Re: Yet Another OpenMoko Presentation
Don't worry I have made a more generic openmoko presentation here. Spanish/English opd/pdf aviable http://www.openmoko-spain.org/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=3 El lun, 17-11-2008 a las 00:11 +, Tim Dobson escribió: David Samblas wrote: El sáb, 08-11-2008 a las 12:38 +0100, David Samblas escribió: Count with an Spanish translation in short too :) I want to use it in more general presentation of openmoko not FDOM focused, Can I make a smooth version regarding other distributions... you have been ummh eemmhh a little mh rough? When I get some more free time, I'll see what I can do. originally it was used for an event where other people were presenting the different distributions (and in their cases saying why it wasn't their main phone) so in context it didn't look so harsh on them but I do take your point. At the moment (always actually) my life is really busy, and I can't see when I will have time, but when I will do my best :) tim -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400 Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
And one more presentation to the list
Hi all here http://www.openmoko-spain.org/files/presentacion_neo-freerunner_openmoko-spainv5_english.odp http://www.openmoko-spain.org/files/presentacion_neo-freerunner_openmoko-spainv5_english.pdf you will find a quick and dirty english translation of the presentation done last Friday in Universidad Carlos III de Madrid anfitrions will release a video in short, as soon as it's release I will post it on the list too. Here there is a draft article where you will find the original spanish presentation. http://www.openmoko-spain.org/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=3 Best regards -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400 Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] SHR image released
Downloading the preview right now I will try to test it tomorrow thank you guys :) El jue, 13-11-2008 a las 01:08 +0100, Julien Cassignol escribió: The SHR image was NOT released. This is a preview only, we didn't release it yet because we feel it's not complete enough for a day to day usage basis. There's also some issues with frameworkd (even MS4, sad to say), which we would like to settle before any official release. We would also like to build a graceful failure feature to avoid lots of complaining about my contacts app crashed ! just because the sim PIN wasn't registered yet :-). I use it on a day to day basis myself, it's quite stable, and I'm enjoying it, but please do not consider this as a release. This isn't. It's merely a preview. -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400 Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko chronology
El lun, 10-11-2008 a las 10:39 +0100, Minh Ha Duong escribió: Hi, I think openmoko-the-project was founded not by FIC but by a core team comprising a handfull of german devs (Sean, I guess Harald, and others but the The original core team page was deleted from the wiki on Sep. 2, 2008). You could try to contact one of them for a 10mn phone interview. That's why I put the draft of the chrono, to fix any mistake ;) , until new order I will omit any FIC refrence If I may suggest an angle for your story, beyond listing software releases (btw I would not count Qi in yet), what I find most fascinating is how a small player can live and prosper in the middle of well entrenched giants. They/we are heading straight towards Apple and Microsoft marketspace, on the shoulders of FIC, with Nokia and Swisscom pushing to help, and Google playing the game with a hidden hand too. Well this crono y for presentation very introductory oriented, to make the propoject known to also GNU/Linux public, you orientation is more for a market/business oportunity one, and maybe is a little to preach to already converted ;) But yes this part of Openmoko story is pretty interesting and must be telled. I will try to work on this later. Otherwise don't miss the Dash Express deal: http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/02/dash-express-powered-by-openmokos-neo-open-source-hardware-plat/ my guess is that was a key early success to the company. Ok I will add it. I also expect the significance of the Koolu deal to be clearer before the end of the year (they must be NDAed to the ears), so if you have a 'future' section in your talk, don't forget them. I like the NDAed to the ears expresion :) Minh David ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Openmoko cronology
I want to do a presentation for next friday and one of the point I want to reflex is the quick evolution of the Openmoko project but I realize there is no place with a clear cronologie so I will try to post things I have found spreaded in wiki, press releases and over the web to try to have some kind of time line. ? 2006 Openmoko was anounced by his founder FIC Nov 2006 Openmoko annouce the Neo1973 Jul 2007 Neo1973 out to the real world Jan 2008 Openmoko announce the Neo FreeRunner Feb 2008 Last Neo1973 sold from Openmoko Jun 2008 Neo FreeRunner Hits the real world Jul 2008 FSO milestone 2 Aug 2008 OM2008.8, Debian on Freerunner, Qtopia 4.3.2, Schematics published Sep 2008 FSO milestone 3, FDOM, NeoTool, Gentoo, Gestures, Remoko,Numptyphisycs Oct 2008 Qt Extended 4.4.1, OM2008.9, http://opkg.org, more than 7 web browsers, rasteman illume images,QI,Duke3d, Pingus Nov 2008 Android beta image, FDOMizer, QT EXtended 4.4.2, Doom Help will be apreciated I want to matain it as simple as posible to presentetation but a more detailed on in the wiki will be awesome to have ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Yet Another OpenMoko Presentation
Count with an Spanish translation in short too :) El sáb, 08-11-2008 a las 01:34 +, Tim Dobson escribió: Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: I will try to make a pt_PT translation. Done! While there isn't a wiki page, it's at: http://blog.1407.org/2008/11/08/apresentacao-sobre-o-openmoko/ Wow! This has really made my day! :D Thank you, I feel honoured that you thought it was worth translating! Tim P.S. I added your translation to http://files.tdobson.net/openmoko/freerunner/presentation/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Yet Another OpenMoko Presentation
El sáb, 08-11-2008 a las 12:38 +0100, David Samblas escribió: Count with an Spanish translation in short too :) I want to use it in more general presentation of openmoko not FDOM focused, Can I make a smooth version regarding other distributions... you have been ummh eemmhh a little mh rough? :) Regards El sáb, 08-11-2008 a las 01:34 +, Tim Dobson escribió: Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: I will try to make a pt_PT translation. Done! While there isn't a wiki page, it's at: http://blog.1407.org/2008/11/08/apresentacao-sobre-o-openmoko/ Wow! This has really made my day! :D Thank you, I feel honoured that you thought it was worth translating! Tim P.S. I added your translation to http://files.tdobson.net/openmoko/freerunner/presentation/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400 Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] Answer calll problems
El jue, 06-11-2008 a las 15:46 -0800, Gothnet escribió: Well colour me impressed. I've had a play with android on the Freerunner and (no disrespect to the openmoko guys) it's renewed my faith that the device will some day be useable as a phone. To increase a little more your believes , imagine you can have the best of the two worlds, as Rasterman has said before is possible to have in future(and seeing the rhythm this community works, in near future) android+gtk+java+qt+e17 apps living peacefully together in this little device. Managed to get it running, import contacts from the SIM and make calls, with acceptable volume and none of the echo that the OM distros suffered from. There's a lot that's not working (receive calls for instance) but this looks really good guys. Kudos and thanks. -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400 Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
El mar, 04-11-2008 a las 15:48 +0100, Cédric Berger escribió: On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 15:43, Eildert Groeneveld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 04 November 2008, Denis Galvão wrote: Could you send us your u-boot version? its todays download from the daily build: gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin 04-Nov-2008 01:46 211K Mine (working ok) was 23 sept. (And I am updating to latest now) Note that I just tried booting from NOR u-boot and it goes to black screen. Still no luck here :( from http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/ dfu-util 04-Nov-2008 01:46 gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin 04-Nov-2008 01:46 from http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/ androidfs.jffs2 04-Nov-2008 12:05 uImage-android 04-Nov-2008 12:13 tested with all uSD and sim combination possible please try to upload this working u-boot image anywhere let me know if you need a place. -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400 Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android]Android open sourced
confirmed was the uSD without ext3 partition issue Now I see the two robots on boot. first boot just after I put the pin code it sudenly shuttdown but looks cool thath red leed on the power button :) second boot it doen't recongnice my pin code twice and suddenly shutdown again well is first image :) at least it boots :) Regards David Samblas -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400 Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android]Android open sourced
