Re: navit in V55
On Mittwoch, 29. Mai 2013, robin wrote: hi matth, could you please provide a step by step explanation of solving the libcryptoproblem. many thanks. Get the package from http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/libssl0.9.8 - choose armel. Unpack this package (easyest in mc), copy the libcrypto.so.0.9.8 in a private directory (You could copy it directly to /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabi , but I prefer to have it separated from the official stuff, in that way I remember what I did later) Make a symlink in /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabi pointing to the libcrypto.so.0.9.8 in Your private directory. Done. Matth ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] black screen after sms reception
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 11:28 PM, Adrien Dorsaz adr...@adorsaz.ch wrote: Hello! I've again the black screen after reception of an SMS bug using QtMoko v55 (self compiled) on GTA04 (I'm not sure if it depends on hardware). Now, I've some new notes about this bug : * When the SMS arrive, the screen light on and I see the lock screen during 3 seconds (during this time I see the 1 message received dialog appears) and after it normally suspends (with aux green blinking) * if I press power button to resume from suspend, screen stays black (even if I press several times) * some times after the screen power on (I don't know really exact time, but it seems to be long so about 20 seconds) I've seen the same behaviour using Radek's v55. I haven't seen the screen turning back on as you described, though I cannot say that I waited that long before pulling the battery and re-booting... Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] black screen after sms reception
On Monday, May 27, 2013 11:28:16 PM Adrien Dorsaz wrote: Hello! I've again the black screen after reception of an SMS bug using QtMoko v55 (self compiled) on GTA04 (I'm not sure if it depends on hardware). Hi Adrien, for some reason i dont believe cross compilers. Last time i was using cross compiled qtmoko was like 2 years ago, so i cant tell from my own experience if cross compiled qtmoko actually works as whole (i just cross compiled only one app/library). Now, I've some new notes about this bug : * When the SMS arrive, the screen light on and I see the lock screen during 3 seconds (during this time I see the 1 message received dialog appears) and after it normally suspends (with aux green blinking) * if I press power button to resume from suspend, screen stays black (even if I press several times) * some times after the screen power on (I don't know really exact time, but it seems to be long so about 20 seconds) We were already trying to solvethis problem. IIRC it seems to be related with dbus crashing on resume which causes QtMoko to crash too. QtMoko is responsible for setting screen brightness after resume and because of the crash the display stays dark. Can you try SSH to the device when the display is black and check if dbus and QtMoko are running? Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] black screen after sms reception
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: We were already trying to solvethis problem. IIRC it seems to be related with dbus crashing on resume which causes QtMoko to crash too. Ah! So it's not SMS reception _per se_ that crashes dbus, but rather the resume... that's a new insight for me! Can you try SSH to the device when the display is black and check if dbus and QtMoko are running? That was directed to Adrien, but I'll try to do that as well... Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
navit in V55
Hi all, I was looking into bringing navit to work. 1st - libcrypto libcrypto.so.9.8 is included in libssl0.9.8, which was shipped with squeeze, but not with wheezy. The current package is libssl1.0.0, that means, you need to rebuild navit. I solved this quick and dirty by storing the libcrypto.so.0.9.8 out of the squeeze package into a private directory and making a symlink to it in /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabi. Navit now does not complain anymore. The function of the crypto-related stuff will probably not work, but I by myself did not find something where this would be necessary. 2nd - gpsd navit complains at start: navit:plugin_load:can't load '/opt/qtmoko/lib/navit/vehicle/libvehicle_gpsd.so', Error 'libgps.so.19: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory' navit:vehicle_new:invalid source 'gpsd://localhost': unknown type 'gpsd' I solved this by changing the way navit expects the GPS data. The line vehicle name=Local GPS profilename=car enabled=yes active=1 source=gpsd://localhost gpsd_query=w+xj I changed to vehicle name=Local GPS profilename=car enabled=yes active=1 source=pipe:/usr/bin/gpspipe -l -r and it works fine. Matthias ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
mqtim not working
Hello. On v55 of openmoko mqtim doen't work for me. It' doesn't start either. The msg is something like the application has been closed due to an error of the app itself Is there a solution? thank you urodelo -- 不要催我!你曾經問過梵谷畫很快嗎? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: mqtim not working
On Tuesday, May 28, 2013 01:07:18 PM urodelo wrote: Hello. On v55 of openmoko mqtim doen't work for me. It' doesn't start either. The msg is something like the application has been closed due to an error of the app itself Is there a solution? Hi you can try run it from ssh to get more verbose message: ssh root@192.168.0.202 . /opt/qtmoko/qpe.env mqutim It will be probably some library missing. Unfortunately i have not managed to rebuild this app from sources, but i havent tried really hard so there might be solution... Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] black screen after sms reception
Hello, We were already trying to solvethis problem. IIRC it seems to be related with dbus crashing on resume which causes QtMoko to crash too. QtMoko is responsible for setting screen brightness after resume and because of the crash the display stays dark. Can you try SSH to the device when the display is black and check if dbus and QtMoko are running? Oh, yeah I've forgot the dbus bug because I forgot that I've modified my resume script to restart dbus in case of any error. So this bug description isn't good to find the real bug. I'll try again later without my resume script. Sorry for the inconvenience, Adrien signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: navit in V55
hi matth, could you please provide a step by step explanation of solving the libcryptoproblem. many thanks. robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] new version of FBReader with Qt4
On Sunday, May 26, 2013 09:59:53 PM francesco.dev...@mailoo.org wrote: Il 26/05/2013 19:13, Adrien Dorsaz ha scritto: Hello, I've tried latest qtmoko-fbreader and I was unable to run it. I've tried by console (by ssh) and I've found this error : loading /opt/qtmoko/lib/zlibrary/ui/zlui-qt4.so libgps.so.20: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory So I've installed libgps-dev and I was able to run it (I haven't gpsd installed on my QtMoko v55 on GTA04). Maybe we should add dependency in the package ? but... why the hell should fbreader need a gps lib?? (: Debian has feature that automatically generates library dependencies. We started using libgps some time ago in QtMoko libs and because fbreader depends on qtmoko it somehow transitively bubbled also into fbreader. No idea if this is bug or feature. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QtMoko] black screen after sms reception
Hello! I've again the black screen after reception of an SMS bug using QtMoko v55 (self compiled) on GTA04 (I'm not sure if it depends on hardware). Now, I've some new notes about this bug : * When the SMS arrive, the screen light on and I see the lock screen during 3 seconds (during this time I see the 1 message received dialog appears) and after it normally suspends (with aux green blinking) * if I press power button to resume from suspend, screen stays black (even if I press several times) * some times after the screen power on (I don't know really exact time, but it seems to be long so about 20 seconds) Hope this help, Adrien signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Compilation failure in qtmoko git src for GTA02.
Hello,
Le dimanche 26 mai 2013 à 03:18 +0300, Πρεκατές Αλέξανδρος a écrit :
Trying to compile qtmoko from git sources and having executed:
../qtmoko/configure -device neo
i get many errors as you can see in the paste bin:
http://pastebin.com/9U9WP6a5
Mmmhh, there's a bug in yberbrowser. Have you tried to modify it ?
from
/root/qte/radekp-qtmoko/src/3rdparty/applications/yberbrowser/src/AutoSelectLineEdit.cpp:27:
/root/qte/radekp-qtmoko/src/3rdparty/applications/yberbrowser/src/CookieJar.h:28:
error: expected class-name before '{' token
If you pastebin this file (CookiJar.h), I'll probably be able to give
you a patch.
Also some newbie questions:
trying to compile qtmoko in the PC build (as mentioned in the README) will i
have a screen like in QVFB ? Or the pc build is sth else that i cant
undestand
in the moment?
I've tried it and in fact, your PC will run QtMoko directly on tty1
(ctrl-alt-f1) and you'll be able to use QtMoko exactly as the same than
on your phone. Although I've not found how to quite the application
after being in it...
Regards,
Adrien
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how can I determine the package version in the original qtmoko*.tar.gz
hi, I have the problem that I cannot connect to my wpa secured network after I upgraded wpasupplicant. now I know the original version of the wpasupplicant so I downloaded it. by trying simply to downgrade I had the following error: wpasupplicant : Depends: libpcsclite1 (= 1.8.6) but 1.8.4-1 is installed which is somewhat strange as the original qtmoko v55 tar.gz comes with the wpasupplicant 1.0-3? so how was it able to be installed as there is no 1.8.4-1 version of libpcsclite1 available in wheezy? Arne pointed me in the right direction to get a higher version so I got libpcsclite1_1.8.6-4_armel.deb and this installed fine with wpasupplicant 1.0-3 but unfortunately I still cannot connect to my network which I was able to do right after the initial installation of qtmoko v55. So I am still a bit puzzled: a) how could the wpasupplicant (1.0-3) be installed originally without the libpcsclite1 = 1.8.6 being available in wheezy b) why is the standard downgrade not working Is there a way to see what package version libpcslite1 had by browsing the qtmoko v55 tar.gz? br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Compilation failure in qtmoko git src for GTA02.
