Re: latest and greatest, progress mail 5 (stable 2.6.28 usage)
so, you run the full fso-ms5.1 image using my qte binaries on them, and bluetooth works ok? Did you remove frameworkd and stuff? And does bluetooth work after unsuspend as well? hi, i used an image as suggested in your script: http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-stable/milestone5.1/om-gta02/fso-console-image-om-gta02.jffs2 and kernel http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-stable/milestone5.1/om-gta02/uImage-2.6.28-oe1+gitr34240a1c06ae36180dee695aa25bbae869b2aa26-r3-om-gta02.bin i booted (actually once only), usb-sshed in and tested bt with hcitool. all ok, so then i ran your script that did the install all automatically. bt works only before suspend. restarting /etc/init.d/bluetooth enables bt after suspend/wake just for the record: strange enough, my procedure before (when bt didn't work) was: download image as suggested in your script (om based at that time), kernel off your site, modules from om again. i had not tested bt before running your script. after installing qte, no bluetooth. cheers petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QtExtended] QtMoko = QtExtended on debian project
Hi, i have put a small homepage where you can download my QtExtended debian based images and view my GIT tree. I call this project QtMoko - as it should be cute and usable phone for Freerunner. The project page is at: http://activationrecord.net/radekp/openmoko/qtmoko/ I hope you'll find it useful. I will continue to improve the images and homepage and the project will always be 100% free and coordinated with other QTE images out there. Cheers Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: latest and greatest, progress mail 5 (stable 2.6.28 usage)
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:37:12 +0200 Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz wrote: so, you run the full fso-ms5.1 image using my qte binaries on them, and bluetooth works ok? Did you remove frameworkd and stuff? And does bluetooth work after unsuspend as well? hi, i used an image as suggested in your script: http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-stable/milestone5.1/om-gta02/fso-console-image-om-gta02.jffs2 and kernel http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-stable/milestone5.1/om-gta02/uImage-2.6.28-oe1+gitr34240a1c06ae36180dee695aa25bbae869b2aa26-r3-om-gta02.bin i booted (actually once only), usb-sshed in and tested bt with hcitool. all ok, so then i ran your script that did the install all automatically. bt works only before suspend. restarting /etc/init.d/bluetooth enables bt after suspend/wake just for the record: strange enough, my procedure before (when bt didn't work) was: download image as suggested in your script (om based at that time), kernel off your site, modules from om again. i had not tested bt before running your script. after installing qte, no bluetooth. Hi, ok, nothing new then :-) The om-kernel is andy-tracking and has probably some issues. In the latest version, some fixes have been made that affect bluetooth: http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=commit;h=918bf45f92b69c642960b78a7c70a04d5bccb6c3 So I'll try the latest andy-tracking again, but since it's not on openmoko anymore, I'll try the kernel from shr, that also includes that commit. See http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/ Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Time for press release published on w.om.c ?
we are on it. If you have specific criticism please vent away or constructive suggestions as well. PR was pretty busy getting corrections done all over the place so now they focus on getting the press stuff up to date. Olivier Berger wrote: Hi. I think www.openmoko.com deserves some updates maybe ? http://www.openmoko.com/press.html in particular... allright, slashdot is an authorized information source, but... My 2 cents, ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone (0.20 - alpha release) Elementary based mplayer frontend
Hi, I just installed Intone 0.24 and I have to say I am very very impressed. So far I've used pythm which compared to his is incredibly slow and constantly has problems with repeating, has very long pauses between the songs ect. Very very big thank you to you. I can finally normally listen to music on the FR : ). Keep on doing whatever it is you are doing. Yogiz On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 23:59:35 -0700 (PDT) c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Well, it took a lot longer than I thought - but finally - here's the alpha release of Intone - a mplayer frontend (for audio files - as of now) in C. ---snip ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] QtMoko = QtExtended on debian project
Congratulations... On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: Hi, i have put a small homepage where you can download my QtExtended debian based images and view my GIT tree. I call this project QtMoko - as it should be cute and usable phone for Freerunner. The project page is at: http://activationrecord.net/radekp/openmoko/qtmoko/ I hope you'll find it useful. I will continue to improve the images and homepage and the project will always be 100% free and coordinated with other QTE images out there. Cheers Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net PHP Developer Red Hat Certified Engineer Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone OGG Support
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 6:17 AM, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Was travelling yesterday - hence no reply. can you send the output of both mplayers playing the same m4a file? just to try to understand if it can be improved ;P Well - the same files were played using both mplayers. I'll send you a pvt message with a link to the m4a file I was using. And I realise - I was using this version mplayer_dev-SVN-r29155-4.1.2_armv4t.ipk. So probably not the most efficient one. Will post results with the -tremor-low version. It wasn't there 2 days back was it? Maybe i missed it. yes, they weren't there :) PS : Can you cook up a patch for the bitbake recipe for the mplayer version on FSO repo's ? Someone asked me to do that - but I didn't find any doc's on how to. ok, i'll do it, not today, nor until tuesday, i think :) (and i'd like to try to understand if it's possibile to improve) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
(qtmoko) Nothing?
