Re: fatfingershell V0.2

2009-10-28 Thread Treviño
c_c wrote: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Would be possible keeping the same system but allowing an usage in 480x640 mode? OT - but - what hardware are you talking about? ;-) Sorry I used a wrong term... With system I didn't meant another hardware, just the same software used in a

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

2009-10-28 Thread rixed
-[ Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 04:42:21PM +1100, Carsten Haitzler ] but.. if i were smart.. i'd not develop apps for the freerunner. it's a dead product. It might be dead, but as there is no other free phone I have no choice but to use this one. I can live without fancy graphics anyway (although I

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

2009-10-28 Thread DJDAS
ri...@happyleptic.org wrote: The problem is : on the freerunner we merely need something to display some simple widgets, scroll the screen smoothly (because on a small display you always need to scroll) and be reactive to user finger pressures. If E, because of an ambitious design, is unable

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness [ot]

2009-10-28 Thread DJDAS
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: with linux i'm not lumping in uclinux, elks, etc. as they do come under different names :) notice.. i included desktop... and at least i'd hope to imply that would be the desktop he speaks of... ie how great compiz is and so much better than e17. :)

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

2009-10-28 Thread Petr Vanek
As an important but overlooked side effect, the more capable the graphics toolkit is and the more bloated and unfriendly the resulting end user interface will be. While we were at replacing the original gnome mobile desktop, I would have liked to start from a minimalist but inovative toolkit more

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

2009-10-28 Thread DJDAS
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: well.. you're telling the one that wrote the graphics code, that has read the glamo hw docs, has worked on it long before freerunner was on sale, who has written graphics code for many platforms, manye cpus of many varying levesl of speed (from 7mhz 68k

Insisting on metaphors that exploit the device's weaknesses (Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness)

2009-10-28 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
The problem is : on the freerunner we merely need something to display some simple widgets, scroll the screen smoothly (because on a small display you always need to scroll) Why do all of you insist on using scrolling as the only metaphor to present excerpts of large content? Given the physical

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

2009-10-28 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
DJDAS a écrit : ri...@happyleptic.org wrote: The problem is : on the freerunner we merely need something to display some simple widgets, scroll the screen smoothly (because on a small display you always need to scroll) and be reactive to user finger pressures. If E, because of an ambitious

Re: fatfingershell V0.2

2009-10-28 Thread rixed
-[ Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 04:37:15PM -0300, Rafael Ignacio Zurita ] there is a new version of fatfingershell (0.2). Trying it on Hackable1, I got : No se pudo iniciar el modo grafico No video mode large enough for 640x480 Apparently it rely on SDL being able to open a 640x480 fullscreen

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

2009-10-28 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:09:36 +0100 Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz said: As an important but overlooked side effect, the more capable the graphics toolkit is and the more bloated and unfriendly the resulting end user interface will be. While we were at replacing the original gnome mobile

Re: Insisting on metaphors that exploit the device's weaknesses (Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness)

2009-10-28 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:27:03 +0200 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de said: The problem is : on the freerunner we merely need something to display some simple widgets, scroll the screen smoothly (because on a small display you always need to scroll) Why do all of you insist on

Re: Insisting on metaphors that exploit the device's weaknesses (Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness)

2009-10-28 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de wrote: The problem is : on the freerunner we merely need something to display some simple widgets, scroll the screen smoothly (because on a small display you always need to scroll) Why do all of you insist on using

Re: Insisting on metaphors that exploit the device's weaknesses (Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness)

2009-10-28 Thread rixed
-[ Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:27:03AM +0200, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer ] [scrolling] There are other metaphors available that would fit the device's strengths much better. What about paging? Reading an ebook or looking a webpage or a map is better with scrolling I guess. Apart from that, you

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

2009-10-28 Thread DJDAS
Xavier Cremaschi wrote: DJDAS a écrit : ri...@happyleptic.org wrote: The problem is : on the freerunner we merely need something to display some simple widgets, scroll the screen smoothly (because on a small display you always need to scroll) and be reactive to user finger