I'm senting CookieJar.h
http://pastebin.com/niCXvaY8
Hello,
Le dimanche 26 mai 2013 à 03:18 +0300, Πρεκατές Αλέξανδρος a écrit :
Trying to compile qtmoko from git sources and having executed:
../qtmoko/configure -device neo
i get many errors as you can see in the paste bin:
http://pastebin.com/9U9WP6a5
Mmmhh, there's a bug in yberbrowser. Have you tried to modify it ?
from /root/qte/radekp-
qtmoko/src/3rdparty/applications/yberbrowser/src/AutoSelectLineEdit.cpp:27:
/root/qte/radekp-
qtmoko/src/3rdparty/applications/yberbrowser/src/CookieJar.h:28: error:
expected class-name before '{' token
If you pastebin this file (CookiJar.h), I'll probably be able to give
you a patch.
Also some newbie questions:
trying to compile qtmoko in the PC build (as mentioned in the README) will
i
have a screen like in QVFB ? Or the pc build is sth else that i cant
undestand
in the moment?
I've tried it and in fact, your PC will run QtMoko directly on tty1
(ctrl-alt-f1) and you'll be able to use QtMoko exactly as the same than
on your phone. Although I've not found how to quite the application
after being in it...
Regards,
Adrien
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Re: how can I determine the package version in the original qtmoko*.tar.gz
Is there a way to see what package version libpcslite1 had by browsing the qtmoko v55 tar.gz? find /var/lib/dpkg/status in the tar ball. it's the database over all installed packages, but a plain text file. in there look for Package: libpcslite1 a few lines below there's one starting with Version: -- that's, what you want. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Qtmoko compilation help.
Trying to compile qtmoko for my gta02 on my debian 6 pc i've come to two issues that make me slow: 1) I noticed that if i run configure again the a great deal of compilation happens although not sure if the whole recompiles again or a part 2) I've across errors propably relating to one app . How can i configure to compile qtmoko but leaving some apps, or non-core functionality out? alexandros ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] new version of FBReader with Qt4
Hello, I've tried latest qtmoko-fbreader and I was unable to run it. I've tried by console (by ssh) and I've found this error : loading /opt/qtmoko/lib/zlibrary/ui/zlui-qt4.so libgps.so.20: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory So I've installed libgps-dev and I was able to run it (I haven't gpsd installed on my QtMoko v55 on GTA04). Maybe we should add dependency in the package ? Regards, Adrien signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] new version of FBReader with Qt4
Il 26/05/2013 19:13, Adrien Dorsaz ha scritto: Hello, I've tried latest qtmoko-fbreader and I was unable to run it. I've tried by console (by ssh) and I've found this error : loading /opt/qtmoko/lib/zlibrary/ui/zlui-qt4.so libgps.so.20: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory So I've installed libgps-dev and I was able to run it (I haven't gpsd installed on my QtMoko v55 on GTA04). Maybe we should add dependency in the package ? but... why the hell should fbreader need a gps lib?? (: Joif ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Giving GTA02 with hardware issues
Hi all, I'm giving my GTA02 (A7). I think it might be used to convert to a GTA04, or maybe for some other use. The phone has several years of daily use (bought in July 2009), but is still in good shape. Except for the back cover that removes itself a bit too easily. I can send photos if necessary. In any case, it has some hardware issues since a few months : when running on battery, it switches off after a few seconds or minutes, even if the battery is fully charged. When plugged through USB, it seems to work fine (on QtMoko). The screen is ok (no dead pixel, very few scratches) I'm just asking to give it a second life in a useful way, and to pay for shipping (from France). I'm hoping it might help this community in some way. Regards, Mossroy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
qtmoko wifi wpa problem after upgrade wpasupplicant 1.0-3 to 1.0-3+b1
Hi, I pretty much went one by one through the packages given after a apt-get dist-upgrade (on qtmoko v55). I knew from my other freerunner that the wifi breaks at some point (WPA TKIP). Now I have identified the problem with the upgrade from wpasupplicant Preparing to replace wpasupplicant 1.0-3 (using .../wpasupplicant_1.0-3+b1_armel.deb) I have searched on the debian page but there is only the +b1 package for armel. maybe someone can help me to get hold of a wpasupplicant 1.0-3 deb package so I could downgrade. the old one from squeeze has too many dependency issues. best regards and many thanks robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko wifi wpa problem after upgrade wpasupplicant 1.0-3 to 1.0-3+b1
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Re: qtmoko wifi wpa problem after upgrade wpasupplicant 1.0-3 to 1.0-3+b1
many thank! unfortunately the 1.0-3 now all of a sudden asks for wpasupplicant : Depends: libpcsclite1 (= 1.8.6) but 1.8.4-1 is installed which is nowhere available ... I guess I will have to go for a complete reinstall :-( but many thanks for your quick help. br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko wifi wpa problem after upgrade wpasupplicant 1.0-3 to 1.0-3+b1
many thank! unfortunately the 1.0-3 now all of a sudden asks for wpasupplicant : Depends: libpcsclite1 (= 1.8.6) but 1.8.4-1 is installed which is nowhere available ... I guess I will have to go for a complete reinstall :-( nope, you most likely don't. the idea of http://snapshot.debian.org/ is to a) provide older packages and b) allow you to use it in apt. check the page out, it starts witha description of how to use it in apt and you can search for specific packages as well. in your case i guess you won't really need more than a handful old packages ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Giving GTA02 with hardware issues
Hi Mossroy, i'm Ruben Lubbes from the Netherlands, i am following the project for years, but have never been able to set aside enough money to afford myself the use of a Openmoko. I would like to experiment with it, and would be interested in converting it to GTA04. I am innterested in the mobile linux project since 1999, as i got a iPaq, and converted it to Opie immediately, and provided Dutch and other translations and docs for it. If I am not too late, i would like to offer myself as the new home for the GTA02. If you would like to know more, i'd be willing to tell more about myself, and my projects. Thanks for recycling the phone in such a useful way, even if it will go to someone else :) Greetings, Ruben Dit krabbelde Mossroy op 25-05-13 11:34: Hi all, I'm giving my GTA02 (A7). I think it might be used to convert to a GTA04, or maybe for some other use. The phone has several years of daily use (bought in July 2009), but is still in good shape. Except for the back cover that removes itself a bit too easily. I can send photos if necessary. In any case, it has some hardware issues since a few months : when running on battery, it switches off after a few seconds or minutes, even if the battery is fully charged. When plugged through USB, it seems to work fine (on QtMoko). The screen is ok (no dead pixel, very few scratches) I'm just asking to give it a second life in a useful way, and to pay for shipping (from France). I'm hoping it might help this community in some way. Regards, Mossroy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Giving GTA02 with hardware issues
On Sat 25 May 2013 21:39:51 Sikko wrote: [removed TOFU] In any case, it has some hardware issues since a few months : when running on battery, it switches off after a few seconds or minutes, even if the battery is fully charged. When plugged through USB, it seems to I suspect your battery cell is dead. You could disassemble the gta02-smartbat and swap the cell by a matching Nokia dumb-battery cell. Or use a nokia battery and drivers for dumb battery (without bq27k chip). cheers jOERG -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Compilation failure in qtmoko git src for GTA02.
Trying to compile qtmoko from git sources and having executed: ../qtmoko/configure -device neo i get many errors as you can see in the paste bin: http://pastebin.com/9U9WP6a5 Also some newbie questions: trying to compile qtmoko in the PC build (as mentioned in the README) will i have a screen like in QVFB ? Or the pc build is sth else that i cant undestand in the moment? alexandros ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [WikiReader] Giving, and last chance to get?
Dnia 2013-05-23, czw o godzinie 14:19 -0700, Doug Jones pisze: I just got an email from Sean recommending this: http://igg.me/at/wikireaders4kids/x/3095893 26 days left to end of campaign?! Is this a joke? There is no chance they will raise 232k$ in 26 days... -- Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [WikiReader] Giving, and last chance to get?
On 05/24/2013 12:21 AM, Patryk Benderz wrote: Dnia 2013-05-23, czw o godzinie 14:19 -0700, Doug Jones pisze: I just got an email from Sean recommending this: http://igg.me/at/wikireaders4kids/x/3095893 26 days left to end of campaign?! Is this a joke? There is no chance they will raise 232k$ in 26 days... You may be right about that. But with an Indiegogo Flexible Funding campaign like this one, they collect the pledged funds even if they don't hit their stated goal. So they've already got enough for over a hundred WikiReaders. Sometimes these things accelerate a lot. We'll see. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[ADMIN] imap.openmoko.org move
Dear all, I will be moving/migrating imap.openmoko.org during the next hours, so anyone still using openmoko.org for their personal mail: Please be patient until it is back up and running. In case DNS doesn't catch up quickly enough, the new IP address will be 144.76.72.4. I will also install port forwarding for imaps port 993. The main MTA for openmoko.org, including the list server hosting this mailing list will still remain as-is. Regards, Harald -- - Harald Welte lafo...@gnumonks.org http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option. (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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[WikiReader] Giving, and last chance to get?
