Re: [all / linux] neo as gps unit?

2009-08-22 Thread Stroller
On 21 Aug 2009, at 16:15, Al Johnson wrote: On Friday 21 August 2009, Olivier Migeot wrote: On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Helge Haftinghelge.haft...@hist.no wrote: Could that be the default configuration? That would also listen on ppp0. Which could be problematic if - dunno if many

Re: Hi

2009-08-22 Thread Michal Brzozowski
Hi, Most people just use their favorite technology. There is a c++ qt camp, python elementary, etc. The phone logic backend uses python and vala, the lower level c and c++. Since the phone is just like a linux box, you can use any technologies you want, such as java, ocaml, mono (theoretically,

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-22 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 2:17 AM, David Reyes Samblas Martinezda...@tuxbrain.com wrote: Partial success, after installing Jaunty, the import proccess apt2db goes ok and I have the example repo in a sqlite but the web server doesn't boot up here is the error log I forwarded the error to

Re: Hi

2009-08-22 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Hi Soumik! Depends on what you want to work on, but if you have a freerunner, my suggestion is to install om2009 unstable there (see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009 ) and contribute to Paroli for a start (see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Paroli ). That'd be very beneficial for many and

Re: Bugfix for #1024 (gsm modem re-camping) done

2009-08-22 Thread Ed Kapitein
Hi Rainer, Thanks for sharing your work with us. Why did you put the capacitor on the right hand side and extended it with the yellow wire? The wire might pick up a signal and cause other trouble. There seems to be room to fit the extra capacitor on the left hand side, between the two black IC's.

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-22 Thread George Brooke
On Saturday 22 August 2009 00:17:57 David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: Partial success, after installing Jaunty, the import proccess apt2db goes ok and I have the example repo in a sqlite but the web server doesn't boot up here is the error log mut...@iluvatar:~/apt-portal$ ./apt-portal.py

First contact with the community

2009-08-22 Thread nacer
Hi all, I am new to this mailing list. I am Nacer ADAMOU from Cameroon (central Africa) and python developer (part of my daily job of linux system and network engineer). I am interesting in the openmoko for more than six months (qemu simulator, I don't have a real freerunner) and decided to be

Re: First contact with the community

2009-08-22 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Hi there! Nice to hear and see new people entering the community! And it's great that you'll get your unit soon - it just makes more sense to devel with the unit, not with qemu as you can use the touchscreen, you feel the speed, accelerometers, everything. But it all depends on what do you want

[All] Status of the OM community

2009-08-22 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Hi there! After OM announced the discontinuation of the OM software development, there was this discussion about starting a foundation to support the community. What's the status? Any action taken? I feel like suffering from the unorganized community: the wiki is a mess, apps around are

[ALL] openbmap logger and quit (power, accidental close, etc...)

2009-08-22 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Hi, Yesterday night I did about 350 Km of scanning, and the phone was plugged to an USB car charger I bought (from TuxBrain). Unfortunately, even though the phone was in charging mode, it seems that while using the GPS is wastes more battery than the charger can give it, so even though it lasted

Re: Bugfix for #1024 (gsm modem re-camping) done

2009-08-22 Thread Fox Mulder
Hi, to be honest i just used the same place that Dieter Spaar used in his fix from [1]. But one problem i see with moving the cap directly beneath the existing one is the height. I used a 0805 10µF capacitor which could fit over the existing resistors but then there is not much space left between

Re: [ALL] openbmap logger and quit (power, accidental close, etc...)

2009-08-22 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/22/09, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org wrote: Hi, Yesterday night I did about 350 Km of scanning, and the phone was plugged to an USB car charger I bought (from TuxBrain). Unfortunately, even though the phone was in charging mode, it seems that while using the GPS is wastes more

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-22 Thread List for Openmoko community discussion
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 11:50:53AM +0200, Martin Jansa wrote: 3) opkg/deb or manuall installation instructions only in first phase when its unknown package from unknown developer :) 4) then community-editable list of distributions where it works/doesn't work. 5) same list with sign if its

Re: [ALL] openbmap logger and quit (power, accidental close, etc...)

