Re: Freerunner - small and fast distribution only for GPS

2010-08-31 Thread W. B. Kranendonk

--- On Tue, 8/31/10, Carsten Gerlach  wrote:
> Thanks for this hint to openWRT. But i have problems to get
> a connection over 
> wifi to the internet. I did read the wiki (...)
> 
> How can I solve this?

I intended to give a hand, but I can't find the uSD with OpenWRT anymore to try 
it out. I downloaded and flashed anew, but now I do not even manage to get a 
connection to my Freerunner :-( 

Perhaps my problem at the moment is similar to yours but the other way around; 
my network here is in the 192.168.1.x range, and I might have addedd incorrect 
routes to 192.168.1.1 that the Freerunner occupies now.

As suggested in another reply, what does ip route say? 


  

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Re: QtMoko v26

2010-08-31 Thread Tiago Bortoletto Vaz
On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 22:31:23 +0200, Radek Polak wrote
> Hello,
> qtmoko has new v26 release. You can get it from our sourceforge page 
> [1].

[...]

> 
> Thanks for everybody who helped with this release. I hope you'll 
> like the changes and new features.

I´ve just installed v26 and had a nice experience. I was listening to music in
mplayer and got a phone call. Mplayer stopped and I answered the call. Then a
new email arrived in the qtopia default MUA. I finished the call, mplayer got
song back properly, the system gave me the chance to read the message and then
brought me back the player screen. It seems the basic functions are working
very well in qtmoko. I´m really happy having a free device with a free OS on
this level of quality and beauty. Thanks very much qtomoko and Debian people
for that. Due to technical and time limitations I´m not able to give any
substantial help for this project at the moment, but for sure I´ll report
avery issue I eventually find here.

Regards,

--
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http://tiagovaz.org
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Re: Freerunner - small and fast distribution only for GPS

2010-08-31 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Carsten Gerlach  writes:
> / # ping 88.198.93.221
> PING 88.198.93.221 (88.198.93.221) 56 data bytes
> ping: sendto: Network is unreachable
> / #
>
> How can I solve this?

"ip route"?

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Re: Freerunner - small and fast distribution only for GPS

2010-08-31 Thread Carsten Gerlach
Hi,

Am Dienstag 31 August 2010 schrieb W. B. Kranendonk:
> I second OpenWRT. The image available for Freerunner is very light and fast
> (didn't clock it, but perhaps just over half a minute for booting?).

Thanks for this hint to openWRT. But i have problems to get a connection over 
wifi to the internet. I did read the wiki 
(http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenWrt#Usage) but still get the message of 
ping:

/ # ping 88.198.93.221
PING 88.198.93.221 (88.198.93.221) 56 data bytes
ping: sendto: Network is unreachable
/ #

How can I solve this?


Greetings, Carsten

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Re: Leaving the Openmoko community, new wiki-admin needed

2010-08-31 Thread Marko Knöbl
2010/8/31, Dr. Michael Lauer :
> Hi Marko,
>
>> I have previously worked as the administrator of the Openmoko Wiki for the
>> last
>> year. Unfortunately I have to announce that I will stop my involvement in
>> the
>> Openmoko community and so a new admin is needed.
>
> Thanks for all the work you did!
>
>> The reason for leaving is
>> quite simple: I broke my FreeRunner last weekend at a party. Although I
>> enjoyed my time with it I won't get another one. (Instead I'm getting an
>> N900
>> and hoping for MeeGo or Debian + FSO to provide a free OS for this device
>> soon)
>
> Excellent. Fortunately Nokia provided me with a development device,
> so I'm in possession of an N900 since monday. Lets see whether we can pull
> something off.
>
> In any case, if you have some spare time, I'd appreciate taking a look at
> the
> FSO wiki, which covers the feasibility of all kinds of anti-vendor-ports as
> well.
>
It's great to hear that Nokia provided you with a device! I didn't
epect that from
the creators of oFono!
I'll consider contributing to the FSO-wiki - looks like that would be much less
work than working on the Openmoko wiki.