I just got an email from Sean recommending this: http://igg.me/at/wikireaders4kids/x/3095893 It's a non-profit campaign to give WikiReaders to thousands of kids. Sean is supporting the project, and is helping the organizers to get the best possible purchase price. I am signing up too. Very laudable goals. But reading between the lines, this looks like it may represent the end-of-life for this excellent OpenMoko device. If the hardware manufacturer has 10,000 units in overstock, of a product that was released years ago, then they may not be interested in ever making any more of these. And if the wikireaders4kids campaign succeeds, all existing stock may vanish from the marketplace. So this may be your last opportunity to buy a WikiReader (although I expect used ones may be available for a long time). You can get them by pledging to that campaign, or for $14.99 on Amazon, or other places as mentioned at the bottom of this page: http://www.thewikireader.com/ I also see that new content has recently become available for the WikiReader: http://thewikireader.com/languagepacks.php I see that the codebase is still being actively updated: https://github.com/wikireader/wikireader I think it would be a shame if this beautiful machine really does go out of manufacture, never to be updated again. Wouldn't it be great if this design could be released as open hardware... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [WikiReader] Giving, and last chance to get?
Everyone, So I have been reading up on the GTA04 here: http://projects.goldelico.com/p/gta04-main/page/Manual/ Has anyone on the list printed a board, purchased parts, assembled the hardware and built the software stack themselves? I am interested in doing exactly this. If you have experience with this, please contact me off of the list. Joseph Armbruster On May 23, 2013, at 5:19 PM, Doug Jones wrote: I just got an email from Sean recommending this: http://igg.me/at/wikireaders4kids/x/3095893 It's a non-profit campaign to give WikiReaders to thousands of kids. Sean is supporting the project, and is helping the organizers to get the best possible purchase price. I am signing up too. Very laudable goals. But reading between the lines, this looks like it may represent the end-of-life for this excellent OpenMoko device. If the hardware manufacturer has 10,000 units in overstock, of a product that was released years ago, then they may not be interested in ever making any more of these. And if the wikireaders4kids campaign succeeds, all existing stock may vanish from the marketplace. So this may be your last opportunity to buy a WikiReader (although I expect used ones may be available for a long time). You can get them by pledging to that campaign, or for $14.99 on Amazon, or other places as mentioned at the bottom of this page: http://www.thewikireader.com/ I also see that new content has recently become available for the WikiReader: http://thewikireader.com/languagepacks.php I see that the codebase is still being actively updated: https://github.com/wikireader/wikireader I think it would be a shame if this beautiful machine really does go out of manufacture, never to be updated again. Wouldn't it be great if this design could be released as open hardware... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GTA04 (was: Re: [WikiReader] Giving, and last chance to get?)
@Joseph Armbruster, you should have changed the subject line to something more appropriate. (I just did that.) The [WikiReader] tag indicated that the thread relates to the WikiReader, a different Openmoko product, not the open source smart phone most people talk about here. Some people will see that tag in the subject line and ignore your message. You might also want to post your message in another list, gta04-ow...@goldelico.com, which is more specifically targeted to the GTA04. On 05/23/2013 02:38 PM, Joseph Armbruster wrote: Everyone, So I have been reading up on the GTA04 here: http://projects.goldelico.com/p/gta04-main/page/Manual/ Has anyone on the list printed a board, purchased parts, assembled the hardware and built the software stack themselves? I am interested in doing exactly this. If you have experience with this, please contact me off of the list. Joseph Armbruster On May 23, 2013, at 5:19 PM, Doug Jones wrote: I just got an email from Sean recommending this: http://igg.me/at/wikireaders4kids/x/3095893 It's a non-profit campaign to give WikiReaders to thousands of kids. Sean is supporting the project, and is helping the organizers to get the best possible purchase price. I am signing up too. Very laudable goals. But reading between the lines, this looks like it may represent the end-of-life for this excellent OpenMoko device. If the hardware manufacturer has 10,000 units in overstock, of a product that was released years ago, then they may not be interested in ever making any more of these. And if the wikireaders4kids campaign succeeds, all existing stock may vanish from the marketplace. So this may be your last opportunity to buy a WikiReader (although I expect used ones may be available for a long time). You can get them by pledging to that campaign, or for $14.99 on Amazon, or other places as mentioned at the bottom of this page: http://www.thewikireader.com/ I also see that new content has recently become available for the WikiReader: http://thewikireader.com/languagepacks.php I see that the codebase is still being actively updated: https://github.com/wikireader/wikireader I think it would be a shame if this beautiful machine really does go out of manufacture, never to be updated again. Wouldn't it be great if this design could be released as open hardware... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v55 for Freerunner upgraded to wheezy
Am 16.04.2013 14:35, schrieb Radek Polak: .. The wheezy images are now here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/qtmoko/files/GTA02/ Hallo, i installed the wheezy-Version 55 for GTA02 on a uSD-Card. Formatted as ext3, copyd the archiv and: $ tar xzvpf qtmoko-debian-gta02-v55.tar.gz After reboot everything seems OK. Then I connected with ssh and: $ apt-get update $ apt-get upgrade After the next reboot a endless loop dumps messages on the screen very fast. I had to take a Photo to read: udevd [659]: unable to receive ctrl connection: Function not implemented I repeated this with the same result. Now I'm going to format and untar again but without upgrade. What must be fixed before I can use upgrade again? -- Frank ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v55 for Freerunner upgraded to wheezy
Hello! I don't remember the solution, but there was already a discussion about that here : http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.community/63237 IIRC, udevd isn't relevant for GTA02 (but needed for GTA04) and so it can be deactivated. Regards, Adrien Le mercredi 22 mai 2013 à 11:00 +0200, Frank a écrit : Am 16.04.2013 14:35, schrieb Radek Polak: .. The wheezy images are now here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/qtmoko/files/GTA02/ Hallo, i installed the wheezy-Version 55 for GTA02 on a uSD-Card. Formatted as ext3, copyd the archiv and: $ tar xzvpf qtmoko-debian-gta02-v55.tar.gz After reboot everything seems OK. Then I connected with ssh and: $ apt-get update $ apt-get upgrade After the next reboot a endless loop dumps messages on the screen very fast. I had to take a Photo to read: udevd [659]: unable to receive ctrl connection: Function not implemented I repeated this with the same result. Now I'm going to format and untar again but without upgrade. What must be fixed before I can use upgrade again? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: US Distributors
[cut] I have an older USA model i can sell, i am looking for around 120 USD or 1 BTC. Say what? 1 BTC is worth 120 USD now? -- Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Fwd: [Community] LinuxTag Berlin starting tomorrow!
FYI because I think it could be interesting here as well Anfang der weitergeleiteten E-Mail: Hi all, this is a reminder that LinuxTag is starting tomorrow and OpenPhoenux has some participation. a) there is a Linux Embedded booth having some devices on display b) there is a big plenary talk on Thursday afternoon by Lukas Christoph http://www.linuxtag.org/2013/de/program/donnerstag-23-mai-2013.html?eventid=290 Please share this info - especially *outside* this community so that we get a lot of *new* people into the audience! Finally, I have still some free tickets to distribute. Please send me a private mail. BR, Nikolaus ___ Community mailing list commun...@openphoenux.org http://lists.goldelico.com/mailman/listinfo/community http://www.openphoenux.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: US Distributors
Last price:$122.74499 :-D On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 11:08 +0200, Patryk Benderz wrote: [cut] I have an older USA model i can sell, i am looking for around 120 USD or 1 BTC. Say what? 1 BTC is worth 120 USD now? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Interview of Jussi Hurmola, Jolla Mobile’s managing director - with a comment on Open Moko
Jolla news: At the core of Jolla is Sailfish, a mobile-optimized OS that has the flexibility of a unique, open platform. http://jolla.com/ https://join.jolla.com/en Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller писал 2012-07-25 19:21: http://www.ossimantylahti.com/2012/07/interview-of-jussi-hurmola-jolla-mobiles-managing-director/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Interview of Jussi Hurmola, Jolla Mobile’s managing director - with a comment on Open Moko
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Yury Sakarinen z...@onego.ru wrote: Jolla news: At the core of Jolla is Sailfish, a mobile-optimized OS that has the flexibility of a unique, open platform. One should mention, that open platform is a contrast to open source platform. For example, Apple Mac OS X and Microsoft Windows (non-RT) are open platforms. I'm still highly skeptical and don't believe we will see a Jolla phone running _as_ open source (frameworks, phone-stack, UI) but just _on_ open source (linux, wayland, qt). http://jolla.com/ https://join.jolla.com/en Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller писал 2012-07-25 19:21: http://www.ossimantylahti.com/2012/07/interview-of-jussi-hurmola-jolla-mobiles-managing-director/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Interview of Jussi Hurmola, Jolla Mobile’s managing director - with a comment on Open Moko
On Tue 21 May 2013 19:54:54 thomasg wrote: On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Yury Sakarinen z...@onego.ru wrote: Jolla news: At the core of Jolla is Sailfish, a mobile-optimized OS that has the flexibility of a unique, open platform. One should mention, that open platform is a contrast to open source platform. For example, Apple Mac OS X and Microsoft Windows (non-RT) are open platforms. I'm still highly skeptical and don't believe we will see a Jolla phone running _as_ open source (frameworks, phone-stack, UI) but just _on_ open source (linux, wayland, qt). Well, compare maemo, which btw is also a good irc channel to have a short chat on that topic. jolla is based on mer and nemo, and probably as open as maemo5 been *) (and still is). Or better, according to Carsten Munk aka stskeeps /j *) http://wiki.maemo.org/Why_the_closed_packages https://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_closed_packages -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
US Distributors
I am new to openmoko and looking to take the first step and buy a COTS open hardware stack. I browsed through this list: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributors * GP2X does not appear to have cell phones (from what I could see) and * SDG Systems products are way out of my price range Are there other recommended US distributors? Thank You, Joseph Armbruster ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: US Distributors
On 05/20/2013 06:23 PM, Joseph Armbruster wrote: I am new to openmoko and looking to take the first step and buy a COTS open hardware stack. I browsed through this list: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributors * GP2X does not appear to have cell phones (from what I could see) and * SDG Systems products are way out of my price range Are there other recommended US distributors? Thank You, Joseph Armbruster ___ Hi Joseph, I have an older USA model i can sell, i am looking for around 120 USD or 1 BTC. Let me know if you are interested. Kind regards, Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: I want to buy an openmoko smartphone.
