Indiephone.eu
Hi, there appears to be a new initiative which is taking all our values (openness, freedom, community development, ) and casting it into a new name: http://indiephone.eu/faq/ "The most common answer to that is that no other product is currently attempting to solve the problem as Indie Phone. That problem is how to empower mere mortals to own their own data. This is why we are crafting a beautiful experience that seamlessly combines hardware, software, and services, to create a consumer smartphone to compete with the likes of iPhone and Nexus." e.g. compare to: http://www.openphoenux.org "You are the owner: • Be independent from big players. • Make the system transparent, not the user. • Keep control over your data." Their claim that "there is no other product" appears to be completely ignoring all our efforts of the past years. And I am not aware of any relation with us. They even copied to use the word "indie/independent". Does anyone know more about that? BR, Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Indiephone.eu
Am 28.06.2014 um 11:17 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: > Hi, > there appears to be a new initiative which is taking all our values > (openness, freedom, community development, ) and casting it into a new name: > > http://indiephone.eu/faq/ > > "The most common answer to that is that no other product is currently > attempting to solve the problem as Indie Phone. That problem is how to > empower mere mortals to own their own data. This is why we are crafting a > beautiful experience that seamlessly combines hardware, software, and > services, to create a consumer smartphone to compete with the likes of iPhone > and Nexus." > > e.g. compare to: > > http://www.openphoenux.org > > "You are the owner: > • Be independent from big players. > • Make the system transparent, not the user. > • Keep control over your data." > > Their claim that "there is no other product" appears to be completely > ignoring all our efforts of the past years. And I am not aware of any > relation with us. > They even copied to use the word "indie/independent". > > Does anyone know more about that? I had in parallel contacted the indiephone.eu people and got an immediate answer that I think I should share, before the discussion is going wrong: "Is there any chance you can make it to the summit? (Where are you based?) Would love to be involved and I’m sure there is a lot we can learn from you and perhaps we can bring some of you in to help us out with the hardware side of things. Our approach is very different in that we are focussed entirely on building independent consumer products that are design-led from the business model down (holistic design). That said, I believe we share the same goals independence and giving the user control/owndership. Our user happens to be consumers whereas the user for OpenPhoenux, as far as I can tell, is enthusiasts with technical knowledge. We should definitely be talking and helping each other out. If you can make it to Brighton next week — please try and come on the 3rd for our private social meet-up prior to the event as I’d love the opportunity to chat one-on-one :) (And, although the schedule is tight, I believe we can squeeze in just one demo during the eat, drink, and watch session at lunch if you want 3 minutes to show off what you guys are working on.)" The summit mentioned appears to be this: https://indietech.org/summit/ If anyone wants to and can go to Brighton next week, please let me know to arrange the 3 minutes with the summit organisers. BR, Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qx and QtMoko v58 in GTA04
Le 09/06/2014 23:12, Maelvon HAWK a écrit : Le 09/06/2014 10:52, Neil Jerram a écrit : On 2014-06-09 05:36, Radek Polak wrote: On Sunday, June 08, 2014 00:00:27 Maelvon HAWK wrote: Is Qx working with GTA04 in QtMoko? IIRC it worked. Maybe you will need to use Xorg instead of Xfbdev. You can try uninstall Xfbdev and QX could again ask to install and configure Xorg for you. If Xorg is always better, it would be good to remove the choice of installing Xfbdev (at least for GTA04). Thanks Neil and Radek, Ok, I've already tested the Xorg instalation, but it hang at getting a package. I don't remember wich one, so I've installed xfbdev version. And it seems to not working. I'll try next week the Neil tips with xserver-xorg-input-evdev. I'm trying to run, the compilation works fine, the openambit.org project on the GTA04, as it can be a solution to retrieve and store the logs of a Sunnto watches while trecking. If Qx works in Qtmoko! And connecting the Usb will be the next step. There might be another problem that xserver-xorg-input-tslib was removed from debian wheezy, so you must use xserver-xorg-input-evdev for input. Now i am not sure which one is the GTA04 frinedly one... Does the QtMoko GTA04 kernel include Nikolaus's patch for dejittering in the kernel? If it does, it should be fine to use evdev. Neil Ok, that's not completly feasible so the Qx in Qtmoko for GTA04! Can I run a Qt application on the Lxde distribution in a backup solution? Thanks, Maelvon No chance to make working Qx under the Gta04. :-( But I've succeed to re-install the 20140328-GTA04-Production-3.12.7-wheezy-7.3 from Goldelico and run the soft under Lxde. I'll start a new thread about that on gta04-ow...@goldelico.com Maelvon ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Indiephone.eu
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 5:17 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > Their claim that "there is no other product" appears to be completely > ignoring all our efforts of the past years. I expect they simply didn't research the various projects out there already. Here are another few projects/groups that could have some crossover with open mobile communities btw: https://www.blackphone.ch/ http://www.fairphone.com/ https://blog.torproject.org/blog/mission-impossible-hardening-android-security-and-privacy https://guardianproject.info/ http://www.openmediacluster.com/en/user-verifiable-social-telematics-project/ -- bye, pabs http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:PaulWise ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
