[SHR-U] opkg upgrade results in no GSM again :(

2009-08-22 Thread Vikas Saurabh
Hi, Last night I did opkg upgrade and since then I am just getting 'No Service' in grey on the signal strength meter. Attached is a snip from my frameworkd.log[1] with log_level=DEBUG for ogsmd. Although, I have no idea about AT commands, the only thing that looks suspicious in the log is 'AT+CO

Re: High pitch voice when the screen is in horizontal mode

2009-08-22 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
> I'm using OM2009, but I've noticed the same on OM2008.x > > Running xrandr -o 3 or xrandr -o 1 makes the screen rotate to > horizontal mode. At the same time FR (the screen, glamo, something) > starts to give me a very high pitch voice. It's loud enough to be > heard in a moving car, 0.5m away so

Re: How does well does this community work?

2009-08-22 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
kind of off-topic but also check this as your sister-project: http://www.sahkoautot.fi/eng -> A community took an Corolla and are converting it to an electric car. The plan is to release all specs to the public so anyone could do it. The content of the site is already cc-by-sa. r -- | risto h. k

Re: Hi

2009-08-22 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
Roland, > Seeing that none of the distro's really do (seeing that they are > produced by hackers who are mostly hacking for their own enjoyment > it's not really surprising and you can't really blame the teams) I would agree, but what's your solution? The one idea I have is that maybe stabl

Re: Hi

2009-08-22 Thread levy santanna
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 17:26, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > Closer? In sense "less open"? I wouldn't say that - for me it looks > like SHR is the most community based (and open) distro out here... > Yes, less open. How this distro development is done, today? regards, Levy. ___

Re: How does well does this community work?

2009-08-22 Thread Chris Samuel
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 03:27:20 am Roland Whitehead wrote: > I am working with the 40 Fires Foundation [http://www.40fires.org] to > try to build a framework for the development of open source hardware. > You might have heard that the first project is the "hyrban" car - a > car powered by a hyd

Re: How does well does this community work?

2009-08-22 Thread Vasco Névoa
That's a though question, especially due to the differences between a car and a phone. :) When it comes to pure Community building, IMHO the leaders seem to be Ubuntu; so you should probably talk to Jono Bacon or read his book. ;) Regarding the Openmoko community, I think it works better now that

Re: Android Donut on FreeRunner (was Re: Kernel Mode-Setting (KMS) on Neo FreeRunner + Debian)

2009-08-22 Thread Chris Samuel
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 09:16:11 am Christopher Friedt wrote: > I'm definitely looking into getting in touch with Michael Trimarchi. Forgot to mention, he has been active on the Koolu android-freerunner list: http://android.koolu.org/listinfo.cgi/android-freerunner-koolu.org cheers, Chris -- Chr

Re: Android Donut on FreeRunner (was Re: Kernel Mode-Setting (KMS) on Neo FreeRunner + Debian)

2009-08-22 Thread Chris Samuel
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 09:16:11 am Christopher Friedt wrote: > I'm definitely looking into getting in touch with Michael Trimarchi. > I'm interested to see if he can get some of the libglamo / glamo-dri > code to fit in with Android's GL implimentation. He has two public git trees which seem to cont

Re: Android Donut on FreeRunner (was Re: Kernel Mode-Setting (KMS) on Neo FreeRunner + Debian)

2009-08-22 Thread Christopher Friedt
I'm definitely looking into getting in touch with Michael Trimarchi. I'm interested to see if he can get some of the libglamo / glamo-dri code to fit in with Android's GL implimentation. If that's the case, then the FreeRunner graphics might actually speed up a bit (not to mention how nice it would

Re: [ALL] openbmap logger and quit (power, accidental close, etc...)

