Re: [Qi - SHR-U/All?] Pink line of death

2009-10-04 Thread Christ van Willegen
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Stuart Pullinger s...@elec.gla.ac.uk wrote:
 Has anyone seen the 'pink line of death' at any time?

 Yes. I've seen it.

 I've seen this bug but I also cannot reproduce it right now. I think it
 happens when I change orientation whilst suspending or whilst waking up
 from suspend (using current SHR-unstable and OMNewRotate).

 I'm suspending and waking rotating my phone right now and cannot
 reproduce it. Maybe it's been fixed ;^)

Nope, I reproduced it yesterday evening...

I also have OMNewRotate installed, and I suspect it has to do with
this behaviour.

I'll try to reproduce it again, I am at a PC right now ;-)

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[SHR-U] Suggestion for screen lock

2009-10-04 Thread Christ van Willegen
Hello everyone!

Whenever I press AUX, the screen gets locked (as it should be...).
But, whenever something touches the screen, it lights up again.

When I go for a hike, with Navit running to get a nice OSM track, I am
unable to pocket my FR, because the screen keeps lighting up.

Would it be possible to add functionality to the AUX press, so that if
I hold it for a second or 2, the 'light up on screen touch' gets
disabled as well?

Christ van Willegen

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Re: [Qi - SHR-U/All?] Pink line of death

2009-10-04 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Sun, Oct 04, 2009 at 10:49:47AM +0200, Christ van Willegen wrote:
 On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Stuart Pullinger s...@elec.gla.ac.uk wrote:
  Has anyone seen the 'pink line of death' at any time?
 
  Yes. I've seen it.
 
  I've seen this bug but I also cannot reproduce it right now. I think it
  happens when I change orientation whilst suspending or whilst waking up
  from suspend (using current SHR-unstable and OMNewRotate).
 
  I'm suspending and waking rotating my phone right now and cannot
  reproduce it. Maybe it's been fixed ;^)
 
 Nope, I reproduced it yesterday evening...
 
 I also have OMNewRotate installed, and I suspect it has to do with
 this behaviour.

At most it has to do with yet another glamo bug, but frequently it
happens to me in a straight position (eg, laying on table and turning
on), but since I fortunately have OMNewRotate as I turn it it gets
fixed.

Rui

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Re: New version of sgt-puzzles, and a launcher for it

2009-10-04 Thread Yorick Moko
nice!
I like the launcher!

On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 7:12 AM, EdorFaus edorf...@xepher.net wrote:

 Hi,

 I finally got some time to set everything up for these things.

 A new version of sgt-puzzles is now in the repository[1], and also uploaded
 on
 opkg.org[2]. There's now a new homepage[3] for it, and the code (for the
 build
 system, patches etc) is available in svn[4].

 This package includes a shell script that lets users disable/enable
 individual
 desktop icons, making it possible to reduce the number even without
 installing
 a launcher. It also includes some basic support for launchers,
 automatically
 removing the desktop icons when a compatible launcher is installed, except
 those icons that have been explicitly enabled (so you can have both a
 launcher, and your favorite games on the desktop for quick access).

 More details on the homepage[3].


 I've also created such a launcher, and packaged it separately. It is fairly
 simple, just displays a grid of plain buttons, but space is so limited due
 to
 the number of games that I'm not sure how to fit anything more fancy
 anyway.

 If someone wants to make a better launcher, there are details for the
 interaction between them on the homepage[3].

 The launcher is also available in the repository[1] and on opkg.org[5],
 source
 is in an svn repo[6], and it has its own homepage[7] with more information.

 To make it easier to discover the launcher, the sgt-puzzles package
 suggests
 it - opkg apparently mentions suggestions when installing the package. :)


 One thing I haven't gotten the launcher to do yet, is single-instancing the
 games. I'm not sure what the best approach for that would be - looking for
 open X windows? looking for running processes? is there a standard way of
 doing this, that would work here? (keep in mind the launcher doesn't stay
 running after selecting a game, so looking at the process tree doesn't
 help.)
 On the other hand I'm not sure how important it is, either.