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Re: QtMoko v26

2010-08-31 Thread Ed Kapitein
Nevermind, i forgot the LD_LIBRARY_PATH

Kind regards,
Ed

On 08/31/2010 08:38 PM, Ed Kapitein wrote:
> On 08/31/2010 12:22 PM, Radek Polak wrote:
>   
>> On Tuesday 31 August 2010 11:28:46 Francesco De Vita wrote:
>>
>>   
>> 
>>> Radek please can you explain these commands in the devtools?
>>> - AGPS dump
>>> 
>>>   
>> You must have gps on and you must have fix. Then it takes data from GPS chip 
>> and saves them to /var/cache/agpsdata
>>
>>   
>> 
>>> - AGPS lead
>>> 
>>>   
>> You must have GPS on. It takes data previously dumped to /var/cache/agpsdata 
>> and sends them to GPS chip. The chip can use the data to get faster fix.
>>
>> Both of the above scripts are used automaticaly by qtopia GPS manager (it's 
>> called whereabouts or something like this) before turning GPS off and after 
>> powering it on.
>>
>>   
>> 
>>> - Fast Charge Mod
>>> 
>>>   
>> That's script from QtExtended 4.4.3 - i doubt it works.
>>
>>   
>> 
>>> - GPS standby enter
>>> 
>>>   
>> When GPS is on it can put it in standby. In this mode GPS consumes very 
>> little 
>> power.
>>
>>   
>> 
>>> - GPS standy leave
>>> 
>>>   
>> Leaves standby mode. You can normally use GPS then and it should get very 
>> fast 
>> fix.
>>
>>   
>> 
>>> Do you think to include a better wifi manager in next releases? the
>>> default one still causes problem (alias you must be lucky to have a
>>> working connection, at least for me).
>>> 
>>>   
>> I dont plan any rewriting. I will accept fixes/patches or standalone 
>> application for setting wifi (installable by Setting->package manager). But 
>> since wifi works on my open network it's not very high priority (which means 
>> someone else has to do the work ;-)
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Radek
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>>   
>> 
> Hi Radek,
>
> I tried to do AGPS dump, but that gives no data in
> /var/cache/agpsdata.
> Then i took a look at the sources and it says:
> gta02-gps $GPS_ARGS --dump-agps $AGPS_PATH
> (in qtmoko/devices/neo/src/devtools/scripts/gps-event.sh)
>
> So i ran that manually, like this:
> /opt/qtmoko/bin/gta02-gps $GPS_ARGS --dump-agps $AGPS_PATH
> But that gives:
> /opt/qtmoko/bin/gta02-gps: error while loading shared libraries:
> libqtopiagfx.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>
> and ldd /opt/qtmoko/bin/gta02-gps shows a lot of missing libraries.
>
> Am i doing something wrong, or is the code not yet functional?
>
> Kind regards,
> Ed
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Re: QtMoko v26

2010-08-31 Thread Ed Kapitein
On 08/31/2010 12:22 PM, Radek Polak wrote:
> On Tuesday 31 August 2010 11:28:46 Francesco De Vita wrote:
>
>   
>> Radek please can you explain these commands in the devtools?
>> - AGPS dump
>> 
> You must have gps on and you must have fix. Then it takes data from GPS chip 
> and saves them to /var/cache/agpsdata
>
>   
>> - AGPS lead
>> 
> You must have GPS on. It takes data previously dumped to /var/cache/agpsdata 
> and sends them to GPS chip. The chip can use the data to get faster fix.
>
> Both of the above scripts are used automaticaly by qtopia GPS manager (it's 
> called whereabouts or something like this) before turning GPS off and after 
> powering it on.
>
>   
>> - Fast Charge Mod
>> 
> That's script from QtExtended 4.4.3 - i doubt it works.
>
>   
>> - GPS standby enter
>> 
> When GPS is on it can put it in standby. In this mode GPS consumes very 
> little 
> power.
>
>   
>> - GPS standy leave
>> 
> Leaves standby mode. You can normally use GPS then and it should get very 
> fast 
> fix.
>
>   
>> Do you think to include a better wifi manager in next releases? the
>> default one still causes problem (alias you must be lucky to have a
>> working connection, at least for me).
>> 
> I dont plan any rewriting. I will accept fixes/patches or standalone 
> application for setting wifi (installable by Setting->package manager). But 
> since wifi works on my open network it's not very high priority (which means 
> someone else has to do the work ;-)
>
> Regards
>
> Radek
>
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>   
Hi Radek,

I tried to do AGPS dump, but that gives no data in
/var/cache/agpsdata.
Then i took a look at the sources and it says:
gta02-gps $GPS_ARGS --dump-agps $AGPS_PATH
(in qtmoko/devices/neo/src/devtools/scripts/gps-event.sh)

So i ran that manually, like this:
/opt/qtmoko/bin/gta02-gps $GPS_ARGS --dump-agps $AGPS_PATH
But that gives:
/opt/qtmoko/bin/gta02-gps: error while loading shared libraries:
libqtopiagfx.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

and ldd /opt/qtmoko/bin/gta02-gps shows a lot of missing libraries.

