Re: OpenMooCow 0.1
I was about to put this on the wiki but I was thinking, would this be classified as a 'game'? It's the closest category to toy IMO [1]. -Nick 1. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Applications Thomas White wrote: I'm pleased to be able to announce version 0.1 of my advanced accelerometer and audio framework testing system, OpenMooCow. Available from http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~taw27/openmoko/openmoocow/ When installed and run, OpenMooCow displays an artistic rendition of a fine specimen of Friesian dairy cattle. Invert the device and return it to an upright orientation to experience the pinnacle of audio rendering kwality. The sound effect can be altered by putting a suitable WAV file in /usr/share/openmoocow/moo.wav. A credit is due to Chris Hendricks who is the author of the original sound file (obtained from www.flashkit.com). Comments/abuse to this address. Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[om2008.x] qcop service send Launcher execute\(QString\) dialer crash
Sorry but I deleted the previous thread that this was related to. The problem for me seems to be a missing ld.so.cache. libqtsvg also claimed to be up-to-date regardless of a later version being available. Whoever it was saying they had a similar problem, try running ldconfig. If you want to upgrade libqtsvg you will have to -force-depends remove the existing one and then simply opkg install qtopia-phone-x11-libqtsvg. Now, back to root of the problem, seeing as ld.so.cache resides in volatile, is it suppose to be generated on boot or should there be another copy somewhere else? Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved
Matthias Apitz ha scritto: El día Wednesday, October 15, 2008 a las 02:25:04AM +0200, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) escribió: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Lorn Potter wrote: Hello, I finally found a place in the qtopia sources where I could put code for activating the echo suppression for every incoming/outgoing call. I'm quite sure that experienced qtopia programmers would find a better place for it. A better place for stuff needed for a particular modem, would be in the phone vendor plugin. That's what its there for. Not to defray this patch, but this is very calypso specific, and not part of the GSM spec. (although any other modem would most likely just spit out an error) I agree... That's why some weeks ago I started something like that but I've not pushed out the code yet... I'll attach as soon as I can. Ok, a first implementation is now at ticket #1267 May I ask you kindly for a binary (shared lib) for those of us who at the moment don't compile from SVN; thanks in advance; matthias Here you are [1]. It includes also the mwester fix for re-registering network and my workaround for GSM firmware crash. I hope it won't have any incompatibility with your installed Qtopia... [1] http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/libficgta01vendor-echo-cancellation.so.tar.gz -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko to shift to 2.6.27 kernel ?
Joel Newkirk wrote: On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 07:05:59 +0200, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) Isn't there a way to update/configure the NOR u-Boot too? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing_NOR The NOR image sample there is a broken link now. I'm presuming that it's NOT just the same u-boot bin as is flashed to NAND either, so it looks like doing this is possible but not simple, and most of us wouldn't be equipped to do it. (lacking debug board to enable write mode) Mh, ok... So the debug board is absolutely needed... :/ I figure I'll continue with my NAND... :) -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMooCow 0.1
This has now shot to my favourite app. I wonder if we could make the 'moo' earlier. I assume you're trying to replicate those little toys that make the same kind of noise when you do the same thing. Otherwise I agree with Craig though - it really should be OpenMooKow ;-) -Nick Thomas White wrote: I'm pleased to be able to announce version 0.1 of my advanced accelerometer and audio framework testing system, OpenMooCow. Available from http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~taw27/openmoko/openmoocow/ When installed and run, OpenMooCow displays an artistic rendition of a fine specimen of Friesian dairy cattle. Invert the device and return it to an upright orientation to experience the pinnacle of audio rendering kwality. The sound effect can be altered by putting a suitable WAV file in /usr/share/openmoocow/moo.wav. A credit is due to Chris Hendricks who is the author of the original sound file (obtained from www.flashkit.com). Comments/abuse to this address. Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthias Apitz ha scritto: El día Wednesday, October 15, 2008 a las 02:25:04AM +0200, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) escribió: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Lorn Potter wrote: Hello, I finally found a place in the qtopia sources where I could put code for activating the echo suppression for every incoming/outgoing call. I'm quite sure that experienced qtopia programmers would find a better place for it. A better place for stuff needed for a particular modem, would be in the phone vendor plugin. That's what its there for. Not to defray this patch, but this is very calypso specific, and not part of the GSM spec. (although any other modem would most likely just spit out an error) I agree... That's why some weeks ago I started something like that but I've not pushed out the code yet... I'll attach as soon as I can. Ok, a first implementation is now at ticket #1267 May I ask you kindly for a binary (shared lib) for those of us who at the moment don't compile from SVN; thanks in advance; matthias Here you are [1]. It includes also the mwester fix for re-registering network and my workaround for GSM firmware crash. I hope it won't have any incompatibility with your installed Qtopia... [1] http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/libficgta01vendor-echo-cancellation.so.tar.gz Can I try it with qtextended? Instructions for installation? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accelsense.org (accelerometer-based gestures)
Hi Paul, great effort and a good example of community driven invention! Will the project be available to the debian distro too or in other words, are there hard dependencies on the 2008.x distros? Cheers /peter GTalk:neubauer.peter Skypepeter.neubauer ICQ18762544 Phone +46704 106975 LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/neubauer Twitter http://twitter.com/peterneubauer http://www.neo4j.org - New Energy for Data - the Graph Database. http://www.ops4j.org - New Energy for OSS Communities - Open Participation Software. http://www.qi4j.org- New Energy for Java - Domain Driven Development. On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Paul V. Borza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, A couple of people asked me whether I will or won't continue my project on accelerometer-based gestures. My answer was always yes, and to make that clear, I've bought accelsense.com, and accelsense.org. The code has moved from http://code.google.com/p/accelges/ into a GIT repository located at http://repo.accelsense.org. I'm now in the first year of masters, and I've managed to get two of my courses into the accelerometer-based gestures (i.e. to implement this as homework). From now on, my professors require me to use SOMs (i.e. self-organizing maps, a type of neural networks), instead of hidden Markov models. A couple of you guys asked whether the efficiency and speed can be improved using HMMs. Again, the answer is yes, just that I don't have time to work on the HMM implementation anymore. Just wanted to let you know that from now on, I'll focus exclusively on working with the Neo, rather than the Wii to test the gestures; and make them smooth and natural. Nokia is using SOMs for gesture recognition in mobile phones, so we should be on the technology wave as I can tell (still, I'm just one guy). What I'll focus on in the 0.2 release: * use some code from the rotate application that is flying around. * keep the current Dbus system for interaction. * 10% of CPU (it's now using 20%), and yes it's doable. * no GUI, but change the text console UI to be something like 'top', and not just printf hundreds of xyz data. * reintegrate with matlab-compatible diagrams. * will still be in C99 and under LGPL. * math formulas that are used in code will have a link to http://wiki.accelsense.org/wiki/page and the formula will be written in LaTex. * some of you gave me advices on how to improve the organization of the project, will also do that. * some dependencies aren't checked, there are too many you say, will be removed. * integration with the freesmartphone.org Dbus FSO communication system (I've seen that it grew since I last checked it). * implementation of self-organizing maps. Bottom line: I'll be trying turn it in a mature project ;) You can do interesting things with SOMs, like Nokia was doing: detecting when the user climbs down, up or walks, just using an accelerometer. Thanks, Paul ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved
El día Wednesday, October 15, 2008 a las 08:18:40AM +0200, Marco Trevisan
(Treviño) escribió:
Here you are [1]. It includes also the mwester fix for re-registering
network and my workaround for GSM firmware crash. I hope it won't have
any incompatibility with your installed Qtopia...
[1]
http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/libficgta01vendor-echo-cancellation.so.tar.gz
Thanks for this. I've installed it this way:
# cd /opt/Qtopia/plugins/phonevendors/
# mv libficgta01vendor.so libficgta01vendor.so.orig
# mv ~/libficgta01vendor.so .
# /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart
interestingly the restart did not asked again for the PIN of the SIM (a
full re-boot does);
during outgoing call one now hears some noise like you have sometimes
when radio wafes of a GSM is affecting a normal phone call;
when I change in gsmhandset.state the section 'control.4' to values
control.4 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 2
comment.range '0 - 127'
iface MIXER
name 'Speaker Playback Volume'
value.0 127
value.1 127
}
the outgoing RING tone nearly killed my ear; with 111 for value.[01] it is
fine, but with the above described noise; what is your gsmhandset.state file for
this? thx again
matthias
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Why kdrive ?
Hi I just recieved an interesting mail in the Xorg MailingList this was the contents : Why not just go for the full X11? Memory wise I found no difference in the memory usage between X11 and kdrive on the OMAP. I am told that the full Xorg isn't very happy when built against uClibc. So here's my question, if the memory footprint of kdrive is the same as the full xorg, why choose kdrive over the full xorg ? There might be interesing features in the full server that aren't there in kdrive. Plus I've read here that the X driver has got duplicate code in the X driver from the framebuffer, so there's no really gain in term of size of the driver either... So here's my question if I am totally wrong or asked a totally stupid question I am sorry, as I don't know all the implications. signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMooCow 0.1
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:21:19 +1000 nickd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has now shot to my favourite app. I wonder if we could make the 'moo' earlier. I assume you're trying to replicate those little toys that make the same kind of noise when you do the same thing. Yes - originally I planned to do a full emulation of the physics that goes on inside a proper moobox, and to vary the pitch and volume depending on the speed of the flap inside. Then I realised that that was a bit harder than I have time for at the moment so it's saved for a later version. If you look in the source code, you'll see data structures and methods completely over-engineered for what it actually does at the moment... Tom -- Thomas White Department of Materials Science and Metallurgy Electron Microscopy Group (PhD Student) University of Cambridge / Downing College ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Om2008.9] Spanish keyboard?
Hello, On my normal FreeBSD / KDE based laptops I have instructed the X server with a small script: $ cat xmod.sh # # $Id: xmod.sh,v 1.1 2008/08/25 10:04:41 guru Exp $ # # para español: # xmodmap -e keycode 0x73 = Mode_switch xmodmap -e keycode 0x39 = n N ntilde Ntilde xmodmap -e keycode 0x1a = e E eacute Eacute xmodmap -e keycode 0x26 = a A aacute Aacute xmodmap -e keycode 0x1f = i I iacute Iacute xmodmap -e keycode 0x1e = u U uacute Uacute xmodmap -e keycode 0x20 = o O oacute Oacute xmodmap -e keycode 0x14 = questiondown question backslash ssharp xmodmap -e keycode 0x0a = 1 exclam exclamdown onesuperior # xmodmap -e keycode 94 = less greater guillemotleft guillemotright bar brokenbar to enhance a bit the keyboard; you fire it up when X11 is up and it changes the keyboard for all clients; this change makes the so called Windows-key (for the very 1st time) something useful: pressing and holding it down it gives for example for the key 'n' the Spanish key 'ñ' (i.e. a 'n' with that small snake line above); I'd like to have this as well with the Ilume keyboard in my FR; any idea how to do that? Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMooCow 0.1
I'm getting this error on OM2008.9 stable: openmoocow: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Solved with opkg install libsdl-1.2-0 Thanks for this cute toy!!! :D Remark: shouldn't it moo both ways (up and down)? presently it only moos when I turn it back to upright position... :( Citando Thomas White [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm pleased to be able to announce version 0.1 of my advanced accelerometer and audio framework testing system, OpenMooCow. Available from http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~taw27/openmoko/openmoocow/ When installed and run, OpenMooCow displays an artistic rendition of a fine specimen of Friesian dairy cattle. Invert the device and return it to an upright orientation to experience the pinnacle of audio rendering kwality. The sound effect can be altered by putting a suitable WAV file in /usr/share/openmoocow/moo.wav. A credit is due to Chris Hendricks who is the author of the original sound file (obtained from www.flashkit.com). Comments/abuse to this address. Tom -- Thomas White Department of Materials Science and Metallurgy Electron Microscopy Group (PhD Student) University of Cambridge / Downing College ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko to shift to 2.6.27 kernel ?