Hi Alexey, Try one of the dealers listed on: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributors Kind regards, Ed On 05/19/13 07:23, Аlexey wrote: Sell me a gta device, please. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: I want to buy an openmoko smartphone.
The Neo FreeRunner is available in two versions, one for the GSM bands of North America (850/1800/1900 Mhz), and one for the GSM bands in the rest of the world (900/1800/1900 Mhz). I probably need 900/1800/1900 Mhz GSM band version because I'm in Russian Federation. On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 12:23:04PM +0700, fling wrote: Sell me a gta device, please. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
I want to buy an openmoko smartphone.
Sell me a gta device, please. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko dev : smooth scrollbar
Ok, I've just found some documentation on Nokia website : http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/Qt_Kinetic_scrolling_-_from_idea_to_implementation and fortunately we've Qt 4.8 (thanks Radek!) I didn't have time to read it, but I'll have time tomorrow. Adrien signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
well, i just hope Radek earned a lot for selling this domain ;) AFAIR the domain was owned by Fabio Alessandro. :) http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2012-August/067336.html -- Ranjit Pillai gnumen.org - Life Tech in subjective perspective(Project M) librelab.org - Place of convergence of Subjective Technology(Project EP) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 05:32:15 PM Patryk Benderz wrote: well, i just hope Radek earned a lot for selling this domain ;) The story is quite sad for me personally. I have spent thousand hours on the project. I was against registering qtmoko.org, but still people did it and i had no control of it. And everybody started using qtmoko.org instead of sourceforge url so it's first in google result list. Now there is some crap on the site and the qtmoko project looks dead because of it. I really had no single cent from qtmoko.org nor from whole qtmoko project... Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
Radek, again, thanks for all the hours you put in to it, it is really appreciated ! Kind regards, Ed On 05/16/2013 09:52 AM, Radek Polak wrote: On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 05:32:15 PM Patryk Benderz wrote: well, i just hope Radek earned a lot for selling this domain ;) The story is quite sad for me personally. I have spent thousand hours on the project. I was against registering qtmoko.org, but still people did it and i had no control of it. And everybody started using qtmoko.org instead of sourceforge url so it's first in google result list. Now there is some crap on the site and the qtmoko project looks dead because of it. I really had no single cent from qtmoko.org nor from whole qtmoko project... Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
On Thu 16 May 2013 09:52:33 Radek Polak wrote: On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 05:32:15 PM Patryk Benderz wrote: well, i just hope Radek earned a lot for selling this domain ;) The story is quite sad for me personally. I have spent thousand hours on the project. I was against registering qtmoko.org, but still people did it and i had no control of it. And everybody started using qtmoko.org instead of sourceforge url so it's first in google result list. Now there is some crap on the site and the qtmoko project looks dead because of it. I really had no single cent from qtmoko.org nor from whole qtmoko project... Regards Radek please everybody, don't navigate to that url qtmoko dot org - the site got hijacked by vigara/cisalis CHEAP! gangsters. Don't post the URL anywhere, and don't use any link to it showing up ib google search results for qtmoko! First instance Radek shouldn't have posted a link here in a public ML that gets indexed by google. Thanks! jOERG -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
QtMoko dev : smooth scrollbar
Hello! I've just found the qtmoko/doc/html/index.html file and I've seen that the really good scrollbar used in the mail application, application list, ... is the QSmoothList. As I found this scrollbar good, I want to know if you think that it's possible to generalize this scrollbar for other widgets like QScrollArea. Indeed I like the Arora web browser, but the scroll bar is really not adapted to finger scroll. I've made some tests and I've seen that's the relevant code is inside the event management. However, I've never made directly new qt widget so maybe it's impossible. Have you some hint ? Thanks, Adrien signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
[cut] And, there are also some connections. But I also received complaints about this duplication. Now I get your point - even this last single reason is enough to start new ML. Thank you for the explanation. So it is impossible to serve everybody equally well :) Unfortunately yes - as in most aspects of life... -- Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
[cut] Maqui Berry supplement is the latest discovery in medicine Oh really? Epic fail Radek ;) - I hope you have a backup of your web page. -- Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Patryk Benderz wrote: [cut] Maqui Berry supplement is the latest discovery in medicine Oh really? Epic fail Radek ;) - I hope you have a backup of your web page. QtMoko moved to sourceforge years ago: http://qtmoko.sourceforge.net/ -- bye, pabs http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
On 05/14/2013 06:37 PM, Patryk Benderz wrote: [cut] OpenPhoenux != OpenMoko. Rather =. I know, the same way: GTA02!=GTA01, rather GTA02GTA01, however it was (and is) successfully discussed here. It is similar with GTA04 which seems to be still discussed here. I know ML is already started and no one is going to revert it. Just for future reference and next phone model, I want to say, IMHO it was not necessary to start new ML. Of course you may have some reasons i do not see, which mak it sense... +1 -- ## giacomo 'giotti' mariani gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-key 0x99bfa859 O ASCII ribbon campaign: stop HTML mail www.asciiribbon.org ## ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
[cut] QtMoko moved to sourceforge years ago: Yes, I was referring to provided link http://qtmoko.org/ -- Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
On Wed, 15 May 2013 12:10:02 +0200 Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote: [cut] QtMoko moved to sourceforge years ago: Yes, I was referring to provided link http://qtmoko.org/ the poor maqui berry people must think they are about to get 100s of sales with all the website traffic ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
fairphone??
Give a look here: http://buy-a-phone-start-a-movement.fairphone.com/fairphone.html what do you think? urodelo -- 不要催我!你曾經問過梵谷畫很快嗎? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
[cut] the poor maqui berry people must think they are about to get 100s of sales with all the website traffic well, i just hope Radek earned a lot for selling this domain ;) -- Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: fairphone??
[cut] what do you think? AFAIR It was already posted and discussed here. It is cheaper than GTA04 - they must have invested money to order bigger batch of phones. Specifications looks nice. I still have my working phone, so will not order it. And even if I was looking for some phone, sadly I can't afford it :(. Even my company does not pay for smart phones more than 150-200 euro. -- Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
Sorry if I return in-topic :D How much space and time did it take to you to backup the wiki? And what about the official mailing list (what you think it will be like)? I want to do a personal backup of all we did in these years and I would like to know how I should face it. Thank you!! Matteo Il giorno 15/mag/2013 17:32, Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.pl ha scritto: [cut] the poor maqui berry people must think they are about to get 100s of sales with all the website traffic well, i just hope Radek earned a lot for selling this domain ;) -- Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: fairphone??
yep; i just wonder how can they keep the cost so low with 1500 preordes and fair working conditions, salary etc... who really checks the working conditions in congo or wherever they produce it? On Wed, 15 May 2013 17:38:05 +0200, Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote: [cut] what do you think? AFAIR It was already posted and discussed here. It is cheaper than GTA04 - they must have invested money to order bigger batch of phones. Specifications looks nice. I still have my working phone, so will not order it. And even if I was looking for some phone, sadly I can't afford it :(. Even my company does not pay for smart phones more than 150-200 euro. -- 不要催我!你曾經問過梵谷畫很快嗎? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: fairphone??
let's wait for first sales, if they are urodelo писал 2013-05-15 20:30: yep; i just wonder how can they keep the cost so low with 1500 preordes and fair working conditions, salary etc... who really checks the working conditions in congo or wherever they produce it? On Wed, 15 May 2013 17:38:05 +0200, Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote: [cut] what do you think? AFAIR It was already posted and discussed here. It is cheaper than GTA04 - they must have invested money to order bigger batch of phones. Specifications looks nice. I still have my working phone, so will not order it. And even if I was looking for some phone, sadly I can't afford it :(. Even my company does not pay for smart phones more than 150-200 euro. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
old input methods on qtmoko 55
Hello I've installed qtmoko v55 some days ago. Later I've tried to get back the old input methods as suggested in an old thread, by putting those .so files in /opt/qtmoko/plugins/inputmethods. The result is a freeze of qtmoko at boot, after getting the clock image on display. it stops there. Now i've deleted the .so files and it works again. Probably the don't work on v55. Anybody can confirm this? Workarounds? tnx urodelo -- 不要催我!你曾經問過梵谷畫很快嗎? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: fairphone??