Hello Radek, i have put a small homepage where you can download my QtExtended debian based images and view my GIT tree. I call this project QtMoko - as it should be cute and usable phone for Freerunner. Maybe I am taking things too simple: I got the jffs and the bin file from the download page, and flashed these to my freerunner using Neotool. Booting the new distro does not seem to do anything however. I see a black screen on the FR, with some backlight. At this moment it is there for 5 minutes already. The way to stop that, I am sure, is to take out the battery. Do I miss some magic in order to make it work? I am very curious to see what you have made! Paul -- Many individuals have, like uncut diamonds, shining qualities beneath a rough exterior. -Juvenal (poet c. 60-140) http://www.nlpagan.net MHC - Mandriva 2009.0, Ubuntu 8.10, EasyPeasy 1.1rc2 (Before printing this mail: consider the environment!) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO status?
AFAIK no funding from Openmoko but FSO is still going strong and they planned to release MS 5.5 at the end of this week (tomorrow?) if I'm not mistaken. On Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:56:31 +0200 David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.com wrote: Hello everybody I'd like to know what is the status of FSO after all the news at openmoko. Is Openmoko still founding FSO? I hope so. At least in my case, I only could make productive things with my FR using FSO or FSO based distros. Any official word about this? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: www.opkg.org - notification system
Thanks. Still one big beef I have with opkg.org is it's huge resolution. I do most of my browsing on a laptop with 1024x768 and it's a PITA to browse it. Anything that could be done with that? On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:46:16 +0200 Tobias Kündig tobias.kuen...@gmail.com wrote: Dear community, I finally found some time to develop a new feature for www.opkg.org. It's a simple notification system that sends you email notifications for particular updates on the site. For further information read the news posting [1] or just try it yourself: www.opkg.org Best regards, Tobias ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bluetooth wake up
I suspect you'd get the answer in the kernel mailing list. On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:17:21 +0200 Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com wrote: It may be a stupid question... but: Is some sort of wake up on bluetooth supported (e.g. on incoming obex transfer) ? Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [0M2008.12] qtopia theme
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster bernd.pruens...@gmail.com wrote: who made it [1] and where to get? [1] http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/2abc691f82a2b2ea05789b960fb5f6c4.png thx in advance you can find an intial theme release here: http://www.paultt.org/downloads/openmoko/index.html you can see updated screenshots on scap, by now ;P (and in the page above) follow the instructions in the README file: http://www.paultt.org/downloads/openmoko/qt_mokott_README you need the file qt_mokott_*.tar.gz the color scheme part is still on the go, so colors are not yet so cool ;P bya, and happy Easter, if it applies to you ;P PaulTT ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Improved PyFlash 0.3
Hi, Pander wrote: Onen wrote: * is it compatible with flashcards collections from KDE tools? [1] Not yet but if you can provide a bunch of Japanese flashcard collections I will look into making it compatible with those. I think it would be great to have only one format for the cards, for desktop and phone applications. * do you reuse the engine of another flashcards application, and put a new GUI on top of it, or is it all new code? No it is all new code written mainly by Noufal Ibrahim with improvements from ezuall and me. Would it make sense to reuse the engine of other project? For what I have understood, this kind of software (and Parley) implement algorithms to schedule the cards proposed to you. These aim at optimising your learning, by asking you more often what you don't know, and less what you have already acquired. If you don't go for reuse, do you plan to implement such features? Thanks, Onen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Arora web browser (Qt issue?)
For people using arora (in the past I heard of some debian users), may you check and report if you are able to reproduce this: *) launch arora *) press About Qt on the rightest menu (it's hidden but you can show it clicking on ) On my frerunner (gentoo/e-20090313/qt4.5.0/arora-0.5) the dialog is not showed and it's impossible to interact further and quit the application. Looking at qt sources I suspect an issue on devices with tiny resolution. This brings to me another question: how to force killing applications under e? Regards Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bluetooth wake up
2009/4/11 Yogiz yog...@gmail.com: I suspect you'd get the answer in the kernel mailing list. Thanks for the hint! I submitted my answer there. Sometimes ago I wrote some scripts to push messages generated from our server farm monitoring system to my Nokia via bluetooth obex push service. As obex-data-server works fine on my freerunner, I'd like to know if there is a way to do this without wasting batteries :) Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone lockup
Well, AFAIK, my rootfs is / . :) But perhaps you mean distro, in which case I have SHR-unstable. I guess I forgot to mention that earlier... Also note that this isn't happening at the _end_ of a track, it happens when I hit the previous or next track buttons while playing a track. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (qtmoko) Nothing?