2009-08-22 Thread Onen
Hi Rui, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 12:00:17PM +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: >> On 8/22/09, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: >>> Yesterday night I did about 350 Km of scanning, and the phone was >>> plugged to an USB car charger I bought (from TuxBrain). Unfortun

Re: Hi

2009-08-22 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/22/09, levy santanna wrote: > On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 07:10, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak > wrote: > >> Few arguments for SHR over Om2009: more people working on it, develops >> > > Closer development ... is another characteristic of SHR > > regards, > Levy. > Closer? In sense "less open"? I woul

Re: Hi

2009-08-22 Thread levy santanna
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 07:10, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > Few arguments for SHR over Om2009: more people working on it, develops > Closer development ... is another characteristic of SHR regards, Levy. ___ Openmoko community mailing list communit

Re: [SHR testing] intone requires different e17 lib name

2009-08-22 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/22/09, Marcel wrote: > Am Samstag, den 22.08.2009, 20:48 +0200 schrieb Sebastian Krzyszkowiak: >> On 8/22/09, Marcel wrote: >> > G'evening, >> > >> > I'm fiddling with SHR (some way to get paroli on it? >.<) and found that >> > the opkg.org intone 0.66 package is linked against libe*-ver-svn

Re: [SHR testing] intone requires different e17 lib name

2009-08-22 Thread Marcel
Am Samstag, den 22.08.2009, 20:48 +0200 schrieb Sebastian Krzyszkowiak: > On 8/22/09, Marcel wrote: > > G'evening, > > > > I'm fiddling with SHR (some way to get paroli on it? >.<) and found that > > the opkg.org intone 0.66 package is linked against libe*-ver-svn-02.so.0 > > sonames but SHR testi

Re: [SHR testing] intone requires different e17 lib name

2009-08-22 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/22/09, Marcel wrote: > G'evening, > > I'm fiddling with SHR (some way to get paroli on it? >.<) and found that > the opkg.org intone 0.66 package is linked against libe*-ver-svn-02.so.0 > sonames but SHR testing contains libe*-ver-pre-01.so.0 libs. Could you > do another special SHR testing b

[SHR testing] intone requires different e17 lib name

2009-08-22 Thread Marcel
G'evening, I'm fiddling with SHR (some way to get paroli on it? >.<) and found that the opkg.org intone 0.66 package is linked against libe*-ver-svn-02.so.0 sonames but SHR testing contains libe*-ver-pre-01.so.0 libs. Could you do another special SHR testing build? (Symlinking all of them to -svn-

Re: How does well does this community work?

2009-08-22 Thread rixed
> If you had the chance to > build a community for the development of the Openmoko (hardware as > well as software) what would you do and why? My 2 cents : I would open a mailing list _or_ a web forum but not both to avoid scattering people accross various medias. Also, maybe we should look f

Re: Screen in FR goes black and white after resume from suspend

2009-08-22 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
abatrour writes: > > RANJAN-3 wrote: > > > > The screen in my FR goes B/W with weird lines after it resumes from > > suspend.Got to know it is WSOD bug (or sometimes resumes in grey scale > > mode) > > .Well temporarily I can change the FR not to suspend but I have to do so > > after every reboot.

How does well does this community work?

2009-08-22 Thread Roland Whitehead
I am working with the 40 Fires Foundation [http://www.40fires.org] to try to build a framework for the development of open source hardware. You might have heard that the first project is the "hyrban" car - a car powered by a hydrogen fuel cell - the prototype of which was revealed by Rivers

Re: Hi

2009-08-22 Thread Roland Whitehead
I would recommend that you choose which ever distro keeps their "how to make your Neo work as a phone for most of the time using this distro as well as running other standard services reliably" wiki page up to date and by up to date I mean referring to which ever is the most useable bootloa

Re: [All] Status of the OM community

2009-08-22 Thread Paul Fertser
Marko Knöbl writes: >> archive or delete outdated >> information, > > Some time ago I thought about this too. However this turned out to be > problematic for me: Personally I often have problems to tell whether a > page is up-to-date or not because I don't have enough knowledge in > this topic. A

Re: [All] Status of the OM community

2009-08-22 Thread Marko Knöbl
> > My suggestion is to start with the cleanup of wiki: separate HW and > SW, I have already tried to do this with "Getting Started with your Neo 1973/Neo FreeRunner". The page "Getting Started with your Neo FreeRunner" is obsolete now. Now we have several manuals on the wiki, which are explicitly