Well, first you start with an existing phone design, where the production line is all tooled up, and you start with making sure the tantalum in the capacitors is only from conflict-free regions. That probably adds $2 per phone, and a whole lot of arm-twisting with suppliers (which is the really expensive part) On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 06:30:07PM +0200, urodelo wrote: yep; i just wonder how can they keep the cost so low with 1500 preordes and fair working conditions, salary etc... who really checks the working conditions in congo or wherever they produce it? On Wed, 15 May 2013 17:38:05 +0200, Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote: [cut] what do you think? AFAIR It was already posted and discussed here. It is cheaper than GTA04 - they must have invested money to order bigger batch of phones. Specifications looks nice. I still have my working phone, so will not order it. And even if I was looking for some phone, sadly I can't afford it :(. Even my company does not pay for smart phones more than 150-200 euro. -- 不要催我!你曾經問過梵谷畫很快嗎? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
Am 14.05.2013 um 02:24 schrieb Patrick Beck: Hello., i want to say thank you, too. It was a great time with my Freerunner. The first steps with a Smartphone. Openmoko is a great Project and i hope we get it continue with Openphoenux Yes, a continuation is what we all dream of. Please consider subscribing to the OpenPhoenux mailing list since important discussions are going on there. Openmoko was before his time and set new aspects to open source and open hardware. Thank you Sean, Harald and all related i not named here. Thank you that you have kept it alive for such a long time, even after the end of the GTA02 production! Nikolaus With kind regards Patrick Am 14.05.2013 06:30 schrieb Liz ed...@billiau.net: On Mon, 13 May 2013 19:17:33 +0200 Harald Welte lafo...@gnumonks.org wrote: Dear all, during the next weeks I'm going to move *.openmoko.org to a new much simplified infrastructure on one physical server, snip Thanks to Sean Moss-Pultz for paying for the server hosting until today out of his personal pocket. Regards, Harald Thanks Harald and Sean ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
Just an interim status update: The following services have been moved to the new machine now: * www.openmoko.org (http) * wiki.openmoko.org (http) * downloads.openmoko.org (http, ftp, rsync) * 3rdparty.downloads.openmoko.org (http) * svn.openmoko.org (http) * svnweb.openmoko.org (http) * git.openmoko.org (ssh, git, http) * admin-trac.openmoko.org (http) * webdesign.openmoko.org (http, was already defunct) I'm currently working on docs.openmoko.org. Once that is done, I'll probably leave everything for some time as-is waiting for fall-out. Later (next week or the week after) I'll continue with the remaining parts, which will most likely be the more difficult ones: * people.openmoko.org (ssh, http) * imap.openmoko.org (imap) * mail.openmoko.org (smtp) * lists.openmoko.org (mailman) But there will definitely be a heads-up before that happens. Regards, Harald -- - Harald Welte lafo...@gnumonks.org http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option. (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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great people great community... everything is great about it... learned and 'am still learning a lot from such a movement.. kudos to every effort and the continuation of this in the form of GTA04 BR On 5/14/13, Harald Welte lafo...@gnumonks.org wrote: Just an interim status update: The following services have been moved to the new machine now: * www.openmoko.org (http) * wiki.openmoko.org (http) * downloads.openmoko.org (http, ftp, rsync) * 3rdparty.downloads.openmoko.org (http) * svn.openmoko.org (http) * svnweb.openmoko.org (http) * git.openmoko.org (ssh, git, http) * admin-trac.openmoko.org (http) * webdesign.openmoko.org (http, was already defunct) I'm currently working on docs.openmoko.org. Once that is done, I'll probably leave everything for some time as-is waiting for fall-out. Later (next week or the week after) I'll continue with the remaining parts, which will most likely be the more difficult ones: * people.openmoko.org (ssh, http) * imap.openmoko.org (imap) * mail.openmoko.org (smtp) * lists.openmoko.org (mailman) But there will definitely be a heads-up before that happens. Regards, Harald -- - Harald Welte lafo...@gnumonks.org http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option. (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Ranjit Pillai gnumen.org - Life Tech in subjective perspective(Project M) librelab.org - Place of convergence of Subjective Technology(Project EP) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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[cut] Yes, a continuation is what we all dream of. Please consider subscribing to the OpenPhoenux mailing list Hi Nikolaus, I just do not get one thing... why you started new ML? Why don't you continue OpenPhoneux here? It was easier for You to write here, instead of forcing lots of people to subscribe to another ML. -- Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi Patryk, Am 14.05.2013 um 15:42 schrieb Patryk Benderz: [cut] Yes, a continuation is what we all dream of. Please consider subscribing to the OpenPhoenux mailing list Hi Nikolaus, I just do not get one thing... why you started new ML? Why don't you continue OpenPhoneux here? It was easier for You to write here, instead OpenPhoenux != OpenMoko. Rather =. of forcing lots of people to subscribe to another ML. It is an invitation to a list more suitable for future projects. Nobody is forced to go there. -- hns ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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[cut] OpenPhoenux != OpenMoko. Rather =. I know, the same way: GTA02!=GTA01, rather GTA02GTA01, however it was (and is) successfully discussed here. It is similar with GTA04 which seems to be still discussed here. I know ML is already started and no one is going to revert it. Just for future reference and next phone model, I want to say, IMHO it was not necessary to start new ML. Of course you may have some reasons i do not see, which mak it sense... -- Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Am 14.05.2013 um 18:37 schrieb Patryk Benderz: [cut] OpenPhoenux != OpenMoko. Rather =. I know, the same way: GTA02!=GTA01, rather GTA02GTA01, however it was (and is) successfully discussed here. It is similar with GTA04 which GTA01 and GTA02 (and the planned GTA03) were Openmoko devices. seems to be still discussed here. GTA04 was not and is not supported by Openmoko (except the openness which we really appreciate) and OpenPhoenux is also an independent initiative. Yes, GT04 can of course be discussed here, but its official lists are others. There are also Letux 7004 (tablet) and others which need a common home with GTA04 and I don't think they have much in common with GTA01 and GTA02 (except being ARM based and SHR / QtMoko capable). There was also some cross-posting in the past because GTA01GTA02 owners may also be interested about newer developments by the OpenPhoenux project. And, there are also some connections. But I also received complaints about this duplication. So it is impossible to serve everybody equally well :) -- hns ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Tuesday, May 14, 2013 03:42:21 PM Patryk Benderz wrote: [cut] Yes, a continuation is what we all dream of. Please consider subscribing to the OpenPhoenux mailing list Hi Nikolaus, I just do not get one thing... why you started new ML? Why don't you continue OpenPhoneux here? It was easier for You to write here, instead of forcing lots of people to subscribe to another ML. I think it's very important to have control over your project infrastructure. You can for example visit http://qtmoko.org/ - dont you want to have similar page on gta04.org? Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Re: QtMoko v55 for Freerunner upgraded to wheezy
On Sun, 12 May 2013 17:36:35 +0200, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: [...] Hi, is it configured properly? Make sure you have these values in /etc/default/gpsd: START_DAEMON=true DEVICES=/dev/ttySAC1 GPSD_OPTIONS=-b The config file is correct. I'll reinstall v55 from scratch to check if I did any other modifications that caused the problem. I'll file an issue on Github once I get to do it. Raphael -- Dipl.-Medieninf. Raphael Wimmer Wiss. Mitarbeiter / Research Assistant Doktorand / PhD student Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München E-Mail: raphael.wim...@ifi.lmu.de LFE Medieninformatik Skype: real_raphman Amalienstr. 17 / Raum 206WWW: http://www.medien.ifi.lmu.de 80333 MünchenTel:+49 (89) 2180-4659 Germany Fax:+49 (89) 2180-99-4659 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
