Re: Android status as a daily phone
Thanks urodelo. What about the listen volume? And about hibernation? Is the energy saver working as it should? I mean the phone can sleep and wake without problems? Denis. On 24/04/2010, at 21:44, urodelo wrote: > I've it on my fr since some months. The version I use is 1.5. I can use it > as daily phone. it's stable. I've just installed few applications, and > except some occasional freeze, I'm not experimenting any special problem. > However, I find there aren't many interesting applications available (for > my taste), not like in shr. Moreover, its difficult to do every little > change in the system. But if you just want to use it as mobile phone, i > think it's ok. I didn't test gps and bluetooth yet, I assume they work. > Wifi works very well, it automatically reconnects if i go out of range for > some time. I've it on nand; booting it can sometimes be a challenge, if > your finger isn't quick enough, especially if you have just opened your > eyes after a deep sleep. > ByeZ > urodelo > > On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 23:59:36 +0200, Denis Galvão - Gmail > wrote: > >> Im out for a long period... >> >> What is the most recent status of Freerunner Android as a daily phone? >> >> I''ll try it again on monday, and would love some feedback from Android >> users out there. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Denis. > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android status as a daily phone
I've it on my fr since some months. The version I use is 1.5. I can use it as daily phone. it's stable. I've just installed few applications, and except some occasional freeze, I'm not experimenting any special problem. However, I find there aren't many interesting applications available (for my taste), not like in shr. Moreover, its difficult to do every little change in the system. But if you just want to use it as mobile phone, i think it's ok. I didn't test gps and bluetooth yet, I assume they work. Wifi works very well, it automatically reconnects if i go out of range for some time. I've it on nand; booting it can sometimes be a challenge, if your finger isn't quick enough, especially if you have just opened your eyes after a deep sleep. ByeZ urodelo On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 23:59:36 +0200, Denis Galvão - Gmail wrote: > Im out for a long period... > > What is the most recent status of Freerunner Android as a daily phone? > > I''ll try it again on monday, and would love some feedback from Android > users out there. > > Thanks, > > Denis. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Android status as a daily phone
Im out for a long period... What is the most recent status of Freerunner Android as a daily phone? I''ll try it again on monday, and would love some feedback from Android users out there. Thanks, Denis. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Two queries about Android installation
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 6:59 AM, Neil Jerram wrote: > I'm interested in taking a look at Android... > > 1. The installation instructions seem to involve both a full SD card > (which will be completely overwritten) and flashing the NAND. What I > don't understand is whether the SD card is only needed during > installation, or if the same SD card needs to stay in the phone > afterwards, when booting Android from NAND. > The installer puts all of Android in NAND. After installation the SD card is only used for extra storage (web downloads, media, etc.) Any FAT formatted SD card will do. You can run with no SD card in there, but as I recall, some things don't work. > > 2. I understand that the Android installation flashes a modified > version of the Qi bootloader. Can this modified version still boot > other distributions, in particular Debian? > It should boot other distributions from SD. The modification is because Andoid uses a different NAND partition layout. If you want to replace Android with a different distribution in NAND, you should reflash Qi. Hope that helps! Jim > > Basically the situation is that I want to keep Debian (on SD) as my > main distribution, but have Android in NAND for trying out. I have > another SD card (512Mb) that I can use just for the Android install, > but after that I'd like to put the Debian SD card back in. > > Thanks for any answers and advice! > >Neil > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Two queries about Android installation
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Neil Jerram wrote: > I'm interested in taking a look at Android... > > 1. The installation instructions seem to involve both a full SD card > (which will be completely overwritten) and flashing the NAND. What I > don't understand is whether the SD card is only needed during > installation, or if the same SD card needs to stay in the phone > afterwards, when booting Android from NAND. > it's needed also after. > > 2. I understand that the Android installation flashes a modified > version of the Qi bootloader. Can this modified version still boot > other distributions, in particular Debian? > yes, i tried it some time ago... but you have to switch sd (and that it's what i'm trying to avoid :) ) > > Basically the situation is that I want to keep Debian (on SD) as my > main distribution, but have Android in NAND for trying out. I have > another SD card (512Mb) that I can use just for the Android install, > but after that I'd like to put the Debian SD card back in. > > Thanks for any answers and advice! > >Neil > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Two queries about Android installation
