Re: Auto-reject incoming phone calls
Hi Kamil, Very nice indeed. An idea might be to provide an option to: - don't reply (default) - send SMS - send email - send instant message (regardless the other person is on or offline) Regards, Pander On Sat, October 25, 2008 14:25, member kamituel wrote: > Hi, > I've coded some little script which allows you to reject incoming phone > calls by > putting your phone on the desk with its screen facing the desk. > Additionally, after rejecting the phone call, script sends an SMS with > your apologise > and note that you'll contact the caller later. > > So, use case is like this: > 1. You're on some meeting/lecture/at work etc., your phone is laying on > the desk > somewhere near you with it's screen oriented up. > 2. The phone rings, but you don'w want to/have time to answer it > 3. Insted of clicking the reject button, you can simply place the > phone so it has it's > screen oriented down. > 4. Phone rejects the call and sends sms. > > script works on the FSO and is using Call and SMS DBus interfaces. > > Kamil > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release
Hi all, I am willing to put in effort in testing, bug fixing, developing and impoving OM on FreeRunner. This would be a bit easier if it is clear what exact combination of images is currently the "latest stable" (read usable) in terms of this community. I understand this is not an easy question ;) Only if a certain group of people is using the exact same set, it is possible to succesfully cooperate. I know I am a newbe here but if someone would get me up to speed, that would be much obliged. Thanks, Pander On Sat, October 25, 2008 15:54, Marcel wrote: > Am Saturday 25 October 2008 16:54:52 schrieb Pander: >> On Sat, October 25, 2008 16:26, Marcel wrote: >> > Am Saturday 25 October 2008 16:13:27 schrieb Geoff Ruscoe: >> >> So I'm downloading the new FDOM image, but unfortunately I don't see >> >> what >> >> kernel I should use with it. >> >> >> >> Is there a best kernel to go with it? >> >> I'm using Om2008.8-update with latest FDOM but am also looking at an >> alternative. >> >> >> Thanks >> > >> > I'm using mwester's one. Seems to work well. >> >> Do you mean this one? >> http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html > > Yes. > >> How does this relate to Om2008.8-update? > > I don't know. Simply using it... > >> What is the exact installation procedure you use (think neotool) Do you >> also need to install the minimal modules or other stuff or does that >> come >> with FDOM anyway? > > Since I don't see the kernel output on booting I didn't see if it's > missing > modules on first boot, but I copied the modules also because most kernels > need their own special module set (from my experience). Installation: as > simple as > $ dfu-util -a kernel -R -D uImage.bin > :) > > -Marcel > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Like new FreeRunner for sale
I bought my FR in a group sale. I have two never used headsets, laser stylus, the pouch, and a new extra battery from the Spares Pack. The FR is essentially new and still has the little screen plastic in place. When I pack it neatly back in its handsome box it'll be like new. I've never powered this unit up. I can take paypal or cash if you're in Boulder, Colorado. Make an offer if you're interested. Thanks, Vinc Duran ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
On 2008.10.25.14.44, Ian Stephen wrote: | In order of preference; | | 3) combo : if it's a slide out with big keys ie HTC Touch Pro | 1) touchscreen : not quite as deep set as GTA02 | 2) qwerty & tracker ball : I'd rather not physically reduce screen space Same here. Though continued evolution of the current setup (#1) sounds pretty good. --Brock ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: External wired small USB keyboard
> On power drawing from an USB hub in a keyboard, I have the following > question. Is it possible to connect at the same time: > - USB power charger or network over USB with your desktop/laptop (does > this also charge a little bit the Neo?) > - external USB keyboard > - perhaps one other USB device (low power consumption, almost passive) As explained it's possible. Regarding your last point, since the USB port can provide up to 500mA (as the USB standard stipulates), there's a good deal of power left: My Thinkpad UltraNav travel keyboard (i.e. a keyboard just like the one on a Thinkpad laptop, with integrated trackpoint and touchpad, as well as a 2-port USB-1 hub) uses: % egrep 'MxPwr|Product' /proc/bus/usb/devices S: Product=USB 1.1 2 port downstream low-power hub C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=a0 MxPwr= 40mA S: Product=IBM USB Travel Keyboard with UltraNav C:* #Ifs= 2 Cfg#= 1 Atr=a0 MxPwr= 70mA S: Product=Composite TouchPad / TrackPoint C:* #Ifs= 2 Cfg#= 1 Atr=a0 MxPwr=100mA I.e. it uses 210mA, and would leave 290mA left (for reference my Logitech mouse uses 100mA, and my USB wifi 11g dongle uses 300mA). Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: what about crontab?
On 25 Oct 2008, at 21:01, Giovanni wrote: I installed cron from Angstrom repository: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Users_Repositories#Angstrom_Repository I did an alarm clock by using crontab, which launches mplayer wakeup.mp3 Does this version of cron wake the Freerunner from suspend? Stroller. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
> 1) touchscreen (no qwerty buttons) - freerunner, HTC Orbit, iphone > 2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball - blackberry curve > 3) combination touchscreen plus qwerty - G1 Mostly touchscreen with a slide out keyboard sounds good. Also the touchscreen would be well served by a couple extra buttons. Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Auto-reject incoming phone calls
> I've coded some little script which allows you to reject incoming > phone calls by putting your phone on the desk with its screen facing > the desk. Sounds great, really. I wonder tho: what if your phone is in your backpack and happens to be in a "mostly horizontal, face down" position? Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 16:39:18 + (UTC) JW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: hate to drape a wet cloth over the party - but you do know that these kind of changes are not going into GTA03... because it's too late - 6-9 months ago would have given it a chance (though om have their own plans so you have to first utterly convince om that their ideas already arse total codswallop :) and u'd have to have done it a long time ago). BUT... you're in with a chance for GTA04 i'd bet. > Ok Community, > > vote and tell OM what you want for the next phone > > [also realise this is still a long time away and Freerunner is available to > buy now!] > > 1) touchscreen (no qwerty buttons) - freerunner, HTC Orbit, iphone > 2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball - blackberry curve > 3) combination touchscreen plus qwerty - G1 > > *** > Please don't write endless pages about why - just indicate which one YOU want. > *** > > For myself my vote is > > 1) no, my HTC orbit experience was horrible (yes, i realise there are better) > 2) yes, my preferred user input method - intuitive, fast, flexible > 3) no, i think combo is too much to ask from OM right now > > ciao > JW > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
> 1) no, the FR is the best reason why this sucks really bad 2) No, too limited 3) Yes, when I compare the FR to my 3 yr old Palm treo - the palm wins easily in almost every way -- William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: EFL documentation
On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 01:14 +0200, Marcel wrote: > Moin! > > I've got an idea for a little app on the neo and want to implement the GUI > using the EFLibraries. But I cannot find a thorough tutorial on this > (preferably in python) on the net. There is one about an application launcher > on the E17 wiki but that for example doesn't cover getting some text into the > GUI. > > I'm also planning to take a look at zhone. However this also contains lots of > other code and seems to be more like a quick hack (from what I read about it, > although it works). > > So my question is: do you know some usable tutorial? If this turns out to be > really useful, I could also collect links on a wiki page... > > -Marcel I've been messin' around with edje some. Basic edje stuff seems pretty simple. Here's what I've found: http://homepages.pathfinder.gr/kazanaki/contrib/ http://www.cuddletech.com/edje/docs/html/edje_book.html http://wiki.enlightenment.org/index.php/Main_Page If you discover anything else please pass it along. digger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
a very nicely pimped freerunner theme
Does anybody know where I can find the necessary files to pimp my freerunner like this one: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/a021c845b2f5bc5f98e3b6a78ad925f7.png ? the only one I knew of was http://52grad.de/.stuff/freerunner/ kind regards y ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Auto-reject incoming phone calls
2008/10/26 member kamituel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I've coded some little script which allows you to reject incoming phone calls > by > putting your phone on the desk with its screen facing the desk. > Additionally, after rejecting the phone call, script sends an SMS with > your apologise > and note that you'll contact the caller later. wonderful. how useful, thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: External wired small USB keyboard
