Re: Can openmoko and FIC help the Redux model 1?

2007-11-29 Thread Jay Vaughan
At a recent conference the hosts gave away a free iPhone to its attendees but they were annoyed that they couldn't buy them in bulk and other things, long story short for the next conference they have proposed designing and building a completely open Internet tablet. I would dearly love being

Re: SIM Card Copy

2007-11-29 Thread t3st3r
I just had an idea that I got from a couple of devices, how about a virtual SIM card? Is it possible to make an ISO of a SIM card and store it in the Neo to be, for lack of a better word, booted from? In general, no. SIM card is a bit more than just a dumb file system.It does has own CPU, file

Re: new Qtopia image... Predictive keyboard not being predictive

2007-11-29 Thread Krzysztof Kajkowski
Wiadomość napisana w dniu Nov 29, 2007, o godz 2:25 AM, przez Lorn Potter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've actually been very lucky with the predictive keyboard. Especially since I have gorilla hands and I'm not very accurate. This is why this keyboard is so awesome, IMHO. You do not

Re: /. : Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request

2007-11-29 Thread t3st3r
i wholeheartedly support this open platform that gives its users the control to turn -any- of its radios on or off at will (of the operator...). This will not help too much.Either you're not in the network or network should be aware about your location.When someone calls you, network have to

OpenMoko OE repository

2007-11-29 Thread John Lee
Dear Community, The official OpenEmbedded repository to build the OpenMoko distribution can be found at monotone.openmoko.org. If you're using MokoMakefile, please refer to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MonotoneServer#Using_MokoMakefile for instructions about how to switch. Quotes from wiki

Re: OpenMoko OE repository

2007-11-29 Thread Jay Vaughan
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MonotoneServer#Using_MokoMakefile for instructions about how to switch. Alas, the Wiki has some ambiguous language: If you're using MokoMakefile, you will need to replace `monotone.openembedded.org' by `monotone.openmoko.org' in your Makefile. Then, do the

Re: OpenMoko OE repository

2007-11-29 Thread Jay Vaughan
By the way, this: Once every couple of days, the operator pulls a seperate database (i.e. _not_ on this server, but some private experimental build machine) from monotone.openembedded.org (let's say to revision X) and tries to build the OpenMoko distribution. If that fails, she/he will

Re: OpenMoko OE repository

2007-11-29 Thread John Lee
On Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 10:32:33AM +0100, Jay Vaughan wrote: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MonotoneServer#Using_MokoMakefile Following these instructions to a tee I get the following result: fi mtn: misuse: database /home/j/hak/openmoko/OE.mtn is laid out according to an old schema

OpenMoko OE repository not quite ready for MokoMakefile production usage

2007-11-29 Thread Rod Whitby
John Lee wrote: The official OpenEmbedded repository to build the OpenMoko distribution can be found at monotone.openmoko.org. If you're using MokoMakefile, please refer to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MonotoneServer#Using_MokoMakefile for instructions about how to switch. There is one

Re: SIM Card Copy

2007-11-29 Thread KISS Attila
AFAIK, the duplicate SIM cards are not equivalent cards. They have different IMSI and different Ki code. Only the network's configuration bind them to the same phone number. Theoretically you could have a dozen of them, but usually only one is allowed to receive the calls. This should clarify

Re: SIM Card Copy

2007-11-29 Thread Sébastien Lorquet
I don't even understand how it's possible to register to the network with a different Ki! 2007/11/29, KISS Attila [EMAIL PROTECTED]: AFAIK, the duplicate SIM cards are not equivalent cards. They have different IMSI and different Ki code. Only the network's configuration bind them to the

Michael Shiloh interview on The Linux Link Tech Show

2007-11-29 Thread Patrick Davila
I haven't listened very far, so maybe it'll be said, but at what offset is the interview? The interview starts 00:02:18 into the show. It sounds like we end the interview after an hour but Michael sticks around for quite a bit longer to talk about some other topics. He was extremely gracious with