I'm interested in taking a look at Android... >> >> You can find detailed info on the subject here: >> http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/ > > Of course I already looked there. The questions that I asked here are > the ones remaining after I had read that information. If you think my > questions are answered on that site, can you please point out the > specific location? > If you want to talk to the AoF community you can always try the mailinglist: http://groups.google.com/group/android-on-freerunner _ Windows 7: helpt je meer voor elkaar te krijgen. http://windows.microsoft.com/nl-BE/windows7/products/home?os=win7 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] Zhone no longer working
On 24 April 2010 12:43, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > Neil Jerram writes: >> # killall zhone > > How would this work? Isn't zhone a python program? Yes it is python. So I see your point, but I have a fairly strong feeling that it _did_ work for me in the past. But perhaps my memory is playing a trick on me. Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Two queries about Android installation
On 24 April 2010 14:27, Alexander Shulgin wrote: > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 14:05, Davide Scaini wrote: >> >> >> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Neil Jerram >> wrote: >>> >>> I'm interested in taking a look at Android... > > You can find detailed info on the subject here: > http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/ Of course I already looked there. The questions that I asked here are the ones remaining after I had read that information. If you think my questions are answered on that site, can you please point out the specific location? Thanks, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtmoko] roadmap for v22 and later
Also: - Ability to copy from a web page, contact, Notes etc and inserted into the dialer, Notes etc in different combinations - Thank you for your attention. -- View this message in context: http://openmoko-public-mailinglists.1958.n2.nabble.com/qtmoko-roadmap-for-v22-and-later-tp4900239p4954951.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Two queries about Android installation
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 14:05, Davide Scaini wrote: > > > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Neil Jerram > wrote: >> >> I'm interested in taking a look at Android... You can find detailed info on the subject here: http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/ -- Cheers, Alex ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] Zhone no longer working
Neil Jerram writes: > # killall zhone How would this work? Isn't zhone a python program? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] Zhone no longer working
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 11:14:13AM +0100, Neil Jerram wrote: > On 23 April 2010 16:17, wrote: > > > 2010-04-23T14:48:16.961873Z [ERROR] UsageController <7 R>: Resource > > GSM > > can't be enabled: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: > > the > > remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security > > policy > > blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network > > connection > > was broken.. Trying to disable instead > > What happens if you kill zhone and start it again? For example, in a > terminal: > > # killall zhone > # zhone > > It may just be that the FSO subsystems weren't ready when zhone > started the first time, and so restarting it will help. > Thanks for the suggestion, but it doesn't make a difference. Neither does restarting dbus, fso-deviced and fso-frameworkd. What to think of the following; shouldn't it be possible to switch the gsm on/off without the rxerr? Is this related? [1]+ tail -f /var/log/syslog & debian-gta02:~# cat /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on 0 debian-gta02:~# echo 1 > /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on Apr 24 13:02:29 debian-gta02 kernel: [21474792.29] rxerr: port=0 ch=0x00, rxs=0x000c Apr 24 13:02:29 debian-gta02 kernel: [21474792.345000] modem wakeup interrupt Apr 24 13:02:31 debian-gta02 kernel: [21474793.73] modem wakeup interrupt debian-gta02:~# echo 1 > /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on debian-gta02:~# cat /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on 1 debian-gta02:~# echo 0 > /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on debian-gta02:~# Apr 24 13:02:45 debian-gta02 kernel: [21474807.99] rxerr: port=0 ch=0x00, rxs=0x000c debian-gta02:~# echo 0 > /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on debian-gta02:~# cat /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on 0 debian-gta02:~# echo 1 > /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on Apr 24 13:03:15 debian-gta02 kernel: [1.60] rxerr: port=0 ch=0x00, rxs=0x000c Apr 24 13:03:15 debian-gta02 kernel: [1.655000] modem wakeup interrupt Apr 24 13:03:16 debian-gta02 kernel: [3.025000] modem wakeup interrupt debian-gta02:~# echo 1 > /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on debian-gta02:~# Gyelt -- Arbeitstagebuch http://ergoarte.ch/arte/blog/de_index.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Two queries about Android installation