2008/10/26 Pander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On power drawing from an USB hub in a keyboard, I have the following > question. Is it possible to connect at the same time: > - USB power charger or network over USB with your desktop/laptop (does > this also charge a little bit the Neo?) > - external USB keyboard > - perhaps one other USB device (low power consumption, almost passive) > > Is this feesable with some sort of HUB combination? yes, you need a powered USB hub, and may need to do some soldering/re-building to get things going: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_host#Providing_power_to_connected_USB_devices_while_in_host_mode for more info ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finger Keyboard
>> I've not tested your keyboard due to some python errors (etk.TextView >> wasn't recognized, and I had not time to workaround/fix it; > > I got the same error: ... >> AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'TextView' Is python-etk installed? I got python-etk - 0.3.0+svnr36540-r0.1 I'am running fso-testing - From the install instructions : # opkg install task-python-efl python-fcntl python-etk python-ecore python-threading # wget http://rabenfrost.net/celtune/misc/python-xlib_0.14-ml0_armv4t.ipk # opkg install python-xlib_0.14-ml0_armv4t.ipk > Has anyone fixed this bug yet? Is it possible that someone could share a > screenshot? I attached 2 screenshots. As said before this is only a prototype - they gui looks bery bad: I tried to improved the gui but stuck with edje... About Terminal-Optimization: You can add any character to the keyboard. Edit fingerkeyboard.py on line 197 ... <><>___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (OM2008.9) Upgrade - update
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 10:52 AM, rakshat hooja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As long as you are just getting .sig download errors there should be no > problems. OPKG seems to have a problem with package signatures I wonder if the time and energy wasted on this recurring issue is greater than the effort to FIX IT. Shouldn't it be a simple addition to the build scripts? Is there some way the community can help here? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: EFL documentation
had exactly the same problem, there are some example-apps in the svn of the python-bindings; browse: https://svn.enlightenment.org/svn/e/trunk/BINDINGS/python/ api: http://staff.get-e.org/~barbieri/python-efl-api/ I'd love to see a wiki-page with better links than mine. On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 1:14 AM, Marcel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Moin! > > I've got an idea for a little app on the neo and want to implement the GUI > using the EFLibraries. But I cannot find a thorough tutorial on this > (preferably in python) on the net. There is one about an application launcher > on the E17 wiki but that for example doesn't cover getting some text into the > GUI. > > I'm also planning to take a look at zhone. However this also contains lots of > other code and seems to be more like a quick hack (from what I read about it, > although it works). > > So my question is: do you know some usable tutorial? If this turns out to be > really useful, I could also collect links on a wiki page... > > -Marcel > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
EFL documentation
Moin! I've got an idea for a little app on the neo and want to implement the GUI using the EFLibraries. But I cannot find a thorough tutorial on this (preferably in python) on the net. There is one about an application launcher on the E17 wiki but that for example doesn't cover getting some text into the GUI. I'm also planning to take a look at zhone. However this also contains lots of other code and seems to be more like a quick hack (from what I read about it, although it works). So my question is: do you know some usable tutorial? If this turns out to be really useful, I could also collect links on a wiki page... -Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 9:39 AM, JW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1) touchscreen (no qwerty buttons) - freerunner, HTC Orbit, iphone > 2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball - blackberry curve > 3) combination touchscreen plus qwerty - G1 Would prefer 3, touchscreen plus KB, but only if it doesn't make the phone bulky. Otherwise touchscreen only is good enough. Should plan on switching to multi-touch rather than resistive as soon as chips to do that become available. It's important to keep the high-res touchscreen. And it would be nice to also have more buttons, e.g. green and red buttons (hangup/esc and answer/dial). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
3) (Please! I'd buy a thumbpad entry anyway) 1) Not 2. JW-2 wrote: > > > Ok Community, > > vote and tell OM what you want for the next phone > > [also realise this is still a long time away and Freerunner is available > to buy > now!] > > 1) touchscreen (no qwerty buttons) - freerunner, HTC Orbit, iphone > 2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball - blackberry curve > 3) combination touchscreen plus qwerty - G1 > > *** > Please don't write endless pages about why - just indicate which one YOU > want. > *** > > For myself my vote is > > 1) no, my HTC orbit experience was horrible (yes, i realise there are > better) > 2) yes, my preferred user input method - intuitive, fast, flexible > 3) no, i think combo is too much to ask from OM right now > > ciao > JW > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/GTA03---buttons-or-touchscreen-tp1376109p1376962.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] openmoko-panel-plugin 0.4
Hi,
Am Donnerstag, den 02.10.2008, 18:32 +0200 schrieb Fox Mulder:
> I previously posted a note that the actual 0.4 package misses quite some
> icons. So to get it to work you just have to put the missing icons back
> to /usr/share/pixmaps/openmoko-panel-plugins.
> You can get the icons from
> http://www.ohli.de/download/openmoko-panel-plugin_0.4.orig.tar.gz
>
> It misses the following icons:
> brightness.png
> usb_drive.png
> usb_host.png
> usb_net.png
> gsm_000.png
> gsm_020.png
> gsm_040.png
> gsm_060.png
> gsm_080.png
> gsm_100.png
Sorry for taking so long to react, but I finally noticed that there
should be more icons that I saw :-)
New version 0.8-1.2 uploaded to the pkg-fso repository.
Sebastian, here is the relevant patch:
--- openmoko-panel-plugin-0.4.orig/setup.py
+++ openmoko-panel-plugin-0.4/setup.py
@@ -21,6 +21,8 @@
from distutils.core import setup
import os
+from glob import glob
+
setup(name='openmoko-panel-plugin',
description='Panel Plugin to display the openmoko FR powerstates',
@@ -29,9 +31,14 @@
version='0.4',
license='GPL_v2',
scripts=['openmoko-panel-plugin'],
-data_files=[('/usr/share/pixmaps/openmoko-panel-plugin',
['pixmaps/battery_000.png', 'pixmaps/battery_000_charging.png',
'pixmaps/battery_010.png', 'pixmaps/battery_010_charging.png',
'pixmaps/battery_020.png', 'pixmaps/battery_020_charging.png',
'pixmaps/battery_030.png', 'pixmaps/battery_030_charging.png',
'pixmaps/battery_040.png', 'pixmaps/battery_040_charging.png',
'pixmaps/battery_050.png', 'pixmaps/battery_050_charging.png',
'pixmaps/battery_060.png', 'pixmaps/battery_060_charging.png',
'pixmaps/battery_070.png', 'pixmaps/battery_070_charging.png',
'pixmaps/battery_080.png', 'pixmaps/battery_080_charging.png',
'pixmaps/battery_090.png', 'pixmaps/battery_090_charging.png',
'pixmaps/battery_100.png', 'pixmaps/battery_100_charging.png',
'pixmaps/bt_0.png', 'pixmaps/bt_1.png', 'pixmaps/gps_0.png',
'pixmaps/gps_1.png', 'pixmaps/gsm_0.png', 'pixmaps/gsm_1.png',
'pixmaps/matchbox-keyboard_0.png', 'pixmaps/matchbox-keyboard_1.png',
'pixmaps/wifi_0.png', 'pixmaps/wifi_1.png',]),
-('/usr/share/applications',
['openmoko-panel-plugin.desktop']),
-],
+data_files=[
+('/usr/share/pixmaps/openmoko-panel-plugin',
+glob('pixmaps/*.png')
+),
+('/usr/share/applications',
+['openmoko-panel-plugin.desktop']
+),
+],
)
and this got rid or warnings in some occations (although there are more
gsmstate-related bugs present)
--- openmoko-panel-plugin-0.4.orig/openmoko-panel-plugin
+++ openmoko-panel-plugin-0.4/openmoko-panel-plugin
@@ -650,7 +650,7 @@
try:
self.dbusgsmstate = Interface(self.resources_proxy["GSMVALS"],
"org.freesmartphone.GSM.Network").GetStatus()
except:
-self.dbusgsmstate = None
+self.dbusgsmstate = {}
try:
self.brightness =
dbus_object.device_display_iface.GetBrightness();
Greetings,
Joachim
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Re: FDOM and Ticket #1024 - gsm modem oscillating between registrated / not-registrated
> I used AT%SLEEP=2 with FDOM > (Fat_and_Dirty_OM.200809_20081023.rootfs.tar.gz and > Om2008.8-gta02-20080903.uImage.bin) and now it works even better than > qtopia (IMHO). In more than 12 hours and 1 reboot (to reproduce the > experiment - I didn't believe it) no re-registering, receiving call > (resume after suspend) and making call 100%. > Wow. That's fantastic! As soon as I have a new SIM card (somehow the old one broke) I'm going to play with this! Thank you for this post. :-) Paul -- Everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it. -Publius Syrus http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM and Ticket #1024 - gsm modem oscillating between registrated / not-registrated
On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 22:30:01 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I can't use my FR because of bug #1024. > > Few days ago i flashed qtopia 4.3.2 and patched it with Mwester work > (http://moko.mwester.net/brc.html); it was quite good but I don't like > qtopia ... > > I started Reading > http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1024 > and > http://www.teaparty.net/technotes/openmoko-2.html#Calypso. > > > I used AT%SLEEP=2 with FDOM > (Fat_and_Dirty_OM.200809_20081023.rootfs.tar.gz and > Om2008.8-gta02-20080903.uImage.bin) and now it works even better than > qtopia (IMHO). In more than 12 hours and 1 reboot (to reproduce the > experiment > - I didn't believe it) no re-registering, receiving call (resume after > suspend) and making call 100%. > I don't know if it's the good work of FDOM guys or anything else, ... > but after today intensive tests I start thinking of FR as a really > usable phone !! Its very Great that you liked FDOM , note that if you need ( or anyone else on planet! ) need something new on FDOM , have a cool idea , know a bug ( simply knowledge of 'something is wrong' is valuable enough , not always a fix is necessary for report ) you can join Fdom Devel list and post them there! ;) We will open 'merge window' for one week after each release to accepting new ideas and fixes :) -- Armin ranjbar , System Administrator ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FDOM and Ticket #1024 - gsm modem oscillating between registrated / not-registrated