Re: Michael Shiloh interview on The Linux Link Tech Show

2007-11-29 Thread Christ van Willegen
Hello Patrick, On Nov 29, 2007 1:25 PM, Patrick Davila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael was gracious enough to come on our show and talk about the great work you guys are doing: http://www.tllts.org/audio/tllts_221-11-28-07.ogg http://www.tllts.org/audio/tllts_221-11-28-07.mp3 I haven't

Re: Michael Shiloh interview on The Linux Link Tech Show

2007-11-29 Thread mariner
Christ van Willegen wrote: Hello Patrick, On Nov 29, 2007 1:25 PM, Patrick Davila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael was gracious enough to come on our show and talk about the great work you guys are doing: http://www.tllts.org/audio/tllts_221-11-28-07.ogg

Re: Michael Shiloh interview on The Linux Link Tech Show

2007-11-29 Thread Stefan Lischke
Thanx for scharing, I'm just listening, but why is the woman in background always screaming :-) Some girl from Taipeh? Patrick Davila wrote: Michael was gracious enough to come on our show and talk about the great work you guys are doing: http://www.tllts.org/audio/tllts_221-11-28-07.ogg

Michael Shiloh interview on The Linux Link Tech Show

2007-11-29 Thread Patrick Davila
I'm just listening, but why is the woman in background always screaming :-) Some girl from Taipeh? Oh, that's Dan's wife yelling at his kids. We really need to get him a microphone with an on/off switch. :) -- http://tllts.org/ - The Linux Link Tech Show

Re: need someone to develop this....

2007-11-29 Thread Tim Boneko
Robin Paulson wrote: it's a phone app that reports the remaining battery life, when shaken, by making sloshing sounds - the more battery, the more 'full' it sounds what a wonderfully inventive use of accelerometers ...and i was wondering what they would be good for. How much pot was

Re: Michael Shiloh interview on The Linux Link Tech Show

2007-11-29 Thread Michael Shiloh
Patrick Davila wrote: Michael was gracious enough to come on our show and talk about the great work you guys are doing: http://www.tllts.org/audio/tllts_221-11-28-07.ogg http://www.tllts.org/audio/tllts_221-11-28-07.mp3 Enjoy On the contrary, Patrick was gracious enough to have me on the

Re: Michael Shiloh interview on The Linux Link Tech Show

2007-11-29 Thread Michael Shiloh
Patrick Davila wrote: I haven't listened very far, so maybe it'll be said, but at what offset is the interview? The interview starts 00:02:18 into the show. It sounds like we end the interview after an hour but Michael sticks around for quite a bit longer to talk about some other topics. He

Re: need someone to develop this....

2007-11-29 Thread Jay Vaughan
what a wonderfully inventive use of accelerometers ...and i was wondering what they would be good for. feedback for controlling a live music sequencer while on stage in front of 10's of thousands of people .. How much pot was involved in the idea? probably a lot. ; -- Jay Vaughan

Re: Michael Shiloh interview on The Linux Link Tech Show

2007-11-29 Thread Ben Burdette
Patrick Davila wrote: Michael was gracious enough to come on our show and talk about the great work you guys are doing: http://www.tllts.org/audio/tllts_221-11-28-07.ogg http://www.tllts.org/audio/tllts_221-11-28-07.mp3 Enjoy I was relieved to hear that 850 mhz seems to be a sure thing -

Michael Shiloh interview on The Linux Link Tech Show

2007-11-29 Thread Patrick Davila
Gah! All my ramblings after the show were recorded as well? The show is usually 2 hours long. We try to wear down our guests so let their guard down then hit them up with the real questions. Go listen to our first interview with RMS for a perfect example :) Pat -- http://tllts.org/ - The Linux

Re: Michael Shiloh interview on The Linux Link Tech Show

2007-11-29 Thread Michael Shiloh
Ben Burdette wrote: Patrick Davila wrote: Michael was gracious enough to come on our show and talk about the great work you guys are doing: http://www.tllts.org/audio/tllts_221-11-28-07.ogg http://www.tllts.org/audio/tllts_221-11-28-07.mp3 Enjoy I was relieved to hear that 850 mhz seems

Re: Can openmoko and FIC help the Redux model 1?