Re: [All] Status of the OM community

2009-08-22 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Wolfgang Spraul wrote: > Risto, > >> My wish also would be that the (former) OM employees still around >> could rewrite/update the parts that concern OM the company in the >> wiki. > > Can you point me to some parts you would like to see updated? > I'm not with the

Re: [da...@tuxbrain.com: Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps]

2009-08-22 Thread Joao Pinto
Hello, I am the apt-portal main developer and I hope I can help extending it to support your repository. About the recently reported error when starting the web server, please make sure you use the cherrypy version provided at getdeb, check : http://wiki.getdeb.net/apt-portal/Download The cherryp

Re: [all / linux] neo as gps unit?

2009-08-22 Thread Al Johnson
On Saturday 22 August 2009, Stroller wrote: > On 21 Aug 2009, at 16:15, Al Johnson wrote: > > On Friday 21 August 2009, Olivier Migeot wrote: > >> On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Helge > >> > >> Hafting wrote: > >>> Could that be the default configuration? > >> > >> That would also listen on ppp0.

Re: [All] Status of the OM community

2009-08-22 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
Risto, > My wish also would be that the (former) OM employees still around > could rewrite/update the parts that concern OM the company in the > wiki. Can you point me to some parts you would like to see updated? I'm not with the company anymore for 2 months, but maybe there are still some things

Re: Getting location info from cell tower

2009-08-22 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/22/09, c_c wrote: > > Hi, > > Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: >> >> Except cell broadcast channel there is also something like "Cell info" >> (it was exposed in settings in my Nokia and Motorola phones), and it >> in some networks provide info about location and doesn't have such >> limitation

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-22 Thread Markus T�rnqvist
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 01:17:57AM +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: >here is the error log >mut...@iluvatar:~/apt-portal$ ./apt-portal.py playdeb >/var/lib/python-support/python2.6/sqlalchemy/util.py:7: >DeprecationWarning: the sets module is deprecated > import inspect, itertools, new,

Re: Getting location info from cell tower

2009-08-22 Thread c_c
Hi, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > > Except cell broadcast channel there is also something like "Cell info" > (it was exposed in settings in my Nokia and Motorola phones), and it > in some networks provide info about location and doesn't have such > limitation as cell broadcasting. > > Is it p

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-22 Thread Markus T�rnqvist
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 12:44:35PM +0200, Martin Jansa wrote: >On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 04:45:00AM -0500, KaZeR wrote: >> One problem is that distro packaged apps sometimes lag way behind bleeding >> edge. >> e.g. : navit in SHR : r2309, navit via navit's feed : r2511 : that's quite a >> lot. >I u

Re: Hi

2009-08-22 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
>> On 8/22/09, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: >> (and I know, others will recommend you other distros like SHR or >> Debian - but I was first :) On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > Few arguments for SHR over Om2009: more people working on it, develops > faster, most of decisi

Re: [ALL] openbmap logger and quit (power, accidental close, etc...)

2009-08-22 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 12:00:17PM +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > On 8/22/09, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Yesterday night I did about 350 Km of scanning, and the phone was > > plugged to an USB car charger I bought (from TuxBrain). Unfortunately, > > even though the phon

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-22 Thread List for Openmoko community discussion
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 11:50:53AM +0200, Martin Jansa wrote: > >3) opkg/deb or manuall installation instructions only in first phase >when its unknown package from unknown developer :) > >4) then community-editable list of distributions where it works/doesn't >work. > >5) same list with sign if it

Re: Getting location info from cell tower

2009-08-22 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/22/09, c_c wrote: > > Hi, > > Al Johnson wrote: >> >> On Friday 21 August 2009, c_c wrote: >> Have you tried unregistering then reregistering, or >> shutting down then restarting the GSM module? >> > Both do the trick. It seems as if this service is really optimised. Data > is sent only on

Re: Hi

2009-08-22 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/22/09, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > Hi Soumik! > > Depends on what you want to work on, but if you have a freerunner, my > suggestion is to install om2009 unstable there (see > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009 ) and contribute to Paroli for a > start (see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Paroli

Re: [ALL] openbmap logger and quit (power, accidental close, etc...)