 [1] http://ipk.edorfaus.info/armv4t
 [2] http://www.opkg.org/package_283.html
 [3] http://om.edorfaus.info/sgt-puzzles/
 [4] http://svn.edorfaus.info/om/sgt-puzzles/trunk
 [5] http://www.opkg.org/package_286.html
 [6] http://svn.edorfaus.info/om/sgt-puzzles-launcher/trunk
 [7] http://om.edorfaus.info/sgt-puzzles/launcher/

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Increasing GPS accuracy with EGNOS

2009-10-04 Thread Yorick Moko
Hi all,

http://www.esa.int/esaNA/SEM2HGF280G_egnos_0.html

The European Union has opened its Egnos navigation augmentation system for
public use:

The EGNOS signals can be received by GPS receivers equipped with a specific
software. In combination with Egnos signals, the accuracy of GPS navigation
can be improved significantly; according to ESA, users can navigate with an
accuracy of about 2 meters as opposed to GPS alone which provides an
accuracy of 10 meters.



Seems interesting...
(some more information: http://www.egnos-pro.esa.int/index.html)

y
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Re: Internal pressure sensor

2009-10-04 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 06:04:30PM -0400, tom wrote:
 actually i think they should already be built in...they are so cheap...

   Depends on what you mean when you say cheap. I see it listed at just
under USD 10 for one sensor or the price of a 1.3 mpix camera module. It's
also not as small as you would like for something you throw in mostly for
fun.

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Re: Paroli Theme/UI proposals

2009-10-04 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
I wouldn't mind to have a separate theme with great contrast, large
buttons etc. One theme doesn't have to suite everyone...


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Re: Internal pressure sensor

2009-10-04 Thread Stroller

On 4 Oct 2009, at 14:02, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen wrote:

 On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 06:04:30PM -0400, tom wrote:
 actually i think they should already be built in...they are so  
 cheap...

   Depends on what you mean when you say cheap. I see it listed at just
 under USD 10 for one sensor or the price of a 1.3 mpix camera  
 module. It's
 also not as small as you would like for something you throw in  
 mostly for
 fun.

Is the 1.3 mpix camera module also $10 for a single unit? That seems  
remarkably good value.

One would expect a pressure sensor to be much cheaper on the 1000, of  
course.

Stroller.


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Re: Broken Freerunner.. CPU stall messages.. repairable?

2009-10-04 Thread Thomas Franck
Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
 CPU stall? Leave FR turned on for few hours on that message. About
 half year ago I have few times the same problem, and leaving it for 10
 minutes helped for me. And I still don't know, what was the cause of
 that ;x

Sadly, it didn't help me.. :( it just goes on and on with the CPU stall
messages... let it do it for hours..

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Re: Internal pressure sensor

2009-10-04 Thread tom
well, my thought was just: marketshare. more features out of the box  more
customers  more competition.

and i dont think 10$ make adifference, not yet talking about
largeqty-volumes.  eg rfid: nokia announces it since years, but FR could be
fo fast...im sorry, maybe im just to optimistic...

regs


On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.ukwrote:


 On 4 Oct 2009, at 14:02, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen wrote:

  On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 06:04:30PM -0400, tom wrote:
  actually i think they should already be built in...they are so
  cheap...
 
Depends on what you mean when you say cheap. I see it listed at just
  under USD 10 for one sensor or the price of a 1.3 mpix camera
  module. It's
  also not as small as you would like for something you throw in
  mostly for
  fun.

 Is the 1.3 mpix camera module also $10 for a single unit? That seems
 remarkably good value.

 One would expect a pressure sensor to be much cheaper on the 1000, of
 course.

 Stroller.