Dear all, during the next weeks I'm going to move *.openmoko.org to a new much simplified infrastructure on one physical server, rather than a dozen of virtual machines over three physical machines. As part of that, there will be occasional outages, without any additional announcements. The IP addresses for all of openmoko.org services will also change as part of that process. I will start step-by-step with web/wiki/dcs/svn/trac/git/people/bugzilla, while e-mail and mailing lists will be running on the old machines until the very last step. So this (and other) mailing lists are going to work. I'll send another announcement before touching anything e-mail related. Once the move to the new server is completed, I will finalyl be able to do the long overdue step and accept other volunteers from the community for system administration. Thanks to Sean Moss-Pultz for paying for the server hosting until today out of his personal pocket. Regards, Harald -- - Harald Welte lafo...@gnumonks.org http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option. (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Thank you very much! I would have done a backup somehow as soon because I was afraid of losing all that knowledge! And thank you too Sean!! 2013/5/13 Harald Welte lafo...@gnumonks.org Dear all, during the next weeks I'm going to move *.openmoko.org to a new much simplified infrastructure on one physical server, rather than a dozen of virtual machines over three physical machines. As part of that, there will be occasional outages, without any additional announcements. The IP addresses for all of openmoko.org services will also change as part of that process. I will start step-by-step with web/wiki/dcs/svn/trac/git/people/bugzilla, while e-mail and mailing lists will be running on the old machines until the very last step. So this (and other) mailing lists are going to work. I'll send another announcement before touching anything e-mail related. Once the move to the new server is completed, I will finalyl be able to do the long overdue step and accept other volunteers from the community for system administration. Thanks to Sean Moss-Pultz for paying for the server hosting until today out of his personal pocket. Regards, Harald -- - Harald Welte lafo...@gnumonks.org http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option. (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Mon, 13 May 2013 20:24:12 +0200 matteo sanvito sanvym...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you very much! I would have done a backup somehow as soon because I was afraid of losing all that knowledge! And thank you too Sean!! +1 Matteo I'd like to add my thanks to Harald, Sean, and the rest of the people responsible for the wealth of information provided on the wiki, mailing lists, irc, etc. You made my Neo FR a very fun device to own and use. It doesn't get the same amount of use as it did a few years ago but it's still something I won't ever part with; like my 486DX2 I simply can't bear the thought of not having it around to play with. Before you condemn me for such a disparate example just remember that if it wasn't for lower level access to hardware back in the emergent and heady days of 'PC' hardware we'd be a lot worse off on the whole. OpenMoko and OpenPhoenux are prime examples of the spirit behind innovation even if some of it is constrained by NDAs at least the effort will always be there. B 2013/5/13 Harald Welte lafo...@gnumonks.org Dear all, during the next weeks I'm going to move *.openmoko.org to a new much simplified infrastructure on one physical server, rather than a dozen of virtual machines over three physical machines. As part of that, there will be occasional outages, without any additional announcements. The IP addresses for all of openmoko.org services will also change as part of that process. I will start step-by-step with web/wiki/dcs/svn/trac/git/people/bugzilla, while e-mail and mailing lists will be running on the old machines until the very last step. So this (and other) mailing lists are going to work. I'll send another announcement before touching anything e-mail related. Once the move to the new server is completed, I will finalyl be able to do the long overdue step and accept other volunteers from the community for system administration. Thanks to Sean Moss-Pultz for paying for the server hosting until today out of his personal pocket. Regards, Harald -- - Harald Welte lafo...@gnumonks.org http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option. (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
On Mon, 13 May 2013 19:17:33 +0200 Harald Welte lafo...@gnumonks.org wrote: Dear all, during the next weeks I'm going to move *.openmoko.org to a new much simplified infrastructure on one physical server, snip Thanks to Sean Moss-Pultz for paying for the server hosting until today out of his personal pocket. Regards, Harald Thanks Harald and Sean ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
Hello., i want to say thank you, too. It was a great time with my Freerunner. The first steps with a Smartphone. Openmoko is a great Project and i hope we get it continue with Openphoenux Openmoko was before his time and set new aspects to open source and open hardware. Thank you Sean, Harald and all related i not named here. With kind regards Patrick Am 14.05.2013 06:30 schrieb Liz ed...@billiau.net: On Mon, 13 May 2013 19:17:33 +0200 Harald Welte lafo...@gnumonks.org wrote: Dear all, during the next weeks I'm going to move *.openmoko.org to a new much simplified infrastructure on one physical server, snip Thanks to Sean Moss-Pultz for paying for the server hosting until today out of his personal pocket. Regards, Harald Thanks Harald and Sean ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v55 for Freerunner upgraded to wheezy
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 14:35:47 +0200, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote:
Hi,
i have now moved the experimental wheezy based qtmoko v55 to stable.
Just a heads-up for the next pure-wheezy version:
Upgrading gpsd from 2.95 (squeeze, and installed in v55) to 3.6 (wheezy)
results in gpsd no longer recognizing the GPS chip.
Not sure if this is an error on my side but:
I have installed v55 from the linked source. While playing around with
additional packages, I had to uninstall and reinstall gpsd.
At this point, apt chose the wheezy package for gpsd (3.6).
After the upgrade, QtPedometer, qtgps don't get any data. NeronGPS even
hangs when initializing the GPS chip.
Downgrading back to gpsd 2.95 fixes the problem.
with gpsd 2.95 - the DEVICE line appears after starting NeronGPS
root@neo:~# netcat localhost 2947
{class:VERSION,release:2.95,rev:2011-12-06T19:20:53,proto_major:3,proto_minor:3}
{class:DEVICE,path:/dev/ttySAC1,activated:1368350470.77,driver:Generic
NMEA,native:0,bps:9600,parity:N,stopbits:1,cycle:1.00}
and with gpsd 3.6:
root@neo:~# netcat localhost 2947
{class:VERSION,release:3.6,rev:3.6,proto_major:3,proto_minor:7}
[no DEVICE ever appears]
Btw: why does only NeronGPS show the number of visible satellites in the
status bar?
Best,
Raphael
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LFE Medieninformatik Skype: real_raphman
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Re: QtMoko v55 for Freerunner upgraded to wheezy
On Sunday, May 12, 2013 11:47:26 AM Raphael Wimmer wrote: On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 14:35:47 +0200, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: Hi, i have now moved the experimental wheezy based qtmoko v55 to stable. Just a heads-up for the next pure-wheezy version: Upgrading gpsd from 2.95 (squeeze, and installed in v55) to 3.6 (wheezy) results in gpsd no longer recognizing the GPS chip. Not sure if this is an error on my side but: I have installed v55 from the linked source. While playing around with additional packages, I had to uninstall and reinstall gpsd. At this point, apt chose the wheezy package for gpsd (3.6). After the upgrade, QtPedometer, qtgps don't get any data. NeronGPS even hangs when initializing the GPS chip. Downgrading back to gpsd 2.95 fixes the problem. with gpsd 2.95 - the DEVICE line appears after starting NeronGPS Raphael Hi, is it configured properly? Make sure you have these values in /etc/default/gpsd: START_DAEMON=true DEVICES=/dev/ttySAC1 GPSD_OPTIONS=-b Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] new version of FBReader with Qt4
On Tuesday, May 07, 2013 07:30:08 PM francesco.dev...@mailoo.org wrote: Hi There is a new version of Fbreader [1] and it now uses Qt4. Should it be easier to integrate in QtMoko now? Has someone tried it already? It is not yet in the Debian repositories but I wanted to give it a shot, so I downloaded the source code and I tried to compile it on my GTA02. Unfortunately it fails at some point with some errors related to the code, I think. I opened an issue on github here [2] but no answer yet. If you can take a look at the code, can you give me some suggestion? Thank you. Joif [1] http://fbreader.org/content/fbreader-beta-linux-desktop [2] https://github.com/geometer/FBReader/issues/236 Hi, i wonder which branch should i use for this beta... Anyways i have now also fixed FBReader sources used in QtMoko so that it compiles and runs on wheezy. I'll now try to figure out the problem when the application disappears after run. Regards Radek [1] https://github.com/radekp/FBReader/tree/qtmoko_hack ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Help to grow The Independent Mobile Tool Community!
Am 09.05.2013 um 10:57 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: I have also pushed this to Reddit: http://redd.it/1dzp8f So if you have an account, please discuss and push up. We have fallen on http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/ down to position #19 of #25 and may leave the front page soon... So please continue your activities. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] new version of FBReader with Qt4
On Friday, May 10, 2013 01:57:49 PM Radek Polak wrote: Anyways i have now also fixed FBReader sources used in QtMoko so that it compiles and runs on wheezy. I'll now try to figure out the problem when the application disappears after run. I tried this [1] and now FBReader looks ok. At least for me the problem with application disappearing is gone now and FBReader is again usable. The armel package is now updated and will rebuild armhf now. Regards Radek [1] https://github.com/radekp/FBReader/commit/a1d5e9b663f81c43232e44012730c44f94651f8f ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko videoplayer
On Thursday, May 09, 2013 04:50:48 PM robin wrote: hi, I try to watch some video on qtmoko using qmplayer but I only have audio. I tried h264, mpeg2, mpeg4, vp3 but always the same result: audio only the aspect ratio is standard 320x240 and I installed the glamo version of mplayer when being asked for the first time. in case I would need the other mplayer version, how could I revert? I think glamo is the best option - it works for me on fresh v55 wheezy install. Maybe the video is wrongly encoded? Can you try over ssh: . /opt/qtmoko/qpe.env mplayer /path/to/video.mp4 if that prints anything useful? Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko videoplayer
if I run via ssh -X everything is fine (the output is pasted below)
if I run via qmplayer I get only the sound but no video (instead about
a quarter of the background image is displayed).
here is the output from the
ssh -X
is there a way I can get the output from qmplayer?
root@neo:~# /opt/qtmoko/qpe.env
root@neo:~# mplayer /media/card/Ch2_TaijiBailongBall_DVD2010_h264_mp3.mkv
MPlayer svn r34540 (Debian), built with gcc-4.6 (C) 2000-2012 MPlayer Team
mplayer: could not connect to socket
mplayer: No such file or directory
Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control.
Playing /media/card/Ch2_TaijiBailongBall_DVD2010_h264_mp3.mkv.
libavformat version 53.21.1 (external)
Mismatching header version 53.19.0
libavformat file format detected.
