Re: FreeRunner Quick Start User Guide

2008-06-26 Thread Michael Shiloh
Hey! This is great. Thanks. I'll check this out. Note that the quickstart guide is due for a serious update. Michael Shakthi Kannan wrote: > Hi, > > I have prepared docbook format documentation for > http://quickstart.openmoko.org/. The .xml and generated .html is > available from: > > svn

Let us impact the material world

2008-06-26 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
Dear Community I am in Columbia. Drinking local coffee (yes Paola your coffee is the best in the world) and thinking with the early morning clarity only those blessed with jag-lag can understand. Yesterday was an amazing day. After a morning walk around the government buildings and many beautif

Re: bands

2008-06-26 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 27. Juni 2008 schrieb W.Kenworthy: > :( Well, there's probably no single provider using more than 1 (maybe 2) band. The allowed bands depend on national regulations, usually 900/1800 or 850/1900. So switching provider is what 3-band is made for. If you try to find a reality example for y

Re: bands

2008-06-26 Thread W.Kenworthy
:( Thanks, Billk On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 03:01 +0200, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: > Am Fr 27. Juni 2008 schrieb W.Kenworthy: > > How is the freerunner switched between the two frequency band triplets? > > > > Software, new image, link, factory only, ... > > > > Asking because what happens if you m

Re: bands

2008-06-26 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 27. Juni 2008 schrieb W.Kenworthy: > How is the freerunner switched between the two frequency band triplets? > > Software, new image, link, factory only, ... > > Asking because what happens if you move carriers and they support "the > other" combination? different build, factory only. No

bands

2008-06-26 Thread W.Kenworthy
How is the freerunner switched between the two frequency band triplets? Software, new image, link, factory only, ... Asking because what happens if you move carriers and they support "the other" combination? BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Slashdot post but no web store?

2008-06-26 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 26. Juni 2008 schrieb Kevin Dean: > *** > audio quailty on the headphone is lousy due to a hardware bug - as mp3 > player useless > *** Quality rating is prone to individual bias. Well, for nerds there will be projects similar to this one http://www.redwineaudio.com/iMod.html or this one htt

Re: Slashdot post but no web store?

2008-06-26 Thread christopher bradski
For those who aren't afraid of a little hacking (once I have a freerunner), I'm sure it would be possible to cut a couple traces or unsolder the original capacitors. Then replace them with something else. Like how people have been known to replace the stock capacitors in an ipod with the infamous b

Re: Slashdot post but no web store?

2008-06-26 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Mike Montour wrote: > Jisakiel wrote: >> - I understand the only problem precluding it as a DAP player is the >> speaker not muting? Or *with headphones* it is mono? I understood GTA02 >> to have a single speaker but to be stereo capable with headphones... I'd >> be devastated if wrong, or if o

Kentucky (and surrounding area) Group Sale

2008-06-26 Thread Staley, Daniel L
Alright. With the day finally approaching, the Kentucky group needs 2 more people from anywhere around the Kentucky Area (Ohio, Indiana, Tenn, Illinois, everyone is welcome!). Surely someone out there is around our area and is interested in getting a $30 discount and accessories?? -Dan _

[EMAIL PROTECTED]: OLSRD

2008-06-26 Thread Robert Schuster
Hi, you know we already have B.A.T.M.A.N in OpenEmbedded but now I gave good old OLSRD a try too. I added a recipe for the latest release 0.5.5 and tested it on the device. It is working nicely along with the ar6000 being in ad-hoc mode (the preferred mode for mesh networks ;) ). No luck with 0.5.

Re: Slashdot post but no web store?

2008-06-26 Thread Tim Coggins
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Simon Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I received my FreeRunner from Truebox today :) Congratulations, thanks for the pics! I'm starting to regret going with the community group sales option now - I'd assumed that would have been the quickest. Tim

Re: Slashdot post but no web store?

2008-06-26 Thread Tim
arne anka schrieb: > as truebox.co.uk announces having om in stock now (more or less), what > about the german distributors subscribed to this list (dr schaller and c > pulster at least): any news on freerunners received? > > ___ > Openmoko community

Re: Slashdot post but no web store?