I can't use my FR because of bug #1024. Few days ago i flashed qtopia 4.3.2 and patched it with Mwester work (http://moko.mwester.net/brc.html); it was quite good but I don't like qtopia ... I started Reading http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1024 and http://www.teaparty.net/technotes/openmoko-2.html#Calypso. I used AT%SLEEP=2 with FDOM (Fat_and_Dirty_OM.200809_20081023.rootfs.tar.gz and Om2008.8-gta02-20080903.uImage.bin) and now it works even better than qtopia (IMHO). In more than 12 hours and 1 reboot (to reproduce the experiment - I didn't believe it) no re-registering, receiving call (resume after suspend) and making call 100%. I don't know if it's the good work of FDOM guys or anything else, ... but after today intensive tests I start thinking of FR as a really usable phone !! For anyone interested in ... Hi everybody. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
> At last maybe we will get a stable, usable O/S for the Neo (which I > have shelved until such a thing > exists). I was using Qt but QtExtended was a step backwards in > stability. I am very happy to see > Android available for development, I may un-shelve my Neo blow off > the dust and help port it! > Yup. Hooray if we get it working on Freerunner. Finally something to run on Freerunner that might, actually .. work .. ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is Openmoko working on their 'back to basics' plan?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: |> Jeremy is working together with kernel guy (aka Matt Hsu) to look into |> the possible improvement, namely take a screenshot and show it first |> during resume. It's a common technique in mobile phone. | | The issue is not to make resume appear faster, but rather to make resume | fast enough that you don't miss calls. So displaying a screnshot won't | help (and would rather make it worse by spending time brining up the | screenshot rather than doing useful work). Resume in kernel side can complete in a couple of seconds, another second to get audio up. (What the delay is to get the wake signal from the GSM module compared to when the call was placed, and the delay in userspace side after we are up I dunno nor can I do much about it). I agree it doesn't sound like sticking pictures up (in kernel???) does anything useful. The problem with kernel part of resume is just simply stability, it is very much on my mind and indeed on my desk right now. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkkDfjMACgkQOjLpvpq7dMrAbACfb+mednwpZ+9q/bEEvhWWY7JM du4An00U8GinGxXLrp9A8SC9dzmQR2GD =laWh -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: what about crontab?
I installed cron from Angstrom repository: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Users_Repositories#Angstrom_Repository I did an alarm clock by using crontab, which launches mplayer wakeup.mp3 It works great! On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Armin ranjbar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:46:19 -0700 (PDT) > lanzo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hello everybody! > > I've looked for this in the past topics but didn't find any true > > answer... > > > > How is it possible to plan jobs in FR just like i do with my linuxbox > > with crontab? > > I always liked the way crontab works and I thought this was possible in > > FR too. > > > > Is there any other way to do that maybe? > > Tnx everybody! > > bye! > > lanzo > > -- > > View this message in context: > > http://n2.nabble.com/what-about-crontab--tp1376307p1376307.html Sent > > from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > Atd service is present too . > > > -- > Armin ranjbar , System Administrator > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
3) combination touchscreen plus qwerty - G1 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is Openmoko working on their 'back to basics' plan?
> Jeremy is working together with kernel guy (aka Matt Hsu) to look into > the possible improvement, namely take a screenshot and show it first > during resume. It's a common technique in mobile phone. The issue is not to make resume appear faster, but rather to make resume fast enough that you don't miss calls. So displaying a screnshot won't help (and would rather make it worse by spending time brining up the screenshot rather than doing useful work). Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
I was undecided but Stroller really hit the point for me, so I vote 1) On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 08:09:56PM +0100, Stroller wrote: > > On 25 Oct 2008, at 17:39, JW wrote: > > vote and tell OM what you want for the next phone > > > > [also realise this is still a long time away and Freerunner is > > available to buy > > now!] > > > > 1) touchscreen (no qwerty buttons) - freerunner, HTC Orbit, iphone > > 2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball - blackberry curve > > 3) combination touchscreen plus qwerty - G1 > > > > *** > > Please don't write endless pages about why - just indicate which one > > YOU want. > > *** > > Hi JW, > > You're not posting from an @openmoko address, so does this vote have > an actual benefit? > > Do we get to influence the final design of the GTA03? > Or is this just an exercise in filling up our email boxes? > > I apologise for asking this if I've failed to realise that you're > famously Openmoko's hardware design manager. > > I would personally vote for touchscreen just like the Freerunner, so > that there is less risk of divergence in the input methods of > important software whilst Openmoko-based software stacks are > establishing themselves. Adding options for different input methods > and dealing with the bugs that may introduce by supporting them is not > beneficial at this time - once the stack is solid & stable, then they > can be added. > > (Actually, having looked at the other options, I would vote for > touchscreen-only in any case. I might potentially find a trackball, d- > pad or a couple extra programmable buttons useful, but I don't want > space taken up by a keyboard that will be too small to use, anyway. > Just maximise the screenspace!) -- Keep the Lasagna flying! Today is Pungenday, the 6th day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
On 25 Oct 2008, at 17:39, JW wrote: > vote and tell OM what you want for the next phone > > [also realise this is still a long time away and Freerunner is > available to buy > now!] > > 1) touchscreen (no qwerty buttons) - freerunner, HTC Orbit, iphone > 2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball - blackberry curve > 3) combination touchscreen plus qwerty - G1 > > *** > Please don't write endless pages about why - just indicate which one > YOU want. > *** Hi JW, You're not posting from an @openmoko address, so does this vote have an actual benefit? Do we get to influence the final design of the GTA03? Or is this just an exercise in filling up our email boxes? I apologise for asking this if I've failed to realise that you're famously Openmoko's hardware design manager. I would personally vote for touchscreen just like the Freerunner, so that there is less risk of divergence in the input methods of important software whilst Openmoko-based software stacks are establishing themselves. Adding options for different input methods and dealing with the bugs that may introduce by supporting them is not beneficial at this time - once the stack is solid & stable, then they can be added. (Actually, having looked at the other options, I would vote for touchscreen-only in any case. I might potentially find a trackball, d- pad or a couple extra programmable buttons useful, but I don't want space taken up by a keyboard that will be too small to use, anyway. Just maximise the screenspace!) Stroller. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
Am Saturday 25 October 2008 19:08:28 schrieb Paul: > Thorben Krueger wrote: > > 1) or 2) could then keep the software stack more minimal -> no > > software keyboard necessary, so us geeks can run some ncurses/terminal > > based minimal UI and freak people out. > > Ah-yeah! I am so with you!! :-) THAT would be really srsly geeky! :D ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
My preferences, in order: 3) combination touchscreen plus qwerty 1) touchscreen (no qwerty buttons) 2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
2008/10/25 JW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Ok Community, > > vote and tell OM what you want for the next phone > > [also realise this is still a long time away and Freerunner is available to > buy > now!] > > 1) touchscreen (no qwerty buttons) - freerunner, HTC Orbit, iphone > 2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball - blackberry curve > 3) combination touchscreen plus qwerty - G1 > > *** > Please don't write endless pages about why - just indicate which one YOU want. > *** > > For myself my vote is > > 1) no, my HTC orbit experience was horrible (yes, i realise there are better) > 2) yes, my preferred user input method - intuitive, fast, flexible > 3) no, i think combo is too much to ask from OM right now > > ciao > JW > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > Absolutely 1 Davide ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