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 16:17:49 +0200 Paul p...@nlpagan.net wrote: Hello Radek, i have put a small homepage where you can download my QtExtended debian based images and view my GIT tree. I call this project QtMoko - as it should be cute and usable phone for Freerunner. Maybe I am taking things too simple: I got the jffs and the bin file from the download page, and flashed these to my freerunner using Neotool. Booting the new distro does not seem to do anything however. I see a black screen on the FR, with some backlight. At this moment it is there for 5 minutes already. The way to stop that, I am sure, is to take out the battery. Do I miss some magic in order to make it work? I am very curious to see what you have made! Paul Hi Paul, I didn't test it myself yet, but since the bin is larger than 2MB, you need to either adjust your u-boot or use Qi as bootloader. Did you take this into account? Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Slashdotted
phone development means gta03 -- and that indeed stopped. it wrong, surely a lot of other people will get it wrong too. No, phone development doesn't mean GTA03. Openmoko can release a device which is not a successor to the GTA02. i never said, it has to be a successor to gta02. the only other phone in the pipeline had the name gta03 and its development has stopped. period. gta02 does not see any development, just support and fixes. I'm sure not everybody agrees with you that bug fixes or improvements to existing features is not development. Perhaps you could clarify what you think counts as development to an already released product (GTA02). this is merely hairsplitting (and, no offense, just because you think i am wrong does not mean you are right), but here goes: one or more of the following - newer/better hardware - improved functionality (f ex wrt standby time, power consumption) - different device i am sure, we can spend days on end with attempts to find a definition of development that everybody agrees to, but what purpose would it serve? i said it how i see it and so far no information has convinced me that i am wrong here. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO status?
cool :) 2009/4/11 Yogiz yog...@gmail.com: AFAIK no funding from Openmoko but FSO is still going strong and they planned to releaseoool MS 5.5 at the end of this week (tomorrow?) if I'm not mistaken. On Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:56:31 +0200 David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.com wrote: Hello everybody I'd like to know what is the status of FSO after all the news at openmoko. Is Openmoko still founding FSO? I hope so. At least in my case, I only could make productive things with my FR using FSO or FSO based distros. Any official word about this? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO status?
On Sat, 2009-04-11 at 20:05 +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: cool :) 2009/4/11 Yogiz yog...@gmail.com: AFAIK no funding from Openmoko but FSO is still going strong and they planned to releaseoool MS 5.5 at the end of this week (tomorrow?) if I'm not mistaken. There was supposed to be an Openmoko testing release of Friday. This is based on MS5.5. The MS5.5 branch will continue to be in flux for sometime. A few things have conspired against us and We're obviously not going to make Friday but we are still working on it. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (qtmoko) Nothing?
Hi Franky I didn't test it myself yet, but since the bin is larger than 2MB, you need to either adjust your u-boot or use Qi as bootloader. Did you take this into account? Nope. I did not have a clue. That explains a lot. Qi looks at the SD card first right? I could have a look at that again (first attempt was not getting me anywhere)... Paul -- Many individuals have, like uncut diamonds, shining qualities beneath a rough exterior. -Juvenal (poet c. 60-140) http://www.nlpagan.net MHC - Mandriva 2009.0, Ubuntu 8.10, EasyPeasy 1.1rc2 (Before printing this mail: consider the environment!) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re:(qtmoko) Nothing?
Paul wrote: Maybe I am taking things too simple: I got the jffs and the bin file from the download page, and flashed these to my freerunner using Neotool. Booting the new distro does not seem to do anything however. I see a black screen on the FR, with some backlight. At this moment it is there for 5 minutes already. The way to stop that, I am sure, is to take out the battery. Do I miss some magic in order to make it work? I am very curious to see what you have made! Hi Paul, if you are using uboot it can be that the kernel is too big. It's my plan to make smaller kernel. Right now you can use Qi to boot it or alter uboot environment to suport kernels 2MB - it's explained e.g. here: http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2359823 Hope this helps Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (qtmoko) Nothing?