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Re: Internal pressure sensor

2009-10-04 Thread Christoph Mair
Am Sonntag 04 Oktober 2009 17:14:43 schrieben Sie:
 eg rfid: nokia announces it since years, but FR could be
 fo fast...im sorry, maybe im just to optimistic...
I was thinking about adding a rfid reader but could not find an antenna which 
is 
small enough. Probably there were other problems too..

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Re: Internal pressure sensor

2009-10-04 Thread tom
well, there are always roadblocks, but there is always a waz around them.
unfortunately im not a electric-engineer, otherwise i would jump onto that.
but i can tell out of experience, the (current) future relies on that.
gettin rif of those stupid hanheld scanners etc would be way easier 4
everyone. and utilizing it as a boradband device makes it even more
attractive...there are no boundaries.
@antenna:
as far as i know, it depnds on the capabilities of the chip. eg writing and
or  reading , range etc...
 why not starting simple? meaning with the most simple chip?

regs


On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Christoph Mair m...@chonyota.net wrote:

 Am Sonntag 04 Oktober 2009 17:14:43 schrieben Sie:
  eg rfid: nokia announces it since years, but FR could be
  fo fast...im sorry, maybe im just to optimistic...
 I was thinking about adding a rfid reader but could not find an antenna
 which is
 small enough. Probably there were other problems too..

 Christoph

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Re: New version of sgt-puzzles, and a launcher for it

2009-10-04 Thread EdorFaus
On Sunday 04 October 2009 12:03:36 Yorick Moko wrote:
 nice!
 I like the launcher!

 On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 7:12 AM, EdorFaus edorf...@xepher.net wrote:
  I've also created such a launcher, and packaged it separately. It is

Thank you! :)

It's nice to hear it wasn't a waste of time to make it.


I guess that the next thing I do with this, is try to make some more of the 
games touchscreen-friendly (or at least friendlier). I'll have to find some 
time in which to do that first though, so can't really promise anything.

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Re: Paroli Theme/UI proposals

2009-10-04 Thread Jon Kristian Nilsen
Ok, I feel I have to say this now:

Guys, you *cannot* take my proposal and expect it to look cute when you
re-size and fit them in a phone window, there's a reason this is a mock-up.
I think all areas in my proposal are more than readable, have you compared
to android or iphone for instance? I don't want to start a flamewar here,
but people are really jumping up over my mock-ups, expecting them to be more
than they are.

Also, I belive this is not exactly something that a theme should handle! For
instance font-sizes should imho be adjustable by the app, not locked to a
theme.

Now, when this is said, step 1 is finished and I am now moving on to the
second step, providing vectorised variants of elements that will be used.

I am really happy about all the awesome feedback this has gotten, and that
people have shown interest in moving it to the next level.

Look for new ML post when I got more stuff finished.
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Re: Internal pressure sensor

2009-10-04 Thread Stroller

On 4 Oct 2009, at 16:14, tom wrote:

  On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 06:04:30PM -0400, tom wrote:
  actually i think they should already be built in...they are so
  cheap...
 
Depends on what you mean when you say cheap. I see it listed at  
 just
  under USD 10 for one sensor or the price of a 1.3 mpix camera
  module. It's
  also not as small as you would like for something you throw in
  mostly for
  fun.

 Is the 1.3 mpix camera module also $10 for a single unit? That seems
 remarkably good value.

 One would expect a pressure sensor to be much cheaper on the 1000, of
 course.

 well, my thought was just: marketshare. more features out of the box  
  more customers  more competition.

 and i dont think 10$ make adifference, not yet talking about  
 largeqty-volumes.  eg rfid: nokia announces it since years, but FR  
 could be fo fast...im sorry, maybe im just to optimistic...

1) Please don't top-post in reply to a bottom-post. It makes the flow  
of the conversation difficult to read.

2) Please don't post to the list in HTML. Plain-text is preferable.