2009-08-22 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 12:00:17PM +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: On 8/22/09, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org wrote: Hi, Yesterday night I did about 350 Km of scanning, and the phone was plugged to an USB car charger I bought (from TuxBrain). Unfortunately, even though the

Re: Hi

2009-08-22 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On 8/22/09, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: (and I know, others will recommend you other distros like SHR or Debian - but I was first :) On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiakseba.d...@gmail.com wrote: Few arguments for SHR over Om2009: more people working on it,

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-22 Thread Markus T�rnqvist
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 12:44:35PM +0200, Martin Jansa wrote: On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 04:45:00AM -0500, KaZeR wrote: One problem is that distro packaged apps sometimes lag way behind bleeding edge. e.g. : navit in SHR : r2309, navit via navit's feed : r2511 : that's quite a lot. I use

Re: Getting location info from cell tower

2009-08-22 Thread c_c
Hi, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: Except cell broadcast channel there is also something like Cell info (it was exposed in settings in my Nokia and Motorola phones), and it in some networks provide info about location and doesn't have such limitation as cell broadcasting. Is it possible

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-22 Thread Markus T�rnqvist
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 01:17:57AM +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: here is the error log mut...@iluvatar:~/apt-portal$ ./apt-portal.py playdeb /var/lib/python-support/python2.6/sqlalchemy/util.py:7: DeprecationWarning: the sets module is deprecated import inspect, itertools, new,

Re: Getting location info from cell tower

2009-08-22 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/22/09, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: Except cell broadcast channel there is also something like Cell info (it was exposed in settings in my Nokia and Motorola phones), and it in some networks provide info about location and doesn't have such

Re: [All] Status of the OM community

2009-08-22 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
Risto, My wish also would be that the (former) OM employees still around could rewrite/update the parts that concern OM the company in the wiki. Can you point me to some parts you would like to see updated? I'm not with the company anymore for 2 months, but maybe there are still some things I

Re: [all / linux] neo as gps unit?

2009-08-22 Thread Al Johnson
On Saturday 22 August 2009, Stroller wrote: On 21 Aug 2009, at 16:15, Al Johnson wrote: On Friday 21 August 2009, Olivier Migeot wrote: On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Helge Haftinghelge.haft...@hist.no wrote: Could that be the default configuration? That would also listen on ppp0.

Re: [da...@tuxbrain.com: Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps]

2009-08-22 Thread Joao Pinto
Hello, I am the apt-portal main developer and I hope I can help extending it to support your repository. About the recently reported error when starting the web server, please make sure you use the cherrypy version provided at getdeb, check : http://wiki.getdeb.net/apt-portal/Download The

Re: [All] Status of the OM community

2009-08-22 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Wolfgang Spraulwolfg...@qi-hardware.com wrote: Risto, My wish also would be that the (former) OM employees still around could rewrite/update the parts that concern OM the company in the wiki. Can you point me to some parts you would like to see updated? I'm

Re: [All] Status of the OM community

2009-08-22 Thread Marko Knöbl
My suggestion is to start with the cleanup of wiki: separate HW and SW, I have already tried to do this with Getting Started with your Neo 1973/Neo FreeRunner. The page Getting Started with your Neo FreeRunner is obsolete now. Now we have several manuals on the wiki, which are explicitly

Re: [All] Status of the OM community

2009-08-22 Thread Paul Fertser
Marko Knöbl openmoko.ma...@gmail.com writes: archive or delete outdated information, Some time ago I thought about this too. However this turned out to be problematic for me: Personally I often have problems to tell whether a page is up-to-date or not because I don't have enough knowledge in

Re: Hi

2009-08-22 Thread Roland Whitehead
I would recommend that you choose which ever distro keeps their how to make your Neo work as a phone for most of the time using this distro as well as running other standard services reliably wiki page up to date and by up to date I mean referring to which ever is the most useable

How does well does this community work?

2009-08-22 Thread Roland Whitehead
I am working with the 40 Fires Foundation [http://www.40fires.org] to try to build a framework for the development of open source hardware. You might have heard that the first project is the hyrban car - a car powered by a hydrogen fuel cell - the prototype of which was revealed by

Re: Screen in FR goes black and white after resume from suspend

2009-08-22 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
abatrour abatr...@gmail.com writes: RANJAN-3 wrote: The screen in my FR goes B/W with weird lines after it resumes from suspend.Got to know it is WSOD bug (or sometimes resumes in grey scale mode) .Well temporarily I can change the FR not to suspend but I have to do so after every

Re: How does well does this community work?

2009-08-22 Thread rixed
If you had the chance to build a community for the development of the Openmoko (hardware as well as software) what would you do and why? My 2 cents : I would open a mailing list _or_ a web forum but not both to avoid scattering people accross various medias. Also, maybe we should look for

[SHR testing] intone requires different e17 lib name

2009-08-22 Thread Marcel
G'evening, I'm fiddling with SHR (some way to get paroli on it? .) and found that the opkg.org intone 0.66 package is linked against libe*-ver-svn-02.so.0 sonames but SHR testing contains libe*-ver-pre-01.so.0 libs. Could you do another special SHR testing build? (Symlinking all of them to