Quoting JW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Ok Community, > > vote and tell OM what you want for the next phone > 1) touchscreen (no qwerty buttons) - freerunner, HTC Orbit, iphone > 2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball - blackberry curve > 3) combination touchscreen plus qwerty - G1 > In order of preference; 3) combo : if it's a slide out with big keys ie HTC Touch Pro 1) touchscreen : not quite as deep set as GTA02 2) qwerty & tracker ball : I'd rather not physically reduce screen space IanS ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
On Saturday 25 October 2008 19:55:53 Dylan McCall wrote: > Something that could be interesting to ponder, with regards to the > combo layout, is Sony's keypad add-on. It is designed so that one can > run his finger over the keys and use it as a track pad, presumably via > some kind of touch sensitive surface. It's a very cool idea and could > be a useful control mechanism. > This way, the tracker ball thing could be implemented without taking > up exra space. > and being sony, is probably patented 7 ways to sunday... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
On Saturday 25 October 2008 18:39:18 JW wrote: > 2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball - blackberry curve > 3) combination touchscreen plus qwerty - G1 technically the G1 has a trackball as well, but i got to say, i have a fondness for slideout keyboards. that is, if the buttons are of the right size (those found on the sonyericsson SX1 is a bit small for my taste). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
Something that could be interesting to ponder, with regards to the combo layout, is Sony's keypad add-on. It is designed so that one can run his finger over the keys and use it as a track pad, presumably via some kind of touch sensitive surface. It's a very cool idea and could be a useful control mechanism. This way, the tracker ball thing could be implemented without taking up exra space. Bye, -Dylan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: what about crontab?
On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:46:19 -0700 (PDT) lanzo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello everybody! > I've looked for this in the past topics but didn't find any true > answer... > > How is it possible to plan jobs in FR just like i do with my linuxbox > with crontab? > I always liked the way crontab works and I thought this was possible in > FR too. > > Is there any other way to do that maybe? > Tnx everybody! > bye! > lanzo > -- > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/what-about-crontab--tp1376307p1376307.html Sent > from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Atd service is present too . -- Armin ranjbar , System Administrator ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
what about crontab?
Hello everybody! I've looked for this in the past topics but didn't find any true answer... How is it possible to plan jobs in FR just like i do with my linuxbox with crontab? I always liked the way crontab works and I thought this was possible in FR too. Is there any other way to do that maybe? Tnx everybody! bye! lanzo -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/what-about-crontab--tp1376307p1376307.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
definitely 3) qwerty + touchscreen This shouldn't be too hard to do, I don't think it's too much to ask of OM - surely the keyboard could be a built-in USB keyboard, which would mean that all the software etc is already there. All we'd need is a way to disable the on-screen keyboard, something we'll want for bluetooth/USB keyboards on the GTA02 anyway... -Dale JW wrote: > Ok Community, > > vote and tell OM what you want for the next phone > > [also realise this is still a long time away and Freerunner is available to > buy > now!] > > 1) touchscreen (no qwerty buttons) - freerunner, HTC Orbit, iphone > 2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball - blackberry curve > 3) combination touchscreen plus qwerty - G1 > > *** > Please don't write endless pages about why - just indicate which one YOU want. > *** > > For myself my vote is > > 1) no, my HTC orbit experience was horrible (yes, i realise there are better) > 2) yes, my preferred user input method - intuitive, fast, flexible > 3) no, i think combo is too much to ask from OM right now > > ciao > JW > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
I like option 1 and agree the the screen should be more flush with the border. -Jason On Sat, 2008-10-25 at 18:50 +0200, arne anka wrote: > > 1) touchscreen (no qwerty buttons) - freerunner, HTC Orbit, iphone > > 2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball - blackberry curve > > 3) combination touchscreen plus qwerty - G1 > > 4) 5-way-rocker switch (maybe with two softkeys left and right) -- palm pda > > the only thing i miss right now (maybe someone figures out a hardware mod > to th freerunner -- internal usb or bluetooth? it could live where the > lanyard hole is) > > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
Saturday 25 October 2008 Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen wrote: > Saturday 25 October 2008 JW wrote: > > Ok Community, > > > > vote and tell OM what you want for the next phone > > > > [also realise this is still a long time away and Freerunner is available > > to buy now!] > > > > 1) touchscreen (no qwerty buttons) - freerunner, HTC Orbit, iphone > > 2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball - blackberry curve > > 3) combination touchscreen plus qwerty - G1 > > 3) The touch screen already works, and the addition of a small form factor > qwerty keyboard underneath a smaller screen* would add functionality, make > it more geek-friendly, and also force the developers of the different UIs > to think resolution independence, which is good for the whole reference > framework thing that OpenMoko also does. > > * This has already been aired by people like rasterman - hvga or the like > is sufficient for the iPhone's, so why not us? > > ..Dan // Leinir.. > http://leinir.dk/ A small extra note: If this would push the release of the phone back three or even six months compared to the other two options, i believe the end product would be worth the wait. :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
Number 3 ) Combo shawn sullivan wrote: > > I vote for option 3 (everything else on the market is now a touch > screen, we can't take a step back) > > JW wrote: >> Ok Community, >> >> vote and tell OM what you want for the next phone >> >> [also realise this is still a long time away and Freerunner is available >> to buy >> now!] >> >> 1) touchscreen (no qwerty buttons) - freerunner, HTC Orbit, iphone >> 2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball - blackberry curve >> 3) combination touchscreen plus qwerty - G1 >> >> *** >> Please don't write endless pages about why - just indicate which one YOU >> want. >> *** >> >> For myself my vote is >> >> 1) no, my HTC orbit experience was horrible (yes, i realise there are >> better) >> 2) yes, my preferred user input method - intuitive, fast, flexible >> 3) no, i think combo is too much to ask from OM right now >> >> ciao >> JW > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/GTA03---buttons-or-touchscreen-tp1376109p1376267.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
#3 for sure. On October 25, 2008, JW wrote: > Ok Community, > > vote and tell OM what you want for the next phone > > [also realise this is still a long time away and Freerunner is available to > buy now!] > > 1) touchscreen (no qwerty buttons) - freerunner, HTC Orbit, iphone > 2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball - blackberry curve > 3) combination touchscreen plus qwerty - G1 > > *** > Please don't write endless pages about why - just indicate which one YOU > want. *** > > For myself my vote is > > 1) no, my HTC orbit experience was horrible (yes, i realise there are > better) 2) yes, my preferred user input method - intuitive, fast, flexible > 3) no, i think combo is too much to ask from OM right now > > ciao > JW > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Gabriel A. Devenyi B.Eng. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
I vote for option 3 (everything else on the market is now a touch screen, we can't take a step back) JW wrote: > Ok Community, > > vote and tell OM what you want for the next phone > > [also realise this is still a long time away and Freerunner is available to > buy > now!] > > 1) touchscreen (no qwerty buttons) - freerunner, HTC Orbit, iphone > 2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball - blackberry curve > 3) combination touchscreen plus qwerty - G1 > > *** > Please don't write endless pages about why - just indicate which one YOU want. > *** > > For myself my vote is > > 1) no, my HTC orbit experience was horrible (yes, i realise there are better) > 2) yes, my preferred user input method - intuitive, fast, flexible > 3) no, i think combo is too much to ask from OM right now > > ciao > JW ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
In order of preference: Combination keyboard + qwerty Keyboard + trackball Touchscreen (Preferably with a few extra physical buttons though) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alternative Case Designs
Tobias Kündig wrote: > I made a little tutorial about how you can change the look of your > Freerunner's Case Nifty! I like that! Good show. :-) -- Everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it. -Publius Syrus http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
Thorben Krueger wrote: > 1) or 2) could then keep the software stack more minimal -> no > software keyboard necessary, so us geeks can run some ncurses/terminal > based minimal UI and freak people out. > Ah-yeah! I am so with you!! :-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