Andy, On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're interested to visit the edge and know how to DFU stuff around with NOR to get yourself in and out of trouble, you can get a moredrivers kernel here http://people.openmoko.org/andy/uImage-moredrivers-andy-tracking_2ffb4cc483642df1.bin I dfu-util'led this into my 'kernel' partition, and also the qi image into by u-boot. After that, the red led started flashing. IIRC that means that there is no kernel to boot. I then panicked and replaced the u-boot with the one from OM20080917. That didn't help, so I also DFU'd the kernel from OM20080917. That fixed my phone (I could boot again!), but I'm left wondering what I did wrong... AFAIK I can just do 'sudo dfu-util -D uImage-moredrivers-andy-tracking_2ffb4cc483642df1.bin -a kernel -R' to flash your kernel, but that may not be the case... Christ van Willegen (who sometimes likes to be on the edge, and will re-flash with QI again tonight...) -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Weekly Engineering News 41/2008: back to the basics
i meet you there :) let's hope this event is as soon as posible ;) . Vasco Névoa schrieb: I couldn't be happier!!! OM is listening indeed. :D I know a few people will probably be disappointed because the eye-candy won't get much attention for the next few months, but I know that as soon as everybody start reaping the benefits of the Neo as a lean-and-mean-robust-machine then our love for the OM project and the faith on OM products will grow exponentially, not only inside the community, but also outside. We will finally be able to show the public what this project is about, without suffering inappropriate comments such as what, you can't pick up a call on your new phone??... ;) People often fail to see the beauty when in presence of a small spec of dirt. The day I see my Neo booting in 5 seconds or less with a rock-solid audio and networking stack (including wifi) and no standby/resume problems... Woohooo, I'll fly from Portugal to Taipei myself and pay a round of beers to the OM people!!! :D :D Citando Risto H. Kurppa [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi! Just want to make sure everyone knows that the weekly engineering news has been released again, see http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1336450|a1336450 I want to highlight this: We decided to focus our engineering on just the basics, even less eye candy: Robust kernel, fast boot time, basic telephony with great audio quality, powerful configuration from the command line, hardware quality. That's it. We will stop working on our Installer, Locations, Diversity and Settings applications. We will get back to all this when the rest is rock solid, but now is not the time. Feel free to pickup any of these projects in the meantime I suppose this is generally a good thing to let the community do what it can do (as long as community has the tools and so on to do it) and Openmoko focus on the core stuff. Comments? r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Weekly Engineering News 41/2008: back to the basics
And we better make it in the hotel, because we'll never be able to walk out ;) Rui On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 02:37:38PM +0100, Vasco Névoa wrote: You, me, and Schindler makes 3. I guess by the time this actually happens, it'll be a large party!! :) Citando Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 02:01:01PM +0100, Vasco Névoa wrote: The day I see my Neo booting in 5 seconds or less with a rock-solid audio and networking stack (including wifi) and no standby/resume problems... Woohooo, I'll fly from Portugal to Taipei myself and pay a round of beers to the OM people!!! :D :D I'll join you! That way even more rounds of beer happen ;) Rui -- Wibble. Today is Pungenday, the 69th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- This statement is false. Today is Pungenday, the 69th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Weekly Engineering News 41/2008: back to the basics
Risto H. Kurppa wrote: (...) Comments? This is the best thing I have read about Openmoko development since a long time : Openmoko Inc. focusing on parts where money has real value : core stuff, which needs high qualifications and good coders. Week-end coders will then build their toy on the great base, seemingly missing up to now. Real good news for me ! Regards, OdyX -- Swisslinux.org − Le carrefour GNU/Linux en Suisse − http://www.swisslinux.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] Auxlaunch
yes a wiki is quite necessary... d On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 7:56 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: This is beautiful. Thanks! It is very simple, very flexible, and easy to configure. On top of that, it makes a great example program. If you have time to write up a wiki page that would be great. Otherwise, I'll add it to my list. Michael Al Iasid wrote: Hi, I wanted a simple, very finger-friendly app launcher for my Freerunner running Debian. I also wanted to access it using the Aux button. So, I mixed code from the PyGTK hello world example with code from matchbox-keyboard-toggle and came up with Auxlaunch. A screenshot and download link is at aliasid.googlepages.com/auxlaunch http://aliasid.googlepages.com/auxlaunch if you're interested. At first, it minimizes and waits for the Aux button to be pressed. Then, it pops up full screen and shows 3 large buttons. You use the up and down buttons to change the top button. Press the top button and the selected app starts. You can configure the choices by editing the .auxlaunchrc text file. I added an item for Suspend (apm -s), too. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: looking for a mentor
sorry, i'm not your mentor, just a hint: why something not related to the ui/distro? just something that will work quite everywhere? (i'm thinking about my wonderful debian) sorry for being slightly OT. d On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Mathieu Rochette [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hello, I'm currently studying computer sciences and Human-computer-interaction; This year we have to do a project (about two month full-time). I intended to propose my own project which is an implementation of a dasher-like keyboard for the freerunner (receive mine a week ago :D ), probably as an enlightenment module (as I think is the current keyboard of illume). And I recently learn that I need to have a mentor from a society or organisation. I think required work from the mentor is similar to mentor for the google summer of code. So I'm asking if someone from openmoko is intersted to mentor me. Feel free to ask me any questions, this afternoon I'll be able to join the #openmoko chan. thx to every one, Mathieu. -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.x] GPRS Instructions on the Wiki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Benedikt Schindler wrote: Arigead schrieb: [...] From a clean flash of a 2008 Daily from last week: Om2008.8-gta02-20080903.uImage.bin Om2008.8-gta02-20081007.rootfs.jffs2 And executing the commands echo nameserver 208.67.222.222 /etc/resolv.conf echo nameserver 208.67.220.220 /etc/resolv.conf echo arch base 50 /etc/opkg/angstrom-feed.conf echo src/gz base http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv opkg update opkg install gpsd opkg install gsm0710muxd [...] try not to add the hole repositorie. just make a opkg install http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/gsm0710muxd_0.9.1+r0-gitr3ff86b129640b647ccba3d86eb243d864671b039-r0_armv4t.ipk Ok that opkg install command you gave me won't install due to the dependencies so I went to the pages mentioned in GPRS on the wiki to pull in those. Now for the life of me I can't remember if the [2008.*] FR is using uClibc or glibc. I know I should know this already but don't and can't see it mentioned anywhere. Asked on #openmoko but got no response. Anybody know which packages I should install? I looked in /etc/opkg/arch.conf but no indication. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFI9f5tXlbjSJ5n4BARAkUqAJ9NRcNXeq6a/xU9Tzs8DlqmH0RaNACeJrgu uY20sVS8bI25BRVtLyjAHOE= =AJW1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accelsense.org (accelerometer-based gestures)
I forgot to mention: 7 - device rotation (for screen orientation and OpenMooCow) :) Citando Vasco Névoa [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Paul. Your tenacity is indeed an example. Congratulations on the fusion of your academic and hacking lives! :) I don't want to burden you even more, but I'd like to remind you of a couple of details that may turn out to be important in the long run. One thing I would like to see come true is the implementation of an accelerometer framework that is flexible enough to accommodate all kinds of usage, not just gestures, and you are basically sitting on it (horay!!!). :) Examples: 1 - human gestures; 2 - seismic vibrations (distributed earth quake detection), see [1]; 3 - travel dead reckoning, whether of humans, human-powered vehicles, or motorized vehicles; 4 - road comfort level and trail quality level assessment (Z-axis vibration for geo map tagging); 5 - morse tapping (for awkward emergencies, you never know...); 6 - anything else you may think of in the future... My point is, please at least _try_ to include in your design some kind of easily extensible framework, possibly allowing dynamic plugins or at least compile-in modules, and package your specific gestures work as the first modules. And obviously, the ability to support multiple kinds of listener clients at the same time. I know it is a lot to ask, but I think it is very well worth it. The future community will thank you very much! :) Happy hacking!!! :D [1] http://n2.nabble.com/Idea-for-Openmoko-application%3A-seismic-sensor-network-tp1106366p1106366.html Vasco. Citando Paul V. Borza [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi everyone, A couple of people asked me whether I will or won't continue my project on accelerometer-based gestures. My answer was always yes, and to make that clear, I've bought accelsense.com, and accelsense.org. The code has moved from http://code.google.com/p/accelges/ into a GIT repository located at http://repo.accelsense.org. I'm now in the first year of masters, and I've managed to get two of my courses into the accelerometer-based gestures (i.e. to implement this as homework). From now on, my professors require me to use SOMs (i.e. self-organizing maps, a type of neural networks), instead of hidden Markov models. A couple of you guys asked whether the efficiency and speed can be improved using HMMs. Again, the answer is yes, just that I don't have time to work on the HMM implementation anymore. Just wanted to let you know that from now on, I'll focus exclusively on working with the Neo, rather than the Wii to test the gestures; and make them smooth and natural. Nokia is using SOMs for gesture recognition in mobile phones, so we should be on the technology wave as I can tell (still, I'm just one guy). What I'll focus on in the 0.2 release: * use some code from the rotate application that is flying around. * keep the current Dbus system for interaction. * 10% of CPU (it's now using 20%), and yes it's doable. * no GUI, but change the text console UI to be something like 'top', and not just printf hundreds of xyz data. * reintegrate with matlab-compatible diagrams. * will still be in C99 and under LGPL. * math formulas that are used in code will have a link to http://wiki.accelsense.org/wiki/page and the formula will be written in LaTex. * some of you gave me advices on how to improve the organization of the project, will also do that. * some dependencies aren't checked, there are too many you say, will be removed. * integration with the freesmartphone.org Dbus FSO communication system (I've seen that it grew since I last checked it). * implementation of self-organizing maps. Bottom line: I'll be trying turn it in a mature project ;) You can do interesting things with SOMs, like Nokia was doing: detecting when the user climbs down, up or walks, just using an accelerometer. Thanks, Paul ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMooCow 0.1
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Joseph Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just loaded this onto a colleagues phone - he said he wanted a cat and suggested the name OpenMeowKo OpenNeKo, for our japanese friends? ;) (well, this thread is clearly getting nowhere. I like it) -- Olivier M. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: looking for a mentor
So I'm asking if someone from openmoko is intersted to mentor me. Feel free to ask me any questions, this afternoon I'll be able to join the #openmoko chan. Sorry for the indiscretion, but what 'afternoon' means on a list whose members live on any place around the world? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why kdrive ?