El mar, 04-11-2008 a las 14:48 -0200, Denis Galvão escribió: What you did with the uSD? Just created an ext3 partition? Nothing more? Yes so simply that hurts :) -- Denis Galvão Ast eriskBrasil.org Ajude a comunidade AsteriskBrasil.org, compre uma camiseta! http://www.voipmania.com.br On 04/11/2008, at 14:39, David Samblas wrote: confirmed was the uSD without ext3 partition issue Now I see the two robots on boot. first boot just after I put the pin code it sudenly shuttdown but looks cool thath red leed on the power button :) second boot it doen't recongnice my pin code twice and suddenly shutdown again well is first image :) at least it boots :) Regards David Samblas -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400 Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
El mar, 04-11-2008 a las 04:46 -0800, Hire escribió: Cédric Berger wrote: On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 16:58, Martin Vyšný [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Port done. Somebody build the images! :-) http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/7be8ec2e4dae9fd6# http://benno.id.au/images/android_on_neo1973.jpg http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3 Ok, thanks to Sean first image is online ! http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community On a FR doesn't work, I see only a black screen. After more than 6 mins I can confirm that only a black screen appears :( I know google was minimalistic but this is al little bit exagerated :), just kidding :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
El mar, 04-11-2008 a las 13:33 +0100, Cédric Berger escribió: On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 16:58, Martin Vyšný [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Port done. Somebody build the images! :-) http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/7be8ec2e4dae9fd6# http://benno.id.au/images/android_on_neo1973.jpg http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3 Ok, thanks to Sean first image is online ! http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3 NAND on fire! I'm already flashing right now :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DOOM For Neo Freerunner / 1973
El dom, 02-11-2008 a las 01:13 -0700, SCarlson escribió: Good evening everyone. I'd like to introduce the DOOM port I've been working on. Here's the http://unsyncopated.com/BrainSolvent/Doom% 20Port wiki , where you will find some documentation and videos. Here is the http://opendoom.googlecode.com/files/opendoom_0.1_armv4t.ipk ipkg file. I've implemented a full touch screen only interface for you Neo 1973 guys out there! Please see Finger-Tippng on wiki. (There is also a video demo). And of course I can't forget the rest of us who have a sense of gravity! (Yes, you can strafe). Drop me a line if you want to get a multi-player game fired up. I'd like to test the network play over wifi. Enjoy! -Scott R Carlson Really really good job :) I ashamed but I always was a cheater in this game, How I do activate Inmunity mode, Infinite ammo etc etc? Sorry this was the only way I survive more than 10 seconds shooter games ;) -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400 Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GNUboy-port: input method
snip El dom, 02-11-2008 a las 16:58 +0100, Thomas Bertani escribió: good job for the keyboard but the port was already done by me some weeks ago: check on the mailing list 2008/11/2 Pieter Colpaert [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I did this on the gta01, so I don't know if this is going to work on the freerunner: I've made a small script so you can play any gameboy (color) game you'd like. snip Thomas, Pieter, Any chance of using ilumme keyboard on this?, I can be easy to define a GNUboy keyboard but I find no way to show at same time as gnuboy Regards -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400 Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
El dom, 02-11-2008 a las 17:42 +0100, Franky Van Liedekerke escribió: On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 16:58:58 +0100 Martin Vyšný [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 16:55 -0400, Jim Ancona wrote: Peter Neubauer wrote: Thanks for the fast reply, will keep an eye on that! Some more links: Ben Leslie's blog: http://benno.id.au/blog/ Google's android-porting mailing list: http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting Jim Port done. Somebody build the images! :-) http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/7be8ec2e4dae9fd6# http://benno.id.au/images/android_on_neo1973.jpg http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3 vyzivus Is the koolu version any different or not? I'm looking at the screens on http://koolu.com/ and it seems cool ... Franky Waiting for that image to be published too :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DOOM For Neo Freerunner / 1973
El dom, 02-11-2008 a las 16:13 -0800, SCarlson escribió: David, I am looking into just exposing the cheats as booleans in the CFG file. This will take me a few days to get around to it. For the time being you could go usb keyboard? Then save a game (doesn't it remember?) I will have to googling a bit to remember, Some time have passed since I was a Doom teenage junkie :) I happy to see you have thought on cheaters too ;) Speaking of saved games, I will be slapping in a time/date stamped save game names, (since we can't type in our own!) good idea :) Scott David Samblas Martinez wrote: El dom, 02-11-2008 a las 01:13 -0700, SCarlson escribió: Good evening everyone. I'd like to introduce the DOOM port I've been working on. Here's the http://unsyncopated.com/BrainSolvent/Doom% 20Port wiki , where you will find some documentation and videos. Here is the http://opendoom.googlecode.com/files/opendoom_0.1_armv4t.ipk ipkg file. I've implemented a full touch screen only interface for you Neo 1973 guys out there! Please see Finger-Tippng on wiki. (There is also a video demo). And of course I can't forget the rest of us who have a sense of gravity! (Yes, you can strafe). Drop me a line if you want to get a multi-player game fired up. I'd like to test the network play over wifi. Enjoy! -Scott R Carlson Really really good job :) I ashamed but I always was a cheater in this game, How I do activate Inmunity mode, Infinite ammo etc etc? Sorry this was the only way I survive more than 10 seconds shooter games ;) -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400 Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
not yet El lun, 03-11-2008 a las 08:35 +0100, Leonti Bielski escribió: What about the input method? Does it have a virtual keyboard of some kind? Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400 Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New home for the New FDOM
Please send it to me and I will upload it, :) El jue, 30-10-2008 a las 11:07 +, Vasco Névoa escribió: I've also tried FDOMizer yesterday, and I had to patch it by hand in a few cases. Mainly, I had to update a few download links from angstrom-distribution.org . Citando Jonathan Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I just tried updating my FDOM using FDOMizer from the 20080927 version and have had some gains but a few losses and problems. Some of the applications work but others (notably GnuChess and Openmoocow) don't. In particular GnuChess just goes and consumes all available CPU without apparently doing anything. OpenMooCow doesn't appear to do anything either but at least doesn't take any CPU time. I'm guessing here but I'd think that all those forced dependencies are likely to be causing problems. For example I only have gtk+ v 2.10.14-r2 instead of 2.12.11; libglib-2.0.0 v 2.6.16.1-r4 instead of 2.16.4; libcairo2 v 1.4.10-r0 instead of 1.6.4. Should I be using a different repository here? There were a couple of files that the script attempted to download from angsgtrom that weren't available. Curiously enough the files that are available are older versions than those requested by the script. These are: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/libpurple-protocol-msn_2.5.1-r0.1_armv4t.ipk http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/libpurple-libjabber_2.5.0-r0_armv4t.ipk There was something funny about the rc.local file, which the script update-rc.d expected to find in /etc/init.d but which were in /etc I copied it then re-ran update-rc.d and things looked a bit better. I suspect that I'd be better off abandoning the FDOMizer script and reinstalling the latest version, which seems a pity because update scripts are a great idea. Cheers, Jonathan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable solutions Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: LED and vibrator testing GUI
El jue, 30-10-2008 a las 04:19 +0100, Bastiaan Hovestreydt escribió: Hi, sorry, but I couldn't stop Apache from trying to execute the script other than renaming it, so its now here [1]. Bastiaan [1] http://openmoko.hovestreydt.com/download/leds Bastiaan Hovestreydt wrote: Hi, I don't know if somebody else did this already, but I didn't find anything in the wiki... I wrote a small Python script to quickly turn the LEDs of the Freerunner on and off for testing purposes. There's also has a slider to set the intensity of the vibrator. But since I don't anything about Python I only altered the mokoservices.py to fulfill my needs and tested it only under FDOM, so please be gentle :-) The script is available for download here [1]. I'm also planning on putting some more buttons in the original mokoservices.py to put the device in USB host mode, so let me know if your interested. We have also comment to include some kind of usb control to change to to usb mass storage mode!!! So Yes I'm interested and surelly like me there some more :) Bastiaan [1] http://openmoko.hovestreydt.com/download/leds.py ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable solutions Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: [FDOM] opkg install pidgin fails with 'An error occured, return value: 2.'