Hello Radek, if you are using uboot it can be that the kernel is too big. It's my plan to make smaller kernel. Right now you can use Qi to boot it or alter uboot environment to suport kernels 2MB - it's explained e.g. here: I think I got it to life, using Qi. Only little problem now is: when I tap the phone dialer icon (far left), the system crashes with Application layer service unexpectedly terminated, and it drops out of graphics mode. Paul -- Many individuals have, like uncut diamonds, shining qualities beneath a rough exterior. -Juvenal (poet c. 60-140) http://www.nlpagan.net MHC - Mandriva 2009.0, Ubuntu 8.10, EasyPeasy 1.1rc2 (Before printing this mail: consider the environment!) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (qtmoko) Nothing?
I think I got it to life, using Qi. Nice :) Only little problem now is: when I tap the phone dialer icon (far left), the system crashes with Application layer service unexpectedly terminated, and it drops out of graphics mode. Paul Hmm not sure what this can be. It is possible to do some debugging as explained in txt on the download. I am using it now for 24 hours and havent hit this problem (but found some other - like it's impossible to enter password in email client because no virtual keyboard is shown. This is probably because of upgrade to Qt 4.5 and can be fixed). Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit is not finding current position
On 07.04.2009, at 09:23, Francesco de Virgilio wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christ van Willegen ha scritto: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Christ van Willegen cvwille...@gmail.com wrote: Any hint on this? What am I doing wrong? If you run Navit from the terminal, it may tell you... In my case, it seems that the libgps installed on my system is too new. I haven't figured out how to solve this yet, but I'll let you know if I find out. I got Navit to work doing the following - Drop to a shell prompt on the FreeRunner (or use ssh to connect) - cd /usr/lib - ln -s libgps.so.17 libgps.so.16 This makes Navit think that libgps.so.16 is installed. Note: This may work for Navit for now, but may break other programs. Pardon!? Yes it is hackish and ugly and potentially not stable. But there is just no way how it could break other apps that are correctly linked. And wrongly linked apps might work which they did not before. If someone has used this solution, could confirm me that TangoGPS continued to work? I'm trying this in my SHR-testing, but I don't want any breakage. Com on. People who don't understad what this command does should not use a developer phone or should not tinker with it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (qtmoko) Nothing?
Only little problem now is: when I tap the phone dialer icon (far left), the system crashes with Application layer service unexpectedly terminated, and it drops out of graphics mode. Hmm not sure what this can be. Right, this only happened at the first boot after install. After a reboot it works okay. So that's okay. On with playing... :-) Paul -- Many individuals have, like uncut diamonds, shining qualities beneath a rough exterior. -Juvenal (poet c. 60-140) http://www.nlpagan.net MHC - Mandriva 2009.0, Ubuntu 8.10, EasyPeasy 1.1rc2 (Before printing this mail: consider the environment!) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Camera module as back case (was Re: Slashdotted)
On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 11:41:57AM +0200, Lothar Behrens wrote: About the camera issue: I have read something about a small computer base case that has a jack or bus system ontop of it's case. That way it is extendable with cameras or what ever. I don't know where it was but it was cool. Why not think about a back case that includes a cam and using contacts in the inner housing to connect the cam to, say an I2C bus or even an USB hub (USB2)? But how will you get the image pixels across to the Neo? There has been some discussion about this on the hardware list, starting with the message Weird hardware mod ??? back in January. To sum it up: 1) USB. There are many USB webcams available, but the difficulty is finding one that works well on a USB 1.1 bus, because USB 2.0 is fast enough that the cameras can simply dump the image across the cable with little or no buffering in the camera. So most cameras won't have enough buffer space to hold a good still image, and for the same reason also don't have the buffer space needed for any of the good video compression codecs. 2) A generic image sensor interface with I2C for control and 8-bit parallel port for data transfer. Example camera chip: https://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=8668 The options: 2a) The Glamo has an unused camera interface, even with all the important pins connected to a resistor network, but the documentation is under NDA. 2b) Roll your own somehow. The SC32442B has lots of unused GPIO - e.g. most of the LCD interface - but the ones that appear to be connected to somewhere accessible are scattered all over the place in register space. rant index=1 It would have been a lot easier if the SC32442B camera interface pins hadn't been frittered away for GPIO assignments that could just as well have been served by the pins of the unused LCD interface instead. Even if you don't want to use them for a camera, the 13 of them are nicely lumped together in GPIO port J. They would have been fine for many projects. /rant rant index=2 Of the only two external DMA request pins, one is a dead end and the other one is connected to the GPS as a simple output. Again lots of other less valuable GPIO pins are available for such purposes. /rant -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Slashdotted
