Re: Web site promoting open hardware?

[John Sullivan]

Stefan Monnier  writes:

> While looking for new hardware, I noticed that all the open hardware
> I know, I discovered it by accident while reading some mailing-list.
>
> Is there a web site somewhere that kind of centralizes this info to try
> and make it easier for openness-conscious consumers to find
> appropriate hardware?  Of course, there are various notions of "open
> hardware", so there might be parts of the site for hardware-hackers, for
> example, but I'm more interested in a web-site for end-users.  Also it
> might include hardware that is not itself open source, but where the
> company states a clear commitment to Free Software principles.
>
> I.e. a site that links to things like Openmoko, Qi, AlwaysInnovating,
> maybe Lemote, OpenPandora, ...
>
> Any hint?
>
>
> Stefan

http://groups.fsf.org/wiki/Freest_hardware_comparisons has been
developing for a bit.

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Re: Web site promoting open hardware?

[Richy]

One Question here. Under Openmoko - The bad it says:

"The basses are filtred on the headphones output...because of a capacitor
which value was too low(can't be fixed) "

What is the bassfix than? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_bass_fix

Maybe someone could correct the page.

On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 08:26, John Sullivan  wrote:

> Stefan Monnier  writes:
>
>
> http://groups.fsf.org/wiki/Freest_hardware_comparisons has been
> developing for a bit.
>
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Dbus api for gta2 accelerometers

[Ivo van den Maagdenberg]

Anyone able to show how to read out the accelerometers through d-bus? I
tried looking it up on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dbus_device_API but did
not find references to the accelerometers.

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer_data_retrieval is of course
valuable, but I'd like to learn the FSO way of doing things.
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Re: Dbus api for gta2 accelerometers

[Frederik Sdun]

* Ivo van den Maagdenberg  [12.09.2009 09:57]:
>Anyone able to show how to read out the accelerometers through d-bus? I
>tried looking it up on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dbus_device_API but
>did not find references to the accelerometers.
> 
>http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer_data_retrieval is of course
>valuable, but I'd like to learn the FSO way of doing things.
There is no DBus API for the accelerometers, because it throws up to 100
signals a second. That's too much for poor little Freerunner and it was
removed
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Re: Dbus api for gta2 accelerometers

[Michael 'Mickey' Lauer]

On Saturday 12 September 2009 09:56:08 Ivo van den Maagdenberg wrote:
> Anyone able to show how to read out the accelerometers through d-bus? I
> tried looking it up on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dbus_device_API but
> did not find references to the accelerometers.

What's your usecase? Since very recently, we provide 
http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.Device.Orientation.html;hb=HEAD

Perhaps this is enough for your usecase. It's not giving you the exact data 
though, since this -- as Frederik also mention -- would not give any benefit 
over the direct reading from the input event nodes, but also come with the 
rather severe disadvantage of additional CPU impact.

Btw., thanks for pointing at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dbus_device_API, I 
have completely removed this page and what links to it.

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Re: Dbus api for gta2 accelerometers

[Robin Paulson]

2009/9/12 Frederik Sdun :
> There is no DBus API for the accelerometers, because it throws up to 100
> signals a second. That's too much for poor little Freerunner and it was
> removed

at what point could the api handle the data? iirc, the data rate can
be set, so i'm guessing something more sensible would be usable?

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Re: Where can I buy miniUSB-m → USB-A-f adapters i n Canada?

[Robin Paulson]

2009/9/11 Brolin Empey :
> A few days ago, I was chatting with DocScrutinizer in #openmoko on FreeNode
> about using a USB → Ethernet adapter to connect my FreeRunner directly to my
> Ethernet LAN.  DocScrutinizer told me I need a miniUSB-m → USB-A-f adapter
> or a cable like this:

i bought a female to female adapter on my local auction site for about
$4 and use it with conventional usb cables; i'm sure ebay will have
something similar. hard to search for though, you might have to do a
lot of browsing through usb categories

also, if you're after a usb ethernet device, i got one from ledshoppe
for next to nothing

http://ledshoppe.com/Product/com/CA3005.htm

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Re: Contacts from Nokia N70 to opimd with PISI: no phone field