be carefull, if you add the angstrom repo opkg will try to upgrade some core libraries of the system like dbus or gtk, this will put FDOM and any 2008.X in a even more unestable state :) El jue, 30-10-2008 a las 21:49 +, Matthias Camenzind escribió: Try this: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2007/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/pidgin_2.2.1-r0_armv4t.ipk or add Angstrom Repository to your opkg source: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Repositories#Angstrom_Repository adding repository should be the better way, cause after you can install also some plugins with opkg. Else manually load from http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2007/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:38:17 +1300 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: [FDOM] opkg install pidgin fails with 'An error occured, return value: 2.' 2008/10/31 Tim Churchard : So my questions are: What's happened for opkg to give a return 2? And where should my /etc/opkg/*conf files be pointing? i'm pretty sure that means it isn't found in the repo, at least under that name ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community _ Werden Sie Mitglied der neuen Windows Live Messenger Familie! http://get.live.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable solutions Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Touchscreen scratch protection
Chris, you have open the hunting season :-) If you are from Spain, Portugal or Andorra you can also purcharse this virtually indestructible protection from http://www.tuxbrain.net/shop/product_info.php?products_id=34 A little bit more expesive at first look but you will save in shipments cost and mainly for Spain, a lot of headaches with our National Postal Agency, I deliver in 24 after payment confirmation :-) in those countries. Rest of Europe better do it through Chris, (in this case ;-) ) El mar, 28-10-2008 a las 09:14 +0200, Christoph Pulster escribió: The default plastic protection of my screen is giving up after only a few days of use. Does anyone know of a good alternative The plastic protection shipped with the Freerunner is mainly a shipping protection, which can be removed once you have your Openmoko in hands. For everyday use, try a real screen protection. I recommand the Zagg invisible Shield Full body. I sell it for 24,90 EUR http://www.pulster.de/engl/ index.html?d__omfolie__OpenMoko_invisible_Shield_Full_Body_coverage789.h tm see pictures in the Wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/InvisibleShield Chris OpenmokoShop www.pulster.eu ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable solutions Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Contacts - Fdom vs. OM2008.8
El mar, 28-10-2008 a las 16:50 +1000, nick d. escribió: Hmm i found that too Yaroslav. Would definitely be handy. Also the keyboard is almost incompatible. When you type in a name and select it, the keyboard puts in a space character which yields no results until you backspace. Is there a way to get the keyboard to lose predictive text so it can sort on the fly? I'm using the illume terminal keyboard for that, but as I remember if you maintain a key for a few , it will override the predictive thing and put directly that letter. -nick On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Yaroslav Halchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ps : well , fdom is not V om , those guys are working on stability thing , we are working on feature , funny , fat and dirty things! One of those dirty things is change config files, the standard 2008.9 has this feature you only have tell it to not be so shy and show it :) If you look at the FDOMizer. script you will find all the dirty thing we have done to it :) according to git log and http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/commitlog/2008-September/006060.html holger enabled it in qtopia build in september ... but for some reason it wasn't enabled by default also it seems to be not 'patched' in the view of contacts whenever it is called from the dialer (person icon) -- and that is the most often place where I look for contacts... now I will need to start contacts first I guess, heh heh or may be Holger would add 1 more patch in the right spot? ;-) -- .-. =-- /v\ = Keep in touch// \\ (yoh@| www.)onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko /( )\ ICQ#: 60653192 Linux User^^-^^[17] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable solutions Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fdom speed (was Re: New home for the New FDOM)
Use top on a ssh sesion on a externa pc conected trough usb El mar, 28-10-2008 a las 11:56 +0100, Pander escribió: I mean short interval and non disturbing logging top while doing normal phone functions. Looking at top in a terminal and testing phone functions do not go together easily. Any ideas? On Tue, October 28, 2008 09:09, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Pander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What simple ananlysis could be started in a terminal to gather data about what is eating what during usage? These results should indicate why FDOM is s slow and what should be done to speed it up. top? r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Call for mirrors for FDOM
El lun, 27-10-2008 a las 10:06 +, Alastair Johnson escribió: Matt wrote: Why not use bittorrent? Then everyone who benefits, can also contribute, effortlessly. Because I don't have a torrent tracker that I can immediately stick content on, while I do have a web server ready and waiting. I may have a look at adding torrents, but working with David to automate the mirroring will be a higher priority. True, I'm looking for do an script to rotate through aviable mirrors on each page load, Also It will be interesting all those friends offering his mirrors to know if they reply on period basis or on demand to advise/or schedule my self whatever changes I have to upload. I'm looking for the bittorrent solution too, I will report any news on that. Thanks you all :) Alastair Johnson wrote: Alastair Johnson wrote: David Samblas wrote: Well some of you have send me a mail about my site is little bit slow ... taking in count I have served about 20Gb in less than 2 days is with peaks of 1 Gb/hour , slow is at least a good performance :) I will try to make a script to balance beetween me an the mirrors but actually there is only one updated http://files.tdobson.net/openmoko/freerunner/fdom/ thanks Tim :) Thanks to you all for your support :) I should have our mirror updated by tomorrow morning UK time. Mirror now available at: http://openmoko.truebox.co.uk/mirror/ftp.tuxbrain.com/openmoko/fdom/releases/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable solutions Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Contacts - Fdom vs. OM2008.8
El dom, 26-10-2008 a las 20:02 +0330, Armin ranjbar escribió: On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:18:40 -0700 (PDT) heat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably it's a silly topic ... but why contacts in FDOM shows a line for searching and 2008.8 (upgraded) not ?? FDOM is build upon 2008.8, isn't it ? Thank you. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Contacts---Fdom-vs.-OM2008.8-tp1379334p1379334.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Well ... emm... aaa because Fdom rocks!!! X-D ps : well , fdom is not V om , those guys are working on stability thing , we are working on feature , funny , fat and dirty things! One of those dirty things is change config files, the standard 2008.9 has this feature you only have tell it to not be so shy and show it :) If you look at the FDOMizer. script you will find all the dirty thing we have done to it :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release
Marc, those it need to update the modules too? El lun, 27-10-2008 a las 00:47 +0100, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) escribió: Geoff Ruscoe ha scritto: So I'm downloading the new FDOM image, but unfortunately I don't see what kernel I should use with it. Is there a best kernel to go with it? If you want, give a try to this [1]. It includes the latest cool patches (better NAND performances, less power usage on LCD off, improved Glamo speed, better touchscreen event handling) from stable and andy... Bye! [1] http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/uImage-gta02-stable-3v1n0-git-mixture.bin -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable solutions Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM pet Tux (other distros too)
El jue, 23-10-2008 a las 22:18 +0200, Minh Ha Duong escribió: Hi David, There is a purple brained Tux on the FDOM page at http://www.tuxbrain.com/fdom_en.html Looks cool, isn't it ? :) Is that FDOM's pet or your company's ? FDOM's, Is a Fat and Dirty penguin with brained reminiscence :) If it's FDOM, is the picture copyleft ? Yes If it is copyleft, would you care to add it to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FDOM_-_a_Fat_and_Dirty_OM_based_distribution ? I will as soon as I can :) The wiki s needs more pretty pictures. I will try to add some screen captures too, when my neo comes back from a brief the demo tour Minh -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable solutions Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New home for the New FDOM
