleep inf 

 and maybe also change some ssh settings. See the ssh manual page.

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A6 for sale in Australia

2009-08-17 Thread Michael Smith
Hi All,

I bought a five pack of GSM-900 openmoko phones. One I am keeping (very
happy now that I am running OM.2009). Three I have sold to other
people. The price for the last phone is 336.42 Australian dollars. That
is exactly one fifth of the price I paid for the pack, including GST
and customs charges. The price includes shipping within Australia.

This phone is unopened, still in the original packaging.
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Re: Buzz fix party at Debconf09 pics aviable :)

2009-08-17 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
2009/8/17 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org:
 On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 12:05:19AM +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote:
 There are some more from other camera unpublished yet but a great
 bunch of them are avialable with comments in spanish and english
 english version here
 http://www.tuxbrain.com/en/content/there-and-back-againtuxbrain-debconf09-pics
 I'm working on the subtitles of the vids I hope I can finish them soon

 Are you getting my emails? There's a serious problem...

 Rui
Hey I'm trying to reach you trough private mail have you receive it? I
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Re: Buzz fix party at Debconf09 pics aviable :)

2009-08-17 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 01:31:59PM +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote:
 2009/8/17 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org:
  On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 12:05:19AM +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez 
  wrote:
  There are some more from other camera unpublished yet but a great
  bunch of them are avialable with comments in spanish and english
  english version here
  http://www.tuxbrain.com/en/content/there-and-back-againtuxbrain-debconf09-pics
  I'm working on the subtitles of the vids I hope I can finish them soon
 
  Are you getting my emails? There's a serious problem...
 
  Rui
 Hey I'm trying to reach you trough private mail have you receive it? I
 have not receive anything from you

I received your email, but since you're not receiving mine, I'll try to email
you through gmail.

Rui

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[no subject]

2009-08-17 Thread Michael Pilgermann
(cross post from SHR list)

Dear all,

For an Openmoko PIM Synchronization tool (called PISI) I developed a
module to integrate with SyncML-servers this weekend. It is all running
fine on my Linux box (desktop) already.

I had some libs to install in order to get prepared. Now, for putting
the package together for the Openmoko I need to port them. However, I am
not very familar with this stuff (Python programmer) and have no
toolchain installed (I think, I heart that's the way to go for that kind
of stuff) ...


So my question is, whether somebody (who has maybe already a fully
functional toolchain installed) could assemble Openmoko packages (best
ipk I would say) for the following three modules:

- wbxml
(http://sourceforge.net/projects/libwbxml/files/libwbxml/0.10.7/libwbxml-0.10.7.tar.gz/download)
- libsoup (http://live.gnome.org/LibSoup)
- libsyncml
(http://sourceforge.net/projects/libsyncml/files/libsyncml/0.5.4/libsyncml-0.5.4.tar.gz/download)


Uploading them to opkg.org would be grant - but if you just send them
over, I would do the rest, too ...

Please, please help - if I need to do it myself, it will probably take
me ages (and will look like the openldap module ;))

Michael


PS: There were comments already, that BB-files should be the way to go - 
however, about that I know even less ...

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Elementary documentation

2009-08-17 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
Hey,

I couldn't find elementary documentation anywhere in web, but Doxygen
based docs are avalable in elementary sources. I generated html files
from that and put it into my server:
http://openmoko.opendevice.org/~dos/elementary/

I hope now we'll have so many great elementary based apps ;)

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Getting location info from cell tower

2009-08-17 Thread c_c

Hi,
  I have noticed that in a lot of networks across the globe, GSM towers
transmit their location as a string indicating a locality. I believe this is
a cell broadcast service - though I'm not too sure about that. Can anyone
tell me whether this information can be obtained from FSO or through any
other method?
  An how do I obtain this? I'm looking at showing this info on launcher's
homescreen.
Thanks
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Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India

2009-08-17 Thread Vikas Saurabh
 On a related note, the fix for #1024 and the bass boost as well as the
 shorting of the erroneous capacitor[1] (if present) would be a welcome
 addition to the Buzz fix. It seems a reasonable amount of effort to send
 the phone and it would make sense to do as much as possible on this one
 trip. Could someone with hardware skills explain the various fixes to
 the guy who is doing the fixes ?