3) combination touchscreen plus qwerty - G1 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
Touch Screen only but without borders - like in Iphone. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 16:39:18 + (UTC) JW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 3) no, i think combo is too much to ask from OM right now -- Armin ranjbar , System Administrator ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
2) or 3) could then keep the software stack more minimal -> no software keyboard necessary, so us geeks can run some ncurses/terminal based minimal UI and freak people out. (forget my previous mail, nasty brainfart there) 2008/10/25 Thorben Krueger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 1) or 2) could then keep the software stack more minimal -> no > software keyboard necessary, so us geeks can run some ncurses/terminal > based minimal UI and freak people out. > > 2008/10/25 Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >>> 2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball - blackberry curve >>> >> >> Would be my option. >> >> Paul >> >> -- >> Everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it. >> -Publius Syrus >> >> http://www.nlpagan.net >> Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 >> >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
1) or 2) could then keep the software stack more minimal -> no software keyboard necessary, so us geeks can run some ncurses/terminal based minimal UI and freak people out. 2008/10/25 Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> 2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball - blackberry curve >> > > Would be my option. > > Paul > > -- > Everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it. > -Publius Syrus > > http://www.nlpagan.net > Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
Combo would be great (maybe some kind of these slide-display-sideways things). TS only would work too, if a combo is too much. Am 25.10.2008 18:39, JW schrieb: > Ok Community, > > vote and tell OM what you want for the next phone > > [also realise this is still a long time away and Freerunner is available to > buy > now!] > > 1) touchscreen (no qwerty buttons) - freerunner, HTC Orbit, iphone > 2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball - blackberry curve > 3) combination touchscreen plus qwerty - G1 > > *** > Please don't write endless pages about why - just indicate which one YOU want. > *** > > For myself my vote is > > 1) no, my HTC orbit experience was horrible (yes, i realise there are better) > 2) yes, my preferred user input method - intuitive, fast, flexible > 3) no, i think combo is too much to ask from OM right now > > ciao > JW > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
3) Definitely keyboard and touchscreen. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Re: Alternative Case Designs
> >> I made a little tutorial about how you can change the look of your > >> Freerunner's Case. > >> It's available at http://www.opkg.org/specials/. Just on a side note: please make those text in frames colored rather than leaving it default... it ruins the look of the page when using black-on-white themes (but don't change the whole page to be black-on-white, I like everything except that "bug" ;)). rhn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
> 2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball - blackberry curve > Would be my option. Paul -- Everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it. -Publius Syrus http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
Best: Combo Could also live with: TS only -Marcel Am Saturday 25 October 2008 18:39:18 schrieb JW: > Ok Community, > > vote and tell OM what you want for the next phone > > [also realise this is still a long time away and Freerunner is available to > buy now!] > > 1) touchscreen (no qwerty buttons) - freerunner, HTC Orbit, iphone > 2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball - blackberry curve > 3) combination touchscreen plus qwerty - G1 > > *** > Please don't write endless pages about why - just indicate which one YOU > want. *** > > For myself my vote is > > 1) no, my HTC orbit experience was horrible (yes, i realise there are > better) 2) yes, my preferred user input method - intuitive, fast, flexible > 3) no, i think combo is too much to ask from OM right now > > ciao > JW > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
On of the: > 2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball - blackberry curve > 3) combination touchscreen plus qwerty - G1 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
Saturday 25 October 2008 JW wrote: > Ok Community, > > vote and tell OM what you want for the next phone > > [also realise this is still a long time away and Freerunner is available to > buy now!] > > 1) touchscreen (no qwerty buttons) - freerunner, HTC Orbit, iphone > 2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball - blackberry curve > 3) combination touchscreen plus qwerty - G1 3) The touch screen already works, and the addition of a small form factor qwerty keyboard underneath a smaller screen* would add functionality, make it more geek-friendly, and also force the developers of the different UIs to think resolution independence, which is good for the whole reference framework thing that OpenMoko also does. * This has already been aired by people like rasterman - hvga or the like is sufficient for the iPhone's, so why not us? ..Dan // Leinir.. http://leinir.dk/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
Wiadomość Oryginalna Od: JW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Do: community@lists.openmoko.org Data: 25 października 2008 18:39 Temat: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen > Ok Community, > > vote and tell OM what you want for the next phone > > [also realise this is still a long time away and Freerunner is available to > buy > now!] > > 1) touchscreen (no qwerty buttons) - freerunner, HTC Orbit, iphone > 2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball - blackberry curve > 3) combination touchscreen plus qwerty - G1 > > *** > Please don't write endless pages about why - just indicate which one YOU want. > *** > > For myself my vote is > > 1) no, my HTC orbit experience was horrible (yes, i realise there are better) > 2) yes, my preferred user input method - intuitive, fast, flexible > 3) no, i think combo is too much to ask from OM right now > > ciao > JW > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community In order of preference: combo keyboard touchscreen Tactile feedback doesn't need so much focus on the things done and is also more accurate in the most common phone use cases. Not all, though. I think you should also specify whether it'd be a qwerty keyboard and multitouch screen. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
3) combination touchscreen plus qwerty - G1 -- hiciu ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
Am Samstag, 25. Oktober 2008 schrieb JW: > Ok Community, > > vote and tell OM what you want for the next phone > > [also realise this is still a long time away and Freerunner is available to > buy now!] > > 1) touchscreen (no qwerty buttons) - freerunner, HTC Orbit, iphone > 2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball - blackberry curve > 3) combination touchscreen plus qwerty - G1 I like version 1, but with no hig border around the display, as the FreeRunner has. I would like it as the iPhone. 1) yes 2) no 3) no be blessed Natanael -- Web: http://natanael.comiles.eu E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber/XMPP: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 168210209 Skype: white_gecko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
> 1) touchscreen (no qwerty buttons) - freerunner, HTC Orbit, iphone > 2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball - blackberry curve > 3) combination touchscreen plus qwerty - G1 4) 5-way-rocker switch (maybe with two softkeys left and right) -- palm pda the only thing i miss right now (maybe someone figures out a hardware mod to th freerunner -- internal usb or bluetooth? it could live where the lanyard hole is) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
Ok Community, vote and tell OM what you want for the next phone [also realise this is still a long time away and Freerunner is available to buy now!] 1) touchscreen (no qwerty buttons) - freerunner, HTC Orbit, iphone 2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball - blackberry curve 3) combination touchscreen plus qwerty - G1 *** Please don't write endless pages about why - just indicate which one YOU want. *** For myself my vote is 1) no, my HTC orbit experience was horrible (yes, i realise there are better) 2) yes, my preferred user input method - intuitive, fast, flexible 3) no, i think combo is too much to ask from OM right now ciao JW ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release
On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Fabian Henze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What about this one: > http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=stable > I like the way you think! That would be great. Are you saying you are using this one? And you can ssh through usb and make phone calls and use gps, etc? So what did you do about the modules for this kernel? How do you setup a system to get the right modules for this kernel? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release
On 25.10.2008 at 16:13:27, Geoff Ruscoe wrote: > So I'm downloading the new FDOM image, but unfortunately I don't see what > kernel I should use with it. > > Is there a best kernel to go with it? > > Thanks What about this one: http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=stable ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: European Freerunner in USA?