[Sebastian Krzyszkowiak]

On 9/12/09, Nicola Mfb  wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Michael Pilgermann 
> wrote:
>> In fact, it even is default already.
>>
>> However, it is not the standard way of storing phone number information
>> (if you look around at other backends) - so I decided to leave it up to
>> the user.
>
> Uh! I just gived it a try but not digged about standards.
> Please Michael may you elaborate a bit about that?
> And please Sebastian/FSO team, if you are not following a standard and
> are just creating a new one may you point why the "old" standard is
> bad?
>
> Nicola

opimd uses standard URI notation, not just plain phone number, as
"Phone" field can have also SIP and other references, not only GSM.
There is no such thing as "new standard". I'm just saying "use URI,
not plain number". In the same way use "http://www.openmoko.org/"; in
"Website" field instead of "www.openmoko.org", as it can be also https
(or some exotic protocol), not only http.

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Re: Dbus api for gta2 accelerometers

[Frederik Sdun]

* Robin Paulson  [12.09.2009 13:31]:
> 2009/9/12 Frederik Sdun :
> > There is no DBus API for the accelerometers, because it throws up to 100
> > signals a second. That's too much for poor little Freerunner and it was
> > removed
> 
> at what point could the api handle the data? iirc, the data rate can
> be set, so i'm guessing something more sensible would be usable?
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there's a ex GSoC project on [1], which uses gesture recognition, but it
is not integrated into fso. Maybe someone can look into the code and
integrate this into FSO. there's even a video on youtube [2] with a
proof of concept.

[1] http://code.google.com/p/accelges/
[2] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2S2rQUETwc
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Re: QtMoko - howto migrate from one partition to another?

[Torfinn Ingolfsen]

Hi,

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 4:33 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote:

>
> Just be careful to only backup the partition's own files.  I.e. use
> the --one-file-system argument.  Otherwise you might start copying /sys,
> /proc and that will get you into trouble.
>
> I mounted /dev/mmcblk0p3 on /mnt, and did 'cp -Rpvx /  /mnt'
Now I just need to find out how to boot from p3 with Qi, I thought That
presding the AUX button while the LED was red should do it, but so far that
doesn't want to work for me.

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Re: QtMoko - howto migrate from one partition to another?

[Matthias Huber]

Torfinn Ingolfsen schrieb:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 4:33 AM, Stefan Monnier
> mailto:monn...@iro.umontreal.ca>> wrote:
>
>
> Just be careful to only backup the partition's own files.  I.e. use
> the --one-file-system argument.  Otherwise you might start copying
> /sys,
> /proc and that will get you into trouble.
>
> I mounted /dev/mmcblk0p3 on /mnt, and did 'cp -Rpvx /  /mnt'
> Now I just need to find out how to boot from p3 with Qi, I thought
> That presding the AUX button while the LED was red should do it, but
> so far that doesn't want to work for me.
>
i make my backups always with rsync on the mmc.

but with the real rsync, not with busybox.

here is my script:

#!/bin/sh -x
cd /
rsync -avulH --del --exclude=/home/root/Maps --exclude=boot/*
--exclude=Maps/* --exclude=sicherung/* --exclude=media/* --exclude=sys/*
--exclude=dev/* --exclude=proc/* * /media/disk/shr/
2>/media/disk/sicherung/fehler.txt

echo errors are in /media/disk/sicherung/fehler.txt

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Qi - how do I make it boot from another partition on the SD card?

[Torfinn Ingolfsen]

Hi,

I use Qi as the bootloader on my FreeRunner.
I have sevaral partitions on my SDcard:
p1 - vfat data partition (only data, nothing else)
p2 - ext3 primary partition, this is my main os. Currently holds QtMoko v8)
p3 - this is aother ext3 primary partition, for me to keep a backup os on.
Currently, it holds a copy of QtMoko v8.
p4 - swap, 128Megs

First I thought that the "press AUX" trick from the Qi wiki page would let
me select which partition to boot from, but it seems like it only selects
kernel, so not useful for me in this situation.