3) The costs of production were discussed a LOT on this list in the  
past, when the Openmoko team was still active. To be honest, even if  
the component is only $1 then it may be too expensive, as many more  
design and testing costs are added to the total production cost by the  
addition of the component.

Customers will be dissatisfied if it doesn't work as expected. A large  
increase in market share is needed to make the addition worthwhile.  
Therefore the addition of a camera may be worthwhile, whereas the  
addition of a barometric sensor is not.

However a camera requires retooling of the Freerunner's case, a  
surprisingly cost-prohibitive change. I think the cost of creating a  
new case for the Freerunner is considerably more than $10,000. I would  
imagine that a camera requires other components to make it work and is  
more complex from the design point of view. There have historically  
been two major complaints about the Freerunner - lack of a camera and  
of 3G. Either might enlarge its market share considerably, but both  
were rejected on cost grounds.

This barometer is self-contained and connected to the i2c bus, a  
_relatively_ simple addition. If there is demand for the barometer -  
although I'm inclined to agree with Rask that there wouldn't be - then  
it might it be justified to add it were Brazil ever to go into  
Freerunner production.

A 1.3mp camera would produce complaints that it's a poor specification  
compared to the iPhone. Hardly anyone would be grateful for the  
addition of the barometric sensor.

TBH, if the Freerunner were in reliable, long-term production, I might  
be able to imagine a market for Freerunners amongst hang-glider  
pilots. I think a person might be able to make a living adding  
Christoph's sensor and selling Freerunners with varioaltimeter  
software installed. The software would have to be closed-source,  
however, to make a livelihood out of it and realistically it might  
take a year to get the software to an acceptable quality for  
commercial sales (and still longer to build-up market share). The  
author might need to write anti-piracy measures into the code, and  
what is to prevent a determined attacker from patching the kernel to  
report a different IMEA number to the altimeter software?

Stroller.


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Re: [Qi - SHR-U/All?] Pink line of death

2009-10-04 Thread Christ van Willegen
Ok, I was again able to reproduce this (suspending while rotating).
Unfortunately:

ssh r...@moko
ssh: connect to host moko port 22: No route to host

So, the interface was already down (I did do an ifdown / ifup on the
port to force it to be up, but alas). No go there.

It looks like a Glamo bug, indeed. Rotating the phone, unfortunately,
does not work in my case, since it's too far on the path of suspend
already!

Can I save (some) log files so that they survive a reboot? Perhaps
there's a hint somewhere...

I'm running off the NAND partition, in case anyone is wondering.

Christ van Willegen

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[SHR/All] Problem compiling theme *weird*

2009-10-04 Thread Bernd Prünster
i will get straight to it
here's the situation:


r...@om-gta02 /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/neo $ sh ./build.sh 

In file included from stdin:2388:

clock.edc:63:5: warning: no newline at end of file

In file included from stdin:2390:

bases.edc:4522:4: warning: no newline at end of file

r...@om-gta02 /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/neo $ cp neo.ed

neo.edc   neo.edj

 ..

'? yoverwrite '../neo.edj

r...@om-gta02 /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/neo $ ls *.ed*

bases.edc   bootsplash.edc  colors.edc  neo.edj

battery.edc clock.edc   neo.edc

r...@om-gta02 /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/neo $ ls *.edj

ls: *.edj: No such file or directory

r...@om-gta02 /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/neo $ file neo.edj

neo.edj: cannot open `neo.edj' (No such file or directory)



i cannot even let the moko complete the filename via pressing the tab 
key. even the display gets messed up when i try it (see line 8)
what the heck is going on?
(by teh way the themes seems to work flawlessly)

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[FSO based] NeoLight 1.1.0 released

2009-10-04 Thread Valery Febvre
Hello,

NeoLight 1.1.0 was released.

Changes:
 * Added Custom Color
 * Speed up startup a bit
 * Now works with Elementary theme Niebiee

Package: http://neolight.googlecode.com/files/neolight_1.1.0-r0_all.ipk



NeoLight turns your Neo into a flashlight.