2008-06-26 Thread Francesco Cat
Waiting for a review from a user ;) I'm a bit undecided about buying... I was wandering if buying as soon as I'm sure it works well or get it as soon as possible :P Some discussion on ML has scared me a bit :( 2008/6/26 Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > It's interesting... Your pictures are on a w

Re: Slashdot post but no web store?

2008-06-26 Thread Kosa
Oh man! so very jealous (in the good way) Would it be too much to ask you to take a vid and share it? please? Kosa - Un mundo mejor es posible - Kevin Dean escribió: It's interesting... Your pictures are on a wood background too. :) I'm jealous... I didn't get a green band around my box

Re: Slashdot post but no web store?

2008-06-26 Thread Kevin Dean
It's interesting... Your pictures are on a wood background too. :) I'm jealous... I didn't get a green band around my box... It's so fitting with the ASU theme. :) On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Simon Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Peter Strapp wrote: >> I sure hope it's for sale as I have

FR with embedded projector and LASER keyboard

2008-06-26 Thread KelleyE
In case you guys didn't notice, they didn't even change the branding on this pic: http://koolu.com/WE-Phone/WE-Phone-Features.html The mini projectors have actually gotten small enough that they could be fit inside of a phone. The laser keyboards I've seen are the size of a small phone by themsel

Re: Slashdot post but no web store?

2008-06-26 Thread Simon Moore
Peter Strapp wrote: > I sure hope it's for sale as I have a UPS tracking number from Truebox > (UK Openmoko Distributor) that says that it has been collected from > them. I'm hoping it will be in my hands tomorrow. > > Their website also states that the first batch of Freerunners have been > s

Re: FR with embedded projector and LASER keyboard

2008-06-26 Thread Atilla Filiz
It's not OSX, it is "GPhone" as the text suggests :P On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I strongly doubt that future versions will have a laser keyboard and > projector. That said, the laser keyboard exists and you can buy a > Bluetooth one. > > And since whe

Re: FR with embedded projector and LASER keyboard

2008-06-26 Thread thomasg
No matter how respected "maddog" is - Koolu distributed enough false information, so I'd not give anything about that. Let's see when they bring their Neo with Android (probably based on Hurd), google apps, built in laser-keyboard (a magical one without using optics), a projector, Duke Nukem Foreve

Re: FR with embedded projector and LASER keyboard

2008-06-26 Thread Kevin Dean
I strongly doubt that future versions will have a laser keyboard and projector. That said, the laser keyboard exists and you can buy a Bluetooth one. And since when did the freerunner run Mac OS X? :P On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Atilla Filiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Seemed fake to me. >

Re: Heller versus DC

2008-06-26 Thread George Brooke
Or maybe future US versions of the Freerunner should include a handgun builtin. solar.george from the UK On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:21:41 -0600 Joe Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Guys, this is really, really off-topic in this forum. Please, the > list traffic is heavy enough with items that

Re: FR with embedded projector and LASER keyboard

2008-06-26 Thread Atilla Filiz
Seemed fake to me. On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Francesco Cat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ?? Is this the first "fork" of an open hardware project??? > > if it is a fork, what about implementing laser keyboard and projector > in the next GTA? :P > > > 2008/6/26 Flemming Richter Mikkelsen <[EM

Re: FreeRunner Quick Start User Guide

2008-06-26 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On 2008-06-26, arne anka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Arne: > > > >> you mean, one can flash the om from an sd card, too? > >> or after booting up from sd card as described above one still needs to > >> connect to a computer? > > > > Yes, direct flash from SD card without USB. > > that's prett

Re: FR with embedded projector and LASER keyboard

2008-06-26 Thread Francesco Cat
?? Is this the first "fork" of an open hardware project??? if it is a fork, what about implementing laser keyboard and projector in the next GTA? :P 2008/6/26 Flemming Richter Mikkelsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > http://koolu.com/WE-Phone/GET-YOUR-FREE-W.E.-SMART-PHONE.html > "The current generation

FR with embedded projector and LASER keyboard

2008-06-26 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
http://koolu.com/WE-Phone/GET-YOUR-FREE-W.E.-SMART-PHONE.html "The current generation of the phone does not include the laser keyboard or built in projector. The Laser keyboard is sold separatey. The next generation of the phone will incorporate the laser keyboard and tiny LED projector built in."