Then I read about the /boot/noboot-GTA02 file, so I did 'touch
/boot/noboot-GTA02' (when /dev/mmcblk0p2 was my root partition).
Now Qi skips the p2 partition, but after that  it justs sits therr, it won't
boot the p3 partition.

What can be wrong?
And how do I fix it?
(I have checked, and the files in  /boot and elsehwere looks correct)

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Re: Qi - how do I make it boot from another partition on the SD card?

[David Reyes Samblas Martinez]

can you post the list of files on p3?, also the contents of append-GTA02

2009/9/12 Torfinn Ingolfsen :
> Hi,
>
> I use Qi as the bootloader on my FreeRunner.
> I have sevaral partitions on my SDcard:
> p1 - vfat data partition (only data, nothing else)
> p2 - ext3 primary partition, this is my main os. Currently holds QtMoko v8)
> p3 - this is aother ext3 primary partition, for me to keep a backup os on.
> Currently, it holds a copy of QtMoko v8.
> p4 - swap, 128Megs
>
> First I thought that the "press AUX" trick from the Qi wiki page would let
> me select which partition to boot from, but it seems like it only selects
> kernel, so not useful for me in this situation.
>
> Then I read about the /boot/noboot-GTA02 file, so I did 'touch
> /boot/noboot-GTA02' (when /dev/mmcblk0p2 was my root partition).
> Now Qi skips the p2 partition, but after that  it justs sits therr, it won't
> boot the p3 partition.
>
> What can be wrong?
> And how do I fix it?
> (I have checked, and the files in  /boot and elsehwere looks correct)
>
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Re: Qi - how do I make it boot from another partition on the SD card?

[David Reyes Samblas Martinez]

I'm talking about the files on /boot of p3 partition not whole files list :)

2009/9/12 David Reyes Samblas Martinez :
> can you post the list of files on p3?, also the contents of append-GTA02
>
> 2009/9/12 Torfinn Ingolfsen :
>> Hi,
>>
>> I use Qi as the bootloader on my FreeRunner.
>> I have sevaral partitions on my SDcard:
>> p1 - vfat data partition (only data, nothing else)
>> p2 - ext3 primary partition, this is my main os. Currently holds QtMoko v8)
>> p3 - this is aother ext3 primary partition, for me to keep a backup os on.
>> Currently, it holds a copy of QtMoko v8.
>> p4 - swap, 128Megs
>>
>> First I thought that the "press AUX" trick from the Qi wiki page would let
>> me select which partition to boot from, but it seems like it only selects
>> kernel, so not useful for me in this situation.
>>
>> Then I read about the /boot/noboot-GTA02 file, so I did 'touch
>> /boot/noboot-GTA02' (when /dev/mmcblk0p2 was my root partition).
>> Now Qi skips the p2 partition, but after that  it justs sits therr, it won't
>> boot the p3 partition.
>>
>> What can be wrong?
>> And how do I fix it?
>> (I have checked, and the files in  /boot and elsehwere looks correct)
>>
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>> Torfinn Ingolfsen
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Re: Qi - how do I make it boot from another partition on the SD card?

[Torfinn Ingolfsen]

Hi,


On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 4:33 PM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez <
da...@tuxbrain.com> wrote:

> I'm talking about the files on /boot of p3 partition not whole files list
> :)
>

Here goes:

neo:~# mount /dev/mmcblk0p3 /mnt
neo:~# ls -l /mnt/boot
total 1844
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  36 Aug  4 14:50 append-GTA02
-rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 1877704 Aug 27 21:42 uImage-GTA02.bin
neo:~# more /mnt/boot/append-GTA02
console=tty0 loglevel=3 rootdelay=1

Everything is a copy off p2 o I don't undertsnad why it doesn't work.
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Re: OT: Where can I meet a female companion with similar interests and personality /in person/?

[Ben Wong]

Hello Brolin,

Wow.  That's quite a bit of information.