I just tried this for you in Las Vegas - no problem making a call being roaming connected to Cingular (with my european FR), Petr On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 01:57:00 -0700 "Jeffrey Malone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (JM) wrote: >Okay, as others have reported, the non-North American version of the >FreeRunner will work in the US. > >In California and Nevada, there is extensive coverage by both ATT and >T-Mobile on the 1900 band. Both offer prepaid SIM cards. >If you do end up getting a prepaid SIM, there are two things to note: > >T-Mobile US does not sell any data plans to their prepaid customers >(so you will not have ANY data with T-Mobile US on a prepaid SIM) >ATT reportedly sells data at a $20/mo cost (unlimited usage). >However, due to a very long reason, T-Mobile coverage would *in >theory* be better, as ATT also relies on 850 towers (T-Mobile US only >has 1900 towers) -- but in major places like San Francisco and Las >Vegas, it is unlikely to be a problem. > >Also, you asked about HSPDA modems. A quick look into the modems >shows they are UMTS/HSDPA/EDGE/GPRS. The modems' UMTS/HSPDA will not >work here on any carrier. The 2100 band, which everyone 3g outside of >the US uses, is used for something else. >ATT uses 850/1900 hybrid bands, and T-Mobile US uses 1700/2100 hybrid >(which is not compatible with just 2100). >Assuming the modems support 1900, then GPRS/EDGE will work with them. > >Please note that I am not a prepaid customer, so the prices and >availability I've quoted for prepaid data may be incorrect. > >Jeffrey > > >On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 12:48 AM, Joel Newkirk ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:59:14 +1000, Dale Maggee >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Bryan DeLuca wrote: On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:46:05 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm going to travel to the USA next month from Sweden. I will be > in San Fransisco and Vegas. > > I would like to use my Freerunner as much as possible as a phone, > so I have some questions: > - Will gsm roaming with Telenor(Vodaphone) work well, or should I > buy a temporary card in the states? > - I have Huawei E220 and E270 3g (HSUPA) modems, do they work > well in the states? How much will a temporary flat rate 3g card > cost? >> >> >>> Isn't it a hardware thing? I.e the GSM networks in the USA operate >>> on a different frequency? will it work at all with any carrier? >> >> T-Mobile and AT&T have 1900mhz support most everywhere in the US. >> Both versions of the FreeRunner support 1800 and 1900mhz, the only >> difference being 850mhz in North America vs 900Mhz elsewhere for the >> third band. >> >> j >> >> >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> -- Petr Vaněk http://biodynamika.cz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release
On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:13:27 -0400 "Geoff Ruscoe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So I'm downloading the new FDOM image, but unfortunately I don't see what > kernel I should use with it. > > Is there a best kernel to go with it? > > Thanks > Well , any kernel that works with om2008.9 :) ideally , om2008.9 kernel . -- Armin ranjbar , System Administrator ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release
Am Saturday 25 October 2008 16:54:52 schrieb Pander: > On Sat, October 25, 2008 16:26, Marcel wrote: > > Am Saturday 25 October 2008 16:13:27 schrieb Geoff Ruscoe: > >> So I'm downloading the new FDOM image, but unfortunately I don't see > >> what > >> kernel I should use with it. > >> > >> Is there a best kernel to go with it? > > I'm using Om2008.8-update with latest FDOM but am also looking at an > alternative. > > >> Thanks > > > > I'm using mwester's one. Seems to work well. > > Do you mean this one? > http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html Yes. > How does this relate to Om2008.8-update? I don't know. Simply using it... > What is the exact installation procedure you use (think neotool) Do you > also need to install the minimal modules or other stuff or does that come > with FDOM anyway? Since I don't see the kernel output on booting I didn't see if it's missing modules on first boot, but I copied the modules also because most kernels need their own special module set (from my experience). Installation: as simple as $ dfu-util -a kernel -R -D uImage.bin :) -Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alternative Case Designs
Great! It's ok that my images are used. Thank you. Am 25.10.2008 16:47, Pander schrieb: > Tobias, > > After reading your post, I have added this to the Wiki: > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wish_List_-_Hardware#Custom_look > > Let me know if it is all right that your images are being used for this. > If not I will remove them asap. > > On Sat, October 25, 2008 13:49, Tobias Kündig wrote: > >> Hello everyone! >> >> I made a little tutorial about how you can change the look of your >> Freerunner's Case. >> It's available at http://www.opkg.org/specials/. >> >> Maybe someone else wants to be creative too... ;-) >> >> Regards, >> Tobias >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> >> > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release
On Sat, October 25, 2008 16:26, Marcel wrote: > Am Saturday 25 October 2008 16:13:27 schrieb Geoff Ruscoe: >> So I'm downloading the new FDOM image, but unfortunately I don't see >> what >> kernel I should use with it. >> >> Is there a best kernel to go with it? I'm using Om2008.8-update with latest FDOM but am also looking at an alternative. >> >> Thanks > > I'm using mwester's one. Seems to work well. Do you mean this one? http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html How does this relate to Om2008.8-update? What is the exact installation procedure you use (think neotool) Do you also need to install the minimal modules or other stuff or does that come with FDOM anyway? Pander > > -marcel > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alternative Case Designs
Tobias, After reading your post, I have added this to the Wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wish_List_-_Hardware#Custom_look Let me know if it is all right that your images are being used for this. If not I will remove them asap. On Sat, October 25, 2008 13:49, Tobias Kündig wrote: > Hello everyone! > > I made a little tutorial about how you can change the look of your > Freerunner's Case. > It's available at http://www.opkg.org/specials/. > > Maybe someone else wants to be creative too... ;-) > > Regards, > Tobias > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release
Am Saturday 25 October 2008 16:13:27 schrieb Geoff Ruscoe: > So I'm downloading the new FDOM image, but unfortunately I don't see what > kernel I should use with it. > > Is there a best kernel to go with it? > > Thanks I'm using mwester's one. Seems to work well. -marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FDOM] best kernel to use for new release
So I'm downloading the new FDOM image, but unfortunately I don't see what kernel I should use with it. Is there a best kernel to go with it? Thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: External wired small USB keyboard
or use the diamond and supply stickers which, when applied, cover the diamond with another image, Tux, Apple meta, etc. Then again, the diamond is nice and neutral. I like that idea. On Fri, October 24, 2008 22:22, feywulf wrote: > Or it could be left blank so any image could be applied to it. A sticker > decal sheet to apply one of a selection of different images to let it > appeal to as large a group as possible. It might be hard to get a sticker > that wouldn't come off when rolled up. > > On older Unix keyboards the meta/super key had a diamond shaped graphic. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta_key > > -feywulf > > > --- On Fri, 10/24/08, Pander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> From: Pander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: External wired small USB keyboard >> To: "List for Openmoko community discussion" >> >> Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 12:42 PM >> Why not a Tux? That would cover a greater market. Note that >> a sticker >> should be on the package, specifically designed for Linux. >> >> Alternatively, what would be a more generic symbol for >> meta/super? In >> that case you can 'use' it with Win/Mac/Lin. >> >> Joseph Reeves wrote: >> > Unfortunately it's the Windows key, more pictures >> here: >> > >> > http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/20080716 >> > >> > If interest is high enough, however, I could probably >> get a batch >> > produced with whatever logo people want. Openmoko key >> anyone? >> > >> > Joseph >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > 2008/10/24 feywulf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >> Looks very cool. The most important question is, >> What logo is on the meta/super key? Hopefully not the >> windows logo. >> >> >> >> -feywulf >> >> >> >> >> >> --- On Fri, 10/24/08, Joseph Reeves >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >>> From: Joseph Reeves >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>> Subject: Re: External wired small USB keyboard >> >>> To: "List for Openmoko community >> discussion" >> >>> Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 10:20 AM >> >>> Hi, >> >>> >> >>> We don't have any with a built in USB hub, >> but you may >> >>> be interested in: >> >>> >> >>> http://oadigital.net/hardware/duraflex >> >>> >> >>> Especially the smaller model: >> >>> >> >>> >> http://oadigital.net/hardware/duraflex/duraflex-mini >> >>> >> >>> Cheers, >> >>> >> >>> Joseph >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> 2008/10/24 Pander >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Hi all, >> >> I'm looking for a wired small USB >> keyboard to use >> >>> on a Freerunner. I'm >> looking for one: >> - which is small in size, max 12 inch or >> 30 cm wide >> - has qwerty layout >> - has preferably no multi media buttons / >> hot keys >> - has preferably no LEDs >> - has a type A USB hub >> - has a mini type B USB jack >> >> Especially the last requirement is hard to >> match >> >>> (find). So far I'm >> stuck with: >> http://www.fentek-ind.com/kbmsm.htm >> http://www.fentek-ind.com/kbmsmusbb2.htm >> http://www.directron.com/kl51.html >> http://www.directron.com/psk3100u.html >> >> Does any of you know of a keyboard matches >> more of the >> >>> above requirements? >> Thanks, >> >> Pander >> >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> >> >>> >> ___ >> >>> Openmoko community mailing list >> >>> community@lists.openmoko.org >> >>> >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> Openmoko community mailing list >> >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> >> >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> >> >> > >> > ___ >> > Openmoko community mailing list >> > community@lists.openmoko.org >> > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: External wired small USB keyboard