Quoting Matt Luzum [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Also, the tarball unpacks everything into var/tmp/root/. If I move everything from there into the root directory of the SD partition it boots, although I can't start contacts or the dialer. That could be something I did wrong, though. No surely something I did wrong any body sees what's wrong in this sentece to make a tarball of a neo rootfs? #ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] tar -cp /var/tmp/root -C /var/tmp/root|gzip - Fat_and_Dirty_OM.200808-updates.20080909.rootfs.tar.gz What kernel should we be using with this? the standard OM200809 kernel Ben Hussey wrote: The link titled, ftp://ftp.tuxbrain.com/openmoko/fdom/releases, points to the same url but with FDOM in capital letters. So I get a file not found error. The fdom needs to be changed to lowercase in the url. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable solutions Hey watch out!! there's a Linux in you pocket!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pingus ported
just do a simple script in Duke3d way and call it instead pingus directly #!/bin/bash xrandr -o 1 pingus xrandr -o 0 El sáb, 18-10-2008 a las 22:16 +0100, BS - João Vieira escribió: isn't there a way that the game rotates by itself instead we giving command line instructions? On Saturday 18 October 2008, Tobias Kündig wrote: You have to rotate the screen to landscape. Look here for more information:p http://www.opkg.org/package_27.html Regards, Tobias Patrick Beck schrieb: Hello, i have installed the needed packages and i get this message when i try to start pingus -- Welcome to Pingus 0.7.2! data path: /usr/bin/../share/pingus/data/ language:English (en) font encoding: iso-8859-1 sound support: enabled music support: enabled resolution: 800x600 fullscreen: disabled Unable to set video mode: No video mode large enough for 800x600 -- How can i change the resolution? Thanks for the port. with kind regards Patrick Am Samstag, den 18.10.2008, 16:06 +0200 schrieb Sander van Grieken: Hi All, I'm glad to report that I've managed to port Pingus, the free lemmings clone, for OE based distributions (it was already available on Debian). I have submitted the bitbake recipe and patches to Openembedded, but there's no need to wait while these trickle down the various branches. I have created the binaries for you. On both FSO and OM2008.8 you can install http://3v8.net/~sander/openmoko/libboost-signals1.33.1_1.33.1-r3_armv4t. ipk http://3v8.net/~sander/openmoko/pingus_0.7.2-r0_armv4t.ipk Also libpng3 must be installed, but I haven't been able to get the dependency right, so you'll need to do that manually. Note: for OM2008.8, you need to have the testing feeds to get recent enough SDL packages. more information is at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Sander ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Back to the basics: improving user experience
El jue, 16-10-2008 a las 15:47 +0800, John Lee escribió: Hi, Like Wolfgang said in http://n2.nabble.com/Weekly-Engineering-News-41-2008-td1336450.html We assembled a team to focus on improving the user experience. Here is our todo list at the moment: * Reduce boot time. ok * Optimize the touch screen driver on freerunner for finger usage. for me is quite good right now but any improvement are welcome * A generic python loader to enhance the start up time of python scripts. YES PLEASE :) this will allow script kiddies like me to help in high level development and utilities on the phone * Work with system team to improve suspend/resume user experience. yes, I would like to ask the community: What do you want us to work on? The idea is * We improve the current stack, not creating new features. ok, there a lot of thirparty apps out there than can provide new features, but they need a rock solid base to be totally cool * Prefer stuffs which could be brought over to gta03 instead of gta02/om2008 specific. Not totally agree here, some(a lot of) effort must be done in current specific gta02 , a clear example is the famous glamo chipset, you are the only ones who can improve it due NDA as some one else has pointed, you must struggle(even more) this chipset to extract until the last drop of it juice. * won't work on om2007 stack. Better make efforts on FSO So, tell us what you want, then the coding monkeys will start working! :) just work on the basics as you have pointed, and the basic is all hardware must work without any blocking bug(alas stability) and inside this stability do it as fast as phisicaly posible. Fancy apps will come from the community and porting from other distros, thats the magic on free source :) Regards, John ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Rasterman Image...
El mié, 15-10-2008 a las 20:31 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra escribió: On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 09:12:44PM +0200, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: In the enlightenment archives there's a new Rasterman image: New updates from Rasterman (ehy, why don't you add RSS feeds to your site?! :P): http://www.rasterman.com/. To underline a new image [1] and some scripts to get the same by compiling [2]. In his files folder there's also a nice mockup for the GTA03 hw [3]! [1] http://download.enlightenment.org/misc/Illume/Freerunner/2008-10-12/ [2] http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/TMP/oe [3] http://www.rasterman.com/files/gta03-idea-1.png Have you tried it already? I have tried, it has an tree apps an alarm, a screenshotter and a terminal. looks very pretty and lovely, I'm still guessin why OM has no agree with raster on what the phone software has to look like Does it work? (ie, does it make/receive calls? can you hear and be listented to?) You have to install somethings to arrive to do this, is more a proof of concept of what a Illume can look like in the Neo than a intention of have a working phone. I dream a day that I can aply this directly with an opkg install to a working official OM distro. BTW, regarding http://www.rasterman.com/files/gta03-idea-1.png I like a lot all the design less one detail, raster let's start again a qvga vs vga flame? :) Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko to shift to 2.6.27 kernel ?
El lun, 13-10-2008 a las 00:42 -0400, Joel Newkirk escribió: On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:29:53 +0100, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joel Newkirk wrote: Qi boots like a dream - no kernel messages scrolling by, just turns on backlight on a black screen for about 5 seconds (heartstopper of sorts the first time) then the graphical boot progress screen appears. I'd guesstimate that overall boot time was improved perhaps 15%. Great. NOTE for other 'daredevils': Qi does NOT provide a boot menu. (at least not that I could find, not at this point) The usual NOR uBoot menu you use Right Qi's concept is it leaves everything possible to Linux, that includes even the video init. You can use NOR U-Boot on Freerunner to do DFU or other U-Boot specific stuff. Qi has a list of bootable devices and currently will try uSD partition 1 for /boot/uImage.bin, if that is not working out then it will try the NAND kernel partition. Currently 2.6.27 doesn't do mtd properly and blows chunks with these CRC errors, didn't find why yet. But it does work with uSD boot on ext3 OK. The red LED thing is what we do on kernel panic... it's panicking because it can't mount the jffs2 part because of the CRC errors, then it has no rootfs. Thanks a lot for trying it and reporting it, you'll get further with uSD boot right now. I finally realized that you meant boot from uSD-based system, rather than just pull the kernel from uSD - I tried 2.6.27 and 2008.8-update uImage in /media/card/boot and just got blinking red kernel panic LED. Now I've successfully booted from uSD with Base Image and 2.6.27. Linux om-gta02 2.6.27-andy-tracking_2ffb4cc483642df1-mokodev #12 PREEMPT Sat Oct 11 13:06:05 BST 2008 armv4tl unknown. (although every other attempt or so it seems to hang at a blank console with a blinking cursor, not really mapped that behavior out yet) Which one way or another goes to highlight that Qi - as it stands now and from what I understand of the intention for it - will not be usable for a dual-boot setup. Not a problem actually, as NOR uBoot will let us achieve that, and I realize that the common target case will be a user who wants a smartphone, not a multiboot development platform. I just realized that the default behavior of Qi being uSD and the default behavior of uBoot being NAND means you could place 'primary' on uSD and 'secondary' in NAND, and booting to secondary is just two-step - NOR boot with aux+power, then power again to boot. Don't you love that feeling when things start to click? :) Now I have Base/Empty firing up by default, Raster+FSO if I use aux to invoke NOR Uboot. j I'm not a kernel hacker only a user, but as I undertand It would be better to invert that behaviour, better to primary boot from NAND and then secondary boot on uSD, a normal user must boot his phone even without any uSD. Normal boot to nand, and if you want to boot from anything else do something else. It's a pitty than NOR uboot doesn't allow to boot from uSD by default, but this fault does't have to change the logical behaviour NAND is attached to the phone and is less likely blow up the hole S.O. sa mistake by a normal user putting some music in his uSD card trough a 2.0 Card reader :) seekeng for some free space ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: console command history
El lun, 13-10-2008 a las 17:02 -0400, Joel Newkirk escribió: How can I enlarge the console command history? I'm used to being able to peruse hundreds of lines of previous commands in bash, the limit to ~16 lines is maddening. j I want to know how to do is too, I'm one os those lazy up arrow smashers :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko to shift to 2.6.27 kernel ?