[matroska,webm @ 0x40c4c558]Estimating duration from bitrate, this may be
inaccurate
[lavf] stream 0: video (h264), -vid 0
[lavf] stream 1: audio (mp3), -aid 0
VIDEO: [H264] 320x240 0bpp 29.970 fps0.0 kbps ( 0.0 kbyte/s)
Load subtitles in /media/card/
vo: couldn't open the X11 display ()!
vo: couldn't open the X11 display ()!
vo: couldn't open the X11 display ()!
VO XOverlay need a subdriver
[VO_SDL] SDL initialization failed: Unable to open mouse.
vo: couldn't open the X11 display ()!
vo: couldn't open the X11 display ()!
vo: couldn't open the X11 display ()!
notice: Can't open /dev/tty: No such device or address
==
Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family
libavcodec version 53.35.0 (external)
Mismatching header version 53.32.2
Selected video codec: [ffh264] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg H.264)
==
==
Requested audio codec family [mpg123] (afm=mpg123) not available.
Enable it at compilation.
Opening audio decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg/libavcodec audio decoders
AUDIO: 48000 Hz, 1 ch, floatle, 128.0 kbit/8.33% (ratio: 16000-192000)
Selected audio codec: [ffmp3float] afm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg MPEG layer-3 audio)
==
AO: [pulse] Init failed: Connection refused
Failed to initialize audio driver 'pulse'
AO: [alsa] 48000Hz 1ch floatle (4 bytes per sample)
Starting playback...
Unsupported PixelFormat 61
Unsupported PixelFormat 53
Unsupported PixelFormat 81
Could not find matching colorspace - retrying with -vf scale...
Opening video filter: [scale]
Movie-Aspect is 1.33:1 - prescaling to correct movie aspect.
[swscaler @ 0x40b6b978]No accelerated colorspace conversion found from
yuv420p to rgb565le.
[swscaler @ 0x40b6b978]using unscaled yuv420p - rgb565le special converter
VO: [fbdev] 320x240 = 320x240 BGR 16-bit
A: 3.7 V: 1.7 A-V: 2.040 ct: 0.033 0/ 0 54% 87% 88.2% 50 0
Your system is too SLOW to play this!
Possible reasons, problems, workarounds:
- Most common: broken/buggy _audio_ driver
- Try -ao sdl or use the OSS emulation of ALSA.
- Experiment with different values for -autosync, 30 is a good start.
- Slow video output
- Try a different -vo driver (-vo help for a list) or try -framedrop!
- Slow CPU
- Don't try to play a big DVD/DivX on a slow CPU! Try some of the lavdopts,
e.g. -vfm ffmpeg -lavdopts lowres=1:fast:skiploopfilter=all.
- Broken file
- Try various combinations of -nobps -ni -forceidx -mc 0.
- Slow media (NFS/SMB mounts, DVD, VCD etc)
- Try -cache 8192.
- Are you using -cache to play a non-interleaved AVI file?
- Try -nocache.
Read DOCS/HTML/en/video.html for tuning/speedup tips.
If none of this helps you, read DOCS/HTML/en/bugreports.html.
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Re: Help to grow The Independent Mobile Tool Community!
An active membership on mainstream social networks could help, as well as second choices (b...) like identi.ca, plurk and diaspora... This can maybe look naif, but this adds more visibility, especially if the accounts are supported by an attractive website, imho. Just owning a microblogging account where to share the content of the webpages allows a better rank in the search engines and therefore more visitors, but you all know this already. We should use all the ways we can to spread the voice of the community. Another thing is that in my opinion we should have a better management of the resources (especially human resources). Actually we all know that there are just few of the community who are involved in the development, for many different reasons. If we could better coordinate, manage the (sub)project, like qtmoko, shr, firmware dev, news publishing, social networking, etc, we could probably be more efficient and also involved. Probably many of us doesn't have the technical skill to contribute to sw development or build an electronic schema, but maybe are able to run an OFFICIAL account on diaspora or an OFFICIAL blog. I say official because in my opinion we (community) need more referring points, for us and for the new potential users, even at coast of being repetitive; we know that some on internet just use one kind of social network, others hate them and just want to read news on blogs and web portals, and so on. Honestly, I've always seen the lack of a press office here... it's not fault of anybody and surely this task can't be assigned always to the same people... but imho we really need a better publishing system for the community and its news regards urodelo On Wed, 08 May 2013 16:07:26 +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: Hi all, today I would like to ask you to help to grow the OpenPhoenux Independent Mobile Tool Community. Why do we need to grow the community? We need many more active members contributing in all aspects of such a project. We need developers, maintainers, testers, people discussing new ideas, writing blogs, writing comments, going to fairs, making presentations, running servers, teaching and convincing others that we are doing something useful. And we need more people interested in our software and hardware or we will remain a side note of history. Finally we can't get new members by waiting for them to come by chance. What is this community about? There has been a long discussion recently about next generation OpenPhoenux devices and I got a lot of valuable inputs indicating that we even need a broader view, so that I now feel that I am able to write down what this community is about. And very important: what makes it different from other human activities! This is important because any new prospective community member will ask you and I hope that my proposals are the right answers to their questions and make them join our community. Most of us have origins in the OpenMoko community. OpenMoko did appear in Nov 2006 as the attempt to provide the first really open Linux portable computer with telephony functions. At that time this idea was very new - it was announced 2 months before the iPhone 1 - and did catch a lot of attention. In the meantime the world has changed a lot. iPhone comes with an Appstore which has revolutionized the way independent software developers work. Google has established Android and the whole smartphone industry has got to speed to provide cheap (and some crap) devices with Android. Facebook has appeared and also tries to get their-selves onto the Home screen of smartphones. Smartphones have developed into tablets and phablets. Combined with the millions of Apps, that are mini-browsers for specific tasks, this is more or less the opposite what the personal computer idea combined with a world wide web of connected computers was. In that model everyone did have control over the data that was published. This means that neither the device hardware nor the software and the services provided by the network are the most important. I.e. we must see all three (HW, SW, Services) as parts of a complete OpenPhoenux system. If we look at what the big players are doing, it can be summarised as: they fight to capture the user. They want to bring back the mainframe concept (logically centralised services + dumb terminals) and use that to provide walled (zoological?) gardens where the user does no longer have any ownership of the data. They can even find out things about us we don't know ourselves (at least we are not aware of). So everything is about incapacitating the users like the Borg does. Apparently half of the world population is happily accepting this, because the devices are cheap, the software is glamourously polished. And the services are apparently useful. And because the neighbour also has it. Like a mouse in an experiment. And we
Re: Help to grow The Independent Mobile Tool Community!
Am 10.05.2013 um 17:06 schrieb urodelo: An active membership on mainstream social networks could help, as well as second choices (b...) like identi.ca, plurk and diaspora... This can maybe look naif, but this adds more visibility, especially if the accounts are supported by an attractive website, imho. Just owning a microblogging account where to share the content of the webpages allows a better rank in the search engines and therefore more visitors, but you all know this already. We should use all the ways we can to spread the voice of the community. Another thing is that in my opinion we should have a better management of the resources (especially human resources). Actually we all know that there are just few of the community who are involved in the development, for many different reasons. If we could better coordinate, manage the (sub)project, like qtmoko, shr, firmware dev, news publishing, social networking, etc, we could probably be more efficient and also involved. Probably many of us doesn't have the technical skill to contribute to sw development or build an We might start a list on the OpenPhoenux wiki (http://projects.goldelico.com/p/openphoenux/doc/) to collect people and their skills and what they want to contribute. electronic schema, but maybe are able to run an OFFICIAL account on diaspora or an OFFICIAL blog. I say official because in my opinion we (community) need more referring points, for us and for the new potential users, even at coast of being repetitive; we know that some on internet just use one kind of social network, others hate them and just want to read news on blogs and web portals, and so on. Honestly, I've always seen the lack of a press office here... it's not fault of anybody and surely this task can't be assigned always to the same people... but imho we really need a better publishing system for the community and its news Yes, that is definitively missing. regards urodelo On Wed, 08 May 2013 16:07:26 +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: Hi all, today I would like to ask you to help to grow the OpenPhoenux Independent Mobile Tool Community. Why do we need to grow the community? We need many more active members contributing in all aspects of such a project. We need developers, maintainers, testers, people discussing new ideas, writing blogs, writing comments, going to fairs, making presentations, running servers, teaching and convincing others that we are doing something useful. And we need more people interested in our software and hardware or we will remain a side note of history. Finally we can't get new members by waiting for them to come by chance. What is this community about? There has been a long discussion recently about next generation OpenPhoenux devices and I got a lot of valuable inputs indicating that we even need a broader view, so that I now feel that I am able to write down what this community is about. And very important: what makes it different from other human activities! This is important because any new prospective community member will ask you and I hope that my proposals are the right answers to their questions and make them join our community. Most of us have origins in the OpenMoko community. OpenMoko did appear in Nov 2006 as the attempt to provide the first really open Linux portable computer with telephony functions. At that time this idea was very new - it was announced 2 months before the iPhone 1 - and did catch a lot of attention. In the meantime the world has changed a lot. iPhone comes with an Appstore which has revolutionized the way independent software developers work. Google has established Android and the whole smartphone industry has got to speed to provide cheap (and some crap) devices with Android. Facebook has appeared and also tries to get their-selves onto the Home screen of smartphones. Smartphones have developed into tablets and phablets. Combined with the millions of Apps, that are mini-browsers for specific tasks, this is more or less the opposite what the personal computer idea combined with a world wide web of connected computers was. In that model everyone did have control over the data that was published. This means that neither the device hardware nor the software and the services provided by the network are the most important. I.e. we must see all three (HW, SW, Services) as parts of a complete OpenPhoenux system. If we look at what the big players are doing, it can be summarised as: they fight to capture the user. They want to bring back the mainframe concept (logically centralised services + dumb terminals) and use that to provide walled (zoological?) gardens where the user does no longer have any ownership of the data. They can even find out things about us we don't know ourselves (at least we are not aware of). So everything is about
Re: Help to grow The Independent Mobile Tool Community!