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Neil Jerram wrote: > I'm interested in taking a look at Android... > > 1. The installation instructions seem to involve both a full SD card > (which will be completely overwritten) and flashing the NAND. What I > don't understand is whether the SD card is only needed during > installation, or if the same SD card needs to stay in the phone > afterwards, when booting Android from NAND. > > 2. I understand that the Android installation flashes a modified > version of the Qi bootloader. Can this modified version still boot > other distributions, in particular Debian? > > Basically the situation is that I want to keep Debian (on SD) as my > main distribution, but have Android in NAND for trying out. I have > another SD card (512Mb) that I can use just for the Android install, > but after that I'd like to put the Debian SD card back in. > > Thanks for any answers and advice! > >Neil > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > I am sure that android installs some system files on the sd, so you need a sd card to boon android also after first installation. Usually the best choice for android is to have 2 partitions: one for android system files and another for your datas. what i'm looking for is quite the same... a way to use andorid and shr... i think it's just necessary to partition correctly the sd, but I have no idea how... hints welcome d ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Two queries about Android installation
I'm interested in taking a look at Android... 1. The installation instructions seem to involve both a full SD card (which will be completely overwritten) and flashing the NAND. What I don't understand is whether the SD card is only needed during installation, or if the same SD card needs to stay in the phone afterwards, when booting Android from NAND. 2. I understand that the Android installation flashes a modified version of the Qi bootloader. Can this modified version still boot other distributions, in particular Debian? Basically the situation is that I want to keep Debian (on SD) as my main distribution, but have Android in NAND for trying out. I have another SD card (512Mb) that I can use just for the Android install, but after that I'd like to put the Debian SD card back in. Thanks for any answers and advice! Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ventura upgrades
Richard Kralovic-3 wrote: > > I guess the modifications comes from me (I didn't know that google hides > my mail so well ;-) ). > :-D It does! Thanks! I can always do with help - I've got a lot of projects to handle. Richard Kralovic-3 wrote: > > You can use the menu to hide the buttons at the bottom of the screen, so > you are able to > access links below them. > The menu can at best show about 5 items - so the "hide controls" command was not visible. Have made changes to the menu. Things should be better now. -- View this message in context: http://openmoko-public-mailinglists.1958.n2.nabble.com/ventura-upgrades-tp4905082p4954425.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] Zhone no longer working
On 23 April 2010 16:17, wrote: > 2010-04-23T14:48:16.961873Z [ERROR] UsageController <7 R>: Resource GSM > can't be enabled: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the > remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security > policy > blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection > was broken.. Trying to disable instead What happens if you kill zhone and start it again? For example, in a terminal: # killall zhone # zhone It may just be that the FSO subsystems weren't ready when zhone started the first time, and so restarting it will help. Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-t] typing sms over ssh
On 23/04/2010 18:41, YoYo Siska wrote: > On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 06:30:37PM +0200, YoYo Siska wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 01:58:21PM +0200, Xavier Cremaschi wrote: >>> Le 23/04/2010 11:56, n...@el-hennig.de a écrit : > Just a question : is there any way to launch phoneui-messages through > ssh -X ? It keeps ignoring $DISPLAY and displays itself on FR screen... > > IIRC I was able to do that previously... maybe an alterantive would be using thone... http://code.google.com/p/thone/ >>> >>> No thanks, I need to launch phoneui-messages, not to send a message over >>> ssh (console tools would be pertinent then) >> >> The phone apps are displayed by an ui "daemon" app. IIRC it's called >> phoneuid and starts on X startup, connects to the local DISPLAY and >> phoneui-message and others just tell it to pop up the respective >> windows. >> >> You could however try stopping it (killall phoneuid), then running it on >> your ssh forwarded display and then running phoneui-messages... >> You will have to kill it then again and run it on the freerunner's DISPLAY to >> have your apps work on freerunner again. > > one more thing: > > you may even just try to run a second phoneuid on your display (without > killing the local one). I don't know if the fso deamons/protocol allows > multiple gui clients to control the phone functions... but my guess is > that it could work... > > > yoyo Thanks, killing phoneuid did the job. I don't know how to specify the good phoneuid when you have 2 running... Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