I have many thoughts about your specific endeavours, moving out,
priority inversion, social anxiety, finding a geek girl, but I think
there may be a broader, more important goal that you're missing.  It
occurs to me that you may find it helpful to learn moderation and
appreciation of imperfection.  Western culture doesn't have a long
tradition of doing that, so I recommend studying Eastern philosophies.
 Particularly, Buddhism, wabisabi, and mindfulness meditation.

Mindfulness meditation is the art of focusing one's mind on what is
actually present now and letting go of thoughts.  For example, try
sitting still and just paying attention to the sensations in your
body, such as your breath going in and out, without thinking, without
judging.  It's a lot harder than it sounds, but it is a skill that can
be learned, and it can be valuable for people like us who can get lost
in our "head-space".

--Ben


On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Brolin Empey  wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> Like most of the members of this list (AFAICT from the first names I
> recognise as sex/gender-specific), I am male.  I am 22 and still live with
> my parents.  I have never lived away from my parents.  I am planning to hire
> a support worker to help me live away from my parents (I have another
> meeting later today) because I continue to indefinitely defer trying to live
> away from my parents.  I named my form of procrastination “priority
> inversion” because what is, in practical terms, my lowest priority, becomes
> my highest priority.  For example, I choose to spend my free time playing
> with my computers, including my FreeRunner, instead of learning about human
> biology and/or nutrition, which will affect me every day of my life, and at
> least trying to live away from my parents.  When I say I play with my
> computers, I do not mean gaming:  I almost never play games anymore.  Even
> when I decide I want to play a game again, I spend all of my time reading
> about games, viewing screenshots and videos, and trying to decide which of
> the endless games I should play (or rather, obtain if I do not already have
> a copy and make work on my PC) instead of actually playing a game.  I feel
> like I am always overwhelmed and/or overloaded with information and
> stimulation in the Too Much Information Age.  I always feel like the NET
> Effect is that there is Never Enough Time because time flies faster than
> ever because I am always overthinking, overwhelmed with overchoice, etc.  I
> recognise my mind is a word and pattern recognition engine, which is
> constantly adding new stimulations/experiences to its database.  I have
> Asperger’s Syndrome, but can function much better, at least in terms of
> interacting with people in person, than when I was in high school, for
> example.  I used to often feel like I had social anxiety disorder because I
> would get so anxious and/or worried even when calling someone on the phone
> (on my parents’s landline because I did not have a cell phone until 2008)
> that I could not speak clearly enough for the person on the other end to
> understand me, so I would always have to repeat myself at least once for
> every turn of the conversation.  I am a purist and have been called the most
> pedantic person in the world by Jamie Zawinski, of Lucid Emacs/XEmacs and
> Netscape/Mozilla fame. :)  Imprecise usage and redundancy bothers me even if
> know what is meant from the context.  For example, I am bothered by people
> mentioning a “standard” transmission in a vehicle (it is a manual
> transmission.  Standard depends on the vehicle.  Automatic is standard for
> some vehicles.), calling an LCD monitor (a flat panel) a “flat screen”
> (high-end CRTs have flat glass too!), common redundancies, such as PIN
> number, ATM machine, LCD display, people who assume all cars use crappy
> gasoline engines and use fuel-specific terms, such as gas station (it is a
> service station), gas tank (it is a fuel tank), gas pedal (it is an
> accellerator), gas pump (I have used a diesel pump at Shell that told me to
> “select octane” instead of “select ctane” (sp?) or “select fuel grade”.  My
> car has a diesel, not gasoline, engine.  I have been highly influenced by my
> father, Brian Empey.  Brian is a Professional Engineer (Electrical
> Engineering).  He founded Technical Solutions Inc. (Techsol) in 1996 with
> his second wife (my step-mom), Karen Empey (nee Schellenberg).  Techsol is
> an embedded computer hardware company specialising in Linux on ARM
> architecture.  I am very fortunate to be able to work at Techsol.  I am a
> Linux + Windows System Administrator/Web master/IT person/general computer
> person.  I think my responsibiles are more important than my title(s).  I
> know I am very dependent on my parents, but at least I own my own car (which
> I bought from my dad), have a Class 7 driver’s licence (the Novice stage of
> the Graduated Licensing Program in 