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:29:38 +0100 Graeme Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I may have mangled the history a little here, but this is the basics I hope. When we first started on this kdrive/tinyX was the playground for new features within the xorg/xf86 family. xorg didn't support touchscreens, or a configless running. The lack of these features was a killer because making a user construct an xorg.conf on device was a pain. kdrive also had the RENDER extension so people could play with shinies. Xglamo was then created in the kdrive family. Now OM is going to invest some time in investigating if Xorg or Kdrive is the best path forward in the future. Xorg has acheived some level of configless running. Has touchscreen drivers. And the shinies extensions. It is being used on other embedded boards built from OE as well. Graeme Makes sense at that time. Nowadays kdrive doesn't seems to be a solution if I refer the the thread in the Xorg MailingList. ^^ It appears that kdrive rendering method KAA has been removed because EXA is much better. Well, in the case of openmoko, this would mean changing the driver for it to work with xorg. (nearly coding a new driver). On the other hand this would mean a modular X server, with graphic drivers loaded as needed, which means broader support without having to compile a X server per device (as kdrive is compile time configuration). That would correct some bugs I saw about keyboards not recognized by Xglamo and so on. Anyway seriously thinking about migrating to Xorg is not a bad idea itself but would mean a lot of work from openmoko because the community cannot help without the specs... too bad... signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMooCow 0.1
sorry I can't understand what this software is. is there a video or image aviable? 2008/10/15 Joseph Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I just loaded this onto a colleagues phone - he said he wanted a cat and suggested the name OpenMeowKo :) 2008/10/14 Thomas White [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm pleased to be able to announce version 0.1 of my advanced accelerometer and audio framework testing system, OpenMooCow. Available from http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~taw27/openmoko/openmoocow/ When installed and run, OpenMooCow displays an artistic rendition of a fine specimen of Friesian dairy cattle. Invert the device and return it to an upright orientation to experience the pinnacle of audio rendering kwality. The sound effect can be altered by putting a suitable WAV file in /usr/share/openmoocow/moo.wav. A credit is due to Chris Hendricks who is the author of the original sound file (obtained from www.flashkit.com). Comments/abuse to this address. Tom -- Thomas White Department of Materials Science and Metallurgy Electron Microscopy Group (PhD Student) University of Cambridge / Downing College ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.x] GPRS Instructions on the Wiki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sarton O'Brien wrote: On Wednesday 15 October 2008 00:54:45 Arigead wrote: Configuring libdbus-glib-1-2 Collected errors: * Package libgobject-2.0-0 wants to install file /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 But that file is already provided by package * libglib-2.0-0 Maybe the above is not a problem but if you've any advice I'll be very happy to get it opkg -force-depends remove libglib-2.0-0 opkg install libgobject-2.0-0 And if it doesn't pull libglib back in: opkg install libglib-2.0-0 From memory, after the first two commands, it should sort itself out. As long as you put back what gets removed, all should be well. Sarton Thanks a million I've gotten gsm0710muxd in now anyhow. Thanks for those two lines. I'll go through the rest of the instructions and edit the wiki page when I get to the end of this. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFI9gurXlbjSJ5n4BARAqB7AJ98IKCjVwSIR+WsQ2ljxBUS/sHm2gCgnN9z +DwxBe2KSzoQTfb6FNBGCXE= =R+42 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMooCow 0.1
Thomas White wrote: I'm pleased to be able to announce version 0.1 of my advanced accelerometer and audio framework testing system, OpenMooCow. Available from http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~taw27/openmoko/openmoocow/ When installed and run, OpenMooCow displays an artistic rendition of a fine specimen of Friesian dairy cattle. Invert the device and return it to an upright orientation to experience the pinnacle of audio rendering kwality. The sound effect can be altered by putting a suitable WAV file in /usr/share/openmoocow/moo.wav. A credit is due to Chris Hendricks who is the author of the original sound file (obtained from www.flashkit.com). Comments/abuse to this address. Tom Wonderfully silly, thanks! On FSO it couldn't find the audio device so I modprobed snd_pcm_oss and snd_mixer_oss. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMooCow 0.1
As far as I understand, it should mimick that toy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GQ126DUsyQNR=1 Xav On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 17:19 +0200, Thomas Bertani wrote: sorry I can't understand what this software is. is there a video or image aviable? 2008/10/15 Joseph Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I just loaded this onto a colleagues phone - he said he wanted a cat and suggested the name OpenMeowKo :) 2008/10/14 Thomas White [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm pleased to be able to announce version 0.1 of my advanced accelerometer and audio framework testing system, OpenMooCow. Available from http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~taw27/openmoko/openmoocow/ When installed and run, OpenMooCow displays an artistic rendition of a fine specimen of Friesian dairy cattle. Invert the device and return it to an upright orientation to experience the pinnacle of audio rendering kwality. The sound effect can be altered by putting a suitable WAV file in /usr/share/openmoocow/moo.wav. A credit is due to Chris Hendricks who is the author of the original sound file (obtained from www.flashkit.com). Comments/abuse to this address. Tom -- Thomas White Department of Materials Science and Metallurgy Electron Microscopy Group (PhD Student) University of Cambridge / Downing College ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Weekly Engineering News 41/2008: back to the basics
It's deffinitly good news - missing/buggy user level apps can be written/fixed by community quickly and easy on their own hand, but stable core must be provided by Openmoko stuff (of course with help from community ;D) I'm waiting for fix to the glamo-mci problem with some sd card :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Om2008.9] using qtmail on command line
Hello, I figured out that 'qtmail' is the application for sending SMS (and other messages); is there a way to SSH to the FR and send a SMS from the command line, for example like: $ ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# qtmail +491704527211 Hello World or even: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# qtmail +491704527211 file That would be nice, I think matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accelsense.org (accelerometer-based gestures)
Hi Paul. Your tenacity is indeed an example. Congratulations on the fusion of your academic and hacking lives! :) I don't want to burden you even more, but I'd like to remind you of a couple of details that may turn out to be important in the long run. One thing I would like to see come true is the implementation of an accelerometer framework that is flexible enough to accommodate all kinds of usage, not just gestures, and you are basically sitting on it (horay!!!). :) Examples: 1 - human gestures; 2 - seismic vibrations (distributed earth quake detection), see [1]; 3 - travel dead reckoning, whether of humans, human-powered vehicles, or motorized vehicles; 4 - road comfort level and trail quality level assessment (Z-axis vibration for geo map tagging); 5 - morse tapping (for awkward emergencies, you never know...); 6 - anything else you may think of in the future... My point is, please at least _try_ to include in your design some kind of easily extensible framework, possibly allowing dynamic plugins or at least compile-in modules, and package your specific gestures work as the first modules. And obviously, the ability to support multiple kinds of listener clients at the same time. I know it is a lot to ask, but I think it is very well worth it. The future community will thank you very much! :) Happy hacking!!! :D [1] http://n2.nabble.com/Idea-for-Openmoko-application%3A-seismic-sensor-network-tp1106366p1106366.html Vasco. Citando Paul V. Borza [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi everyone, A couple of people asked me whether I will or won't continue my project on accelerometer-based gestures. My answer was always yes, and to make that clear, I've bought accelsense.com, and accelsense.org. The code has moved from http://code.google.com/p/accelges/ into a GIT repository located at http://repo.accelsense.org. I'm now in the first year of masters, and I've managed to get two of my courses into the accelerometer-based gestures (i.e. to implement this as homework). From now on, my professors require me to use SOMs (i.e. self-organizing maps, a type of neural networks), instead of hidden Markov models. A couple of you guys asked whether the efficiency and speed can be improved using HMMs. Again, the answer is yes, just that I don't have time to work on the HMM implementation anymore. Just wanted to let you know that from now on, I'll focus exclusively on working with the Neo, rather than the Wii to test the gestures; and make them smooth and natural. Nokia is using SOMs for gesture recognition in mobile phones, so we should be on the technology wave as I can tell (still, I'm just one guy). What I'll focus on in the 0.2 release: * use some code from the rotate application that is flying around. * keep the current Dbus system for interaction. * 10% of CPU (it's now using 20%), and yes it's doable. * no GUI, but change the text console UI to be something like 'top', and not just printf hundreds of xyz data. * reintegrate with matlab-compatible diagrams. * will still be in C99 and under LGPL. * math formulas that are used in code will have a link to http://wiki.accelsense.org/wiki/page and the formula will be written in LaTex. * some of you gave me advices on how to improve the organization of the project, will also do that. * some dependencies aren't checked, there are too many you say, will be removed. * integration with the freesmartphone.org Dbus FSO communication system (I've seen that it grew since I last checked it). * implementation of self-organizing maps. Bottom line: I'll be trying turn it in a mature project ;) You can do interesting things with SOMs, like Nokia was doing: detecting when the user climbs down, up or walks, just using an accelerometer. Thanks, Paul ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: wpa_supplicant -u ?
