Re: call echo service for test of audio calls

2011-11-27 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Matthias Apitz  writes:
> If it would be free of charge and in Germany, even better :-)

I used to call my asterisk voice mail for such tests. Even had a fancy
DTMF menu for different test scenarios. Unfortunately my operator
(Saunalahti Nettipuhelin) is no longer offering SIP.

Maybe you can use some non-free voice mail service? ;-)

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call echo service for test of audio calls

2011-11-27 Thread Matthias Apitz

Hello,

I'm testing my new SHR installation, but the question perhaps is valid
for all FR distributions: Is there some call-echo-service like Skype
offers, i.e. one does a call to the service number, listen the greeting
message, says something of 10-15 secs, and the service after this
echoes back what it was listening?

If it would be free of charge and in Germany, even better :-)

Thanks

matthias
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Re: [SHR] Unable to load with Qi from uSD card (was CLEANMARKER node found [and something more I can't read] )

2011-11-27 Thread Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011, ø wrote:

> > and formated a Trascend 4GB SDHC card with ext3 format, and then

> rootdelay=5 rootfstype=ext2 loglevel=8 quiet splash

if you did a ext3 Partition and specify rootfstype=ext2 that won't boot
IIRC... maybe that is the problem?

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GTAX

2011-11-27 Thread Philip Rhoades

People,

Don't we need a larger form factor?  Like a 4.5" screen?  Has there 
been any discussion along these lines?


Thanks,

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Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-11-27 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi Jorge,

Am 26.11.2011 um 22:01 schrieb Jorge Costa:

> Hi Nikolaus,
> 
> two quick questions, I suppose you know the answer to the first one:
> 
> 1) how many subscribers are there on this list ?

The gta04-owners list has approx. 270 subscribers (may have some duplicates).
The openmoko-community list has approx. 1760 subscribers.

> 2) how many GTA02 units were sold by openmoko?

According to my estimates there have been sold approx.

3k GTA01 (Neo1973)
15k GTA02 (Freerunner)

> did they ever published the number of units sold ?

Not exact numbers but I could extrapolate our own number of
units and informal hints from other distributors and projects.

Anyways, 350 GTA04 upgrades are just 2%. So it appears
to be totally feasible to reach the quantity. And, there should
be plenty of GTA02 cases collecting dust and waiting for a
new boards inside...

Nikolaus

> 
> jorge
> 
> On 26/11/11 18:10, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> some days ago the "GTA04 Group Tour" subscription was
>> announced, with the goal that the number of units per production
>> run is increased to reduce the price per unit to the
>> benefits of all.
>> 
>> The idea is that interested persons and institutions can
>> preorder until 10th of Feb 2012 (right after FOSDEM where
>> boards and devices will be shown). If we hit the minimum
>> quantity of 350 units, production can start approx. in March
>> for first delivery in April.
>> 
>> To make the status more transparent, there is a new subscription
>> level indicator (similar to online booking numbered seats in a concert
>> hall or airplane flight - except that there are no numbers):
>> 
>>  http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=GTA04%20Group%20Tour
>> 
>> On this indicator, we can see more and more of the GTA04 image
>> as pre-orders are coming in. And the hands of the clock show
>> how close we come to the deadline.
>> 
>> Currently, we have bookings for 5% of the units (thanks to all
>> who already did subscribe!) after 14% of the subscription time.
>> 
>> BR,
>> Nikolaus
>> 
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>> http://lists.goldelico.com/mailman/listinfo/gta04-owner
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[SHR] Unable to load with Qi from uSD card (was CLEANMARKER node found [and something more I can't read] )

2011-11-27 Thread ø

> 
> I didn't see instructions for using ubi images.
> 
> I have instead tried uSD card installation. I installed qi bootloader,
> and formated a Trascend 4GB SDHC card with ext3 format, and then
> uncompressed full-om-gta02.tar.gz file on it.
> 
> But when I load from qi, the card seems to not work. I have used the
> rootdelay=5 as Qi article says, but after 5 seconds it seems not to be
> able to read the card, and the kernel panics.

I tried a lot of combinations, but I can't boot. This is what I get, I
expect there aren't errors as I have typed it by hand:


mmc1: new high speed SDHC card at address b368
mmcblk0: mmc1:b368 USD   3.74 GiB
 mmcblk0: unknown partition table
Waiting 5sec before mounting root device...
VFS: Cannot open root device "mmcblk0p1" or unknown-block(179,1)
Please append a correct "root=" boot option; here are the available
partitions:
1f002048 mtdblock0 (driver?)
1f01 256 mtdblock1 (driver?)
1f02 256 mtdblock2 (driver?)
1f038192 mtdblock3 (driver?)
1f04 640 mtdblock4 (driver?)
1f05 256 mtdblock5 (driver?)
1f06  252544 mtdblock6 (driver?)
b300 3939112 mmcblk0  driver: mmcblk
Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown
block(179,1)

On my append-GTA02 I have:

rootdelay=5 rootfstype=ext2 loglevel=8 quiet splash


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Re: [SHR] CLEANMARKER node found [and something more I can't read]

2011-11-27 Thread Vaudano Luca
> I didn't see instructions for using ubi images.
I used these instructions
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/UBIFS#Alternative
and it works well

cheers

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Re: [SHR] CLEANMARKER node found [and something more I can't read]

2011-11-27 Thread ø

> I'm using shr on uSD only, but please try ubi images instead of jffs2 or
> even shr-core version.
> 
> Cheers,
> 

I didn't see instructions for using ubi images.