El lun, 13-10-2008 a las 11:58 -0400, Joel Newkirk escribió: On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:48:50 +0200, David Samblas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El lun, 13-10-2008 a las 00:42 -0400, Joel Newkirk escribió: Which one way or another goes to highlight that Qi - as it stands now and from what I understand of the intention for it - will not be usable for a dual-boot setup. Not a problem actually, as NOR uBoot will let us achieve that, and I realize that the common target case will be a user who wants a smartphone, not a multiboot development platform. I just realized that the default behavior of Qi being uSD and the default behavior of uBoot being NAND means you could place 'primary' on uSD and 'secondary' in NAND, and booting to secondary is just two-step - NOR boot with aux+power, then power again to boot. Don't you love that feeling when things start to click? :) Now I have Base/Empty firing up by default, Raster+FSO if I use aux to invoke NOR Uboot. j I'm not a kernel hacker only a user, but as I undertand It would be better to invert that behaviour, better to primary boot from NAND and then secondary boot on uSD, a normal user must boot his phone even without any uSD. Normal boot to nand, and if you want to boot from anything else do something else. It's a pitty than NOR uboot doesn't allow to boot from uSD by default, but this fault does't have to change the logical behaviour NAND is attached to the phone and is less likely blow up the hole S.O. sa mistake by a normal user putting some music in his uSD card trough a 2.0 Card reader :) seekeng for some free space If there's NO uSD, or the uSD doesn't contain a folder named 'boot' on the first partition, with a file named 'uImage.bin', then Qi will boot from NAND. It's just if you WANT a dual-boot environment that currently Qi doesn't let you do that simply. As Andy noted in his response to that post, however, he plans for Qi to support user selection of boot, it just doesn't do it at this time. Until it offers the ability to select, then the present behavior (check for kernel on uSD, else use NAND) makes more sense that always going to NAND and only NAND. j OK that make sense , I have not fully understood Qi boot mechanism thaks for your explanation Joel :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using a webcam on the Openmoko
Bravo, :) really really cool job, It would be amazing to have something similar in a 2008.X based distro. If I got enough free time I will try to to make it work on FDOM but no promises. El jue, 09-10-2008 a las 21:47 +, Pierre Pronchery escribió: Hi community, I just wanted to let you know that I got a webcam to work on my Freerunner. I have written some instructions on the official wiki in both English and French: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Webcam It could be made much easier already by enabling video input support by default in the official kernel builds. I'll file a bug for this next thing. HTH, ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM - OMView question
slide you finger up to down in the screen will zoom out and return to the slide show view Regards David Samblas El mié, 08-10-2008 a las 10:05 +0200, Paul escribió: Hi all, I am running FDOM from the card at the moment, works pretty nice. I can see pictures! *grin* Question about that though: I can drag the picture up full-screen and even in zoom-view. But how does one get back to the thumbnail view from there? There's no control for it in sight, and pressing all the buttons doesn't help either. I resolved this by pulling the battery, but I doubt this is the standard control for it. ;-) Paul ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Making sound work (was Re: New Rasterman Image...)
El mar, 07-10-2008 a las 13:24 +0200, David Samblas escribió: El mar, 07-10-2008 a las 12:15 +0100, David Pottage escribió: On Mon, October 6, 2008 12:11 am, Richy wrote: I somehow managed to get it to work to some extend. The phone isn' ringin, just vibrating, but I can talk and hear during a call.. make sure you have gstreamer installed, also I added a lot of packages, with alsa, gst, openmoko-state, etc. Didn't work until reboot. (And due to the Neos booting-time I don't want to reboot after each package just to check...) Now, some PIM-software and this is near perfect :-) I am also having trouble with sound. I can hear the other party during calls, but apart from the The phone loudspeaker appears not to work. I don't get any ring tones, and I can't hear music from media plays such as pythm. I have installed pymixer, and have maxed out all the sliders but still nothing. I have also tried installing the snd_pcm_oss kernel module out of FSO, but it will not load due to undefined symbols. Any ideas. I am running the latest FDOM (Based on ASU 2008.9). have you managed to put the raster new illume in to FDOM??? :) :) I want to see it? an a step by step shell commands used will be even more cool :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Making sound work (was Re: New Rasterman Image...)
El mar, 07-10-2008 a las 12:15 +0100, David Pottage escribió: On Mon, October 6, 2008 12:11 am, Richy wrote: I somehow managed to get it to work to some extend. The phone isn' ringin, just vibrating, but I can talk and hear during a call.. make sure you have gstreamer installed, also I added a lot of packages, with alsa, gst, openmoko-state, etc. Didn't work until reboot. (And due to the Neos booting-time I don't want to reboot after each package just to check...) Now, some PIM-software and this is near perfect :-) I am also having trouble with sound. I can hear the other party during calls, but apart from the The phone loudspeaker appears not to work. I don't get any ring tones, and I can't hear music from media plays such as pythm. I have installed pymixer, and have maxed out all the sliders but still nothing. I have also tried installing the snd_pcm_oss kernel module out of FSO, but it will not load due to undefined symbols. Any ideas. I am running the latest FDOM (Based on ASU 2008.9). have you managed to put the raster new illume in to FDOM??? :) :) I want to see it? an a step by ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The Lost Openmoko Community
When some body feels lost is because he doen't planned the trip enough, before come in strange territory you must have maps and read about uses and customs of the aboriginal and if the case earn enough of their language to , when if all plans fail, ask where you are and how to go any where. I'm a foreigner too, but when I feel lost I don't sit down and cry, I search for a more actualiced guide or ask , aboriginals here are very friendly, and even a lot of experienced foreigner are happy to help you too. As you post in you blog you just arrive , you take a quick look to a totally strange territory an you complain you feel lost and not confortable in any place here, if like you there are other, instead of keep this flamming post growing and growing ,get you hands dirty and began to work, you haven't to be a high kernel hacker to help, you can translate and/or review wiki, you can focus on a app and report even stetical issues (as some one in the post has already suggest..), About FDOM you have a bad perspective, FDOM is posible because a lot of people had been working to make OM2008.08, Illume, and a every app inside FDOM, is posible because people has make public their tweakings in the wiki or in this list, and even talk to me or in the devel list to make suggestions and/or directly work. FDOM has began as a shared simply backup of my own phone, and now is near to be the first distro that will have their rootfs (bad) managed in a svn repository, yeah we put the binaries and yes we know svn was thinked to manage source code, but source code is not the business of FDOM right now, we are only focused on pimping whatever OM has decide to be their base distro, if they finally change to an FSO based distro I will be happy to pimping it too, even If I have to redo all work from zeto. I have done it a lot of times to test and to try to improve things. FDOM has not born for a need, FDOM has been born thanks to all the work done before, including the phone where it runs. This is a public request to all those you like FDOM, If you like FDOM then you like OM2008.X, FDOM=OM+things already done by others , please stop comparation and using FDOM as weapon against itself. I will already ask to please, stop this post right now in the tone it has began. And maybe I wrong and now i will post a personal opinion, You have your own blog to post you opinions, you have appeared in planet, as you already said people has post their opinions in your blog post,you have said nothing new in this post than have not already said in you blog, there was a need to do it? Thanks to all to make me, and colaboratos, able to make FDOM El sáb, 04-10-2008 a las 15:56 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa escribió: Hi! After my previous blog post [1] about Openmoko 2007.2 distribution and the Openmoko community I got some comments proving that like me, some other people feel that the community is lost and uninformed. This post is a follow up to the previous post and the comments I got. I've understood that 2007.2 still ships with the phones. As soon as one gets his new c00l Freerunner linux phone they need to flash the phone with a new distro (2008.x or Debian, FDOM, SHR, Gentoo, Qtopia, FSO.. [6]) since the software it ships with is obsolete. OK, so you get your 2008.x there and find that it doesn't really do all the magic and would like to report a bug. BUGS I don't know how others feel but I really don't feel like reporting bugs in the bug tracker [3]. OK, I'm running an unsupported distro (2007.2) so there's one reason but I also feel that it's okay to post kernel bugs only there, not anything that a normal user would see in his GUI. Is this correct or just a feeling or misunderstanding? Remember that all Freerunner owners and people here in the community are not kernel developers. I don't even know how to save back traces or hack the source code but I'm happy to report if something doesn't work and then when someone more skillful finds what's wrong and eventually fixes it, I'm again happy to try if the fix works for me. For some reason I feel that there's no space in the community for users like me. DISTROS So it's 2008.x now. No, wait.. there are FDOM [5] and SHR [2] around that are not far from 2008.x. Is 2007.2 still developed and lead by Openmoko or by the community? Do the community developers have access to the files so that new releases can be made or is SHR the closest to 2007.2 you can get to? My feeling is that there was a lack of information about why 2007.2 was forgotten and new 2008.x series was started and that something weird is happening in the official distros that creates a need for FDOM and SHR - why don't the developers feel ok to contribute directly to 2007.x and 2008.x but 'fork' their own distros? INFORMATION I think that what makes me feel lost is the lack of information about what's happening in the community. I don't know what's the development status of the software
Re: New Rasterman Image...