To answer the other part of the question, I think this is started by connman which is used by the settings GUI to control the network interfaces. Connman aims to be a lightweight version of NetworkManager but is currently rather incomplete. Thanks. Is there some way to tell connman to use my wpa_supplicant.conf file (especially, so it automatically connects to my preferred networks without asking any question)? Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Editing text files
What I meant was that after you install illume-config-illume and set up the new keyboards [1], you should back up your 89qtopia file from /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ I lost you already: my initial Om2008.9 install already included illume-config-illume. To install the Raster keyboard, all I had to do was install illume-config, it seems. And I don't think any of it has touched the 89qtopia file. Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New rotate version
Oh, I forgot to update test with the same heuristics as the main app I might do that today RUi On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 01:33:06AM +0530, Vikas Saurabh wrote: The test application is blurting out lots of output, following is a snippet(from the middle of the output) which sort of showed some difference when I tapped the screen. Types: a(2), b(2), c(2) Codes: a(0), b(1), c(2) Value: a(-18), b(-1152), c(-54) vertical straight Types: a(2), b(2), c(0) Codes: a(1), b(2), c(0) Value: a(-1062), b(-72), c(0) left Types: a(2), b(2), c(2) Codes: a(0), b(1), c(2) Value: a(72), b(-990), c(-216) vertical straight Types: a(2), b(2), c(2) Codes: a(0), b(1), c(2) Value: a(108), b(-990), c(-234) vertical straight Do, tell me if I need to get something specific from the output. BTW, for restoration to sane state, I think we would like to maintain the brightness value when we switched it off and then restore to this value if the program was ended (normal exit, I understand kernel can force kill without giving the process any chance to anything). --Vikas On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 1:06 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi, Thank you very much for your input. Can you try to run a bit of the 'test' I include? I'm starting to suspect different accelerometers might give different outputs and so the heuristics might not make sense anymore, I hope that's not the case. You can return the brightenss with echo 63 /sys/class/backlight/pcf50633-bl/brightness ... in the meanwhile. As for terminating... only a few signals can be caught, I will try to set them up in order to stop in a sane state (xrandr -o 0, full brightness if it's currently 0, and so on). Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- You are what you see. Today is Pungenday, the 69th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
looking for a mentor
Hello, I'm currently studying computer sciences and Human-computer-interaction; This year we have to do a project (about two month full-time). I intended to propose my own project which is an implementation of a dasher-like keyboard for the freerunner (receive mine a week ago :D ), probably as an enlightenment module (as I think is the current keyboard of illume). And I recently learn that I need to have a mentor from a society or organisation. I think required work from the mentor is similar to mentor for the google summer of code. So I'm asking if someone from openmoko is intersted to mentor me. Feel free to ask me any questions, this afternoon I'll be able to join the #openmoko chan. thx to every one, Mathieu. -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Weekly Engineering News 41/2008: back to the basics
I couldn't be happier!!! OM is listening indeed. :D I know a few people will probably be disappointed because the eye-candy won't get much attention for the next few months, but I know that as soon as everybody start reaping the benefits of the Neo as a lean-and-mean-robust-machine then our love for the OM project and the faith on OM products will grow exponentially, not only inside the community, but also outside. We will finally be able to show the public what this project is about, without suffering inappropriate comments such as what, you can't pick up a call on your new phone??... ;) People often fail to see the beauty when in presence of a small spec of dirt. The day I see my Neo booting in 5 seconds or less with a rock-solid audio and networking stack (including wifi) and no standby/resume problems... Woohooo, I'll fly from Portugal to Taipei myself and pay a round of beers to the OM people!!! :D :D Citando Risto H. Kurppa [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi! Just want to make sure everyone knows that the weekly engineering news has been released again, see http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1336450|a1336450 I want to highlight this: We decided to focus our engineering on just the basics, even less eye candy: Robust kernel, fast boot time, basic telephony with great audio quality, powerful configuration from the command line, hardware quality. That's it. We will stop working on our Installer, Locations, Diversity and Settings applications. We will get back to all this when the rest is rock solid, but now is not the time. Feel free to pickup any of these projects in the meantime I suppose this is generally a good thing to let the community do what it can do (as long as community has the tools and so on to do it) and Openmoko focus on the core stuff. Comments? r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Battery crazy?
And still you can't assume consumption will be constant on a sub-second time scale... It would be more user friendly to report a remaining time based on an average consumption. Any time estimation should actually be done in userland anyway. Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] using qtmail on command line
hi matthias, have you considered using the dbus interface of FSO for this purpose? cheers max Matthias Apitz schrieb: Hello, I figured out that 'qtmail' is the application for sending SMS (and other messages); is there a way to SSH to the FR and send a SMS from the command line, for example like: $ ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# qtmail +491704527211 Hello World or even: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# qtmail +491704527211 file That would be nice, I think matthias -- exactt technology Dipl. Inf. (FH) Max Giesbert Schießstättstr. 16 T: +49 17 75 07 53 44 D-80339 München F: +49 89 1 22 21 97 02 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Weekly Engineering News 41/2008: back to the basics
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 02:01:01PM +0100, Vasco Névoa wrote: The day I see my Neo booting in 5 seconds or less with a rock-solid audio and networking stack (including wifi) and no standby/resume problems... Woohooo, I'll fly from Portugal to Taipei myself and pay a round of beers to the OM people!!! :D :D I'll join you! That way even more rounds of beer happen ;) Rui -- Wibble. Today is Pungenday, the 69th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Weekly Engineering News 41/2008: back to the basics
hmm, finally? ;) Ok, seriously - it's great news, I hope we will see (even the smallest) results of this decision as soon as possible ;) Thanks! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why kdrive ?
Hey, as far as I know there's a special modified version of kdrive (called xglamo) to accelerate the glamo-chip within the device. These (hardcoded) changes are based on kdrive and I think that's the reason why kdrive is used instead of xorg. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Greets mirko Abelenda wrote: Hi I just recieved an interesting mail in the Xorg MailingList this was the contents : Why not just go for the full X11? Memory wise I found no difference in the memory usage between X11 and kdrive on the OMAP. I am told that the full Xorg isn't very happy when built against uClibc. So here's my question, if the memory footprint of kdrive is the same as the full xorg, why choose kdrive over the full xorg ? There might be interesing features in the full server that aren't there in kdrive. Plus I've read here that the X driver has got duplicate code in the X driver from the framebuffer, so there's no really gain in term of size of the driver either... So here's my question if I am totally wrong or asked a totally stupid question I am sorry, as I don't know all the implications. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: wpa_supplicant -u ?
Stefan Monnier wrote: To answer the other part of the question, I think this is started by connman which is used by the settings GUI to control the network interfaces. Connman aims to be a lightweight version of NetworkManager but is currently rather incomplete. Thanks. Is there some way to tell connman to use my wpa_supplicant.conf file (especially, so it automatically connects to my preferred networks without asking any question)? I don't know, but I suspect not. You might be able to influence the wpa_supplicant it starts though, either using dbus or wpa_cli. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved
Thanks Treviño!
However, qpe complains of binary compatibility:
Coult not load /opt/Qtopia/plugins/phonevendors/libficgta01vendor.so
errorString() The plugin
'/opt/Qtopia/plugins/phonevendors/libficgta01vendor.so' uses
incompatible Qt library. Expected build key arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi
What can I do to make QPE take the new library?
Citando Matthias Apitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
El día Wednesday, October 15, 2008 a las 08:18:40AM +0200, Marco
Trevisan (Treviño) escribió:
Here you are [1]. It includes also the mwester fix for re-registering
network and my workaround for GSM firmware crash. I hope it won't have
any incompatibility with your installed Qtopia...
[1]
http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/libficgta01vendor-echo-cancellation.so.tar.gz
Thanks for this. I've installed it this way:
# cd /opt/Qtopia/plugins/phonevendors/
# mv libficgta01vendor.so libficgta01vendor.so.orig
# mv ~/libficgta01vendor.so .
# /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart
interestingly the restart did not asked again for the PIN of the SIM (a
full re-boot does);
during outgoing call one now hears some noise like you have sometimes
when radio wafes of a GSM is affecting a normal phone call;
when I change in gsmhandset.state the section 'control.4' to values
control.4 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 2
comment.range '0 - 127'
iface MIXER
name 'Speaker Playback Volume'
value.0 127
value.1 127
}
the outgoing RING tone nearly killed my ear; with 111 for value.[01] it is
fine, but with the above described noise; what is your
gsmhandset.state file for
this? thx again
matthias
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Re: [Qt-Extended] Messenger bugs?
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Matthew Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, I'm using the new qt-extended (4.4 I think). I'm getting strange problems, especially with the messenger. It always says my SMS is full, and when receiving a new text it displays it between 5-15ish times. Also, scrolling doesn't stop at the top of units, it continues into blank area, and then when I let my finger up, it jumps to the top-most unit (if I scrolled too far). Is anyone else receiving these errors? Common problem, oft reported. There are no updates yet, so we will have to see if its solved when they are released. Also, I can't seem to get a WEP access point on WIFI. More information needed about nature of problem and circumstances. I can connect to my WPA network easily. You can try putting ethernet offline when you attempt the wifi connection and see. It resolves some default route issues that might otherwise crop up. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] using qtmail on command line
El día Wednesday, October 15, 2008 a las 02:55:30PM +0200, Max Giesbert escribió: hi matthias, have you considered using the dbus interface of FSO for this purpose? cheers Hello Max, Do you have a bit more information about that? I went to the Wiki page about D-Bus: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/D-Bus but this is outdated or incomplete (again); I've played around with this: # dbus-send --print-reply --dest=org.openmoko.Dialer /org/openmoko/Dialer org.openmoko.Dialer.Dial string:08961308351 Failed to open connection to session message bus: dbus-launch failed to autolaunch D-Bus session: Autolaunch requested, but X11 support not compiled in. Cannot continue. # export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-GJbsqe78BO,guid=c08c2c056c7ef84e3fc4a09048f59782 (the DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS I've got by just doing 'cat /proc/*/environ | fgrep DBUS') # dbus-send --print-reply --dest=org.openmoko.Dialer /org/openmoko/Dialer org.openmoko.Dialer.Dial string:08961308351 Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.openmoko.Dialer was not provided by any .service files So, now I'm lost :-( Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMooCow 0.1
It doesn't work for me. If I tap the launcher icon the «loading...» screen appears, disappears and then nothing happens. If I start it over ssh, there is no output and no action on the neo either: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# export DISPLAY=:0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# openmoocow # (nothing happens - even after a few minutes. So, I press Ctrl + C) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# I'm using FDOM (Fat_and_Dirty_OM.200809_20080927.rootfs.jffs2http://openmoko.truebox.co.uk/mirror/compartida.net/Fat_and_Dirty_OM.200809_20080927.rootfs.jffs2) with latest Kernel-Image (Om2008.9.uImage.bin) from http://files.tdobson.net/openmoko/freerunner/fdom/ Anyone having the same problems? On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 17:38, Xavier Bestel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I understand, it should mimick that toy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GQ126DUsyQNR=1 Xav On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 17:19 +0200, Thomas Bertani wrote: sorry I can't understand what this software is. is there a video or image aviable? 2008/10/15 Joseph Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I just loaded this onto a colleagues phone - he said he wanted a cat and suggested the name OpenMeowKo :) 2008/10/14 Thomas White [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm pleased to be able to announce version 0.1 of my advanced accelerometer and audio framework testing system, OpenMooCow. Available from http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~taw27/openmoko/openmoocow/http://www.srcf.ucam.org/%7Etaw27/openmoko/openmoocow/ When installed and run, OpenMooCow displays an artistic rendition of a fine specimen of Friesian dairy cattle. Invert the device and return it to an upright orientation to experience the pinnacle of audio rendering kwality. The sound effect can be altered by putting a suitable WAV file in /usr/share/openmoocow/moo.wav. A credit is due to Chris Hendricks who is the author of the original sound file (obtained from www.flashkit.com). Comments/abuse to this address. Tom -- Thomas White Department of Materials Science and Metallurgy Electron Microscopy Group (PhD Student) University of Cambridge / Downing College ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi I just recieved an interesting mail in the Xorg MailingList this was the contents : Why not just go for the full X11? Memory wise I found no difference in the memory usage between X11 and kdrive on the OMAP. I am told that the full Xorg isn't very happy when built against uClibc. So here's my question, if the memory footprint of kdrive is the same as the full xorg, why choose kdrive over the full xorg ? There might be interesing features in the full server that aren't there in kdrive. Plus I've read here that the X driver has got duplicate code in the X driver from the framebuffer, so there's no really gain in term of size of the driver either... So here's my question if I am totally wrong or asked a totally stupid question I am sorry, as I don't know all the implications. Ok, I may have mangled the history a little here, but this is the basics I hope. When we first started on this kdrive/tinyX was the playground for new features within the xorg/xf86 family. xorg didn't support touchscreens, or a configless running. The lack of these features was a killer because making a user construct an xorg.conf on device was a pain. kdrive also had the RENDER extension so people could play with shinies. Xglamo was then created in the kdrive family. Now OM is going to invest some time in investigating if Xorg or Kdrive is the best path forward in the future. Xorg has acheived some level of configless running. Has touchscreen drivers. And the shinies extensions. It is being used on other embedded boards built from OE as well. Graeme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMooCow 0.1