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

2009-10-28 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
DJDAS a écrit : Sorry but which part of from the user's point of view doing complicated calculations that result in a slower display is useless is not clear? I don't care E optimizations and beautiful algorithms if I simply CANNOT USE THEM or use them at the price of speediness and

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

2009-10-28 Thread DJDAS
Xavier Cremaschi wrote: No. From the user point of view, a recipe : - take SHR or Om2009 - put a simple theme instead of the default one - notice it's very fast Where is the part with the user who cannot use this or that ? That as Raster correctly said, default is something that

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

2009-10-28 Thread Davide Scaini
This discussion is _very very_ interesting! And for sure we'll have progress... quote: if you have something concrete to offer rather than being rude, insulting and simply rubbishing things you know little about, then contribute. I will ;) please give me and my staff a couple of months... OK,

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

2009-10-28 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:15:46 +0100 Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com said: This discussion is _very very_ interesting! And for sure we'll have progress... quote: if you have something concrete to offer rather than being rude, insulting and simply rubbishing things you know little about,

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

2009-10-28 Thread Cedric BAIL
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:00 AM, DJDAS dj...@djdas.net wrote: Xavier Cremaschi wrote: DJDAS a écrit : ri...@happyleptic.org wrote: The problem is : on the freerunner we merely need something to display some simple widgets, scroll the screen smoothly (because on a small display you always

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

2009-10-28 Thread DJDAS
Cedric BAIL wrote: Man, what didn't you understand in: YOU SHOULD WRITE A THEME THAT DON'T USE THAT MUCH FANCY STUFF ? ? The EFL are fast and optimised, but you should adapt the theme to what you ask. So write a theme that look like QtMoko and I bet you will have at least the same speed (My

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

2009-10-28 Thread rixed
-[ Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:38:22AM +0100, DJDAS ] Yes I'm rude because my approach is to solve the problems not shutting up people saying you have a shi++y hardware so don't complain and this alters my patience (...) and I'll look for everything doable to make this device (and if ever

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

2009-10-28 Thread Cedric BAIL
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:38 AM, DJDAS dj...@djdas.net wrote: Cedric BAIL wrote: Man, what didn't you understand in: YOU SHOULD WRITE A THEME THAT DON'T USE THAT MUCH FANCY STUFF ? ? The EFL are fast and optimised, but you should adapt the theme to what you ask. So write a theme that look

Re: [QtMoko] [Debian] Which MicroSDHC card should I buy to install Debian onto?

2009-10-28 Thread arne anka
I have tried two cards on FR: Kingston C4 8 GB Kingston SDC4/8GB 07 I don't recommend this one. hadn't much kuck with kingston either. i use an 8g sandisk, listed in the wiki. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

[SHR] building packages

2009-10-28 Thread Davide Scaini
Hi guys, i would like to build some packages for shr that i feel i miss (like gnuplot or so... and maybe do some stupid interface, but not in the immediate future). Where do i start? I tried to find a source on the openmoko wiki, but with no sure answers... I'm sure you can give me a simple

Re: New Release of xminimokostatus (Part of Minimoko)

2009-10-28 Thread ajvogel
matzehuber wrote: i leaved just a new version of xminimokostatus. Improvements: now fully using dbus: - it doen't need external programs for getting status. - signal strenth and provider is now read from dbus-signals, no active poll == http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Minimoko

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

2009-10-28 Thread DJDAS
Cedric BAIL wrote: So either you have something like QtMoko without fancy stuff, and it will be faster, or you have some fancy effect, but slower fps. That's it. You can cry, you can yell, it will not be possible to do something more than that. Yes, it is frustrating, but the world is like

Re: New Release of xminimokostatus (Part of Minimoko)

2009-10-28 Thread Matthias Huber
ajvogel schrieb: matzehuber wrote: Nice work, thank you. I`ve been trying to get openbox to boot on the freerunner (shr-u). How does your Xsession look like? My .Xsession is: exec /usr/bin/openbox-session but the Xsession in /etc/X11 is the standard from shr, wich tests