Re: Group Sales and Technical Questions

2008-06-26 Thread Stroller
On 26 Jun 2008, at 17:38, Yuval Levy wrote: > Hi, interested newbie here. > > Is Group Sales still open? Wikis are self-editable. Add yourself to the list and see if anyone local is organising a group order. IMO if you're not in a group order already

Re:Heller versus DC

2008-06-26 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Guys, this is really, really off-topic in this forum. Please, the list traffic is heavy enough with items that are germaine, let's not get into this branch of politics ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.ope

Re: FreeRunner Quick Start User Guide

2008-06-26 Thread arne anka
> Hi Arne: > >> you mean, one can flash the om from an sd card, too? >> or after booting up from sd card as described above one still needs to >> connect to a computer? > > Yes, direct flash from SD card without USB. that's pretty nice -- though i cannot imagine how one would corrupt one's om in

Re: FreeRunner Quick Start User Guide

2008-06-26 Thread Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu)
Hi Arne: > you mean, one can flash the om from an sd card, too? > or after booting up from sd card as described above one still needs to > connect to a computer? Yes, direct flash from SD card without USB. Tony Tu (Neng-Yu Tu) ___ Openmoko community

Re: Heller versus DC

2008-06-26 Thread robert lazarski
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My apologies, auto-completion took the wrong "li". > > That was not meant for the list. I really need to stop using Gmail. :( > ok, fair enough. Now the genie is in the OM list, I suppose it would too much to ask to move this

Re: Heller versus DC

2008-06-26 Thread John Mark Walker
I'm sure your crap analysis holds great weight in the constitutional law community. Take it elsewhere, please. -JM On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Supreme Court made a ruling today on the Heller versus DC case and > affirmed for the first time since 1

Re: Heller versus DC

2008-06-26 Thread Kevin Dean
My apologies, auto-completion took the wrong "li". That was not meant for the list. I really need to stop using Gmail. :( On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 12:58 PM, arne anka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > though i don't understand how this is related in any way the use of om > phones, the first thing cross

Re: Heller versus DC

2008-06-26 Thread Richard Reichenbacher
Although totally off topic, yey. I'm going shooting today in celebration. On Jun 26, 2008, at 9:52 AM, Kevin Dean wrote: > The Supreme Court made a ruling today on the Heller versus DC case and > affirmed for the first time since 1791 when the second amendement > passed - the right to own guns

Re: Heller versus DC

2008-06-26 Thread arne anka
though i don't understand how this is related in any way the use of om phones, the first thing crossing my mind was: "finally". anyway, i think it is _ totally_ off topic On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:52:54 +0200, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Supreme Court made a ruling today on the H

Heller versus DC

2008-06-26 Thread Kevin Dean
The Supreme Court made a ruling today on the Heller versus DC case and affirmed for the first time since 1791 when the second amendement passed - the right to own guns is an INDIVIDUAL right of all Americans. Of course, it wasn't super special, since it did make it clear that some prohibition is ac

Group Sales and Technical Questions

2008-06-26 Thread Yuval Levy
Hi, interested newbie here. Is Group Sales still open? I am in Canada, but would prefer a world model (900/1800/1900MHz) rather than an North American model (850/1800/1900MHz). Is it possible to put a world model in a box of North American models? The

Re: FreeRunner Quick Start User Guide

2008-06-26 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 26 June 2008, Brian C wrote: > BrendaWang wrote: > > Here is the getting start guide from wiki. > > > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner > > In the Flashing the Freerunner section it says, "You can use the USB > cable and Openmoko provided tool to f