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:15:13 +1000 Denis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like fun, what distros will this run on ? more specifically can this run on qtextended ? I developed it on Om2008.8-testing, but it should run on anything with an X server and GTK. I don't think QtExtended provides this unfortunately :(. A port should be pretty easy, but it'd be an almost completely new program because all there is to it is a window with an image (GTK), a timer callback (glib), a few file handling calls (stdio) and a hook into SDL to play the sound. When I tested it on FSO a couple of weeks ago I found some interesting problems with the accelerometer data - the range seemed different so it wasn't possible to trigger the sound. I know about the range setting of the accelerometers, but I didn't think that changed the units of the readings, only the maximum range (and hence resolution). Glad everyone enjoys it :) Tom -- Thomas White Department of Materials Science and Metallurgy Electron Microscopy Group (PhD Student) University of Cambridge / Downing College ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMooCow 0.1
I just loaded this onto a colleagues phone - he said he wanted a cat and suggested the name OpenMeowKo :) 2008/10/14 Thomas White [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm pleased to be able to announce version 0.1 of my advanced accelerometer and audio framework testing system, OpenMooCow. Available from http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~taw27/openmoko/openmoocow/ When installed and run, OpenMooCow displays an artistic rendition of a fine specimen of Friesian dairy cattle. Invert the device and return it to an upright orientation to experience the pinnacle of audio rendering kwality. The sound effect can be altered by putting a suitable WAV file in /usr/share/openmoocow/moo.wav. A credit is due to Chris Hendricks who is the author of the original sound file (obtained from www.flashkit.com). Comments/abuse to this address. Tom -- Thomas White Department of Materials Science and Metallurgy Electron Microscopy Group (PhD Student) University of Cambridge / Downing College ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMooCow 0.1
Le 14167ième jour après Epoch, Thomas White écrivait: I'm pleased to be able to announce version 0.1 of my advanced accelerometer and audio framework testing system, OpenMooCow. Available from http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~taw27/openmoko/openmoocow/ Quote from my wife: Cool ! Great silly app. on an object you can't use reliably as a phone ! She's angry against the echo issue ;) Small question: I've quickly looked on Makefiles, but don't see anything to build ipk. Did you build it by hand ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Weekly Engineering News 41/2008: back to the basics
You, me, and Schindler makes 3. I guess by the time this actually happens, it'll be a large party!! :) Citando Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 02:01:01PM +0100, Vasco Névoa wrote: The day I see my Neo booting in 5 seconds or less with a rock-solid audio and networking stack (including wifi) and no standby/resume problems... Woohooo, I'll fly from Portugal to Taipei myself and pay a round of beers to the OM people!!! :D :D I'll join you! That way even more rounds of beer happen ;) Rui -- Wibble. Today is Pungenday, the 69th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMooCow 0.1
On Wednesday 15 October 2008 19:26:56 Tobias Kündig wrote: It doesn't work for me. If I tap the launcher icon the «loading...» screen appears, disappears and then nothing happens. I had this issue as well. Check wether your accelerometers work with: hexdump /dev/input/event2 If you don't get any output restart your neo and try again. Btw. is there any progress on the stability of the accelerometers? Mine still stop working after some little time in use and sometime even if they are not used. /Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Who is Openmoko?
The web site www.openmoko.com didn't help me figure out who is Openmoko. I'm mostly interested to find out how it is financed (I doubt the sales of FreeRunners cover the development costs), actually. Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
VARTA Digital USB Charger
Hello list. I've just read an article about new VARTA Digital USB Charger http://www.en.varta-consumer.com/content.php?path=/1204126618.htmldomain=www.en.varta-consumer.com so I'm sharing it with you. For our purposes it's really great that it can charge our precious Neo from inserted AA or AAA accumulators, power point or car socket :-). -- Ing. Radek Bartoň Faculty of Information Technology Department of Computer Graphics and Multimedia Brno University of Technology E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://blackhex.no-ip.org Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Who is Openmoko?
Have a look at http://www.fic.tw. Am Mittwoch, den 15.10.2008, 13:55 -0400 schrieb Stefan Monnier: The web site www.openmoko.com didn't help me figure out who is Openmoko. I'm mostly interested to find out how it is financed (I doubt the sales of FreeRunners cover the development costs), actually. Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- mfg/br, christian weßel Flurstraße 14 29640 Schneverdingen Germany E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telefon: +49 5193 97 14 95 Mobile: +49 171 357 59 57 http://wesselch.homelinux.org signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Who is Openmoko?
Better add a .com: http://www.fic.com.tw Sorry! Am Mittwoch, den 15.10.2008, 20:24 +0200 schrieb Christian Weßel: Have a look at http://www.fic.tw. Am Mittwoch, den 15.10.2008, 13:55 -0400 schrieb Stefan Monnier: The web site www.openmoko.com didn't help me figure out who is Openmoko. I'm mostly interested to find out how it is financed (I doubt the sales of FreeRunners cover the development costs), actually. Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- mfg/br, christian weßel Flurstraße 14 29640 Schneverdingen Germany E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telefon: +49 5193 97 14 95 Mobile: +49 171 357 59 57 http://wesselch.homelinux.org signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why kdrive ?
Ok, I messed this email up :-) On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 11:27 +0100, Graeme Gregory wrote: Hi I just recieved an interesting mail in the Xorg MailingList this was the contents : Why not just go for the full X11? Memory wise I found no difference in the memory usage between X11 and kdrive on the OMAP. I am told that the full Xorg isn't very happy when built against uClibc. So here's my question, if the memory footprint of kdrive is the same as the full xorg, why choose kdrive over the full xorg ? There might be interesing features in the full server that aren't there in kdrive. Plus I've read here that the X driver has got duplicate code in the X driver from the framebuffer, so there's no really gain in term of size of the driver either... So here's my question if I am totally wrong or asked a totally stupid question I am sorry, as I don't know all the implications. Ok, I may have mangled the history a little here, but this is the basics I hope. When we first started on this kdrive/tinyX was the playground for new features within the xorg/xf86 family. xorg didn't support touchscreens, or a configless running. The lack of these features was a killer because making a user construct an xorg.conf on device was a pain. kdrive also had the RENDER extension so people could play with shinies. Xglamo was then created in the kdrive family. Now OM is going to invest some time in investigating if Xorg or Kdrive is the best path forward in the future. Xorg has acheived some level of configless running. Has touchscreen drivers. And the shinies extensions. It is being used on other embedded boards built from OE as well. Graeme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Weekly Engineering News 41/2008: back to the basics
Hi! Just want to make sure everyone knows that the weekly engineering news has been released again, see http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1336450|a1336450 I want to highlight this: We decided to focus our engineering on just the basics, even less eye candy: Robust kernel, fast boot time, basic telephony with great audio quality, powerful configuration from the command line, hardware quality. That's it. We will stop working on our Installer, Locations, Diversity and Settings applications. We will get back to all this when the rest is rock solid, but now is not the time. Feel free to pickup any of these projects in the meantime I suppose this is generally a good thing to let the community do what it can do (as long as community has the tools and so on to do it) and Openmoko focus on the core stuff. Comments? r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMooCow 0.1
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 07:39:22PM +0200, Michael Zanetti wrote: On Wednesday 15 October 2008 19:26:56 Tobias Kündig wrote: It doesn't work for me. If I tap the launcher icon the «loading...» screen appears, disappears and then nothing happens. I had this issue as well. Check wether your accelerometers work with: hexdump /dev/input/event2 If you don't get any output restart your neo and try again. Btw. is there any progress on the stability of the accelerometers? Mine still stop working after some little time in use and sometime even if they are not used. I've noticed that with my newrotate as well. http://blog.1407.org/tag/rotate/ Rui -- Hail Eris! Today is Pungenday, the 69th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New rotate version
What release do you use? How long since your last reboot? Have you been using other applications that use accelerometers? I'm using Om2008.9 and I'm noticing instability in the accelerometers, so maybe some of your problems are derived from it. Rui On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 12:48:24AM +0530, Vikas Saurabh wrote: This seems pretty stable than the previous one. The brightness effect is nice, but the event, apparently, is hitting even if the phone is moved a little (i was trying to type a message). The brightness thing started to feel too much pain, so I killed the rotate instance (from a separated ssh session). Unfortunately, the program had thought that I am rotating and hence had brightness set to 0 when I killed it. So, I was left with a switched off screen :). So, 2 cents from my side (1) The brightness effect (and rotation) should be applied only we are switching orientation (I am not too sure if accels would give that data directlybut keeping a state can be a workaround...it would give some false positives and negative, but would have a better output) (2) We might like to put a close program handler which would try to reset the brightness to the last read brightness value (if the rotation was in progress while the program was closed) --Vikas On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 12:10 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 06:15:58PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 10:26:48PM +0200, Oscar Casamitjana wrote: screenfp = fopen (/sys/class/backlight/pcf50633-bl/brightness,w); Excellent idea, I'll implement it in my newRotate and make a new release. BTW, I still can't commit... https://admin-trac.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1563 OK, new newrotate version, taking usage of brightness to use less energy and a nicer rotation. http://blog.1407.org/2008/10/14/openmoko-newrotate-checks-brightness/ Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Or is it? Today is Pungenday, the 69th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved
On Wednesday 15 October 2008 08:18:40 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Here you are [1]. It includes also the mwester fix for re-registering network and my workaround for GSM firmware crash. I hope it won't have any incompatibility with your installed Qtopia... [1] http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/libficgta01vendor-echo-cance llation.so.tar.gz Thanks for the lib. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to fix the echo issue here... Also the buzzing noise is still very loud... Any suggestions? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accelsense.org (accelerometer-based gestures)