El jue, 02-10-2008 a las 03:18 +0200, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) escribió: In the enlightenment archives there's a new Rasterman image: - openmoko-illume-image-glibc-ipk--20080929-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 [1] It looks so cool with the new illume theme [2] [3] [4] [5] [6], but practically it has no telephony related software installed in since it seems a simple OE built with these scripts [7], so (I figure) that you're free to put in both the FSO and/or the Om2008.8 stack, just install the needed packages! Any way to doing this inverted? from a already build 2008.9 stack add this beautifull front end? Bye. [1] http://download.enlightenment.org/misc/Illume/ [2] http://forum.telefoninux.org/index.php/topic,533.0/topicseen.html [3] http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-01.ogg [4] http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-02.ogg [5] http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-03.ogg [6] http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-04.ogg [7] http://www.rasterman.com/files/oe-setup.tar.gz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] Kernel panic?
Hi Matthew please verify if you have downloaded the full file because sometimes the compartida.net server truncate the file to make sure you have downloaded use wget -c and the url of the file, or better use one of the mirrors of the wiki adn try again. El jue, 02-10-2008 a las 16:04 -0400, Matthew Lane escribió: I'm getting a kernel panic when I flash the lastest FDOM (20080927). I'm using the latest 2008.9 kernel, could this be the issue? FDOM doesn't seem to supply a kernel to use, but I'd think that the 2008.09 kernel would be fine. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM 080927] Modem jokes on SIM entries
Ok thats why I was unable to reproduce the issue, I allways have dissabled auto suspend, I suspend manually and I usually do a lot of things once the neo boots up before and I deatached it from the pc. Any one with same experience on a raw 2008.9 instalation?, if not maybe amstrong demux has become more inestable than expected. I we have to redo this part to have gprs and gsm at same time. or it is also included on 2008.9? some guiadance on alternatives or posible workarrounds will be apreciated :) Thanks El mié, 01-10-2008 a las 13:33 +0530, Devendra Gera escribió: On Wed, 01 Oct 2008, madis wrote: After registering if I try to open the phone book I see only message Loading Sim... I can't see my phone book content in Sim and my FR behaves very strangely also. I can't receive calls if somebody calls. My FR rings, but I am unable to press the answer button, the touch screen is not responding. The screen itself is ok, because all other times it works. I can't make any phone calls, my FR says it's dialing the number, but nothing happens in reality. I encounter the same issues. I have noticed that disabling auto suspend and not doing _anything_ related to SIM or suspend (which means no calls, no contacts, no messages etc.) until after ~5 minutes *after* GSM registration helps. Then I try and make a call to my operator to verify that everything work, and only then suspend manually. Doing this ensures my phone keeps working when it wakes up. I have noticed that accessing SIM contacts even beyond this procedure breaks suspend and/or calling unpredictably. I tend to avoid using SIM contacts a much as I can. --gera. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
gsmhandset state file to test
Hi there on of our colleges[1] of the spanish list has provided us with an gsmhanset state file that solves low volume on call reciver , I have barelly tested it alone with a phone en each ear :). I will test it further along the day and post the results, any one else willing to try is wellcome to do it. from neo or ssh console cd /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/ mv gsmhandset.state gsmhandset.state.original wget http://n2.nabble.com/attachment/1129707/0/gsmhandset.state [1]The original post http://n2.nabble.com/-Fwd%3A-eco-y-audio--tc1129707ef1958.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stable OM distro
I believe a lot of us are keeping our breath and crossing the fingers. for that promising 4.4, but I'm a little confused about the openess of the premium modules. El mié, 01-10-2008 a las 15:56 -0600, Vince M. Clark escribió: I'm assuming you are referring to Qtopia 4.3 right? It was close but not quite there. I have very high hopes for 4.4. - Original Message - From: t m [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Wednesday, October 1, 2008 2:56:00 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: Stable OM distro You can try FDOM. It's somewhat bloated, but works nicely for me. Nice, I will try this as well. Even Qtopia didn't work out for me. Other users have the same experience? It usually takes a while before problems show, and I'm really hoping I will be able to at least phone and sms with a normal battery life (and resume that works) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.9] installing lint-wifi
This is an old friend bug luckily easy to solve. edit the /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py file go to line 82 and add an underscore at the beginnig of the init() then it must looks like _init() thats all. Some one will fix this some day in the OE repositorie Regards David Samblas El mar, 30-09-2008 a las 07:27 +0200, Matthias Apitz escribió: Hello, I've tried to install 'lint-wifi' following the Wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Lint-wifi fetched lint-wifi_0.1_armv4t.ipk and later because of missing gtk for python in addition python-pygtk_2.10.4-ml7_armv4t.opk (btw: what is the difference between *.ipk and *.opk ?) installing python-pygtk_2.10.4-ml7_armv4t.opk fetched some dependencies: # opkg install python-pygtk_2.10.4-ml7_armv4t.opk Multiple packages (python-pygtk and python-pygtk) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER. Using latest. Installing python-pygtk (2.10.4-ml7) to root... Installing python-shell (2.5.2-ml0) to root... Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/python-shell_2.5.2-ml0_armv4t.opk Installing python-pycairo (1.4.0-ml1) to root... Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/python-pycairo_1.4.0-ml1_armv4t.opk Installing python-pygobject (2.12.3-r3) to root... Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/python-pygobject_2.12.3-r3_armv4t.opk Installing libglade-2.0-0 (2.6.2-r2) to root... Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/libglade-2.0-0_2.6.2-r2_armv4t.opk Configuring libglade-2.0-0 Configuring python-pycairo Configuring python-pygobject Configuring python-pygtk Configuring python-shell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# but launching 'lint-wifi.py' fails with: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# lint-wifi.py Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/lint-wifi.py, line 9, in module import gtk, os File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py, line 82, in module init() NameError: name 'init' is not defined Any idea what I have done wrong? Thx matthias ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] pidgin bug
try instaling this packages, them should provide ssl and irc protocol to pidgin opkg -force-depends install http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/libpurple-plugin-ssl_2.5.0-r0_armv4t.ipk opkg -force-depends install http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/libpurple-plugin-ssl-nss_2.5.0-r0_armv4t.ipk opkg -force-depends install http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/libpurple-plugin-ssl-gnutls_2.5.0-r0_armv4t.ipk opkg -force-depends install http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/libpurple-protocol-irc_2.5.0-r0_armv4t.ipk El dom, 28-09-2008 a las 17:45 +1000, nickd escribió: Hi David. How's your weekend? Just a quick bug with FDOM. I see you've added MSN support to Pidgin. Unfortunately Pidgin complains that it needs the SSL library for MSN to work. Should I place bugs like this in future on the projects page? Thanks for everything! -Nick ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] new release 20080927
El dom, 28-09-2008 a las 22:07 +0200, Petr Vanek escribió: On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 05:15:18 +0200 David Samblas [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DS) wrote: :) As you may notice this is a large amount of programs so in order to not blow away the home with icons I have included a raw,dirty, and a little bit slow script in pygtk that acts as popupmenu /usr/bin/FDsubmenu.py, surely a c/elf program will be more quick and integrated but just I have no time to learn it(yet). Futures versions will include the icon image. Feel free to modify and add features of course. The FDSubmenu is slow, but does the job atm, absolutely agree :) with my non-programming skills, i have added icons to it, i have sort of crop the icons to keep the row height (didn't know better way anyways): http://vanous.penguin.cz/files/om/FDSubmenu.py Thanks a lot :) y send copy to the devel list to take in account on next release http://vanous.penguin.cz/files/om/om-gta02:0-1.png http://vanous.penguin.cz/files/om/om-gta02:0-2.png http://vanous.penguin.cz/files/om/om-gta02:0-3.png quite more additions in some parts :) -- Petr Vaněk http://biodynamika.cz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM]: where are the sources?