Re: about openmoko input method

2008-06-26 Thread Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu)
xiangfu wrote: > there are another two question: > 1. where is the code of read SIM card contacts. i want it can read Chinese. >there is some different between English and Chinese store in SIM card. > olv (Chia-I Wu) already done read chinese few months ago, maybe you should ask applicatin q

Re: about openmoko input method

2008-06-26 Thread Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu)
xiangfu wrote: > there are another two question: > 1. where is the code of read SIM card contacts. i want it can read Chinese. >there is some different between English and Chinese store in SIM card. > olv already done read chinese few months ago, maybe you should ask applicatin question in o

Re: FreeRunner Quick Start User Guide

2008-06-26 Thread arne anka
> Yes, even under all NAND flash is empty/content distroyed. You could > still using boot from NOR function (a backup u-boot in NOR flash), and > using boot from SD card function into full system, then re-flashing NAND. you mean, one can flash the om from an sd card, too? or after booting up from

Re: Slashdot post but no web store?

2008-06-26 Thread arne anka
as truebox.co.uk announces having om in stock now (more or less), what about the german distributors subscribed to this list (dr schaller and c pulster at least): any news on freerunners received? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.o

Re: FreeRunner Quick Start User Guide

2008-06-26 Thread arne anka
>> (And then I think it might also be true that the flashing tool is >> currently only available for GNU/Linux. Is that right?) >> >> Brian >> > But I'm sure you can flash the neo with the debugboard too... for > example. and somebody pointed out, the tool ist available for macos as well.

Re: FreeRunner Quick Start User Guide

2008-06-26 Thread Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu)
> I'm curious about the use of the word "can". Is it possible to flash > the Freerunner from the device itself, without using the USB cable > connected to another GNU/Linux host? Yes, even under all NAND flash is empty/content distroyed. You could still using boot from NOR function (a backup u-

Re: FreeRunner Quick Start User Guide

2008-06-26 Thread enaut
Brian C schrieb: > BrendaWang wrote: > >> Here is the getting start guide from wiki. >> >> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner >> > > In the Flashing the Freerunner section it says, "You can use the USB > cable and Openmoko provided tool to flash Neo FreeR

Re: Slashdot post but no web store?

2008-06-26 Thread Alastair Johnson
Marcelo wrote: > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> From what I've heard, SOME distributors have been notified that >> Freerunner devices are being shipped to those retailers. Retailers >> need to have a product in stock in order to sell it on the day it is

Delay issue [solved]

2008-06-26 Thread Kosa
Well, it looks like the issue is solved and I want to thank whoever fix it. Kosa - Un mundo mejor es posible - ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: FreeRunner Quick Start User Guide

2008-06-26 Thread Brian C
BrendaWang wrote: > Here is the getting start guide from wiki. > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner In the Flashing the Freerunner section it says, "You can use the USB cable and Openmoko provided tool to flash Neo FreeRunner." I'm curious about the use of t

Re: Slashdot post but no web store?

2008-06-26 Thread Francesco Cat
me too... I would like to try it out :P BTW: can I be sure that I will be able to make a phone call without problems or is it still under development? It was not so clear to me due to high confusion made about this topic in the mailing list... 2008/6/26 Marcelo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, Jun

Re: Slashdot post but no web store?

2008-06-26 Thread Marcelo
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From what I've heard, SOME distributors have been notified that > Freerunner devices are being shipped to those retailers. Retailers > need to have a product in stock in order to sell it on the day it is > released, that is w

Re: FreeRunner Quick Start User Guide

2008-06-26 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi! --- On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 8:28 AM, BrendaWang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner \-- Thanks! SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list c

Re: FreeRunner Quick Start User Guide

2008-06-26 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
It looks very nice! Great job:) On 2008-06-26, BrendaWang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here is the getting start guide from wiki. > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner > > > Shakthi Kannan 提到: > > Hi! > > > > --- On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus

about openmoko input method

2008-06-26 Thread xiangfu
there are another two question: 1. where is the code of read SIM card contacts. i want it can read Chinese. there is some different between English and Chinese store in SIM card. 2. Is there Auto Text in openmoko. like "adn" it can auto change to "and". is have this function, i can simply in