As a matter of fact, I did think about making it *plugable* and you're right. This is the way it should be done because some of the people just wanted the screen rotation, and not the gestures. And I'm also thinking at tapping the Neo. Maybe it can sense whether you've tapped the bottom part, or the top part: giving two extra buttons. So it will be plugable :) On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Vasco Névoa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I forgot to mention: 7 - device rotation (for screen orientation and OpenMooCow) :) Citando Vasco Névoa [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Paul. Your tenacity is indeed an example. Congratulations on the fusion of your academic and hacking lives! :) I don't want to burden you even more, but I'd like to remind you of a couple of details that may turn out to be important in the long run. One thing I would like to see come true is the implementation of an accelerometer framework that is flexible enough to accommodate all kinds of usage, not just gestures, and you are basically sitting on it (horay!!!). :) Examples: 1 - human gestures; 2 - seismic vibrations (distributed earth quake detection), see [1]; 3 - travel dead reckoning, whether of humans, human-powered vehicles, or motorized vehicles; 4 - road comfort level and trail quality level assessment (Z-axis vibration for geo map tagging); 5 - morse tapping (for awkward emergencies, you never know...); 6 - anything else you may think of in the future... My point is, please at least _try_ to include in your design some kind of easily extensible framework, possibly allowing dynamic plugins or at least compile-in modules, and package your specific gestures work as the first modules. And obviously, the ability to support multiple kinds of listener clients at the same time. I know it is a lot to ask, but I think it is very well worth it. The future community will thank you very much! :) Happy hacking!!! :D [1] http://n2.nabble.com/Idea-for-Openmoko-application%3A-seismic-sensor-network-tp1106366p1106366.html Vasco. Citando Paul V. Borza [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi everyone, A couple of people asked me whether I will or won't continue my project on accelerometer-based gestures. My answer was always yes, and to make that clear, I've bought accelsense.com, and accelsense.org. The code has moved from http://code.google.com/p/accelges/ into a GIT repository located at http://repo.accelsense.org. I'm now in the first year of masters, and I've managed to get two of my courses into the accelerometer-based gestures (i.e. to implement this as homework). From now on, my professors require me to use SOMs (i.e. self-organizing maps, a type of neural networks), instead of hidden Markov models. A couple of you guys asked whether the efficiency and speed can be improved using HMMs. Again, the answer is yes, just that I don't have time to work on the HMM implementation anymore. Just wanted to let you know that from now on, I'll focus exclusively on working with the Neo, rather than the Wii to test the gestures; and make them smooth and natural. Nokia is using SOMs for gesture recognition in mobile phones, so we should be on the technology wave as I can tell (still, I'm just one guy). What I'll focus on in the 0.2 release: * use some code from the rotate application that is flying around. * keep the current Dbus system for interaction. * 10% of CPU (it's now using 20%), and yes it's doable. * no GUI, but change the text console UI to be something like 'top', and not just printf hundreds of xyz data. * reintegrate with matlab-compatible diagrams. * will still be in C99 and under LGPL. * math formulas that are used in code will have a link to http://wiki.accelsense.org/wiki/page and the formula will be written in LaTex. * some of you gave me advices on how to improve the organization of the project, will also do that. * some dependencies aren't checked, there are too many you say, will be removed. * integration with the freesmartphone.org Dbus FSO communication system (I've seen that it grew since I last checked it). * implementation of self-organizing maps. Bottom line: I'll be trying turn it in a mature project ;) You can do interesting things with SOMs, like Nokia was doing: detecting when the user climbs down, up or walks, just using an accelerometer. Thanks, Paul ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Paul V. Borza ___ Openmoko community mailing list
Re: [Om2008.9] using qtmail on command line
There was something posted a few weeks back on how to do this. I just searched my (incomplete) archive and cant find it - but it can be done! It was one of the OM guys I think ... Sorry, not much help other than confirmation it can be done :) BillK On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 14:33 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello, I figured out that 'qtmail' is the application for sending SMS (and other messages); is there a way to SSH to the FR and send a SMS from the command line, for example like: $ ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# qtmail +491704527211 Hello World or even: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# qtmail +491704527211 file That would be nice, I think matthias -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accelsense.org (accelerometer-based gestures)
Right now there are a couple of loose dependencies, so that will have to be removed in the 0.2 which will have a different architecture. But other than that, I don't plan to exclude the Debian distro from this project. Thanks, Paul On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Peter Neubauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Paul, great effort and a good example of community driven invention! Will the project be available to the debian distro too or in other words, are there hard dependencies on the 2008.x distros? Cheers /peter GTalk:neubauer.peter Skypepeter.neubauer ICQ18762544 Phone +46704 106975 LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/neubauer Twitter http://twitter.com/peterneubauer http://www.neo4j.org - New Energy for Data - the Graph Database. http://www.ops4j.org - New Energy for OSS Communities - Open Participation Software. http://www.qi4j.org- New Energy for Java - Domain Driven Development. On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Paul V. Borza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, A couple of people asked me whether I will or won't continue my project on accelerometer-based gestures. My answer was always yes, and to make that clear, I've bought accelsense.com, and accelsense.org. The code has moved from http://code.google.com/p/accelges/ into a GIT repository located at http://repo.accelsense.org. I'm now in the first year of masters, and I've managed to get two of my courses into the accelerometer-based gestures (i.e. to implement this as homework). From now on, my professors require me to use SOMs (i.e. self-organizing maps, a type of neural networks), instead of hidden Markov models. A couple of you guys asked whether the efficiency and speed can be improved using HMMs. Again, the answer is yes, just that I don't have time to work on the HMM implementation anymore. Just wanted to let you know that from now on, I'll focus exclusively on working with the Neo, rather than the Wii to test the gestures; and make them smooth and natural. Nokia is using SOMs for gesture recognition in mobile phones, so we should be on the technology wave as I can tell (still, I'm just one guy). What I'll focus on in the 0.2 release: * use some code from the rotate application that is flying around. * keep the current Dbus system for interaction. * 10% of CPU (it's now using 20%), and yes it's doable. * no GUI, but change the text console UI to be something like 'top', and not just printf hundreds of xyz data. * reintegrate with matlab-compatible diagrams. * will still be in C99 and under LGPL. * math formulas that are used in code will have a link to http://wiki.accelsense.org/wiki/page and the formula will be written in LaTex. * some of you gave me advices on how to improve the organization of the project, will also do that. * some dependencies aren't checked, there are too many you say, will be removed. * integration with the freesmartphone.org Dbus FSO communication system (I've seen that it grew since I last checked it). * implementation of self-organizing maps. Bottom line: I'll be trying turn it in a mature project ;) You can do interesting things with SOMs, like Nokia was doing: detecting when the user climbs down, up or walks, just using an accelerometer. Thanks, Paul ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Paul V. Borza ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved
Vasco Névoa wrote: Thanks Treviño! However, qpe complains of binary compatibility: Coult not load /opt/Qtopia/plugins/phonevendors/libficgta01vendor.so errorString() The plugin '/opt/Qtopia/plugins/phonevendors/libficgta01vendor.so' uses incompatible Qt library. Expected build key arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi What can I do to make QPE take the new library? Mhmmh... I should have compiled qtopia using the -buildkey option but I didn't since I thought that it was changing each time I was building it... Well, I figure that the only way to avoid this is recompiling qtopia :|. -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] using qtmail on command line
Matthias Apitz wrote: I figured out that 'qtmail' is the application for sending SMS (and other messages); is there a way to SSH to the FR and send a SMS from the command line, for example like: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# qtmail +491704527211 Hello World I don't really know if there's a way to do it, btw an Italian user found a workaround for this. The article [1] is written in Italian but the code (in python) should be easy to understand. If I'm not remembering wrong, using D-bus, is possible to retrieve only SMSs and calls (not to send). [1] http://gecco.wordpress.com/2008/10/13/openmoko-spedire-sms-da-terminale/ -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved
Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Wednesday, October 15, 2008 a las 08:18:40AM +0200, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) escribió: Here you are [1]. It includes also the mwester fix for re-registering network and my workaround for GSM firmware crash. I hope it won't have any incompatibility with your installed Qtopia... [1] http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/libficgta01vendor-echo-cancellation.so.tar.gz Thanks for this. the outgoing RING tone nearly killed my ear; with 111 for value.[01] it is fine, but with the above described noise; what is your gsmhandset.state file for this? thx again I'm pratically using the standard gsmhandset.state... I've to say that in my experience in noisy places the main speaker volume (for ringing) isn't so loud... -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Rasterman Image...
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: In the enlightenment archives there's a new Rasterman image: New updates from Rasterman (ehy, why don't you add RSS feeds to your site?! :P): http://www.rasterman.com/. To underline a new image [1] and some scripts to get the same by compiling [2]. In his files folder there's also a nice mockup for the GTA03 hw [3]! [1] http://download.enlightenment.org/misc/Illume/Freerunner/2008-10-12/ [2] http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/TMP/oe [3] http://www.rasterman.com/files/gta03-idea-1.png -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Rasterman Image...
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 09:12:44PM +0200, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: In the enlightenment archives there's a new Rasterman image: New updates from Rasterman (ehy, why don't you add RSS feeds to your site?! :P): http://www.rasterman.com/. To underline a new image [1] and some scripts to get the same by compiling [2]. In his files folder there's also a nice mockup for the GTA03 hw [3]! [1] http://download.enlightenment.org/misc/Illume/Freerunner/2008-10-12/ [2] http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/TMP/oe [3] http://www.rasterman.com/files/gta03-idea-1.png Have you tried it already? Does it work? (ie, does it make/receive calls? can you hear and be listented to?) Rui -- Frink! Today is Pungenday, the 69th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Rasterman Image...
El mié, 15-10-2008 a las 20:31 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra escribió: On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 09:12:44PM +0200, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: In the enlightenment archives there's a new Rasterman image: New updates from Rasterman (ehy, why don't you add RSS feeds to your site?! :P): http://www.rasterman.com/. To underline a new image [1] and some scripts to get the same by compiling [2]. In his files folder there's also a nice mockup for the GTA03 hw [3]! [1] http://download.enlightenment.org/misc/Illume/Freerunner/2008-10-12/ [2] http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/TMP/oe [3] http://www.rasterman.com/files/gta03-idea-1.png Have you tried it already? I have tried, it has an tree apps an alarm, a screenshotter and a terminal. looks very pretty and lovely, I'm still guessin why OM has no agree with raster on what the phone software has to look like Does it work? (ie, does it make/receive calls? can you hear and be listented to?) You have to install somethings to arrive to do this, is more a proof of concept of what a Illume can look like in the Neo than a intention of have a working phone. I dream a day that I can aply this directly with an opkg install to a working official OM distro. BTW, regarding http://www.rasterman.com/files/gta03-idea-1.png I like a lot all the design less one detail, raster let's start again a qvga vs vga flame? :) Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian size and uSD
I bought myself a 4Gb uSD card and decided to have a go at moving the (full) 512Mb partition onto it, using http://inferno.slug.org/cgi-bin/wiki?Drive_Backup_And_Cloning as my reference. I backed up the 512Mb with no problem. The 4Gb card was not recognised, though; dmesg on the desktop produced: [ 2460.876027] usb 5-8: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 10 [ 2461.010393] sd 5:0:0:0: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery [ 2461.010444] sd 5:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to offline device [ 2461.010462] sd 5:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to offline device [ 2461.010471] sd 5:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to offline device [ 2461.010477] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] READ CAPACITY failed [ 2461.010482] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Result: hostbyte=DID_NO_CONNECT driverbyte=DRIVER_OK,SUGGEST_OK [ 2461.010489] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Sense not available. [ 2461.010496] sd 5:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to offline device [ 2461.010502] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off [ 2461.010505] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 00 00 00 00 [ 2461.010508] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through [ 2461.010643] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk [ 2461.010808] sd 5:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0 [ 2461.019731] sd 5:0:0:1: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk [ 2461.020480] sd 5:0:0:1: Attached scsi generic sg4 type 0 [ 2461.035667] sd 5:0:0:2: [sdd] Attached SCSI removable disk [ 2461.036236] sd 5:0:0:2: Attached scsi generic sg5 type 0 [ 2461.045093] sd 5:0:0:3: [sde] Attached SCSI removable disk [ 2461.045602] sd 5:0:0:3: Attached scsi generic sg6 type 0 OK, I thought, I'll install Debian from scratch, but this failed with: ext2fs_mkdir: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while creating root dir Subsequent attempts fail with: dd: writing '/dev/mmcblk0': Input/output error 1+0 records in 0+0 records out What can I try before I give up and send the card back? Regards Jeff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMooCow 0.1
Yes, can confirm that. Newrotate and OpenMooCow don't work with not working accelerometers - of course. After a reboot, the accelerometers worked and so did the MooCow. Really great job, it is really funny! I'll add it to www.opkg.org if you don't mind. Regards, Tobias Am 15.10.2008 20:36, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra schrieb: On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 07:39:22PM +0200, Michael Zanetti wrote: On Wednesday 15 October 2008 19:26:56 Tobias Kündig wrote: It doesn't work for me. If I tap the launcher icon the «loading...» screen appears, disappears and then nothing happens. I had this issue as well. Check wether your accelerometers work with: hexdump /dev/input/event2 If you don't get any output restart your neo and try again. Btw. is there any progress on the stability of the accelerometers? Mine still stop working after some little time in use and sometime even if they are not used. I've noticed that with my newrotate as well. http://blog.1407.org/tag/rotate/ Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
UMA anyone?