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

2009-10-28 Thread Davide Scaini
DJDAS i share some thoughts with you ideed... but: this is a community, why don't you share your work? Sincerely, I'm interested in what works as an end user and as you already said. I'm not involved in this competition, and i just want to get out the most from this discussion to have a working

Re: [SHR] building packages

2009-10-28 Thread Al Johnson
On Wednesday 28 October 2009, Davide Scaini wrote: Hi guys, i would like to build some packages for shr that i feel i miss (like gnuplot or so... and maybe do some stupid interface, but not in the immediate future). Where do i start? I tried to find a source on the openmoko wiki, but with

Re: [SHR] building packages

2009-10-28 Thread Thomas Zimmermann
Am Mittwoch 28 Oktober 2009 12:10:39 schrieb Davide Scaini: Hi guys, i would like to build some packages for shr that i feel i miss (like gnuplot or so... and maybe do some stupid interface, but not in the immediate future). Where do i start? I tried to find a source on the openmoko wiki,

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

2009-10-28 Thread DJDAS
Davide Scaini wrote: DJDAS i share some thoughts with you ideed... but: this is a community, why don't you share your work? Simply because ATM our work (it's not ONLY mine but we are a team of about 10 people) it's not more than a simple prototype, we are hardly working but obviously in our

[hard] Need advices

2009-10-28 Thread Thomas HOCEDEZ
Hi everyone, I just tried to #1024fix buzzfix an A6. When testing, the mic seemed to be cut, so I removed the cap, but the mic still won't work (I can't hear anything on the other phone). Does anybody have already seen something like that ? What Could be wrong ? Do you think removing

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

2009-10-28 Thread Marcel
Finally came round to want to try this... :) Am Dienstag, den 27.10.2009, 02:21 +0300 schrieb Paul Fertser: Marcel tan...@googlemail.com writes: I tried to got to qvga for graphics performance testing about a week ago. This is needed (tested on SHR's 2.6.29-rc3): echo qvga-normal

Re: New Release of xminimokostatus (Part of Minimoko)

2009-10-28 Thread ajvogel
matzehuber wrote: My .Xsession is: exec /usr/bin/openbox-session but the Xsession in /etc/X11 is the standard from shr, wich tests .Xsession as replacement file for any windowmanager (ie illume) the rest is done in /etc/xdg/openbox/autostart.sh (modified for not using this

Re: [SHR] building packages

2009-10-28 Thread Davide Scaini
Wow... it SEEMS simple ;-) thanks. but, as you said, the build procedure will change... so it's better to wait... how can i get informed *when* this will happen? d ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: FOSDEM2010

2009-10-28 Thread Julien Cassignol
Hey there, On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Pieter Colpaert freep...@gmail.com wrote: Dear list, Saturday 6 and Sunday 7 February 2010 there is another FOSDEM. We (openmoko-community) haven't been to FOSDEM lately (correct me if I'm wrong) and that got to change. What about having our own

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

2009-10-28 Thread Davide Scaini
ha ha ok, i'll wait. But please, share ;-) ciao d On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 12:51 PM, DJDAS dj...@djdas.net wrote: Davide Scaini wrote: DJDAS i share some thoughts with you ideed... but: this is a community, why don't you share your work? Simply because ATM our work (it's not ONLY mine but

Re: FOSDEM2010

2009-10-28 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
Ok mail to fosdem written and our names added to wiki, I would like to have there a OM-showroom brain storming and a presentation/workshop on how to connect FR to other ultra portable devices what to do once conected :) David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable

Re: [SHR] building packages

2009-10-28 Thread Matthias Huber
Al Johnson schrieb: On Wednesday 28 October 2009, Davide Scaini wrote: Hi guys, i would like to build some packages for shr that i feel i miss (like gnuplot or so... and maybe do some stupid interface, but not in the immediate future). Where do i start? I tried to find a source on the