2007-11-29 Thread Jay Vaughan
FIC are planning to do this with GTA02, so local resellers can distribute them instead of end users paying for international shipping and tax like us lot with our GTA01's. give me 20 phones in a neat box just like the gta01 arrived in, and i'll do my best to sell a box a week. seriously!

Re: need someone to develop this....

2007-11-29 Thread Robin Paulson
On 30/11/2007, Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what a wonderfully inventive use of accelerometers ...and i was wondering what they would be good for. feedback for controlling a live music sequencer while on stage in front of 10's of thousands of people .. original sloshing indicator

Re: Michael Shiloh interview on The Linux Link Tech Show

2007-11-29 Thread Ted Lemon
On Nov 29, 2007, at 1:24 PM, Ben Burdette wrote: I was relieved to hear that 850 mhz seems to be a sure thing - according to the interview there will be two versions of the phone, one for the US (or other 850mhz countries) and one for the rest of the world. I assume the US version will be

Re: Can openmoko and FIC help the Redux model 1?

2007-11-29 Thread andy selby
On 29/11/2007, Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: give me 20 phones in a neat box just like the gta01 arrived in, and i'll do my best to sell a box a week. seriously! The current plan is to_sell_them. seriously! ___ OpenMoko community mailing list

Re: need someone to develop this....

2007-11-29 Thread Jay Vaughan
feedback for controlling a live music sequencer while on stage in front of 10's of thousands of people .. original sloshing indicator added to the wiki wish list. Jay, would you care to elaborate on your idea, sounds interesting? well .. consider the openmoko/neo1973 device more of a re-

Canadian government opens wireless spectrum (was Re: Sean's impact being felt...)

2007-11-29 Thread Robin Paulson
On 29/11/2007, Ian Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Verizon Wireless opens up In a stunning about-face, the second-largest wireless carrier in the US, Verizon Wireless, has said that it would allow any compatible device to run on its cellular network by the end of next year. What's more, users

Re: need someone to develop this....

2007-11-29 Thread Tim Shannon
Personally, I'd like to see it blink on and off, and scream when you shook, then I could show my friends my possessed linux phone. On Nov 29, 2007 1:15 PM, Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: feedback for controlling a live music sequencer while on stage in front of 10's of thousands of

Re: Canadian government opens wireless spectrum (was Re: Sean's impact being felt...)

2007-11-29 Thread Nick Guenther
On Nov 29, 2007 2:21 PM, Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 29/11/2007, Ian Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Verizon Wireless opens up In a stunning about-face, the second-largest wireless carrier in the US, Verizon Wireless, has said that it would allow any compatible device to

Re: need someone to develop this....

2007-11-29 Thread Jay Vaughan
On Nov 29, 2007, at 8:23 PM, Tim Shannon wrote: Personally, I'd like to see it blink on and off, and scream when you shook, then I could show my friends my possessed linux phone. i bet you can do that in about 3 line of code once the gta02 arrives. ; -- Jay Vaughan

Re: /. : Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request

2007-11-29 Thread Humberto Massa
This strikes me as a uninteligible answer: 2007/11/29, t3st3r [EMAIL PROTECTED]: i wholeheartedly support this open platform that gives its users the control to turn -any- of its radios on or off at will (of the operator...). This will not help too much.Either you're not in the network or

Re: /. : Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request

2007-11-29 Thread Humberto Massa
I thought I should elaborate: 2007/11/29, Humberto Massa [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If I don't want to be located, I don't want to be called, either -- think plane mode, no radios on but MP3/AVI player on, agenda on, text editor on, etc. That is what people meant when they say turn off any of its