I am no hardware guy, in fact I haven't even opened up my phone beyond
the battery case yet...not that I see some risk...just that I don't
see any reason to do that. Anyways, for bass fix there is a wiki page
(http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_bass_fix) which suggests more
that one way of fixing the issue with pros and cons
For bug#1024, the only nice link I got was
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2009-May/001192.html

I think the descriptions are pretty well written but then thats my
perspective who hasn't ever used a solder iron. Anyone with more
experience please jump in.

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Re: Getting location info from cell tower

2009-08-17 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/17/09, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi,
   I have noticed that in a lot of networks across the globe, GSM towers
 transmit their location as a string indicating a locality. I believe this is
 a cell broadcast service - though I'm not too sure about that. Can anyone
 tell me whether this information can be obtained from FSO or through any
 other method?
   An how do I obtain this? I'm looking at showing this info on launcher's
 homescreen.
 Thanks

I also looked for that, but I couldn't get this information from FSO.
On other phones it's something like cell info, the same data is also
broadcasted on channel 50 (but i couldn't get cell broadcast messages
with my neo when i tried last time)

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Re: Getting location info from cell tower

2009-08-17 Thread c_c

Hi,

Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
 
 On other phones it's something like cell info, the same data is also
 broadcasted on channel 50 (but i couldn't get cell broadcast messages
 with my neo when i tried last time)
 
 Yup. I tried getting it from channel 50 using mickeyterm - but wasn't
successful. The tower near my house is providing this info and every Nokia
cell I've used shows this. 
 Getting it on the FR is a different issue though. I'm hoping someone with
better knowledge about GSM can show me the way.
  On an aside - I'm still not getting messages from signals NewMissedCalls
and UnreadMesages. CAn you sonfirm they're triggered in the latest SHR-U
(just updated today).
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Re: Getting location info from cell tower

2009-08-17 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/17/09, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:

 On other phones it's something like cell info, the same data is also
 broadcasted on channel 50 (but i couldn't get cell broadcast messages
 with my neo when i tried last time)

  Yup. I tried getting it from channel 50 using mickeyterm - but wasn't
 successful. The tower near my house is providing this info and every Nokia
 cell I've used shows this.
  Getting it on the FR is a different issue though. I'm hoping someone with
 better knowledge about GSM can show me the way.
   On an aside - I'm still not getting messages from signals NewMissedCalls
 and UnreadMesages. CAn you sonfirm they're triggered in the latest SHR-U
 (just updated today).

Latest SHR-U doesn't use opimd, but actual phone stack is obsolete and
new will be fully opimd-aware (and it will be hopefully written soon)

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Re: Elementary documentation

2009-08-17 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/17/09, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey,

 I couldn't find elementary documentation anywhere in web, but Doxygen
 based docs are avalable in elementary sources. I generated html files
 from that and put it into my server:
 http://openmoko.opendevice.org/~dos/elementary/

 I hope now we'll have so many great elementary based apps ;)

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If someone doesn't know it, this page can be also useful, as
documentation isn't complete yet:
http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Elementary
(there are some problems with images, but they aren't as important as
code and description :P)

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Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India

2009-08-17 Thread Vibhav Sharma




Vikas Saurabh wrote:

  
On a related note, the fix for #1024 and the bass boost as well as the
shorting of the erroneous capacitor[1] (if present) would be a welcome
addition to the Buzz fix. It seems a reasonable amount of effort to send
the phone and it would make sense to do as much as possible on this one
trip. Could someone with hardware skills explain the various fixes to
the guy who is doing the fixes ?

  
  
I am no hardware guy, in fact I haven't even opened up my phone beyond
the battery case yet...not that I see some risk...just that I don't
see any reason to do that. Anyways, for bass fix there is a wiki page
(http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_bass_fix) which suggests more
that one way of fixing the issue with pros and cons
For bug#1024, the only nice link I got was
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2009-May/001192.html

I think the descriptions are pretty well written but then thats my
perspective who hasn't ever used a solder iron. Anyone with more
experience please jump in.

--Vikas

I also haven't opened the phone so don't have any idea how difficult
opening the RF cage is.
But once past that, I'd prefer replacing the Capacitor with a higher
capacity one instead of adding 
another in parallel. I believe extra wires inside the RF cage can have
unintended side-effects.

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Re: Getting location info from cell tower

2009-08-17 Thread Chris Samuel
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:42:06 pm c_c wrote:

 An how do I obtain this? I'm looking at showing this info on launcher's
 homescreen.