Am i doing something wrong, or is the code not yet functional?

Kind regards,
Ed

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Re: Leaving the Openmoko community, new wiki-admin needed

2010-08-31 Thread Marko Knöbl
2010/8/31, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller :
> Hi Marco,
> thanks for your active work for the Wiki!
>
> Am 31.08.2010 um 15:59 schrieb Marko Knöbl:
>
>> Dear Openmoko community!
>>
>> I have previously worked as the administrator of the Openmoko Wiki for the
>> last
>> year. Unfortunately I have to announce that I will stop my involvement in
>> the
>> Openmoko community and so a new admin is needed. The reason for leaving is
>> quite simple: I broke my FreeRunner last weekend at a party. Although I
>
> that is sad to hear. What has been brolen? Almost everything on a FR can
> be repaired...
>
>> enjoyed my time with it I won't get another one. (Instead I'm getting an
>> N900
>> and hoping for MeeGo or Debian + FSO to provide a free OS for this device
>> soon)
>
> Not willing to wait a little until you get N900 power into your Freerunner?
>
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I don't know exactly what's broken - I just can't register to the
network anymore. Probably it's just the antenna. However I think it
wouldn't pay off to get it repaired. And as far as I know the official
MeeGo-releases for the N900 will be completely open source, so it will
be almost as open as the Openmoko devices. And I can't wait for the
next version of the FreeRunner because it was my only phone and I need
a working one again.

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freerunner donation

2010-08-31 Thread Petr Vanek
hi,

i am looking for someone willing to donate their paperweight freerunner
laying around as i am trying to bring my friend programmer on board.

Thank you and please feel free to contact me directly off the list or pm
me on #openmoko-cdevel

Petr Vanek aka Vanous




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Re: Leaving the Openmoko community, new wiki-admin needed

2010-08-31 Thread Nashvin Gangaram
Thanks for all your efforts Marko...



On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Marko Knöbl wrote:

> Dear Openmoko community!
>
> I have previously worked as the administrator of the Openmoko Wiki for the
> last
> year. Unfortunately I have to announce that I will stop my involvement in
> the
> Openmoko community and so a new admin is needed. The reason for leaving is
> quite simple: I broke my FreeRunner last weekend at a party. Although I
> enjoyed my time with it I won't get another one. (Instead I'm getting an
> N900
> and hoping for MeeGo or Debian + FSO to provide a free OS for this device
> soon)
>
> As I am leaving a new admin is needed in the wiki. The main task for such
> an
> admin would be deleting pages which are either outdated or spam. More
> information on the process of deleting pages can be found here:[1]. If you
> are
> willing to assist the community by taking over this task please contact a
> wiki
> sysop and request more rights on the wiki so you can delete pages. I think
> Joachim Steiger (Roh) is the one to contact for this purpose.
>
> I will continue the task of deleting unwanted pages until someone else will
> get
> admin rights - but not longer than one month.
>
> I wish you all the best for the future. It has been great to be a part of
> this
> project!
>
> OT: As my involvement in the Openmoko project is over I'm searching for new
> challenges. I'm planning to take a break for several month now, but
> afterwards
> I might consider writing some documentation again for some project related
> to
> N900. So if you're working on a related project and need assisance with
> documentation just contact me and maybe I'll join.
>
> [1]
>
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_Wiki_Editing_Guidelines#Deleting_pages
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Re: Leaving the Openmoko community, new wiki-admin needed

2010-08-31 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
Marko,
you did a fantastic job all these many months - under-appreciated - so
a big THANK YOU is more than deserved!
Good luck with your N900, keep in touch,
Wolfgang

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Re: Leaving the Openmoko community, new wiki-admin needed

2010-08-31 Thread Dr. Michael Lauer
Hi Marko,

> I have previously worked as the administrator of the Openmoko Wiki for the 
> last
> year. Unfortunately I have to announce that I will stop my involvement in the
> Openmoko community and so a new admin is needed.