2009-08-22 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
I'd guess that a) your charger didn't supply 500mA, maybe only 100mA (-> check http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Forcing_fast_charge_mode#OM2009_.26_Freerunner ) b) you can manually edit the files and add the missing XML tags to fix the broken files - yes, it's split in smaller files so at most you los

Re: [ALL] openbmap logger and quit (power, accidental close, etc...)

2009-08-22 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/22/09, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > Hi, > > Yesterday night I did about 350 Km of scanning, and the phone was > plugged to an USB car charger I bought (from TuxBrain). Unfortunately, > even though the phone was in charging mode, it seems that while using > the GPS is wastes more battery t

Re: Bugfix for #1024 (gsm modem re-camping) done

2009-08-22 Thread Fox Mulder
Hi, to be honest i just used the same place that Dieter Spaar used in his fix from [1]. But one problem i see with moving the cap directly beneath the existing one is the height. I used a 0805 10µF capacitor which could fit over the existing resistors but then there is not much space left between

[ALL] openbmap logger and quit (power, accidental close, etc...)

2009-08-22 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Hi, Yesterday night I did about 350 Km of scanning, and the phone was plugged to an USB car charger I bought (from TuxBrain). Unfortunately, even though the phone was in charging mode, it seems that while using the GPS is wastes more battery than the charger can give it, so even though it lasted l

[All] Status of the OM community

2009-08-22 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Hi there! After OM announced the discontinuation of the OM software development, there was this discussion about starting a foundation to support the community. What's the status? Any action taken? I feel like suffering from the unorganized community: the wiki is a mess, apps around are outdated

Re: First contact with the community

2009-08-22 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Hi there! Nice to hear and see new people entering the community! And it's great that you'll get your unit soon - it just makes more sense to devel with the unit, not with qemu as you can use the touchscreen, you feel the speed, accelerometers, everything. But it all depends on what do you want

First contact with the community

2009-08-22 Thread nacer
Hi all, I am new to this mailing list. I am Nacer ADAMOU from Cameroon (central Africa) and python developer (part of my daily job of linux system and network engineer). I am interesting in the openmoko for more than six months (qemu simulator, I don't have a real freerunner) and decided to be

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-22 Thread George Brooke
On Saturday 22 August 2009 00:17:57 David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: > Partial success, after installing Jaunty, > the import proccess apt2db goes ok and I have the example repo in a sqlite > but the web server doesn't boot up > here is the error log > mut...@iluvatar:~/apt-portal$ ./apt-portal.

Re: Bugfix for #1024 (gsm modem re-camping) done

2009-08-22 Thread Ed Kapitein
Hi Rainer, Thanks for sharing your work with us. Why did you put the capacitor on the right hand side and extended it with the yellow wire? The wire might pick up a signal and cause other trouble. There seems to be room to fit the extra capacitor on the left hand side, between the two black IC's.

Re: Hi

2009-08-22 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Hi Soumik! Depends on what you want to work on, but if you have a freerunner, my suggestion is to install om2009 unstable there (see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009 ) and contribute to Paroli for a start (see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Paroli ). That'd be very beneficial for many and you'd

Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-22 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 2:17 AM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: > Partial success, after installing Jaunty, > the import proccess apt2db goes ok and I have the example repo in a sqlite > but the web server doesn't boot up > here is the error log I forwarded the error to guys/devels at #getdeb

Re: Hi

2009-08-22 Thread Michal Brzozowski
Hi, Most people just use their favorite technology. There is a c++ & qt camp, python & elementary, etc. The phone logic backend uses python and vala, the lower level c and c++. Since the phone is just like a linux box, you can use any technologies you want, such as java, ocaml, mono (theoretically