On power drawing from an USB hub in a keyboard, I have the following question. Is it possible to connect at the same time: - USB power charger or network over USB with your desktop/laptop (does this also charge a little bit the Neo?) - external USB keyboard - perhaps one other USB device (low power consumption, almost passive) Is this feesable with some sort of HUB combination? On Sat, October 25, 2008 00:15, Robin Paulson wrote: > 2008/10/25 Pander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> - which is small in size, max 12 inch or 30 cm wide >> - has qwerty layout >> - has preferably no multi media buttons / hot keys >> - has preferably no LEDs >> - has a type A USB hub >> - has a mini type B USB jack > > i think you're going to find that last one near impossible. i'd > suggest hack one your self, or buy an adapter. i got one for US$3 > > try this for small: > http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=10779 82mm wide > > or this > > http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=10838 218mm wide > > no hub in either though > > iirc some people here had problems with using hubs in keyboard on the > neo - power draw i think was an issue. might want to check the > archives before looking > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Auto-reject incoming phone calls
Hi,
I've coded some little script which allows you to reject incoming phone calls by
putting your phone on the desk with its screen facing the desk.
Additionally, after rejecting the phone call, script sends an SMS with
your apologise
and note that you'll contact the caller later.
So, use case is like this:
1. You're on some meeting/lecture/at work etc., your phone is laying on the desk
somewhere near you with it's screen oriented up.
2. The phone rings, but you don'w want to/have time to answer it
3. Insted of clicking the reject button, you can simply place the
phone so it has it's
screen oriented down.
4. Phone rejects the call and sends sms.
script works on the FSO and is using Call and SMS DBus interfaces.
Kamil
#!/usr/bin/python
import dbus
from dbus.mainloop.glib import DBusGMainLoop
import gobject
import os
import threading
import struct
DBusGMainLoop(set_as_default=True)
gobject.threads_init()
bus = dbus.SystemBus()
gsm_device_obj = bus.get_object( 'org.freesmartphone.ogsmd', '/org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device' )
gsm_call_iface = dbus.Interface(gsm_device_obj, 'org.freesmartphone.GSM.Call')
sms_iface = dbus.Interface(gsm_device_obj, 'org.freesmartphone.GSM.SMS')
#audio_iface = dbus.Interface(gsm_device_obj, 'org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio')
#audio_iface.StopAllSounds()
class Worker(threading.Thread):
position = "unknown"
call_status = "unknown"
call_peer_no = "unknown"
def __init__ (self, sensor_file_name):
self.sensor = open(sensor_file_name, "rb")
threading.Thread.__init__(self)
def run (self):
event = self.sensor.read(16)
print "Sensor reading..."
while event:
(time1,time2, type, code, value) = struct.unpack("iihhi",event)
time = time1 + time2 / 100.0
if type == 2:
if code == 0:
x = value
if code == 1:
y = value
if code == 2:
z = value
if type == 0 and code == 0:
self.interpret_position(x,y,z)
#print x, y, z
event = self.sensor.read(16)
def interpret_position ( self, x, y, z ):
if ( z < -400 ):
if self.position == "face_up":
print "Laying on my face! Call status=" + self.call_status
if self.call_status == "incoming":
self.reject_incoming_call()
self.position = "face_down"
if ( z > 400 ):
if self.position == "face_down":
print "Laying on my back!"
self.position = "face_up"
def call_status_changed ( self, id, new_status, properties ):
print "Call status changed to " + new_status
self.call_status = new_status
if new_status == "incoming":
self.call_peer_no = properties[u'peer']
else:
self.call_peer_no = "undef"
def reject_incoming_call ( self ):
print "There is incoming call, rejecting it"
gsm_call_iface.ReleaseAll()
if self.call_peer_no != "undef":
try:
sms_iface.SendMessage( self.call_peer_no, "Hi, I'm really busy right now, but I'll call you later!", {})
except:
print "Some error while sending sms"
worker = Worker("/dev/input/event3")
mainloop = gobject.MainLoop()
bus.add_signal_receiver(
worker.call_status_changed, "CallStatus", "org.freesmartphone.GSM.Call", "org.freesmartphone.ogsmd", "/org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device" )
gobject.idle_add(worker.start)
mainloop.run()
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Re: Alternative Case Designs
Yeah, thought of this too. But I already finished work and forgot to take the phtotos. Maybe I add some later! Am 25.10.2008 13:56, Rafael Campos schrieb: > Nice!! > > I like it, could you do a photo-step tutorial? This is what everybody likes :) > > Regards > > On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Tobias Kündig<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hello everyone! >> >> I made a little tutorial about how you can change the look of your >> Freerunner's Case. >> It's available at http://www.opkg.org/specials/. >> >> Maybe someone else wants to be creative too... ;-) >> >> Regards, >> Tobias >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> >> > > > > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alternative Case Designs
Nice!! I like it, could you do a photo-step tutorial? This is what everybody likes :) Regards On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Tobias Kündig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello everyone! > > I made a little tutorial about how you can change the look of your > Freerunner's Case. > It's available at http://www.opkg.org/specials/. > > Maybe someone else wants to be creative too... ;-) > > Regards, > Tobias > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- ___ Rafael Campos o0 Methril 0o http://openblog.methril.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Alternative Case Designs
Hello everyone! I made a little tutorial about how you can change the look of your Freerunner's Case. It's available at http://www.opkg.org/specials/. Maybe someone else wants to be creative too... ;-) Regards, Tobias ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Frameworkd broken in update
On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:36:48 +0200, "Julien Cassignol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Joel Newkirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> As it turns out, the dialer and contacts ARE working now, but I have no >> ringer and no audio in calls. I know this was the state a week or two > ago >> with FSO, when I was working with it on top of Raster's previous image. > Is >> it still a problem there as well, or is SHR behind the curve on > frameworkd, >> or what? > > First of all, SHR is unstable, hasn't be released, and that is > intentional. > We will release when we'll feel what we did is ready for stable and > complete use. Even if I personnaly feel confident enough in SHR to use > it on a day to day basis to do telephony stuff, there are still some > quirks, some caveats, that we want to fix before any official release. Understood. I've been testing various images out with my networking tweaks, and am pleased with SHR. I've been using it as my daily phone for about a week, as I played with various aspects. (I'm just finishing up a blog entry on retheming the dialer - I realize the dialer's not finished, but it was used as an example since I'd just finished doing that exact thing) > Just so you know, SHR is built using the latest frameworkd (HEAD) in > fact, so if there's any problem within frameworkd on SHR, blame the > FSO team :-). Thanks. I was running FSO testing on top of Raster's image last week, and had the audio issue there at that time, but in-call audio was fixed before I flashed away. Apparently it's back. > Regarding the SHR trac : http://shr.bearstech.com/trac/. And thank you again. I'll keep track of that. j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
On Wednesday 22 Oct 2008 10:16:55 pm Andy Selby wrote: > > Since i got my neo rather recently, i have only tried 4.4.1. Is 4.3 still > > the better choice? A couple of days ago i lost my daily use phone > > (motoming A1200) and so i now need to use the FR as my daily phone. > > 4.3 is usable as a daily phone for me (YMMV),rock solid suspend and > resume, no dialer issues. > 4.4.1 is a bit unstable for daily use. I have been on with 4.3 for almost a day now. The moment i try to make a call it crashes. I am able to receive calls fine. I did have to change the gsmhandset.state file to prevent the echo. 4.4.1 never really crashed but has bugs like my inability to save a number to the contacts list from the call logs. Is that part of the contacts application? The contacts application is much more usable too with the alphabets on the right. 4.4 also has the inertial scrolling improvement which makes it really easy to browse contacts but its buggy with the touchscreen that registers far too many accidental clicks while scrolling. I am now tending towards 4.4 i really hope there is an update soon that fixes the obvious bugs. Anything expected soon? -- Cheers! Kishore ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: European Freerunner in USA?