Is there any support for UMA on OpenMoko phones? If not, is thre any hope to see it in the future? Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: VARTA Digital USB Charger
Looks similar to the DIYer mintyboost' project: http://www.ladyada.net/make/mintyboost/ Radek Bartoň wrote: Hello list. I've just read an article about new VARTA Digital USB Charger http://www.en.varta-consumer.com/content.php?path=/1204126618.htmldomain=www.en.varta-consumer.com so I'm sharing it with you. For our purposes it's really great that it can charge our precious Neo from inserted AA or AAA accumulators, power point or car socket :-). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Who is Openmoko?
2008/10/15 Christian Weßel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Better add a .com: http://www.fic.com.tw Sorry! Take a look at https://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Who_is_Who I do not know how many of them was already at fic before Openmoko. I would be nice to know better the practical relationship between Openmoko inc. and Fic :) Regards Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Rasterman Image...
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:49:34 +0200 David Samblas [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: El mié, 15-10-2008 a las 20:31 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra escribió: On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 09:12:44PM +0200, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: In the enlightenment archives there's a new Rasterman image: New updates from Rasterman (ehy, why don't you add RSS feeds to your site?! :P): http://www.rasterman.com/. To underline a new image [1] and some scripts to get the same by compiling [2]. In his files folder there's also a nice mockup for the GTA03 hw [3]! [1] http://download.enlightenment.org/misc/Illume/Freerunner/2008-10-12/ [2] http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/TMP/oe [3] http://www.rasterman.com/files/gta03-idea-1.png Have you tried it already? I have tried, it has an tree apps an alarm, a screenshotter and a terminal. looks very pretty and lovely, I'm still guessin why OM has no agree with raster on what the phone software has to look like i just have zero phone software on it. no agreement one way or another here - i don't work for OM, so no need to agree or disagree. i removed all of frameworkd etc. because it was causing major performance problems. it alos means the image got a fair bit smaller. it boots baster too as less hammering the device on startup. as such frameworkd has yet to actually handle an incoming or outgoing call for me on my sim card so i haven't focused on this. right now i have other things to focus on (widget set, ui integration and adaption to different resolutions etc.). zhone and frameworkd just get in my way. Does it work? (ie, does it make/receive calls? can you hear and be listented to?) You have to install somethings to arrive to do this, is more a proof of concept of what a Illume can look like in the Neo than a intention of have a working phone. I dream a day that I can aply this directly with an opkg install to a working official OM distro. BTW, regarding http://www.rasterman.com/files/gta03-idea-1.png I like a lot all the design less one detail, raster let's start again a qvga vs vga flame? :) that's an old design i did. before om had any designs of its own. it's just useless junk right now. Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Rasterman Image...
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 09:49:34PM +0200, David Samblas wrote: El mié, 15-10-2008 a las 20:31 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra escribió: On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 09:12:44PM +0200, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: In the enlightenment archives there's a new Rasterman image: New updates from Rasterman (ehy, why don't you add RSS feeds to your site?! :P): http://www.rasterman.com/. To underline a new image [1] and some scripts to get the same by compiling [2]. In his files folder there's also a nice mockup for the GTA03 hw [3]! [1] http://download.enlightenment.org/misc/Illume/Freerunner/2008-10-12/ [2] http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/TMP/oe [3] http://www.rasterman.com/files/gta03-idea-1.png Have you tried it already? I have tried, it has an tree apps an alarm, a screenshotter and a terminal. looks very pretty and lovely, I'm still guessin why OM has no agree with raster on what the phone software has to look like Does it work? (ie, does it make/receive calls? can you hear and be listented to?) You have to install somethings to arrive to do this, is more a proof of concept of what a Illume can look like in the Neo than a intention of have a working phone. I dream a day that I can aply this directly with an opkg install to a working official OM distro. I know... I don't mind installing stuff to have phone work, just some hints for the bare bones minimum definition of work :) Right now I receive and make calls, but it's totally silent. I tried fiddling with alsamixer, but to no avail :| Tomorrow is a work day, I'll need to reinstall Om2008.9 soon if I can't hear/speak :| Rui -- You are what you see. Today is Pungenday, the 69th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Rasterman Image...
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 11:10:59PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: Tomorrow is a work day, I'll need to reinstall Om2008.9 soon if I can't hear/speak :| Didn't last till tomorrow, I just had a most dreadful White Screen of Death *sigh* Rui -- Or not. Today is Pungenday, the 69th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New rotate version
I am using 2008.8 with regular updates, so I should be pretty updated :) hmmnot sure, but it might be some 10 hours. No other apps were using accels. What is meant by instability? I was seeing continuous output from 'test' program (although with similar values). Is that the instability? --Vikas On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:08 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: What release do you use? How long since your last reboot? Have you been using other applications that use accelerometers? I'm using Om2008.9 and I'm noticing instability in the accelerometers, so maybe some of your problems are derived from it. Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Rasterman Image...
No sound is a FSO problem I believe. It's fixed, but I think the fix is only in sources. We'll have to wait for updated frameworkd and zhone on downloads.freesmartphone.org On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:26 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 11:10:59PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: Tomorrow is a work day, I'll need to reinstall Om2008.9 soon if I can't hear/speak :| Didn't last till tomorrow, I just had a most dreadful White Screen of Death *sigh* Rui -- Or not. Today is Pungenday, the 69th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Rasterman Image...
Nice, thanks. I guess I'll try again later :) On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:45:42AM +0200, Leonti Bielski wrote: No sound is a FSO problem I believe. It's fixed, but I think the fix is only in sources. We'll have to wait for updated frameworkd and zhone on downloads.freesmartphone.org On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:26 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 11:10:59PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: Tomorrow is a work day, I'll need to reinstall Om2008.9 soon if I can't hear/speak :| Didn't last till tomorrow, I just had a most dreadful White Screen of Death *sigh* -- Kallisti! Today is Pungenday, the 69th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMooCow 0.1
Rather than reboot, suspend/resume usually works for me. BillK On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 19:39 +0200, Michael Zanetti wrote: On Wednesday 15 October 2008 19:26:56 Tobias Kündig wrote: It doesn't work for me. If I tap the launcher icon the «loading...» screen appears, disappears and then nothing happens. I had this issue as well. Check wether your accelerometers work with: hexdump /dev/input/event2 If you don't get any output restart your neo and try again. Btw. is there any progress on the stability of the accelerometers? Mine still stop working after some little time in use and sometime even if they are not used. /Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] How to export Vcf Contacts from FR?
Great! Now I know which client to use, let's play!!! :)
I've spent 15 minutes reviving my SQL (which I had forgotten for at
least 5 years), and this is what I have so far:
*
sqlite3 /home/root/Applications/Qtopia/qtopia_db.sqlite 'Select distinct
nickname, title, firstname, middlename, lastname, suffix, profession,
b_webpage, company, office, department, jobtitle, default_email,
phone_number, h_webpage, spouse, gender, birthday, anniversary from
contacts, contactphonenumbers where
contacts.recid=contactphonenumbers.recid;' | sed 's/|/\t/g'
addressbook.txt
*
This creates an addressbook tab-delimited-file with all the fields I
thought where important for each contact (some info may be missing,
check the columns and tables).
Each contact that has more than one phone number will appear multiple
times because I haven't yet come up with a clean way to show the join
between the contacts and contactphonenumbers tables, so for now it
just duplicates the whole line, with the only difference being the phone
number.
Anyone versed in SQL will be able to hack this into a full VCF file
generator... or you can just go the Python way (but I prefer to use the
nice tools already in place) :)
Your turn! ;)
Paul wrote:
Hey Vasco,
You mean creating VCF's from the sqlite-data in a backup?
Would be interesting to play with. I could envision a slq-script that
dumps the data into a file and then a bash or python script that puts
things in the proper format. That's not too difficult, if sqlite plays
nice.
I had thought about that too, but I can't find an SQLite client in OM
repos to create the necessary script.
How can we talk to SQLite on OM without going the full C/C++ and
respective libs way? Python maybe?...
I found sqlite3 on my desktop pc, which makes things a lot easier. I
think that is included on anyone's Linux box these days, and on
www.sqlite.com/download there are also precompiled binaries for Mac and
Windows. You need sqlite version 3 for the .sqlite files on the FR.
I've been playing a bit with it: copied a .sqlite file from the
Freerunner to my machine and using sqlite3 I can pull information from
it quite easily:
echo .tables | sqlite3 qtopia_db.sqlite
appointmentcategories contactpresence mimeTypeMapping
appointmentcustom contactspimdependencies
appointmentexceptions content servicehistory
appointmentscontentPropssimcardidmap
callhistory currentsimcard simlabelidmap
callhistorytimezone databaseProperties sqlsources
categories defaultMimeApplication syncServers
categoryringtoneemailaddresses taskcategories
changelog favoriteservicestaskcustom
contactaddressesgoogleidtasks
contactcategories locationLookup versioninfo
contactcustom mapCategoryToContent
contactphonenumbers mimeTypeLookup
echo .dump contactphonenumbers | sqlite3 qtopia_db.sqlite
BEGIN TRANSACTION;
CREATE TABLE contactphonenumbers ( phone_number VARCHAR(100) NOT
NULL, recid INTEGER, phone_type INTEGER, FOREIGN KEY(recid)
REFERENCES contacts(recid) );
INSERT INTO contactphonenumbers VALUES('04x875',83886113,1);
INSERT INTO contactphonenumbers VALUES('07x693',83886209,1);
INSERT INTO contactphonenumbers VALUES('+3167678',83886277,257);
INSERT INTO contactphonenumbers VALUES('049275',83886193,1);
INSERT INTO contactphonenumbers VALUES('118',83886361,1);
INSERT INTO contactphonenumbers VALUES('+316244',83886365,1);
INSERT INTO contactphonenumbers VALUES('+3162233',83886357,1);
CREATE INDEX contactphonenumbersbytype ON contactphonenumbers
(phone_type, phone_number);
CREATE INDEX contactphonenumbersindex ON contactphonenumbers (recid);
CREATE INDEX contactphonenumbersnumbers ON contactphonenumbers
(phone_number, recid);
CREATE INDEX contactphnenumberscontacts ON contactphonenumbers (recid,
phone_number);
COMMIT;
I can imagine a python script on the desktop/laptop that would read all
the dumps, disect all the insert statements, combine the information
based on the recid attribute and after pulling all that together, write
out Vcards.