FDOM is not source based, is basically a backup of my phone :), I(we) install a 2008.X base distro and then add packages through opkg and fix some things manually , tweaking config files and adding packages from other repositories resolving dependencies manually too. We are creating a svn server with a full rootfs to be able to install it on the phone and commit directly from the phone the tweaks we do, but actualy I was unable to boot from the checkout of the svn more info at the fdom-devel list http://lists.projects.openmoko.org/pipermail/fdom-development/ Regards David Samblas El sáb, 27-09-2008 a las 20:46 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Hello, is there an openembedded repository of FDOM... or how can i can build it and add bb files? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Upgrading FDOM
El vie, 26-09-2008 a las 10:36 -0700, Kelvie Wong escribió: So, it seems that the new FDOM got released yesterday (today?): http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FDOM#version__20080925 Anyone know how (if it is even possible) to upgrade to this without having to reflash the entire rootfs (such as via a opkg upgrade using some custom feed)? we are working on a script than convert any standard 2008.X updated into a FDOM to achieve this. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Upgrading FDOM
sorry my fault, I have made some renames manually to clarify but I only have messed things even more. El vie, 26-09-2008 a las 18:45 -0400, Charles Pax escribió: On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Kelvie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, it seems that the new FDOM got released yesterday (today?): http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FDOM#version__20080925 The md5sums seemd to be for different files. If you change the file name in the md5sum, they check out okay. What's up? -Charles ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: My Suggestions for FDOM
El vie, 26-09-2008 a las 07:13 +0100, Tim Wentford escribió: For EBooks I have opie-reader working on the image from Qtopia.net but I don't have enough spare time to work out how to build it for any of the other variants. If anyone can build Qtopia apps for anything other than the Qtopia image and can tell me how to do it, I'll have a go (or if they want to have a go themselves I can provide the sources) - but I don't have the spare time to experiment with the build systems to get something that works. I also like to have in near future a x11 version of the finger drawing qtopia app (scrible or similar name) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] Ye olde no sound after resume
Thanks a lot!!! I have no anounced the last update cause of this annoying bug on 20080927 release I have included this fix El vie, 26-09-2008 a las 15:26 +1000, nickd escribió: Flashed the latest copy of FDOM today and I'm having this [1] problem again. Anyone else experiencing problems or just me? Fix for me was uninstalling speech-dispatcher and rebooting. -Nick 1. http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1599 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FDOM] new release 20080927
Hi all, on http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM/ you have disponible the new FDOM release. I have just erase previous release because there are some annoying bugs withs calls and no sound. But his has gone thanks to nickd, This release is not as tested as 2008.08 ones but include things, that sure, gonna make you smile, 29 Games :), orrery 2.0, a mplayer frontend pythm, and things than have the last updated not anounced jalimo with java se and me, navit, linphone (not tested but surely some people will smile twice, isn't it Michel Siloh? :) ) in addition to FDOM classics :) As you may notice this is a large amount of programs so in order to not blow away the home with icons I have included a raw,dirty, and a little bit slow script in pygtk that acts as popupmenu /usr/bin/FDsubmenu.py, surely a c/elf program will be more quick and integrated but just I have no time to learn it(yet). Futures versions will include the icon image. Feel free to modify and add features of course. Regarding colaborations , First thanks nacho and armin because without them this release will has not been posible, if you want to colaborate reporting bugs,improvements or sugestions we have a project in http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/fdom/ with a devel list http://lists.projects.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/fdom-development thanks to armin, we have also a svn server svn://zoup.org/Fdom with an 2008.09 that we want to transform in a better FDOM but here I call for help, Armin has his neo temporaly out of order, and I was unable to put the svn checkout to boot in a sd card, I want to do this to be able to have a quick way to summit changes, and have a more efective way to make various people to tweak the distro at same time. So if any one succeded to boot froma svn extraction please contacr us to tell us how I will try to update the wiki tomorrow with the modifications but any help will be apreciated here too :) I have not included the kernel image because still the 2008.09 one http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.9/Om2008.9.uImage.bin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: My Suggestions for FDOM
El jue, 25-09-2008 a las 23:44 +0100, Tim Dobson escribió: Hi there, I've just moved to FDOM and I love it. I have a few ideas to make it better - these aren't criticisms - it's great at the moment - these are just ideas to make it better - I don't expect anyone to agree about all of them, but these are suggestions... # Midori(with the settings tweaked) is better for the screensize than minimo - I find it more usable Please pass me a link to how to tweak it I will take a look # accel-rotate program, or a way to start/stop it - this is a simple script to use the accelerometers to rotate with xrandr. It seems quite stable. An ipkg is available - http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Rotate a way to easyly start/stop will be helpfull When I was running 22007.2, two cool programs I had from Angstrom were: # Quasar - a x11 mplayer front end. This is not perfect for the freerunner - it ideally needs some UI work doing (more than just setting tweaking), especially on it's fonts, however, i have launched mpg QVGA videos with it and watched them as well as listening to music with it. used pythm isted but I take a look at Quasar # Claws Mail A lightweight mail client - with a bit of UI tweaking from the view menu makes a completely usable mail client. Since we have qmail, I guess this is not necessary, but it's a thought. # FBreader? I would love to see an ebook reader but I think there are big dependency issues here :( # Games Personally, I would prefer to get rid of sudoku and to possibly to get kobodeluxe on there. Though not ready yet, keeping an eye on http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/accelgame might be good. # lint-wifi Personally, I prefer lint-wifi to mofi. I really like being able to see the network info it displays (ie IP, DNS DDHCP) as it helps troubleshooting stuff when things dont work :P http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Lint-wifi # wpa_supplicant.conf Possibly modify the default the wpa_supplicant.conf to automatically connect to unencrypted wifi hotspots? :-/ I can't help too much - my stupid OM setup script - (givemeteh)apppznow is pretty much obsolete as a result of FDOM :) so I will help in the ways I can. I have joined the development list and considering all the spare high speed bandwidth I have, I've set up a mirror - http://files.tdobson.net/openmoko/freerunner/fadom/ We are also working in a script that way, any help well be apreciated and I will taka a ook at your script too At some point soon I'll get rid of the 'a' in fadom :P I have the mania of call it fsdom... so dont worry, please update the mirror list in the wiki Cheers for the good work, keep it up! :D Thank :) Tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM 2008.9 update?
Yes we will release one in short, and also we are preparing infrastructure to be able to admit and manage colaborations, more details on release readme. Thank to all for you interest El mar, 23-09-2008 a las 21:54 -0400, Tomas Riveros Schober escribió: i read a couple messages ago that its being worked on. so, being patient or getting involved are the only 2 options for now... regards Tom Glen Ogilvie escribió: Hi, I enjoyed using FDOM, with the already configured stuff it was nice and easy to get things working. Is the going to be an update that is based on om2008.9 release? Regards Glen Ogilvie ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Whats the name of the app FDOM uses to do display switching ?