arne anka wrote: phone development means gta03 -- and that indeed stopped. it wrong, surely a lot of other people will get it wrong too. No, phone development doesn't mean GTA03. Openmoko can release a device which is not a successor to the GTA02. i never said, it has to be a successor to gta02. the only other phone in the pipeline had the name gta03 and its development has stopped. period. There other phones in the pipeline Three variants of GTA02, 2 entirely new concepts aimed at different target markets. Not smart phones, but phones nontheless. I can detail these, each of which is in a different stage of the product development pipeline, each has various pre conditions that need to be met before they can proceed to the next stage of development, but see my comments below about the argument clinic. gta02 does not see any development, just support and fixes. I'm sure not everybody agrees with you that bug fixes or improvements to existing features is not development. Perhaps you could clarify what you think counts as development to an already released product (GTA02). this is merely hairsplitting (and, no offense, just because you think i am wrong does not mean you are right), but here goes: one or more of the following - newer/better hardware See above. - improved functionality (f ex wrt standby time, power consumption) I believe that OM2009 slated for release in the June time frame has a good chance of showing improved functionality. One Issue with OM2009 ( the paroli work) was that it catered for differences between the GTA02 and GTA03. The design was targeted at GTA03 and utilized certain features ( like a hardware volume button) that were not present on GTA02. With the demise of GTA03 the design becomes more focused and I would assume more easy to execute and test. - different device See above i am sure, we can spend days on end with attempts to find a definition of development that everybody agrees to, but what purpose would it serve? i said it how i see it and so far no information has convinced me that i am wrong here. why define terms before an Argument? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y So to answer your question. Defining development up front (i am sure, we can spend days on end with attempts to find a definition of development that everybody agrees to, but what purpose would it serve?) Serves a very important purpose. It sets the conditions under which parties would admit they were wrong or that their beliefs were falsified. It forms the basis of having a rational debate. everything else is just naysaying. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit is not finding current position
On Sat, 2009-04-11 at 21:27 +0100, Tilman Baumann wrote: Com on. People who don't understad what this command does should not use a developer phone or should not tinker with it. I could argue otherwise. They can always learn what the commands do as they start to need them. Maybe their point in grabbing this phone was so they could learn linux commands (a natural consequence of tinkering) or maybe they really like the idea of having source. Everyone has to start somewhere, and I think it's good that he's willing to learn. Using this phone is like linux about 10 years ago. Lots of shit doesn't work great out of the box but improvements happen so fast one always wants to stay close to bleeding edge everything. Tinkering is how one learns and what makes this phone fun (for me anyway). In fact, tinkering is what separates most of us from our fellow proprietary software users. He may not be a power user yet, but that comes in time. Only other thing I have to say, don't be afraid to break anything software: a change can almost always be undone or lead you to fix the problem, and worse case scenario just re-flash the image. Except maybe those fluid commands for flashing the modem firmware, be more careful with those. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[debian] problems with debian and u-boot
hi, i installed debian today, but can't get it to boot. i ran the 'configure-uboot' script from the debian wiki while the phone was booted to NAND flash (press and hold power, then immediately press and hold aux), then powered down the phone there were no errors reported after the script complete, and i've tried flashing the 'quiet' script and the plain verbose script a couple of times each now, when i try to start it, either by pressing the power button alone, or going through the nand menu, i get an error about 'wrong format' of a partition. i'm assuming this is to do with the fat/ext issue for the kernel, but as i followed the instructions to use an ext partition, i'm not sure what's wrong. it feels like i'm missing something silly - i got this working last year any help appreciated cheers ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QT Moko] MP3 support
Hey, is libmad compiled into qt moko? If not, is there another way to get mp3 support without compiling, perhaps as a deb? A quick browse of the git repo didn't show any libmad in /src/module_media.pri so i'm assuming qtmoko can't play mp3s. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone (0.20 - alpha release) Elementary based mplayer frontend
Hi, @Yogiz - Thank you for your kind words. I was mostly scratching my own itch ;-) and it's nice to know that intone finds a place on your FR. @ all - I'm soon going to release a new version that (to my satisfaction at least) will provide accurate seek position __and__ prevent the sometimes occurring lock ups at the end of a song. I'm also looking for some dbus help. Actually, I think I'll post another thread on the help I need :-) There are 2 mysterious bugs remaining :- 1. an only black screen on running Intone on OM 2008.12 2. hang on selecting next / prev when playing a song Are you facing these problems? Do let me know whatever you notice if you face these. Particularly on OM 2008.12. Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-%280.20---alpha-release%29-Elementary-based-mplayer-frontend-tp2587826p2623103.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