Note that I am using qtopia. I am not certain if the structure on
OM2008.x is identical. If that is the case, I can imagine a config file
per distribution, mapping attribute-names to the necessary Vcard
entries. (I have a lot of imagination.) You'd then run the python script
with a parameter telling it what config/mapping to use.
I am sure I can write something like that. I am however not sure how
long it would take me, as my order for 36-hour days has still not been
fullfilled. *grin*
What do you (or anyone) think of this?
Paul
Re: [Debian] Auxlaunch
I created a wiki page with screenshot [1]. I also enhanced Auxlaunch. It now also acts as a rudimentary, finger-friendly task (window) switcher. This is an optional feature. Comments welcome, Aliasid [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Auxlaunch On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Davide Scaini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes a wiki is quite necessary... d On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 7:56 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: This is beautiful. Thanks! It is very simple, very flexible, and easy to configure. On top of that, it makes a great example program. If you have time to write up a wiki page that would be great. Otherwise, I'll add it to my list. Michael Al Iasid wrote: Hi, I wanted a simple, very finger-friendly app launcher for my Freerunner running Debian. I also wanted to access it using the Aux button. So, I mixed code from the PyGTK hello world example with code from matchbox-keyboard-toggle and came up with Auxlaunch. A screenshot and download link is at aliasid.googlepages.com/auxlaunch http://aliasid.googlepages.com/auxlaunch if you're interested. At first, it minimizes and waits for the Aux button to be pressed. Then, it pops up full screen and shows 3 large buttons. You use the up and down buttons to change the top button. Press the top button and the selected app starts. You can configure the choices by editing the .auxlaunchrc text file. I added an item for Suspend (apm -s), too. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [om2008.9/FDOM] Charging or Long Power On = Crashing?
Hi On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 22:20 -0700, Boris Wong wrote: I'm working on a theory of prolonged charging leading to the crashing of the Freerunner in FDOM/om2008.9. I'm not saying it's definite, but I have had some experiences of my phone ending up in kernel panic and where the screen would not turn on after overnight charging without suspension. Here is the scenario: I plug in my Freerunner to the wall adaptor, to let it charge overnight. I do not use suspension, but I do have the screen turn off automatically. I sometimes don't unplug/plug it in again to make the charging indicator (red light and the charging symbol on the screen) appear. In the morning (6+ hours later), the phone will be in kernel panic or the device will be on without the screen (calls and things get through, monitor does not come on). The questionable theory: Is there any chance that, since the kernel is not aware that the device is charging (even though the device still charges to full), will create crashes or reverse the loop of the battery indicators? I'm aware that this is a smart battery which can dish out statistics. If the FR does not know that it is charging, but the power is going up, I might think that that may cause problems with the logging and power handling from the kernel. Just a theory, but I really want to get rid of kernel panics and crashes after not shutting down for a long time. Any other theories floating out there that we might want to consider? -Boris I have the same problem, charging my Freerunner from 40-50% remaining battery let it freeze almost reliable. And just like you I (normally) don't use suspend. But sometimes I also have freezes when it runs some time, and sometimes after rebooting it it freezes again within minutes. This mostly happened when it got power over USB (500mA over car adapter, battery was fully charged at that time IIRC), and it was noticeable warm at the back and front. Another freeze was a few weeks ago on a warm sunny day when I was outside with the freerunner in my pocket, and it also got pretty warm. At all times I had GPS turned on (except for the freezes at charge time. So one of my theories is a thermal problem, but a short test was not able to prove that, although the Freerunner froze after reaching 100% (started at about 40%), the day before it froze at 25%, charging was started at 20%. At that time I ran battery.py (available somewhere in the wiki), also I'm running this program mostly when charging, but the freezes seem to be more unlikely when not running it. This brings me to my second theory, something like a race condition in the battery driver or somewhere, since battery.sh polls the bat status quite often. If it should matter, I'm running Om2008 with the latest updates, but my Freerunner with freezes Om2008 since I have it. I can't tell anything about Om2007 because I installed Om2008 right after unpacking and eating my gummi bears ;) Thanks Christoph! :) cu Korbi signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Dear community, I have just completed my first packages for the Openmoko. First things first, here are the instructions, download links, and screenshots: http://people.defora.org/~khorben/200810.html#20081016022955 Besides about the programs themselves, I will welcome suggestions regarding how to better generate the packages, and how to host them somewhere more « official ». Actually, I'd even be happy if someone would volunteer for this task, and push me to commit fixes :) Have fun, -- Pierre Pronchery, Hackable devices RD, Bearstech email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]42 boulevard Sébastopol PGP: AE49 5F7D D56A 4BD6 7B1F 75003 Paris, France 8655 125C 0FE6 5566 EBD8 Web: http://bearstech.com Phone: +49 177 472 7481 Phone: +33 6 71 62 42 74 Fax: +49 304 208 1861 Fax: +33 1 42 72 20 03 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Can somebody smarter than I work out how we do this? http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/wiimote-strapped-on-guitar-for-wild-effects-whammy-bar-gets-tot/ Thanks :-) Nick ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Re: [Om2008.9] How to export Vcf Contacts from FR?
Vasco I've put your contribution up on the wiki. Once step closer to
working out the export. Also in the discussion I've asked for thoughts
on either moving 'exporting' to a new page or rename the current one.
What do you think?
-Nick
Vasco Névoa wrote:
Great! Now I know which client to use, let's play!!! :)
I've spent 15 minutes reviving my SQL (which I had forgotten for at
least 5 years), and this is what I have so far:
*
sqlite3 /home/root/Applications/Qtopia/qtopia_db.sqlite 'Select distinct
nickname, title, firstname, middlename, lastname, suffix, profession,
b_webpage, company, office, department, jobtitle, default_email,
phone_number, h_webpage, spouse, gender, birthday, anniversary from
contacts, contactphonenumbers where
contacts.recid=contactphonenumbers.recid;' | sed 's/|/\t/g'
addressbook.txt
*
This creates an addressbook tab-delimited-file with all the fields I
thought where important for each contact (some info may be missing,
check the columns and tables).
Each contact that has more than one phone number will appear multiple
times because I haven't yet come up with a clean way to show the join
between the contacts and contactphonenumbers tables, so for now it
just duplicates the whole line, with the only difference being the phone
number.
Anyone versed in SQL will be able to hack this into a full VCF file
generator... or you can just go the Python way (but I prefer to use the
nice tools already in place) :)
Your turn! ;)
Paul wrote:
Hey Vasco,
You mean creating VCF's from the sqlite-data in a backup?
Would be interesting to play with. I could envision a slq-script that
dumps the data into a file and then a bash or python script that puts
things in the proper format. That's not too difficult, if sqlite plays
nice.
I had thought about that too, but I can't find an SQLite client in OM
repos to create the necessary script.
How can we talk to SQLite on OM without going the full C/C++ and
respective libs way? Python maybe?...
I found sqlite3 on my desktop pc, which makes things a lot easier. I
think that is included on anyone's Linux box these days, and on
www.sqlite.com/download there are also precompiled binaries for Mac and
Windows. You need sqlite version 3 for the .sqlite files on the FR.
I've been playing a bit with it: copied a .sqlite file from the
Freerunner to my machine and using sqlite3 I can pull information from
it quite easily:
echo .tables | sqlite3 qtopia_db.sqlite
appointmentcategories contactpresence mimeTypeMapping
appointmentcustom contactspimdependencies
appointmentexceptions content servicehistory
appointmentscontentPropssimcardidmap
callhistory currentsimcard simlabelidmap
callhistorytimezone databaseProperties sqlsources
categories defaultMimeApplication syncServers
categoryringtoneemailaddresses taskcategories
changelog favoriteservicestaskcustom
contactaddressesgoogleidtasks
contactcategories locationLookup versioninfo
contactcustom mapCategoryToContent
contactphonenumbers mimeTypeLookup
echo .dump contactphonenumbers | sqlite3 qtopia_db.sqlite
BEGIN TRANSACTION;
CREATE TABLE contactphonenumbers ( phone_number VARCHAR(100) NOT
NULL, recid INTEGER, phone_type INTEGER, FOREIGN KEY(recid)
REFERENCES contacts(recid) );
INSERT INTO contactphonenumbers VALUES('04x875',83886113,1);
INSERT INTO contactphonenumbers VALUES('07x693',83886209,1);
INSERT INTO contactphonenumbers VALUES('+3167678',83886277,257);
INSERT INTO contactphonenumbers VALUES('049275',83886193,1);
INSERT INTO contactphonenumbers VALUES('118',83886361,1);
INSERT INTO contactphonenumbers VALUES('+316244',83886365,1);
INSERT INTO contactphonenumbers VALUES('+3162233',83886357,1);
CREATE INDEX contactphonenumbersbytype ON contactphonenumbers
(phone_type, phone_number);
CREATE INDEX contactphonenumbersindex ON contactphonenumbers (recid);
CREATE INDEX contactphonenumbersnumbers ON contactphonenumbers
(phone_number, recid);
CREATE INDEX contactphnenumberscontacts ON contactphonenumbers (recid,
phone_number);
COMMIT;
I can imagine a python script on the desktop/laptop that would read all
the dumps, disect all the insert statements, combine the information
based on the recid attribute and after pulling all that together, write
out Vcards.
Note that I am using qtopia. I am not certain if the structure on
OM2008.x is identical. If that is the case, I can imagine a config file
per distribution, mapping attribute-names to the necessary Vcard
entries. (I have a lot of imagination.)
Re: [Om2008.9] How to export Vcf Contacts from FR?
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 11:00 PM, nickd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vasco I've put your contribution up on the wiki. Once step closer to working out the export. Also in the discussion I've asked for thoughts on either moving 'exporting' to a new page or rename the current one. What do you think? -Nick Have you guys considered writing a plugin for Conduit [1]? It looks like Conduit supports Evolution Data Server, which is what (I think) Openmoko uses. I'd be pretty happy if I could synchronize my Freerunner with Evolution via Conduit. Maybe some of us should put together a beer of the month club [2] bounty for whoever makes a plugin for conduit. -Charles Pax [1] http://www.conduit-project.org/ [2] http://www.beermonthclub.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