It flips the brightness up to full and displays a fullscreen bright
white rectangle.

Features
* Bright white or colored (red/green/blue/custom) screen
* Brightness dimmer
* Strobe light mode (with adjustable speed)
* Just tap the top left corner of screen to dim brightness to minimum,
and the top right corner to flip the brightness up to the level defined
in settings.

It is written in Python/Elementary.

NeoLight is tested on SHR unstable only but should work with all FSO
based distributions.

Homepage: http://code.google.com/p/neolight/

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Re: Increasing GPS accuracy with EGNOS

2009-10-04 Thread Erik Lundin
Good news, indeed. Does the Neo FreeRunner support EGNOS signals? Both 
the hardware and software?

Regards,
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Re: Internal pressure sensor

2009-10-04 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Sun, Oct 04, 2009 at 03:55:44PM +0100, Stroller wrote:
 
Depends on what you mean when you say cheap. I see it listed at just
  under USD 10 for one sensor or the price of a 1.3 mpix camera  
  module.
 
 Is the 1.3 mpix camera module also $10 for a single unit?

   Yes. References (pressure sensor first, then camera module):
http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Cat=1966259k=BMP085
https://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=8668

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Re: Universal Remote for CE/HA? (openmoko)

2009-10-04 Thread Jed
 Does anyone know of any OSS supported devices that do have IR integrated?
 Psion 5, 5mx, Ericsson mc218. Slow cpu, limited memory, monochrome and old 
 kernel, but excellent battery life on a pair of AAs. Probably not the form 
 factor you're after though.
 Interesting idea thanks, perhaps a tad too old though as you say.
 I'd prefer a form-factor closer to a standard remote but with an LCD, 
 ideally touch-screen but not imperative.

 Neuros OSD - for a low power consumption ethernet to IR gateway
 and standard def media player. Again probably not what you're
 after.
 Yeah really looking for hand-held device but thanks!
 
 
 My own initial idea was, of course, to just find a handheld device
 with inbuilt IR functionality, but then not only did I see that there
 was the issue of finding something with `inbuilt IR' functionality at
 all, but that the meaning of IR actually varied (computing devices
 support IRDA; TVs and other such devices use different protocols, and
 it appeared that an IRDA device may not be able to support any of the
 non-IRDA protocols). Also, prior to the FreeRunner, I found it
 difficult to justify to myself the idea spending $500 or more on a
 more functionally-limited device like an iPaq or something that would
 probably just end up being a $500+ TV remote control.
 
 But then I got an OSD and realised that it came with a IR dongle and
 that I could use it as a gateway, which made the problem easier.
 
 One of the interesting things about the IR functionality of the OSD,
 though, is that it doesn't appear to be built-in to the OSD per
 se--the IR transmitter is a small device that just connects to the
 OSD's serial port.
 
 I believe that there are universal `consumer electronics'-type IR
 transceivers (UIRT) currently on the market that function as USB
 devices, and some of them are even quite cheap--in the worst case,
 this might be a less-invasive option: to simply plug one of these into
 a FreeRunner's USB port.

Nah if I can't find something that has Consumer_IR integrated I'll just 
persevere with my X50V. If it turns out to be too limited longer-term 
for other reasons, then I'll just start excluding IR as a prerequisite 
for any replacement.

I'll still have the IR bridge functionality built into my controller PC 
 that's all that really matters in the end.

I haven't decided on the exact IR transceiver yet, but it'll be from one 
of the these three vendors: Iguana, IRTrans, CommandIR. The others have 
been ruled out.

I'm thinking the IR bridge functionality would be best built into my 
pre-existing HTPC. Bridging for other protocols will prolly be done by a 
2nd controller PC (the primary HA controller), which will be a VM on my 
native VMM server.

Cheers,
Jed

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