Re: #1024-rework service available

2009-10-28 Thread Davide Scaini
Hi Michael, i'm also interested in doing teh rework on my own, but on this page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/1024 and related links there are only few images... so can you please post yours when your work is done? thanks d (if you want/can you can contact me directly) On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at

Re: [SHR] building packages

2009-10-28 Thread Davide Scaini
great! d (i'm not trying this now, for sure next week, i'm moving. I'm definitely interested in build some packages for shr and give a hand... and maybe learn some stuff about etk for simple apps) On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Matthias Huber matthias.hu...@wollishausen.de wrote: Al

Re: FOSDEM2010

2009-10-28 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Mittwoch, den 28.10.2009, 12:58 +0100 schrieb Julien Cassignol: Hey there, Bearstech (through me and others) would like to be there to talk about hackable:1 and our forthcoming initiative about open hardware. Excellent. Plus, I'd also like to be there to talk a bit about SHR/FSO, as well

Re: New Release of xminimokostatus (Part of Minimoko)

2009-10-28 Thread Matthias Huber
ajvogel schrieb: matzehuber wrote: My .Xsession is: exec /usr/bin/openbox-session but the Xsession in /etc/X11 is the standard from shr, wich tests .Xsession as replacement file for any windowmanager (ie illume) the rest is done in /etc/xdg/openbox/autostart.sh (modified for not using

Re: FOSDEM2010

2009-10-28 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
Please Julien add you and you and others to the wiki page :) Nikolaus, Ghislain you too :) Let me make an special recount , Nickolaus(Golden Delicious Computers, Germany), Julien(Bearstech, France) Wim, (kd85,Belgium) I suppose he wants to come is his own country :P Ghislain(openmobile,

Re: FOSDEM2010

2009-10-28 Thread rixed
our forthcoming initiative about open hardware. Come one, share with us. We promise to keep it secret. :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: FOSDEM2010

2009-10-28 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 28.10.2009 um 13:22 schrieb David Reyes Samblas Martinez: Please Julien add you and you and others to the wiki page :) Nikolaus, Ghislain you too :) Done just before I received your mail. Let me make an special recount , Nickolaus(Golden Delicious Computers, Germany),

Re: FOSDEM2010

2009-10-28 Thread Wim Vandeputte Mailing list only
hey On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 01:22:10PM +0100, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: Let me make an special recount , Nickolaus(Golden Delicious Computers, Germany), Julien(Bearstech, France) Wim, (kd85,Belgium) I suppose he wants to come is his own country :P Ghislain(openmobile,

Re: [hard] Need advices

2009-10-28 Thread Cameron Frazier
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Thomas HOCEDEZ thomas.hoce...@free.fr wrote: Hi everyone, I just tried to #1024fix buzzfix an A6. When testing, the mic seemed to be cut, so I removed the cap, but the mic still won't work (I can't hear anything on the other phone). Does anybody have

Re: [hard] Need advices

2009-10-28 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 28.10.2009 um 12:25 schrieb Thomas HOCEDEZ: Hi everyone, I just tried to #1024fix buzzfix an A6. When testing, the mic seemed to be cut, so I removed the cap, but the mic still won't work (I can't hear anything on the other phone). Does anybody have already seen something like that ?

Re: Insisting on metaphors that exploit the device's weaknesses (Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness)

2009-10-28 Thread pike
Hi [scrolling] There are other metaphors available that would fit the device's strengths much better. What about paging? +1 for paging. mind you, I dont need a button for paging, a gesture could do it. which makes it feel very much like scrolling again, but then more solid. $2c, *-pike

Re: fatfingershell V0.2

2009-10-28 Thread Rafael Ignacio Zurita
Hello Marco, --- On Tue, 10/27/09, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) m...@3v1n0.net wrote: Il giorno mar, 27/10/2009 alle 16.37 -0300, Rafael Ignacio Zurita ha scritto: Hello people,    there is a new version of fatfingershell (0.2).     It is a virtual terminal for Openmoko mobile phones, with a