Re: [SHR testing] intone requires different e17 lib name

2009-08-22 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/22/09, Marcel tan...@googlemail.com wrote: G'evening, I'm fiddling with SHR (some way to get paroli on it? .) and found that the opkg.org intone 0.66 package is linked against libe*-ver-svn-02.so.0 sonames but SHR testing contains libe*-ver-pre-01.so.0 libs. Could you do another special

Re: [SHR testing] intone requires different e17 lib name

2009-08-22 Thread Marcel
Am Samstag, den 22.08.2009, 20:48 +0200 schrieb Sebastian Krzyszkowiak: On 8/22/09, Marcel tan...@googlemail.com wrote: G'evening, I'm fiddling with SHR (some way to get paroli on it? .) and found that the opkg.org intone 0.66 package is linked against libe*-ver-svn-02.so.0 sonames but

Re: [SHR testing] intone requires different e17 lib name

2009-08-22 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/22/09, Marcel tan...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Samstag, den 22.08.2009, 20:48 +0200 schrieb Sebastian Krzyszkowiak: On 8/22/09, Marcel tan...@googlemail.com wrote: G'evening, I'm fiddling with SHR (some way to get paroli on it? .) and found that the opkg.org intone 0.66 package is

Re: Hi

2009-08-22 Thread levy santanna
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 07:10, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.comwrote: Few arguments for SHR over Om2009: more people working on it, develops Closer development ... is another characteristic of SHR regards, Levy. ___ Openmoko community

Re: Hi

2009-08-22 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/22/09, levy santanna levy.santa...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 07:10, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.comwrote: Few arguments for SHR over Om2009: more people working on it, develops Closer development ... is another characteristic of SHR regards, Levy.

Re: [ALL] openbmap logger and quit (power, accidental close, etc...)

2009-08-22 Thread Onen
Hi Rui, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 12:00:17PM +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: On 8/22/09, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org wrote: Yesterday night I did about 350 Km of scanning, and the phone was plugged to an USB car charger I bought (from TuxBrain).

Re: Android Donut on FreeRunner (was Re: Kernel Mode-Setting (KMS) on Neo FreeRunner + Debian)

2009-08-22 Thread Christopher Friedt
I'm definitely looking into getting in touch with Michael Trimarchi. I'm interested to see if he can get some of the libglamo / glamo-dri code to fit in with Android's GL implimentation. If that's the case, then the FreeRunner graphics might actually speed up a bit (not to mention how nice it

Re: Android Donut on FreeRunner (was Re: Kernel Mode-Setting (KMS) on Neo FreeRunner + Debian)

2009-08-22 Thread Chris Samuel
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 09:16:11 am Christopher Friedt wrote: I'm definitely looking into getting in touch with Michael Trimarchi. I'm interested to see if he can get some of the libglamo / glamo-dri code to fit in with Android's GL implimentation. He has two public git trees which seem to

Re: Android Donut on FreeRunner (was Re: Kernel Mode-Setting (KMS) on Neo FreeRunner + Debian)

2009-08-22 Thread Chris Samuel
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 09:16:11 am Christopher Friedt wrote: I'm definitely looking into getting in touch with Michael Trimarchi. Forgot to mention, he has been active on the Koolu android-freerunner list: http://android.koolu.org/listinfo.cgi/android-freerunner-koolu.org cheers, Chris --

Re: How does well does this community work?

2009-08-22 Thread Vasco Névoa
That's a though question, especially due to the differences between a car and a phone. :) When it comes to pure Community building, IMHO the leaders seem to be Ubuntu; so you should probably talk to Jono Bacon or read his book. ;) Regarding the Openmoko community, I think it works better now

Re: How does well does this community work?

2009-08-22 Thread Chris Samuel
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 03:27:20 am Roland Whitehead wrote: I am working with the 40 Fires Foundation [http://www.40fires.org] to try to build a framework for the development of open source hardware. You might have heard that the first project is the hyrban car - a car powered by a hydrogen

Re: Hi

2009-08-22 Thread levy santanna
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 17:26, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.comwrote: Closer? In sense less open? I wouldn't say that - for me it looks like SHR is the most community based (and open) distro out here... Yes, less open. How this distro development is done, today? regards, Levy.

Re: Hi

2009-08-22 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
Roland, Seeing that none of the distro's really do (seeing that they are produced by hackers who are mostly hacking for their own enjoyment it's not really surprising and you can't really blame the teams) I would agree, but what's your solution? The one idea I have is that maybe stable

Re: How does well does this community work?

2009-08-22 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
kind of off-topic but also check this as your sister-project: http://www.sahkoautot.fi/eng - A community took an Corolla and are converting it to an electric car. The plan is to release all specs to the public so anyone could do it. The content of the site is already cc-by-sa. r -- | risto h.