Re: QtMoko images V9

[Torfinn Ingolfsen]

Hi,

On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Radek Polak  wrote:

> Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
>
> > Question: is it possible to upgrade from v8 somehow, or do we need to
> > perform a complete reinstall of the v9 images?
>
> You can download the tar.gz, replace kernel, modules and whole /opt
> directory. That should be enough IIRC.
>
> In the end, I chose to install frsh. So I just did  a new mkfs on my p2
partition, and took it from there.  I realized I didn't have any data on it
anyway. :-)
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Re: OT: Where can I meet a female companion with similar interests and personality /in person/?

[Michael Fisher]

Maybe this can close this off-topic thread. Here is a geek free dating
service.
http://www.plentyoffish.com/?dating=1freqani&gclid=CJaHrpu_7JwCFVhh2godJDz1kg



On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Ben Wong wrote:

> Hello Brolin,
>
> Wow.  That's quite a bit of information.
>
> I have many thoughts about your specific endeavours, moving out,
> priority inversion, social anxiety, finding a geek girl, but I think
> there may be a broader, more important goal that you're missing.  It
> occurs to me that you may find it helpful to learn moderation and
> appreciation of imperfection.  Western culture doesn't have a long
> tradition of doing that, so I recommend studying Eastern philosophies.
>  Particularly, Buddhism, wabisabi, and mindfulness meditation.
>
> Mindfulness meditation is the art of focusing one's mind on what is
> actually present now and letting go of thoughts.  For example, try
> sitting still and just paying attention to the sensations in your
> body, such as your breath going in and out, without thinking, without
> judging.  It's a lot harder than it sounds, but it is a skill that can
> be learned, and it can be valuable for people like us who can get lost
> in our "head-space".
>
> --Ben
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Brolin Empey  wrote:
> > Hello list,
> >
> > Like most of the members of this list (AFAICT from the first names I
> > recognise as sex/gender-specific), I am male.  I am 22 and still live
> with
> > my parents.  I have never lived away from my parents.  I am planning to
> hire
> > a support worker to help me live away from my parents (I have another
> > meeting later today) because I continue to indefinitely defer trying to
> live
> > away from my parents.  I named my form of procrastination “priority
> > inversion” because what is, in practical terms, my lowest priority,
> becomes
> > my highest priority.  For example, I choose to spend my free time playing
> > with my computers, including my FreeRunner, instead of learning about
> human
> > biology and/or nutrition, which will affect me every day of my life, and
> at
> > least trying to live away from my parents.  When I say I play with my
> > computers, I do not mean gaming:  I almost never play games anymore.
> Even
> > when I decide I want to play a game again, I spend all of my time reading
> > about games, viewing screenshots and videos, and trying to decide which
> of
> > the endless games I should play (or rather, obtain if I do not already
> have
> > a copy and make work on my PC) instead of actually playing a game.  I
> feel
> > like I am always overwhelmed and/or overloaded with information and
> > stimulation in the Too Much Information Age.  I always feel like the NET
> > Effect is that there is Never Enough Time because time flies faster than
> > ever because I am always overthinking, overwhelmed with overchoice, etc.
> I
> > recognise my mind is a word and pattern recognition engine, which is
> > constantly adding new stimulations/experiences to its database.  I have
> > Asperger’s Syndrome, but can function much better, at least in terms of
> > interacting with people in person, than when I was in high school, for
> > example.  I used to often feel like I had social anxiety disorder because
> I
> > would get so anxious and/or worried even when calling someone on the
> phone
> > (on my parents’s landline because I did not have a cell phone until 2008)
> > that I could not speak clearly enough for the person on the other end to
> > understand me, so I would always have to repeat myself at least once for
> > every turn of the conversation.  I am a purist and have been called the
> most
> > pedantic person in the world by Jamie Zawinski, of Lucid Emacs/XEmacs and
> > Netscape/Mozilla fame. :)  Imprecise usage and redundancy bothers me even
> if
> > know what is meant from the context.  For example, I am bothered by
> people
> > mentioning a “standard” transmission in a vehicle (it is a manual
> > transmission.  Standard depends on the vehicle.  Automatic is standard
> for
> > some vehicles.), calling an LCD monitor (a flat panel) a “flat screen”
> > (high-end CRTs have flat glass too!), common redundancies, such as PIN
> > number, ATM machine, LCD display, people who assume all cars use crappy
> > gasoline engines and use fuel-specific terms, such as gas station (it is
> a
> > service station), gas tank (it is a fuel tank), gas pedal (it is an
> > accellerator), gas pump (I have used a diesel pump at Shell that told me
> to
> > “select octane” instead of “select ctane” (sp?) or “select fuel grade”.
> My
> > car has a diesel, not gasoline, engine.  I have been highly influenced by
> my
> > father, Brian Empey.  Brian is a Professional Engineer (Electrical
> > Engineering).  He founded Technical Solutions Inc. (Techsol) in 1996 with
> > his second wife (my step-mom), Karen Empey (nee Schellenberg).  Techsol
> is
> > an embedded comput