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

2009-10-28 Thread Ken Young
DJDAS dj...@djdas.net wrote: [...] I am sure people trying the smoothness and responsiveness of Illume at 240x320 would never complain of a lower resolution! Furthermore I don't understand why a lower resolution (and in this I agree with you people are strange ;) ) would become in an

Re: [hard] Need advices

2009-10-28 Thread Thomas HOCEDEZ
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller a écrit : During our professional buzz-rework initiative we had approx. 3 devices where the mic was dead after rework. Just removing all components and resoldering (new) ones did help in all cases. So I don't know exactly what the reason was (maybe no contact

Re: fatfingershell V0.2

2009-10-28 Thread Rafael Ignacio Zurita
Hello, --- On Tue, 10/27/09, Łukasz Pankowski lukp...@o2.pl wrote: Rafael Ignacio Zurita rizur...@yahoo.com writes: Hello people,    there is a new version of fatfingershell (0.2).     (snip) Moreover it is comfortable for fat fingers. Thanks for that, really usable shell. The keyboard lacks

Re: fatfingershell V0.2

2009-10-28 Thread Rafael Ignacio Zurita
Hello, --- On Wed, 10/28/09, ri...@happyleptic.org ri...@happyleptic.org wrote: -[ Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 04:37:15PM -0300, Rafael Ignacio Zurita ]    there is a new version of fatfingershell (0.2). Trying it on Hackable1, I got : No se pudo iniciar el modo grafico No video mode large enough

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

2009-10-28 Thread Iain B. Findleton
Ken Young wrote: DJDAS dj...@djdas.net wrote: [...] I am sure people trying the smoothness and responsiveness of Illume at 240x320 would never complain of a lower resolution! Furthermore I don't understand why a lower resolution (and in this I agree with you people are strange ;) )

Re: [QtMoko] glamo mplayer

2009-10-28 Thread Radek Polak
On Wednesday 28 of October 2009 03:16:47 Denis Johnson wrote: I want to use my FR to watch a stream from my MythTV recordings using http stream (I think it is mpeg 2) using my wireless. Is the glamo enhanced mplayer available in QtMoko/Denian ? Yes, the binary that QMplayer downloads from

Re: [QtMoko] mediaplayer issue

2009-10-28 Thread Radek Polak
On Wednesday 28 of October 2009 03:37:34 Denis Johnson wrote: How does one play a mpeg stream uing a link from qmplayer such as http://192.168.0.105//mythweb/pl/stream/1003/1256644800 You can try the sharing option. But the http parser in QMplayer is very simple - so it will most probably

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

2009-10-28 Thread Bernd Prünster
DJDAS wrote: Xavier Cremaschi wrote: No. From the user point of view, a recipe : - take SHR or Om2009 - put a simple theme instead of the default one - notice it's very fast Where is the part with the user who cannot use this or that ? That as Raster correctly said,

Re: fatfingershell V0.2

2009-10-28 Thread pike
Hi Portrait: no yet, and I am not sure if I want a portrait mode. I want a 80x24 shell, and comfortable keyboard. I don't know how to do that in portrait mode yet. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Pike/FFShell that may be radical, but I'm not sure if I find a qwerty layout to be the most

Re: fatfingershell V0.2

2009-10-28 Thread rixed
Can't it work in portrait mode ? Question: the problem looks like you don't have xrandr in Hackable1 right?. If you have, can you rotate the display to landscape? Well, we had it for sure, but in the daily build I'm using right now it kills X :) Portrait: no yet, and I am not sure if I

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

2009-10-28 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 10/28/09, DJDAS dj...@djdas.net wrote: And until some months ago there wasn't a simple theme for Illume (and please don't tell me creating Illume's themes is as easy as Qt or GTK...) But I will. Creating Illume themes and even redesigning it completely is easier than for Qt or GTK+. I tried

how to port a scheme interpreter to om?