I have instead tried uSD card installation. I installed qi bootloader,
and formated a Trascend 4GB SDHC card with ext3 format, and then
uncompressed full-om-gta02.tar.gz file on it.

But when I load from qi, the card seems to not work. I have used the
rootdelay=5 as Qi article says, but after 5 seconds it seems not to be
able to read the card, and the kernel panics.


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Re: [SHR] CLEANMARKER node found [and something more I can't read]

2011-11-27 Thread Martin Jansa
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 12:10:27PM +0100, ø wrote:
> El dom, 27-11-2011 a las 08:17 +, dmatthews.org escribió:
> > > After a very, very long time, the system is booted, and it seems fine,
> > > but the load time seems wrong.
> > > 
> > I think that is normal the first time SHR boots up; if you reboot now I 
> > think it will come backup much quicker?
> > 
> 
> Thanks for the answer. Thing is yesterday I rebooted like 5 times, and
> all times took a lot of time an CLEANMARKER error was shown. So,
> finally, I quited, I wrote this message, and I went to bed.
> 
> This morning, I was decided to try a few things, but the restart was
> much quicker.
> 
> I'm sorry to disturb the list for something that fixed on its own.
> Thanks again for taking care.

I'm using shr on uSD only, but please try ubi images instead of jffs2 or
even shr-core version.

Cheers,

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Re: [SHR] CLEANMARKER node found [and something more I can't read]

2011-11-27 Thread ø
El dom, 27-11-2011 a las 08:17 +, dmatthews.org escribió:
> > After a very, very long time, the system is booted, and it seems fine,
> > but the load time seems wrong.
> > 
> I think that is normal the first time SHR boots up; if you reboot now I think 
> it will come backup much quicker?
> 

Thanks for the answer. Thing is yesterday I rebooted like 5 times, and
all times took a lot of time an CLEANMARKER error was shown. So,
finally, I quited, I wrote this message, and I went to bed.

This morning, I was decided to try a few things, but the restart was
much quicker.

I'm sorry to disturb the list for something that fixed on its own.
Thanks again for taking care.



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Re: what do I install now?

2011-11-27 Thread dmatthews.org
Hi Timo, Xavier

I think I proved that the 4GB SanDisk will not work ^_^; I tried putting

rootwait glamo_mci.sd_max_clk=500 glamo_mci.sd_drive=3

in /boot/append-GTA02, but I get a kernel panic, can't find root fs. It is 
interesting though, I think before it just booted from NAND instead of card.

Xavier - that wiki of yours looks really good (pity that's not true of my 
French!). It reinforces what I've said though, that there is really helpful 
GTA-02 information out there, that is not very easy to find.

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Re: what do I install now?

2011-11-27 Thread Xavier Cremaschi

On 26/11/2011 20:42, dmatthews.org wrote:

I recently went back to using qtmoko after an extended try of SHR, which has 
come on in leaps and bounds although I found the way (at the moment) it 
(mis)handles text messages hugely annoying in the end. My attitude was I want 
to reduce my annoyance level with this charming device to about zero and I have 
more or less done that.

However it took a good long while researching various aspects of Freerunner lore which I 
found only wirh some difficulty, scattered over several places. Am I right to think 
there's a good case for a resource "ok I have a freerunner, now what". Or maybe 
the part of the whole world that has a freerunner already knows what to do and is more 
interested in gta-04 now.

I'd be happy to host something myself if there was no other place to collate 
this sort of information




That's why we have a wiki, but like all wikis it needs to be maintained. 
Maybe you can write your own page about your experiments and step by 
step it will become a nice entry point.


I did one in French on my own wiki in august 2008 to keep notes of my 
discoveries ( http://wiki.troulite.fr/index.php?title=NeoFreerunner ) 
and it was useful for me.


An english one on wiki.openmoko.org and kept up to date would be a nice 
thing to have (maybe it already exists ?)



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Re: what do I install now?

2011-11-27 Thread Xavier Cremaschi

On 26/11/2011 12:24, robin wrote:

the problem I as a very "semi-skilled" programmer have with all of the
distributions is that I haven't yet found any straight forward tutorials on how
to create little apps/eg front ends for command line calls or so, so developing
is out of range for me.


This is a problem for lots of free software projects :(

As a professional developer (my job) who works 5 days a week in a very 
well known-to-me environment I would love to see more free software 
projects having "dumb" tutorials to help bootstrapping and understanding 
these new environments. Because it really takes lot of free time just to 
go from

"hey nice software, I would like to help"
to
"ok now I can compile and run it in step-by-step mode on my own pc"

Xavier,



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Re: [SHR] CLEANMARKER node found [and something more I can't read]

2011-11-27 Thread dmatthews.org
 
> After a very, very long time, the system is booted, and it seems fine,
> but the load time seems wrong.
> 
I think that is normal the first time SHR boots up; if you reboot now I think 
it will come backup much quicker?

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Re: what do I install now?

2011-11-27 Thread robin

Hi Ben,

thanks for the link. My problem though is that for you guys this seems to be all
basic, easy and certainly straight forward and also includes the important
information on how you can interact with fso, but for me it is still too
advanced, so I was looking more for something like a python api or so.
Applications for shr which I always found inspiring were minneo and podboy.
So I guess one of the underlying questions here is on how the community can make
use of someone like me (max skills python; creating art work; translating stuff;
running linux for about 10y now) and the real developers. In other words how
to pass little jobs to the unskilled and make them be part of the system...


best regards

robin



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