Okay, as others have reported, the non-North American version of the FreeRunner will work in the US. In California and Nevada, there is extensive coverage by both ATT and T-Mobile on the 1900 band. Both offer prepaid SIM cards. If you do end up getting a prepaid SIM, there are two things to note: T-Mobile US does not sell any data plans to their prepaid customers (so you will not have ANY data with T-Mobile US on a prepaid SIM) ATT reportedly sells data at a $20/mo cost (unlimited usage). However, due to a very long reason, T-Mobile coverage would *in theory* be better, as ATT also relies on 850 towers (T-Mobile US only has 1900 towers) -- but in major places like San Francisco and Las Vegas, it is unlikely to be a problem. Also, you asked about HSPDA modems. A quick look into the modems shows they are UMTS/HSDPA/EDGE/GPRS. The modems' UMTS/HSPDA will not work here on any carrier. The 2100 band, which everyone 3g outside of the US uses, is used for something else. ATT uses 850/1900 hybrid bands, and T-Mobile US uses 1700/2100 hybrid (which is not compatible with just 2100). Assuming the modems support 1900, then GPRS/EDGE will work with them. Please note that I am not a prepaid customer, so the prices and availability I've quoted for prepaid data may be incorrect. Jeffrey On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 12:48 AM, Joel Newkirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:59:14 +1000, Dale Maggee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> Bryan DeLuca wrote: >>> On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:46:05 +0200 >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> >>> I'm going to travel to the USA next month from Sweden. I will be in San Fransisco and Vegas. I would like to use my Freerunner as much as possible as a phone, so I have some questions: - Will gsm roaming with Telenor(Vodaphone) work well, or should I buy a temporary card in the states? - I have Huawei E220 and E270 3g (HSUPA) modems, do they work well in the states? How much will a temporary flat rate 3g card cost? > > >> Isn't it a hardware thing? I.e the GSM networks in the USA operate on a >> different frequency? will it work at all with any carrier? > > T-Mobile and AT&T have 1900mhz support most everywhere in the US. Both > versions of the FreeRunner support 1800 and 1900mhz, the only difference > being 850mhz in North America vs 900Mhz elsewhere for the third band. > > j > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
CRC Fail
I have noticed that my device takes a lot of time to reach init state , its appear that kernel take huge amount of time to boot filesystem , i have changed log_level of boot args and noticed few CRC Fail 0x1a3f , boot stops for at least 30-40 second on each of them , any idea ? Tested with om2008.9 and daily kernels , same result . this also caused wireless not to work . eth0 isnt there at all! -- Armin ranjbar , System Administrator ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Frameworkd broken in update
On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Joel Newkirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As it turns out, the dialer and contacts ARE working now, but I have no > ringer and no audio in calls. I know this was the state a week or two ago > with FSO, when I was working with it on top of Raster's previous image. Is > it still a problem there as well, or is SHR behind the curve on frameworkd, > or what? First of all, SHR is unstable, hasn't be released, and that is intentional. We will release when we'll feel what we did is ready for stable and complete use. Even if I personnaly feel confident enough in SHR to use it on a day to day basis to do telephony stuff, there are still some quirks, some caveats, that we want to fix before any official release. Just so you know, SHR is built using the latest frameworkd (HEAD) in fact, so if there's any problem within frameworkd on SHR, blame the FSO team :-). Regarding the SHR trac : http://shr.bearstech.com/trac/. -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finger Keyboard
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 15:28, "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Nik Lutz wrote: > > I've not tested your keyboard due to some python errors (etk.TextView > wasn't recognized, and I had not time to workaround/fix it; I got the same error: Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/bin/fingerkeyboard.py", line 309, in > buttons = ButtonPanel() > File "/usr/bin/fingerkeyboard.py", line 214, in __init__ > textfield = etk.TextView() > AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'TextView' > I've waited for a usable keyboard with big buttons. I would love to test yours! The Illume-Keyboard is great, but it's simply not the input method I am searching for. Has anyone fixed this bug yet? Is it possible that someone could share a screenshot? Thanks. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: European Freerunner in USA?
On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:59:14 +1000, Dale Maggee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bryan DeLuca wrote: >> On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:46:05 +0200 >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> >>> I'm going to travel to the USA next month from Sweden. I will be in San >>> Fransisco and Vegas. >>> >>> I would like to use my Freerunner as much as possible as a phone, so I >>> have some questions: >>> - Will gsm roaming with Telenor(Vodaphone) work well, or should I buy a >>> temporary card in the states? >>> - I have Huawei E220 and E270 3g (HSUPA) modems, do they work well in >>> the states? How much will a temporary flat rate 3g card cost? > Isn't it a hardware thing? I.e the GSM networks in the USA operate on a > different frequency? will it work at all with any carrier? T-Mobile and AT&T have 1900mhz support most everywhere in the US. Both versions of the FreeRunner support 1800 and 1900mhz, the only difference being 850mhz in North America vs 900Mhz elsewhere for the third band. j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR] Frameworkd broken in update
Is there a bugtrac somewhere for SHR that I've missed? I've been looking at SHR the past several days. (and all things considered I like what I see - until the issues below it was great for calls, barring the reregistration issue that is apparently my GSM firmware) Yesterday I did an "opkg upgrade" and for the first time since I flashed, it upgraded several packages. When it was finished and rebooted, Dialer and Contacts no longer worked. Then this evening, hoping for a 'fix' I fired off "opkg upgrade" again. It updated the kernel and several modules, with two module installs erroring: WARNING: Error inserting bluetooth (/lib/modules/2.6.24/kernel/net/bluetooth/bluetooth.ko): Invalid module format WARNING: Error inserting snd (/lib/modules/2.6.24/kernel/sound/core/snd.ko): Invalid module format As it turns out, the dialer and contacts ARE working now, but I have no ringer and no audio in calls. I know this was the state a week or two ago with FSO, when I was working with it on top of Raster's previous image. Is it still a problem there as well, or is SHR behind the curve on frameworkd, or what? j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