2009-10-28 Thread Shawn
hi guys, does anybody has try to port the scheme interpreter(guile,etc) to openMOKO? -- GNU powered it... GPL protect it... God blessing it... regards HFG--Shawn the R0ck ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

one more question about nand

2009-10-28 Thread Matthias Huber
because i hadn't nderstood it in deep: when i would for example do an nand_erase on mtd6 and would make for example an ext3 of it, would this work or is the jffs necessary for writing into nand (mtd6) ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: one more question about nand

2009-10-28 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
because i hadn't nderstood it in deep: when i would for example do an nand_erase on mtd6 and would make for example an ext3 of it, would this work or is the jffs necessary for writing into nand (mtd6) ? You may create ext3 on top of mtdblock6, however this will be slower than ext3, and

Re: how to port a scheme interpreter to om?

2009-10-28 Thread GNUtoo
On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 23:57 +0800, Shawn wrote: hi guys, does anybody has try to port the scheme interpreter(guile,etc) to openMOKO? for what distribution? If it's for SHR try openembedded...there is a guile recipe,but verify that it's the same version than the one in

[all] window manager options

2009-10-28 Thread jeremy jozwik
hello list. after asking about the enlightenment keyboard crash issue someone mentioned switching the x window manager. my question is who has done this with there freerunner? how has it worked out for you? which wm did you chose? do all of them work for the freerunner? do you have any screenshots

Re: one more question about nand

2009-10-28 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
because i hadn't nderstood it in deep: when i would for example do an nand_erase on mtd6 and would make for example an ext3 of it, would this work or is the jffs necessary for writing into nand (mtd6) ? You may create ext3 on top of mtdblock6, however this will be slower than

Re: how to port a scheme interpreter to om?

2009-10-28 Thread rixed
-[ Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:57:13PM +0800, Shawn ] hi guys, does anybody has try to port the scheme interpreter(guile,etc) to openMOKO? Let's try : ri...@hackable1:~/leech$ sudo aptitude install guile-1.8 guile guile (version) 1.8.5 What distribution do you use, that comes without

Re: how to port a scheme interpreter to om?

2009-10-28 Thread Shawn
for what distribution? I got om for a few days.Im downloading the openWRT distro right now. If it's for SHR try openembedded...there is a guile recipe,but verify that it's the same version than the one in org.openembedded.dev else it will fail with a libtool problem because it would require

Re: how to port a scheme interpreter to om?

2009-10-28 Thread Shawn
Let's try : ri...@hackable1:~/leech$ sudo aptitude install guile-1.8 guile guile (version) 1.8.5 What distribution do you use, that comes without a prepackaged scheme ? my laptop distro is Fedora 9.om,i will try to put a openWRT into it. :-p

Re: one more question about nand

2009-10-28 Thread Matthias Huber
Nikita V. Youshchenko schrieb: because i hadn't nderstood it in deep: when i would for example do an nand_erase on mtd6 and would make for example an ext3 of it, would this work or is the jffs necessary for writing into nand (mtd6) ? You may create ext3 on top of mtdblock6, however

Re: [all] window manager options

2009-10-28 Thread Matthias Huber
jeremy jozwik schrieb: hello list. after asking about the enlightenment keyboard crash issue someone mentioned switching the x window manager. my question is who has done this with there freerunner? how has it worked out for you? which wm did you chose? do all of them work for the

Re: how to port a scheme interpreter to om?

2009-10-28 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/10/28 Shawn cit...@gmail.com: I have used the cross compiler arm-linux-gcc to compile guile but failed in Ah, the happy conjunction of my main free software interests... (I'm one of Guile's maintainers.) libtool problem. I tried compile 2 versions of guile(1.4 and 1.8.7) but got same

Re: how to port a scheme interpreter to om?