Thanks for all the work you did!

> The reason for leaving is
> quite simple: I broke my FreeRunner last weekend at a party. Although I
> enjoyed my time with it I won't get another one. (Instead I'm getting an N900
> and hoping for MeeGo or Debian + FSO to provide a free OS for this device 
> soon)

Excellent. Fortunately Nokia provided me with a development device,
so I'm in possession of an N900 since monday. Lets see whether we can pull
something off.

In any case, if you have some spare time, I'd appreciate taking a look at the
FSO wiki, which covers the feasibility of all kinds of anti-vendor-ports as 
well.

Best regards and thanks again,

Mickey.


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Re: Leaving the Openmoko community, new wiki-admin needed

2010-08-31 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi Marco,
thanks for your active work for the Wiki!

Am 31.08.2010 um 15:59 schrieb Marko Knöbl:

> Dear Openmoko community!
> 
> I have previously worked as the administrator of the Openmoko Wiki for the 
> last
> year. Unfortunately I have to announce that I will stop my involvement in the
> Openmoko community and so a new admin is needed. The reason for leaving is
> quite simple: I broke my FreeRunner last weekend at a party. Although I

that is sad to hear. What has been brolen? Almost everything on a FR can
be repaired...

> enjoyed my time with it I won't get another one. (Instead I'm getting an N900
> and hoping for MeeGo or Debian + FSO to provide a free OS for this device 
> soon)

Not willing to wait a little until you get N900 power into your Freerunner?

Nikolaus
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Re: Leaving the Openmoko community, new wiki-admin needed

2010-08-31 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Hi,

Thank you for your work, so far, and that you took the time to announce
your intention is very much appreciated (better than suddenly dropping out).

I don't remember Joachim, but I hope he's still paying attention to the
mailing list. I offer my will to help with this task, unless someone
else wants it.

Best regards,
Rui

Em 31-08-2010 14:59, Marko Knöbl escreveu:
> Dear Openmoko community!
> 
> I have previously worked as the administrator of the Openmoko Wiki for the 
> last
> year. Unfortunately I have to announce that I will stop my involvement in the
> Openmoko community and so a new admin is needed. The reason for leaving is
> quite simple: I broke my FreeRunner last weekend at a party. Although I
> enjoyed my time with it I won't get another one. (Instead I'm getting an N900
> and hoping for MeeGo or Debian + FSO to provide a free OS for this device 
> soon)
> 
> As I am leaving a new admin is needed in the wiki. The main task for such an
> admin would be deleting pages which are either outdated or spam. More
> information on the process of deleting pages can be found here:[1]. If you are
> willing to assist the community by taking over this task please contact a wiki
> sysop and request more rights on the wiki so you can delete pages. I think
> Joachim Steiger (Roh) is the one to contact for this purpose.
> 
> I will continue the task of deleting unwanted pages until someone else will 
> get
> admin rights - but not longer than one month.
> 
> I wish you all the best for the future. It has been great to be a part of this
> project!
> 
> OT: As my involvement in the Openmoko project is over I'm searching for new
> challenges. I'm planning to take a break for several month now, but afterwards
> I might consider writing some documentation again for some project related to
> N900. So if you're working on a related project and need assisance with
> documentation just contact me and maybe I'll join.
> 
> [1]
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_Wiki_Editing_Guidelines#Deleting_pages
> 
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Leaving the Openmoko community, new wiki-admin needed

2010-08-31 Thread Marko Knöbl
Dear Openmoko community!

I have previously worked as the administrator of the Openmoko Wiki for the last
year. Unfortunately I have to announce that I will stop my involvement in the
Openmoko community and so a new admin is needed. The reason for leaving is
quite simple: I broke my FreeRunner last weekend at a party. Although I
enjoyed my time with it I won't get another one. (Instead I'm getting an N900
and hoping for MeeGo or Debian + FSO to provide a free OS for this device soon)

As I am leaving a new admin is needed in the wiki. The main task for such an
admin would be deleting pages which are either outdated or spam. More
information on the process of deleting pages can be found here:[1]. If you are
willing to assist the community by taking over this task please contact a wiki
sysop and request more rights on the wiki so you can delete pages. I think
Joachim Steiger (Roh) is the one to contact for this purpose.

I will continue the task of deleting unwanted pages until someone else will get
admin rights - but not longer than one month.