this is indeed well said, but also points out how feeble mankind is ... the problem I see is even if you can convince someone that this is the only strategy to follow, they won't be able to buy a device at a price they are willing to accept (even when they are told that production in small numbers is the cause of this). my guess is that for phone to be a success it would at least need the standard basic features such as pinch zooming, easy wifi connection, and a good browser. writing a text message currently needs three click to get you to the input screen and another six clicks until you can actually send it after you have entered your content. I am using the freerunner since 2008 and am still convinced with the gta04 the community has come a great step forward, but the rest of the electronic world is developing so fast that it seems almost impossible to keep up (especially with the high costs due to the small demand). personally I think only fundraiser, maybe with a big partner, would work to get it down to a price where the every day user would be willing to switch and maybe qtmoko/shr could somehow bundle up with the plasma active team to have nice and shiny features at hand which make the phone stick out. nevertheless many thanks for bringing this project so far! it certainly already has one of the best communities (eg rhn organized a 3g stick for me in Poland without even knowing me more than from a couple of posts on the mailinglist. who else can report such a thing from his/her community) br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Help to grow The Independent Mobile Tool Community!
I have also pushed this to Reddit: http://redd.it/1dzp8f So if you have an account, please discuss and push up. Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Help to grow The Independent Mobile Tool Community!
Am 09.05.2013 um 10:13 schrieb robin: this is indeed well said, but also points out how feeble mankind is ... the problem I see is even if you can convince someone that this is the only strategy to follow, they won't be able to buy a device at a price they are willing to accept (even when they are told that production in Don't worry about price and features. The more are convinced to become independent the easier it is to solve technical problems and everybody will become happy. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
qtmoko videoplayer
hi, I try to watch some video on qtmoko using qmplayer but I only have audio. I tried h264, mpeg2, mpeg4, vp3 but always the same result: audio only the aspect ratio is standard 320x240 and I installed the glamo version of mplayer when being asked for the first time. in case I would need the other mplayer version, how could I revert? best regards rboin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko videoplayer
what actually works: ssh -X root@192.168.0.202 mplayer movie.mvk this results in the movie being played on the freerunner screen. Apparently also other sizes and aspect ratios than 320x240 work fine. any help appreciated to get this working with a native qtmoko app. robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Help to grow The Independent Mobile Tool Community!
Hi all, today I would like to ask you to help to grow the OpenPhoenux Independent Mobile Tool Community. Why do we need to grow the community? We need many more active members contributing in all aspects of such a project. We need developers, maintainers, testers, people discussing new ideas, writing blogs, writing comments, going to fairs, making presentations, running servers, teaching and convincing others that we are doing something useful. And we need more people interested in our software and hardware or we will remain a side note of history. Finally we can't get new members by waiting for them to come by chance. What is this community about? There has been a long discussion recently about next generation OpenPhoenux devices and I got a lot of valuable inputs indicating that we even need a broader view, so that I now feel that I am able to write down what this community is about. And very important: what makes it different from other human activities! This is important because any new prospective community member will ask you and I hope that my proposals are the right answers to their questions and make them join our community. Most of us have origins in the OpenMoko community. OpenMoko did appear in Nov 2006 as the attempt to provide the first really open Linux portable computer with telephony functions. At that time this idea was very new - it was announced 2 months before the iPhone 1 - and did catch a lot of attention. In the meantime the world has changed a lot. iPhone comes with an Appstore which has revolutionized the way independent software developers work. Google has established Android and the whole smartphone industry has got to speed to provide cheap (and some crap) devices with Android. Facebook has appeared and also tries to get their-selves onto the Home screen of smartphones. Smartphones have developed into tablets and phablets. Combined with the millions of Apps, that are mini-browsers for specific tasks, this is more or less the opposite what the personal computer idea combined with a world wide web of connected computers was. In that model everyone did have control over the data that was published. This means that neither the device hardware nor the software and the services provided by the network are the most important. I.e. we must see all three (HW, SW, Services) as parts of a complete OpenPhoenux system. If we look at what the big players are doing, it can be summarised as: they fight to capture the user. They want to bring back the mainframe concept (logically centralised services + dumb terminals) and use that to provide walled (zoological?) gardens where the user does no longer have any ownership of the data. They can even find out things about us we don't know ourselves (at least we are not aware of). So everything is about incapacitating the users like the Borg does. Apparently half of the world population is happily accepting this, because the devices are cheap, the software is glamourously polished. And the services are apparently useful. And because the neighbour also has it. Like a mouse in an experiment. And we should not forget why devices are so cheap for us. On one hand they are made in biggest numbers. But their production is not always based on fair labour conditions. Sometimes they are subsidized to get more users into the trap. Like free cheese for the mouse... Fortunately, not everyone is accepting to be controlled by a handful of big players, that are pumped up with stock exchange money to a level more valuable than some smaller states. They want to remain individuals and don't want to become part of a big machinery with the sole purpose of making the shareholders happy. And are willing to accept that a community developed device or software can be as ultimatively polished and devices may be more expensive to produce. This is IMHO the dream of the OpenPhoenux community and everyone sharing this view is welcome! Fortunately we have almost all components in our hands to be really independent of such big players: * Software/GUI: SHR and QtMoko and Replicant * Electronics: GTA01, GT02, GTA04, GTA0x (if enough demand) * Mechanics: 3D printing, wood, aluminium * Services: www.openphoenux.org could host many additional services (e.g. Diaspora, friendica) or support ideas like limesco What OpenPhoenux stands for: * participation by everyone * extensible hard- and software - DIY * allows to inspect what the system is doing (as far as achievable) * can be repaired using standard parts (as good as possible) * long-term support (e.g. software upgrades for an 2007 Neo 1973) * no planned obsolescence through open hard- and software * no central, intransparent, stock exchange listed instance that gives directions * hardware development and production near to users (Europe) under fair labour conditions * independent from the modern mainframe and back to the networked, decentralized web * everybody plays client and server roles and keeps
Re: Help to grow The Independent Mobile Tool Community!
[cut] apparently useful. And because the neighbour also has it. Like a mouse in an experiment. ...so sad... and so true. This is well thought text - will be great help in discussions. Especially for me - I often need to defend our opinion when discussing with my friends. Sadly I notice most of them do not care about their privacy and most of your arguments will not convince them as long as they can have cheap device with eye-candy looking software. -- Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Help to grow The Independent Mobile Tool Community!
Hi Patryk, Am 08.05.2013 um 17:34 schrieb Patryk Benderz: [cut] apparently useful. And because the neighbour also has it. Like a mouse in an experiment. ...so sad... and so true. This is well thought text - will be great help in discussions. Especially for me - I often need to defend our opinion when discussing with my friends. Sadly I notice most of them do not care about their privacy and most of your arguments will not convince them as long as they can have cheap device with eye-candy looking software. Well, we can't change and convince everybody immediately. It is a long term process - and we are not the only ones who have to and will work on it. But if we just convince 0,01% of world population, that alone would be 700 000 community members. Instead of a handful :) That looks as a much better perspective, doesn't it? BR, Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Help to grow The Independent Mobile Tool Community!
Le mercredi 08 mai 2013 à 17:34 +0200, Patryk Benderz a écrit : [cut] apparently useful. And because the neighbour also has it. Like a mouse in an experiment. ...so sad... and so true. This is well thought text - will be great help in discussions. Especially for me - I often need to defend our opinion when discussing with my friends. Sadly I notice most of them do not care about their privacy and most of your arguments will not convince them as long as they can have cheap device with eye-candy looking software. Yeah, I'm in the same situation, but I think this text explain very well the big issue about privacy/low cost/... I'll try to use the development of this text next time I'll have to defend my big strange phone. I want to stress that in my pyrotechnical school, the form factor has the advantage to intrigue my mats and generally I can begin an explanation about why I've a such device and when it was started. Thanks, Adrien signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Help to grow The Independent Mobile Tool Community!
[cut] Yeah, I'm in the same situation, but I think this text explain very well the big issue about privacy/low cost/... That is the point! We have to find best privacy/low cost ratio! That could be openphonux winning strategy. And provided that most people in any society is not wealthy or even poor, than I would say that low cost is even more important than polished interface for most people. -- Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