Qtopia/QTEI/QtMoko can extract that info, so a look at the source for that 
should give away how it's done.

FWIW I don't think Android can display it yet either. ;-)

cheers,
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Re: Buzz fix party at Debconf09 pics aviable :)

2009-08-17 Thread Kosa
I'm reading this. Is that what your asking?

Cheers

Kosa

- Un mundo mejor es posible -

Rui Miguel Silva Seabra escribió:
 On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 12:05:19AM +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote:
 There are some more from other camera unpublished yet but a great
 bunch of them are avialable with comments in spanish and english
 english version here
 http://www.tuxbrain.com/en/content/there-and-back-againtuxbrain-debconf09-pics
 I'm working on the subtitles of the vids I hope I can finish them soon
 
 Are you getting my emails? There's a serious problem...
 
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Re: Convert Tangogps's poi.db JOSM suitable gpx files

2009-08-17 Thread GNUtoo
 2009/8/16 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com:
 2009/8/16 GNUtoo gnu...@no-log.org:
 I've made a python script that converts poi.db in gpx files...
 what should I do with it?

 put it on the wiki, on the tangogps page?

 package it up and put it on opkg.org?

 you might want to check tangogps.org, i'm sure something similar
 already exists. the writer might be interested in merging his script
 and yours? or maybe hosting your script?

 I'll really appreciate if you post here in ML a compressed file with
 the script, or a link to download it. At now I have a _lot_ of pois
 but I'm too busy to place it on the OSM map, it should be really quick
 importing them directly in JOSM using a GPX.

 Thanks,
Done,it's posted in the wiki,and it's also available as an attachment in
my first mail,but:
*I don't have time to do an opkg recipe
*It is intended to run on the computer that is running JOSM

Maybe I need to open poi.db as an argument(argc/argv)(I did it very
quickly because of the lack of time)

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Re: Getting location info from cell tower

2009-08-17 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/17/09, Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org wrote:
 On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:42:06 pm c_c wrote:

 An how do I obtain this? I'm looking at showing this info on launcher's
 homescreen.

 Qtopia/QTEI/QtMoko can extract that info, so a look at the source for that
 should give away how it's done.

 FWIW I don't think Android can display it yet either. ;-)

 cheers,
 Chris

Thanks for pointing, I'll look at it!

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Re: Elementary documentation

2009-08-17 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 03:09:42PM +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
 On 8/17/09, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hey,
 
  I couldn't find elementary documentation anywhere in web, but Doxygen
  based docs are avalable in elementary sources. I generated html files
  from that and put it into my server:
  http://openmoko.opendevice.org/~dos/elementary/
 
  I hope now we'll have so many great elementary based apps ;)
 
  --
  Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
  dos
 
 
 If someone doesn't know it, this page can be also useful, as
 documentation isn't complete yet:
 http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Elementary
 (there are some problems with images, but they aren't as important as
 code and description :P)

All I did in ElmDentica was lots of head butting against walls, that
wiki document (and only about twice I saw it with images) and its examples,
the .h files and lots of bugging to friendly people on IRC to whom I'm
immensely grateful.

If someone documented better the arguments in the .h files, lot's of
problems would've been avoided.

Rui

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[SHR-U] Suspend after upgrade

2009-08-17 Thread Dan Staley
So this weekend I used my freerunner as my main phone, receiving and sending
texts and calls all weekend and it worked great!

Unfortunately, last night I decided to opkg upgrade because there was a
kernel update and I wanted to see if the recent wifi problems were fixed.
After the upgrade, I now can't seem to suspend.  I don't see any errors in
the frameworkd log..but even when I manually tell it to suspend (from
the power button menu), it brings up the preparing to suspend pop up, then
it just goes away...no suspend.  Nothing happens.

Is anyone else experiencing this?  Anyone know a log file I can look at to
help dianose?

Thanks,
-Dan Staley
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RE: neote

2009-08-17 Thread Russell Dwiggins

 so may someone know whats wrong?

If you have installed an alternative theme recently, that could be the
issue.

Russell Dwiggins


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Re: [SHR-U] Suspend after upgrade

2009-08-17 Thread Lukas Märdian
Am 17.08.2009 17:30, schrieb Dan Staley:
 So this weekend I used my freerunner as my main phone, receiving and 
 sending texts and calls all weekend and it worked great!