2009-10-28 Thread Shawn
Ah, the happy conjunction of my main free software interests... (I'm one of Guile's maintainers.) wowo~it's pleasure to meet you here dude~ If you want to send me details, I'm happy to try to help. But cross-compiling environments are tricky so it could take a few iterations. the 1.4

Re: [QtMoko] glamo mplayer

2009-10-28 Thread Dan Staley
I was thinking about this the other day. There are arm4 ports of myth-frontendso I wonder how well the frontend would run on the freerunner. It is designed to look good on low res screens I may try installing the front-end after I get my new myth system migrated. Has anyone else tried

Re: [QtMoko] glamo mplayer

2009-10-28 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
Dan Staley a écrit : I was thinking about this the other day. There are arm4 ports of myth-frontendso I wonder how well the frontend would run on the freerunner. It is designed to look good on low res screens I may try installing the front-end after I get my new myth system

Re: one more question about nand

2009-10-28 Thread Al Johnson
On Wednesday 28 October 2009, Matthias Huber wrote: Nikita V. Youshchenko schrieb: because i hadn't nderstood it in deep: when i would for example do an nand_erase on mtd6 and would make for example an ext3 of it, would this work or is the jffs necessary for writing into nand (mtd6)

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

2009-10-28 Thread Paul Fertser
Marcel tan...@googlemail.com writes: - graphics in general are far too light, most colors become whiteish - colored stripes horizontally over the whole display, but are invisible on screenshots (naturally) - the same as above, but photographed:

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

2009-10-28 Thread Christopher Friedt
Wow, I'm surprised nobody in this thread has been throwing Hitler insults around yet [1]. Changing the default resolution on the FR to QVGA is a good idea if it means a more responsive UI. Assuming that bpp and fps parameters stay the same, that would mean 1/4 of the current glamo-bus traffic.

Re: [QtMoko] glamo mplayer

2009-10-28 Thread Matthias Huber
Xavier Cremaschi schrieb: Dan Staley a écrit : I was thinking about this the other day. There are arm4 ports of myth-frontendso I wonder how well the frontend would run on the freerunner. It is designed to look good on low res screens I may try installing the front-end after I

Strange behaviour of elementary entry and illume keyboard. Did anybody noticed it?

2009-10-28 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
Hi! Have anybody noticed, when you type some text in a elementary entry, then you click on any other element (a button for example) and you click again on the entry. Now the cursor is still at the end of the text. But when you send some chars using illume keyword it inserts the chars *before the

Re: Strange behaviour of elementary entry and illume keyboard. Did anybody noticed it?

2009-10-28 Thread Marcel
Oh yes, I got VERY annoyed from that f*cking inconsistent backspace behaviour! Sorry, this had to be written. Its so annoying when editing text after having typed a few sentences, although I couldn't make out any rule behind that. Am Mittwoch, den 28.10.2009, 19:15 +0100 schrieb Laszlo KREKACS:

Re: Strange behaviour of elementary entry and illume keyboard. Did anybody noticed it?

2009-10-28 Thread Petr Vanek
Oh yes, I got VERY annoyed from that f*cking inconsistent backspace behaviour! Sorry, this had to be written. Its so annoying when editing text after having typed a few sentences, although I couldn't make out any rule behind that. Am Mittwoch, den 28.10.2009, 19:15 +0100 schrieb Laszlo KREKACS:

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

2009-10-28 Thread DJDAS
Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: But I will. Creating Illume themes and even redesigning it completely is easier than for Qt or GTK+. I tried it (i'm author of Niebiee theme), so I know :P Really, you're annoying. Sorry other people, I don't agree with Raster and SHR maintainers simply

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

2009-10-28 Thread Bernd Prünster
DJDAS wrote: Cedric BAIL wrote: So either you have something like QtMoko without fancy stuff, and it will be faster, or you have some fancy effect, but slower fps. That's it. You can cry, you can yell, it will not be possible to do something more than that. Yes, it is frustrating, but the

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

2009-10-28 Thread DJDAS
Bernd Prünster ha scritto: DJDAS wrote: FDOM uses illume, the launcher is efl, the settings app is efl... strange world we live in... Yes I know, thank you :) but since then I noticed new versions were slower than the one I have, so maybe FDOM guys or that libraries version was more