I wish you all the best for the future. It has been great to be a part of this
project!

OT: As my involvement in the Openmoko project is over I'm searching for new
challenges. I'm planning to take a break for several month now, but afterwards
I might consider writing some documentation again for some project related to
N900. So if you're working on a related project and need assisance with
documentation just contact me and maybe I'll join.

[1]
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_Wiki_Editing_Guidelines#Deleting_pages

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Re: Freerunner - small and fast distribution only for GPS

2010-08-31 Thread W. B. Kranendonk
--- On Mon, 8/30/10, Radek Polak  wrote:
> On Sunday 29 August 2010 16:03:39
> Carsten Gerlach wrote:
> 
> > What would be a good starting distro? I would take
(...)
> openwrt. It's very 
> very small and the build process is very easily
> configurable with menuconfig.

I second OpenWRT. The image available for Freerunner is very light and fast 
(didn't clock it, but perhaps just over half a minute for booting?). 

It is usable as phone since it's so responsive (it wakes up before the caller 
loses patience and hangs up). It leaves more than enough resources for 
(Tango)GPS. 

Only two things I have a problem with, are lack of capital letters (!) and GPRS 
in the default image (or anyway, I couldn't figure those out).

Give it a try!

Boudewijn


  

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Re: QtMoko v26

2010-08-31 Thread Radek Polak
On Tuesday 31 August 2010 11:28:46 Francesco De Vita wrote:

> Radek please can you explain these commands in the devtools?
> - AGPS dump

You must have gps on and you must have fix. Then it takes data from GPS chip 
and saves them to /var/cache/agpsdata

> - AGPS lead

You must have GPS on. It takes data previously dumped to /var/cache/agpsdata 
and sends them to GPS chip. The chip can use the data to get faster fix.

Both of the above scripts are used automaticaly by qtopia GPS manager (it's 
called whereabouts or something like this) before turning GPS off and after 
powering it on.

> - Fast Charge Mod

That's script from QtExtended 4.4.3 - i doubt it works.

> - GPS standby enter

When GPS is on it can put it in standby. In this mode GPS consumes very little 
power.

> - GPS standy leave

Leaves standby mode. You can normally use GPS then and it should get very fast 
fix.

> Do you think to include a better wifi manager in next releases? the
> default one still causes problem (alias you must be lucky to have a
> working connection, at least for me).

I dont plan any rewriting. I will accept fixes/patches or standalone 
application for setting wifi (installable by Setting->package manager). But 
since wifi works on my open network it's not very high priority (which means 
someone else has to do the work ;-)

Regards

Radek

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Re: [Shr-Devel] Qi with glamo242 timing

2010-08-31 Thread Sylvain Paré
thx!

2010/8/30 Petr Vanek 

> On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 14:44:48 +0200
> Sylvain Paré  (SP) wrote:
>
> SP> Where can I find a Qi (not  a u-boot) build with the glamo timing
> SP> optimization?
>
> You don't need Qi for this test as you can set it [1] during normal
> runtime, but when you find this Qi, please update the wiki.
>
> [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Smedia_Glamo_3362#Timing_settings
>
> Petr
>
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Re: QtMoko v26

2010-08-31 Thread Sylvain Paré
About devtools, am I the only one fighting against my screen to double-tap
wihtout moving to launch a command?

2010/8/31 Francesco De Vita 

> Radek please can you explain these commands in the devtools?
> - AGPS dump
> - AGPS lead
> - Fast Charge Mod
> - GPS standby enter
> - GPS standy leave
>
> Do you think to include a better wifi manager in next releases? the
> default one still causes problem (alias you must be lucky to have a
> working connection, at least for me).
> I tried wicd-curses (from Squeeze repos) and it works very well, but of
> course it is an app without a GUI, it could be uncomfortable for some
> users.
>
> thank you!
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Re: QtMoko v26

2010-08-31 Thread Francesco De Vita
Radek please can you explain these commands in the devtools?
- AGPS dump
- AGPS lead
- Fast Charge Mod
- GPS standby enter
- GPS standy leave

Do you think to include a better wifi manager in next releases? the 
default one still causes problem (alias you must be lucky to have a 
working connection, at least for me).
I tried wicd-curses (from Squeeze repos) and it works very well, but of 
course it is an app without a GUI, it could be uncomfortable for some users.

thank you!

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