 Unfortunately, last night I decided to opkg upgrade because there was 
 a kernel update and I wanted to see if the recent wifi problems were 
 fixed.
 After the upgrade, I now can't seem to suspend.  I don't see any 
 errors in the frameworkd log..but even when I manually tell it to 
 suspend (from the power button menu), it brings up the preparing to 
 suspend pop up, then it just goes away...no suspend.  Nothing happens.

 Is anyone else experiencing this?  Anyone know a log file I can look 
 at to help dianose?

 Thanks,
 -Dan Staley

Hey,
I've got the same issue.
Check SHR-User mailinglist. We had a long discussion about this issue 
there in the Have the problems with quot; opkg upgradequot;been 
resolved? thread. For some people this commit fixes it: 
http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=shr-themes.git;a=commit;h=de367ad3948f22450d4e0715957d7825f5527e23
Furthermore, there were new builds of packeges belonging to this issue. 
Maybe todays upgrade will fix it. I'll try soon.

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Re: [litephone] entering numbers during a call

2009-08-17 Thread Christof Musik
Hi Ali

I just tried it here with a normal phone and it worked for me. You have
to go back to the dialer. There you can input your pin.

Which distribution do you use? Does it work with other phone tools?

Please start litephone from commandline and send me the output of it.
Maybe I can see the problem from there.

Kind regards,
Christof

On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 03:52:14PM -0700, Ali wrote:
 On Sun, 2009-08-16 at 10:59 +0200, Christian Rüb wrote:
  
  I made a new ipk based on above commit [1] (litephone_0.0+git52+e6f7...). 
  Ali, can you please check if it works for you now?
  
  Cheers,
   Christian
  
  [1] http://openmoko.senfdax.de/shr-unstable/
 Hey, thanks for the quick reply, fix, and ipk, but it is still not
 working. How does one bring up the keypad during a call in litephone? I
 click the phone icon, key in the number and the screen changes to active
 call: (number) with the vol up and down icons to the right. I press the
 phone icon again to go to the only keypad i've seen in litephone and
 pressing the keys there does not send the tones. For the hell of it i
 pressed call after keying in my pin, and it just attempts to make
 another call as expected. Am I doing something wrong? Does it work for
 you guys?
 
 
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Re: Getting location info from cell tower

2009-08-17 Thread Onen

Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
 On 8/17/09, Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org wrote:
 On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:42:06 pm c_c wrote:

 An how do I obtain this? I'm looking at showing this info on launcher's
 homescreen.
 Qtopia/QTEI/QtMoko can extract that info, so a look at the source for that
 should give away how it's done.

 FWIW I don't think Android can display it yet either. ;-)


The D-Bus service I am working on, which uses the openBmap data, will 
provide a locality name for the cell you are asking location. I know, if 
the cell gives it to you, why bother ;-) On the other side, this may be 
of interest for obm, to log this together with the GSM data. This would 
save some Web calls to reverse geocoding API...

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Kernel Mode-Setting (KMS) on Neo FreeRunner + Debian

2009-08-17 Thread Chris Samuel
I haven't seen anyone else post about this yet, but this looks really neat!

(Found via Planet Ubuntu)

http://losca.blogspot.com/2009/08/kernel-mode-setting-kms-on-neo.html

# Forget AMD, Intel, NVIDIA! Thomas White's incredible work with Neo
# FreeRunner's puny graphics dec...accelerator, Smedia Glamo 3362 is starting
# to bear fruits.  [...]
# 
# The camera shot on the right, running KMS-enabled X.org driver for the glamo
# chip on my Debian installation (visible software matchbox-window-manager,
# fbpanel, zhone), is a bit optimistic looking since Zhone happens to draw
# correctly. A lot of the drawing is not yet synced correctly, which shows as
# all text and images in eg. GTK applications being garbled. But as little as
# two days ago one couldn't yet much launch applications without X crashing,
# so the newest commits by Thomas were a big step forwards. I'm using Debian,
# and he's not, so I try to find time to help in debugging even though I
# really can't much help with the driver code.
#
# The driver is not just one piece of code, but consists of a kernel drm
# driver (direct rendering manager) using GEM, libdrm support for the kernel
# driver and finally the X.org driver supporting these other components and
# offering buzz-words like DRI2. There is also a beginning of a Mesa 3D
# driver, though it is so far just a skeleton driver since the 2D/KMS/EXA/DRM
# parts are what should be done first before dwelling into the OpenGL realm.
[...]