Re: ffalarms 0.3 -- recurring alarms

2009-10-28 Thread Łukasz Pankowski
jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com writes: 2009/10/25 Łukasz Pankowski lukp...@o2.pl: Hi I have just released ffalarms 0.3, it adds recurring alarms, please test it before depending on it. For me the most missing feature now is being able to edit the alarms and postponing in the

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

2009-10-28 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 10/28/09, DJDAS dj...@djdas.net wrote: Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: But I will. Creating Illume themes and even redesigning it completely is easier than for Qt or GTK+. I tried it (i'm author of Niebiee theme), so I know :P Really, you're annoying. Sorry other people, I don't agree

[SHR-u] Wifi, Keyboard and scripting

2009-10-28 Thread Johan Kraft
Hi all, I have got a couple of questions regarding the latest SHR-u. Is is possible to have it _not_ suspend as default when on battery? How do I turn on the wifi radio from the command line (instead of going through the settings)? How do I run a script automatically at the end of the start up

Re: ffalarms 0.3 -- recurring alarms

2009-10-28 Thread Petr Vanek
don't forget to fit in the Snooze slider too, please :) It shouldn't need a separate slider. If you turn off but don't ACK it should be equivalent to a snooze. tried that this morning and no snooze, i mean i could snooze but the phone went to sleep :) Petr

can anyone tell their experiences about mer

2009-10-28 Thread Aditya Gandhi
hi there just curios about mer can anyone tell their experiences about mer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: [SHR-u] Wifi, Keyboard and scripting

2009-10-28 Thread Al Johnson
On Wednesday 28 October 2009, Johan Kraft wrote: Hi all, I have got a couple of questions regarding the latest SHR-u. Is is possible to have it _not_ suspend as default when on battery? Settings - Power in the 'Power Settings' section How do I turn on the wifi radio from the command line

Re: [SHR-u] Wifi, Keyboard and scripting

2009-10-28 Thread Petr Vanek
Is is possible to have it _not_ suspend as default when on battery? Settings-Power-Auto-suspend: Off How do I turn on the wifi radio from the command line (instead of going through the settings)? opkg install fsoraw fsoraw --help How do I run a script automatically at the end of the start up

Re: ffalarms 0.3 -- recurring alarms

2009-10-28 Thread Al Johnson
On Wednesday 28 October 2009, Petr Vanek wrote: don't forget to fit in the Snooze slider too, please :) It shouldn't need a separate slider. If you turn off but don't ACK it should be equivalent to a snooze. tried that this morning and no snooze, i mean i could snooze but the phone went

Re: ffalarms 0.3 -- recurring alarms

2009-10-28 Thread Petr Vanek
I meant that it ought to behave that way in future, not that it would in the current version. I don't care if the phone goes to sleep during the snooze interval so long as the alarm goes off again five minutes later! :) sure, now it didn't wake up itself and me neither :)) what if the unlocking

Re: can anyone tell their experiences about mer

2009-10-28 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 01:29:23AM +0530, Aditya Gandhi wrote: hi there just curios about mer can anyone tell their experiences about mer As my Smart q/ arrives, I may have something to say about it :) But I don't expect it before sometime in the next 7 to 17 days :( Rui

Re: #1024-rework service available

2009-10-28 Thread Michael Smith
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:04:54 +0100 Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Michael, i'm also interested in doing teh rework on my own, but on this page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/1024 and related links there are only few images... so can you please post yours when your work is done?

Keyboard above xterm, first try

2009-10-28 Thread rixed
Also, I'm a little contraried by the memory footprint of the program, and by the fact that I would like this keyboard for other apps... Anybody already tried to build a OSD keyboard with lib-aosd or lib-xosd ? Ok, as a proof of concept I just did a virtual keyboard using the XShape extension,

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

2009-10-28 Thread Al Johnson
On Wednesday 28 October 2009, DJDAS wrote: Bernd Prünster ha scritto: DJDAS wrote: FDOM uses illume, the launcher is efl, the settings app is efl... strange world we live in... Yes I know, thank you :) but since then I noticed new versions were slower than the one I have, so maybe

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