Re: Dbus api for gta2 accelerometers

[Ivo van den Maagdenberg]

2009/9/12 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer 

> On Saturday 12 September 2009 09:56:08 Ivo van den Maagdenberg wrote:
> > Anyone able to show how to read out the accelerometers through d-bus? I
> > tried looking it up on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dbus_device_API but
> > did not find references to the accelerometers.
>
> What's your usecase? Since very recently, we provide
>
> http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.Device.Orientation.html;hb=HEAD
>
> The use case is as follows: take the openmoko and make it a cycleway shock
measuring platform, utilizing the accelerometers. So, direct reads from the
are going to be needed. The gps unit is of course of interest to make the
measurements location-based.

I am not yet up to speed with the fso stack. Is it possible to explain why
the fso direction to read out data from the accelerometers was abandoned? I
could understand the argument that constantly reading out the accelerometers
would hog the cpu and probably would also drain the battery very easily too.
Switching the readout on and off through by fso interface command and
reading them out would be a natural thing to have, but as said, I have not
implemented a single line of code in the fso domain :)
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Re: Dbus api for gta2 accelerometers

[Michael 'Mickey' Lauer]

On Saturday 12 September 2009 19:50:26 Ivo van den Maagdenberg wrote:
> 2009/9/12 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer 
>
> > On Saturday 12 September 2009 09:56:08 Ivo van den Maagdenberg wrote:
> > > Anyone able to show how to read out the accelerometers through d-bus? I
> > > tried looking it up on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dbus_device_API
> > > but did not find references to the accelerometers.
> >
> > What's your usecase? Since very recently, we provide
> >
> > http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesm
> >artphone.Device.Orientation.html;hb=HEAD
> >
> > The use case is as follows: take the openmoko and make it a cycleway
> > shock
>
> measuring platform, utilizing the accelerometers. So, direct reads from the
> are going to be needed.

Excellent, very valid usecase, but not for 
org.freesmartphone.Device.Orientation. As I've said multiple times, for real-
time data, you better read the accelerometers by directly querying the input 
event nodes.

> I am not yet up to speed with the fso stack. Is it possible to explain why
> the fso direction to read out data from the accelerometers was abandoned?

It was not abandoned, it has never been provided. (Ok, that's not 100% true. 
In fact, we had an experimental plugin for that but that consumed so much CPU 
time that it made the whole system crawl and was never used).

:M:


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Re: Web site promoting open hardware?

[Stefan Monnier]

> what would drive someone to this site/list and what are the criteria people
> are looking for?

The main reason is to provide financial support to companies that
support my ideals rather than to those that undermine them.


Stefan


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Re: Contacts from Nokia N70 to opimd with PISI: no phone field

[Vadim, Efimov]

Hi! Thanks for PISI!