Even has an excerpt from the X servers log file with:

# (WW) Glamo(0): EXA hardware acceleration initialising
# (II) EXA(0): Driver allocated offscreen pixmaps
# (II) EXA(0): Driver registered support for the following operations:
# (II) Solid
# (II) Copy
# (II) Glamo(0): Initialized EXA acceleration

Thomas's own blog is here:

http://www.bitwiz.org.uk/

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Re: Getting location info from cell tower

2009-08-17 Thread c_c

Hi,

Onen wrote:
 
  On the other side, this may be 
 of interest for obm, to log this together with the GSM data. This would 
 save some Web calls to reverse geocoding API...
 
  Well, it could also be a cross check and provide a reasonable location in
areas where the towers aren't mapped yet. Then there are times when you
really don't want the exact location - but would like to know the area
you're in (in a bus / train). It does have its uses - at very little cost.
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Re: Getting location info from cell tower

2009-08-17 Thread c_c

Hi,

Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
 
 Latest SHR-U doesn't use opimd, but actual phone stack is obsolete and
 new will be fully opimd-aware (and it will be hopefully written soon)
 
  Ahh! Thanks for clarifying that - will move to signals that work for now.
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Enhancing launcher - feedback

2009-08-17 Thread c_c

Hi,

Dan Staley wrote:
 
 Hi,
 You mentioned that you were looking on enhancing launcher..I love the
 app, but have a couple of suggestions:
 
 1.)  Could you add an option to display the time in the 12 hour format
 instead of 24?
 2.)  I have a couple programs that show up twice in the group they are
 in...not sure if it is a bug or somehow they got added twice to the
 sqllite db.
 3.)  Launcher wont correctly run some programs that has a space in the
 exec declaration of the .desktop file.  (ex: literki's default .desktop
 file and shr's phonelog)...however others run fine... (mokomaze with
 fsoraw appended to the beginning)  Not sure what is causing this.
 
 If I can help debugging any of this let me know.
 
 Thanks,
 -Dan Staley
 
  I thought I'll use this email to get some feedback on this ML.

  I've spent some time trying to add stuff to Illume - but am still divided
between having a seperate user space app for the FR. Tying phone
functionality to Illume doesn't really feel right.
  Launcher already works reasonably - and adding basic phone functionality
will make a lot of sense - hence this effort. Unfortunately, I'm never
really satisfied with the basic ;-)

  The plan is therefore to add the following:-

 * call log (already done to a large extent)
 * match numbers to callers (in progress)
 * sms app (with threads) (planned but not yet started)
 * location info display (if someone can show me how)
 * notification service - (stuck halfway) allowing any app to give a
notification to the user. It'll work similar to the way things work now for
indicating sms/missed calls. A notification icon gets shown on the home
page, clicking it brings up a notifications window with an icon and a
message in a button allowing the (client) app to set another app (mostly
itself) to run in response to the button click. 
 * reminders for notifications (including sms/missed calls)
 * icons indicating the profile settings (vibrate / silent etc)
 * perhaps overloading the aux button to provide some specific functionality
(like brightness/picking calls etc)


  Help needed
 * dbus service using e libs. How do I register a service from a running
app? I'm a little unsure about whether a marshaller is needed or not - and
what the right way to implement this using e would be.

 * icons for just about everything - missed calls, incoming calls, outgoing
calls, new sms, read sms, phone icon, mobile icon etc.
  I'm currently using icons from opimd-utils. Hope that's OK.

 * bug reports on launcher. There are a few pending bugs - will fix them
soon.

 I'll get back sms/missed call functionality (had shifted to opimd till I
was told that the current stack hasn't) and will release a test version with
phonelog working soon(maybe today).

About the Q's.
Could you add an option to display the time in the 12 hour format instead
of 24?
 You can have any display format. Set the display string in Preferences
(DateTime). The format is as per strftime.

 I have a couple programs that show up twice in the group they are in...not
 sure if it is a bug or somehow they got added twice to the sqllite db.
 Thats a bug in the parsing. Will fix it soon.

 Launcher wont correctly run some programs that has a space in the exec
 declaration of the .desktop file.
  Thats a bug too. The string I'm passing to ecore_exe_run needs some work.
Will fix that too soon.


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