GPS driver for GTA01 available

2007-11-29 Thread Michael Shiloh
Hello, Thanks to a tremendous amount of hard work by many people, we have ready a release of gllin, the GPS drives. Here is how you can get it: 1. Visit http://3rdparty.downloads.openmoko.org/ Enter the gllin directory and accept the EULA 2. Download and install

Re: GPS driver for GTA01 available

2007-11-29 Thread Kyle Bassett
awesome! thanks guys! -Kyle On Nov 29, 2007 3:25 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Thanks to a tremendous amount of hard work by many people, we have ready a release of gllin, the GPS drives. Here is how you can get it: 1. Visit http://3rdparty.downloads.openmoko.org/

Re: GPS driver for GTA01 available

2007-11-29 Thread Tim Shannon
This phone is going to be so great for geoCaching. On Nov 29, 2007 2:25 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Thanks to a tremendous amount of hard work by many people, we have ready a release of gllin, the GPS drives. Here is how you can get it: 1. Visit

Re: GPS driver for GTA01 available

2007-11-29 Thread Rodolphe Ortalo
Hello, nice progress indeed. Just by curiosity, is it known if the power consumption of a GPS component (active) is important (wrt other components of the phone, like LCD screen, GSM, etc.) Rodolphe ___ OpenMoko community mailing list

Re: GPS driver for GTA01 available

2007-11-29 Thread Robin Paulson
On 30/11/2007, Rodolphe Ortalo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, nice progress indeed. Just by curiosity, is it known if the power consumption of a GPS component (active) is important (wrt other components of the phone, like LCD screen, GSM, etc.)

Re: GPS driver for GTA01 available

2007-11-29 Thread Rodolphe Ortalo
Thanks! (Did not know that page.) Rodolphe Le vendredi 30 novembre 2007 à 10:14 +1300, Robin Paulson a écrit : On 30/11/2007, Rodolphe Ortalo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, nice progress indeed. Just by curiosity, is it known if the power consumption of a GPS component (active) is

Re: GPS driver for GTA01 available

2007-11-29 Thread OJW
Another application for people to play with, while they're testing their GPS's... http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Pyroute Regards, OJW ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: GPS driver for GTA01 available

2007-11-29 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Nov 29, 2007 1:25 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to a tremendous amount of hard work by many people, we have ready a release of gllin, the GPS drives. Here is how you can get it: This is really great news! Thanks to everyone who helped to make it possible. I've already

Re: GPS driver for GTA01 available

2007-11-29 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Shawn Rutledge wrote: On Nov 29, 2007 1:25 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to a tremendous amount of hard work by many people, we have ready a release of gllin, the GPS drives. Here is how you can get it: This is really great news! Thanks to everyone who helped to make it

Re: GPS driver for GTA01 available

2007-11-29 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Shawn Rutledge wrote: On Nov 29, 2007 5:18 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I could release that, but be aware that it doesn't work. (otherwise we would never had to release the wrapper-oabi one). If you're into low-level debugging arbitrary binaries, you could help

Re: GPS driver for GTA01 available

2007-11-29 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Nov 29, 2007 5:18 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I could release that, but be aware that it doesn't work. (otherwise we would never had to release the wrapper-oabi one). If you're into low-level debugging arbitrary binaries, you could help us getting it fixed.

Re: Community Update

2007-11-29 Thread Kyle Bassett
Curiosity prevails: I do see a few benefits to a device which is just a GPS radio, like what Ian has stated. Would their be any legal ramifications to a reverse-engineered open source binary interpreter for the GPS radio? I saw a few people mention government concerns with having access to a

Re: SIM Card Copy

2007-11-29 Thread KISS Attila
Every SIM has it's unique IMSI and Ki (these are tied together), but they may have assigned the same MSISDN by HLR. If there are more cards connected, the network will route the call to the card with higher priority or to the one, which did the last location area update. The process itself is a