On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:55:53 +0400, Michael Pilgermann   
wrote:

> This got fixed.
> Will be in the next release.

In 0.4.6 i have new strange behavior: "Other" field (from SE phone) still  
missing,
but PISI seems copy from
TEL;TYPE=VOICE:+7** or TEL:+7**
to
TEL;TYPE=CELL:+7**
and overwrite previous number, if exist in vCard
Why not add just "Phone" field? opimd-contacts from SHR display it.


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Re: QtMoko - how do I get WiFi working?

[Torfinn Ingolfsen]

Ok, now I am testing wireless with the QtMoko  v9 nimage.

r...@neo:/home/root# wpa_supplicant
-c/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -ieth0
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-RESULTS
No network configuration found for the current AP
ioctl[SIOCSIWMLME]: Operation not supported
WPA: No SSID info found (msg 1 of 4).
WPA: No SSID info found (msg 1 of 4).
WPA: No SSID info found (msg 1 of 4).
WPA: No SSID info found (msg 1 of 4).
No network configuration found for the current AP
ioctl[SIOCSIWMLME]: Operation not supported
WPA: No SSID info found (msg 1 of 4).
WPA: No SSID info found (msg 1 of 4).
WPA: No SSID info found (msg 1 of 4).
WPA: No SSID info found (msg 1 of 4).
CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-RESULTS
Trying to associate with 00:0f:66:51:aa:41 (SSID='kg4' freq=2417 MHz)
Associated with 00:0f:66:51:aa:41
Associated with 00:0f:66:51:aa:41
Authentication with 00:0f:66:51:aa:41 timed out.
ioctl[SIOCSIWMLME]: Operation not supported
Associated with 00:0f:66:51:aa:41
Associated with 00:0f:66:51:aa:41
CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-RESULTS
Trying to associate with 00:0f:66:51:aa:41 (SSID='kg4' freq=2417 MHz)
Associated with 00:0f:66:51:aa:41
^CCTRL-EVENT-TERMINATING - signal 2 received

Do I have to manually start udhcpc?
Or does wpa_supplicant fix that too?

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Torfinn Ingolfsen
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Re: QtMoko - how do I get WiFi working?

[Ronald Tallent]

Short answer, yes.

If you haven't already you should probably check out:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=manually+using
+wifi&go=Go

Ron


On Sun, 2009-09-13 at 01:58 +0200, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
> Ok, now I am testing wireless with the QtMoko  v9 nimage.
> 
> r...@neo:/home/root# wpa_supplicant
> -c/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -ieth0
> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
> CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-RESULTS 
> No network configuration found for the current AP
> ioctl[SIOCSIWMLME]: Operation not supported
> WPA: No SSID info found (msg 1 of 4).
> WPA: No SSID info found (msg 1 of 4).
> WPA: No SSID info found (msg 1 of 4).
> WPA: No SSID info found (msg 1 of 4).
> No network configuration found for the current AP
> ioctl[SIOCSIWMLME]: Operation not supported
> WPA: No SSID info found (msg 1 of 4).
> WPA: No SSID info found (msg 1 of 4).
> WPA: No SSID info found (msg 1 of 4).
> WPA: No SSID info found (msg 1 of 4).
> CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-RESULTS 
> Trying to associate with 00:0f:66:51:aa:41 (SSID='kg4' freq=2417 MHz)
> Associated with 00:0f:66:51:aa:41
> Associated with 00:0f:66:51:aa:41
> Authentication with 00:0f:66:51:aa:41 timed out.
> ioctl[SIOCSIWMLME]: Operation not supported
> Associated with 00:0f:66:51:aa:41
> Associated with 00:0f:66:51:aa:41
> CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-RESULTS 
> Trying to associate with 00:0f:66:51:aa:41 (SSID='kg4' freq=2417 MHz)
> Associated with 00:0f:66:51:aa:41
> ^CCTRL-EVENT-TERMINATING - signal 2 received
> 
> Do I have to manually start udhcpc?
> Or does wpa_supplicant fix that too?
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> Torfinn Ingolfsen
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