tapuntap.py it's in /usr/bin it's a simply script using xrandr El mié, 24-09-2008 a las 17:09 +0800, William Kenworthy escribió: Whats the name of the app FDOM uses to do display switching ? (portrait/landscape) BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT] First rumors about first Google phone
Yes, take for sure than HTC will not release as an open phone as Openmoko, when I was talking about openess I was talking of the sofware stack, to precisely to the posiblitiy neo can run that software on it. El mié, 24-09-2008 a las 15:53 +0200, Cédric Berger escribió: On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 15:46, Steven Kurylo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even if the code is open, will the hardware be? The hardware could easily check if the software has been changed and then cut power. What is interesting is that the code is open so that you can port it a more open hardware (Neo !) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: this is not freedom [was:Re: [OT] First rumors about first Google phone]
Again I don't know how much google will open their software, It's clear than if HTC + T-movile are involved in the phone the phone itself will not be free, that not worry me is a no go on hardware openness. I had some hope on the software stack not in hardware. El mié, 24-09-2008 a las 17:49 +0300, doron escribió: Hi, I not sure , but, AFAIK , I can run free software for any purpose (freedom 0) , but the Google phone is locked to one cellular provider , T-mobile , and the device is SIM-locked [1] (paragraph 9 - first line). This is not freedom ! [1] http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080923-t-mobile-google-finally-unveil-the-first-android-phone.html - doron Steven Kurylo wrote: Even if the code is open, will the hardware be? The hardware could easily check if the software has been changed and then cut power. Hopefully there will at least be some interesting bits to borrow. On 9/24/08, Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 19:21, David Samblas any news about the real openess of android? first phone has just been announced to be released, and then the code should be open sourced : http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/09/announcing-android-10-sdk-release-1.html So what's next for us? Well, we'll keep working on the SDK, as I said. But we're also working hard with our partners in the Open Handset Alliance on the open-source release, with the aim of making the code available in the fourth quarter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT] First rumors about first Google phone
It's need to be ported before can be runned, and needs to be open to port it, they said they will open it at final of this year. El mié, 24-09-2008 a las 09:05 -0600, Vince M. Clark escribió: Has anyone tried to install Android on a Freerunner? - Original Message - From: David Samblas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 8:58:18 AM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: [OT] First rumors about first Google phone Yes, take for sure than HTC will not release as an open phone as Openmoko, when I was talking about openess I was talking of the sofware stack, to precisely to the posiblitiy neo can run that software on it. El mié, 24-09-2008 a las 15:53 +0200, Cédric Berger escribió: On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 15:46, Steven Kurylo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even if the code is open, will the hardware be? The hardware could easily check if the software has been changed and then cut power. What is interesting is that the code is open so that you can port it a more open hardware (Neo !) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.8] [FDOM]
El mar, 23-09-2008 a las 15:02 +0200, Jose Luis Perez Diez escribió: El Tuesday, 23 de September de 2008 12:21:17 Davide Scaini va escriure: ok, updating works... but installing (with assassin) it says Failed. Please try again.The error message is 'gpg-failure' I've just installed om-maps-paris and updated assassin from assessin on the lastest FDOM image without problems so i can't upgrade or install anything! :-( Upgrading FDOM isn't recommended. the image was built installing some of ipk manually and any upgrade is could bug it. As Jose Luis sais is not recomended to do full upgrade, and less recommended until the last 2008.9 update, we are working i a 2008.9 updated version. I will announce on the list when aviable. and the changes will be published on the wiki Regards ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[OT] First rumors about first Google phone
Here in spain is a press massive campaing about the new google phone based in android the HTC Dream with a financied price of 199 Eurs http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2006/dec/17/news.mobilephones that will be out by the end of the year. any news about the real openess of android? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Phone java apps on fr?
Good news :) a step closer to say neo is full compatible with you favorite java games and apps :) I know all c/python/elf/gtk even qt lovers will be groaning like Gollum in Saurons fortress but marketing is cruel some times and the avobe sentence can make Openmoko sell more neos :) El jue, 18-09-2008 a las 14:37 +0200, Robert Schuster escribió: Hi, for some blogposts by me that deal with the Java situation on OpenMoko have a look at this: http://rschuster.blogs.evolvis.org/category/OpenMoko/ (With a little luck this will soon be available through planet.openmoko.org) Petr Vanek schrieb: how can i run java applications from other mobile phones on fr? Is it what is called JavaME? Is this available for fr? I have looked at jalimo and around but no clarity for me... What you usually want to run is a MIDlet or MIDP application. For this you can either use the microemulator or MIDPath on top of either Cacao+GNU Classpath or PhoneME Advanced. You can install midpath for OpenMoko through the Jalimo repository. All of this is in OE. So it could be added to the official feeds as well. Running MIDPath on PhoneME Advanced (PMEA for short) is currently not possible due to a bug in the MIDPath version in OE. I hope I can convince Guillaume to release another RC soon so that I can base the recipes in OE on it. For the user PMEA would have the advantage that it is tried and tested Sun code and additionally really fast. It is also compatible to SWT and can as such run application that are compatible to J2SE 1.3. Regards Robert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QCop server not running [FDOM]
Have you tried? ln /opt/Qtopia/bin/qcop /usr/bin/qcop -s proposed previously on the list? please specifiy FDOM in the topic to don't worry not-FDOM users with broken updates Regards David Samblas 02 +0200, Martin Vyšný escribió: Hi, I'm using the FDOM distro. I just updated packages with opkg update opkg upgrade and now the qtopia applications are failing to start: # DISPLAY=:0 /opt/Qtopia/bin/addressbook ApplicationLayer: Unable to connect to server, application layer will be disabled. Could not connect to QCop server; probably not running. Can you please help me on how to start the QCop server? ;) Thanks! Martin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mockup or what else?
I hope we will still seeing you writting here and help us to pimp our Neos as nowadays you only have achived. A really really big hug to you Raster :) El lun, 15-09-2008 a las 22:04 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra escribió: From which you also find sad news. :| On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 08:25:43PM +0200, Bumbl wrote: I found this at rasterman.com which is raster's homepage Natanael Arndt wrote: Am Montag, 15. September 2008 schrieb Bumbl: http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-01.png http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-02.png http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-03.png Are these mockups or where can I obtain this theme. It looks amazingly good. Cool, where did you find this? I only found this: http://52grad.de/.stuff/freerunner/ to pimp your FreeRunner. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FDOM tar.gz wrong root path
Beware, the last tar.gz has a wrong path , and whas under /var/tmp/root instead of / you boot on any distro you can access to the sd card partition and fix it manually mv /media/mmcblk0p2/var/tmp/root/* /media/mmcblk0p2/ New fixed tar version uploading now Sorry David ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM updated
El vie, 12-09-2008 a las 22:49 -0400, Tomas Riveros Schober escribió: Thank you very much for this! im still downloading this one, but if its as good as the last one, then its gonna rock! btw, thanks for the info about qtopia crashing afer an opkg update/upgrade, it was driving me nuts Sorry , if there is a way to protect files from being updadated will be very handy but seems opkg stills not doing so Tom David Samblas escribió: see wiki page for more details (thanks to all that help to mantain and correct it) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FDOM_-_a_Fat_and_Dirty_OM_based_distribution Added Pidgin, and Remoko and something else :) http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM Regards David Samblas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM updated
Hi Yann I strongly recomend you to allways flash the last release because I perform some manual adjustements that will be not updated through opkg update/ugrade If you are using the first release 20080905 you should comment the following lines in /etc/opkg.conf (I have missed to do so, fixed on the following releases) # Proxy Support #option http_proxy http://192.168.0.200:6588 #option ftp_proxy ftp://192.168.0.200:21 But again I recomend you to download and flash the lastest, or install in the sdcard , now I release a tar.gz file too to do so. Regards David El sáb, 13-09-2008 a las 11:04 +0200, Yann SLADEK escribió: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi there Thanks for the update. I've a question about that : do we need to reflash the neo with image file for each release or an opkg update/upgrade will be enough ? I've been trying the first release but wasn't able to opkg update/upgrade (conflicts in opkg sources list). Will next releases available by repository or something else ? Thanks for your answer Yann David Samblas a écrit : see wiki page for more details (thanks to all that help to mantain and correct it) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FDOM_-_a_Fat_and_Dirty_OM_based_distribution Added Pidgin, and Remoko and something else :) http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM Regards David Samblas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIy4IkkEZRefkDBDsRAnSMAKDDFA1Q/ZuoNBKP0c9yxZfqyaIXIACgmypU Vbta32v39aPTFPQ2YkXvpF4= =BOag -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM and such
El sáb, 13-09-2008 a las 09:40 +0100, Linus Gasser escribió: Hi list, I finally managed to download the FDOM 20080909 here in Tchad - over a 128kbps line this takes some time ;) Wow and I was complaining because of my slow 60kb/s upload rate... there are brave linux warriors out there arround the world And now the bad news ... there is and updated version 20080913 a little bigger but has remoko and Pidgin and some other fixes :) se the wiki page for more info http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FDOM_-_a_Fat_and_Dirty_OM_based_distribution After fighting with the device and suppressing the old debian from the MicroSD-card, it kind of runs nice. So here are my first impressions: - Delete OMView - I don't see the idea of this file-browser. On my phone it shows a very small font and I don't get it anyway I have fixed the theme and now looks more integrated on 200808 is not a file browser is a picture viewer with a filebrowser to find the pictures :) - Delete the installer at the bottom of the display - it's useless and takes away space Please post how to do it, I will readd the installer as other app when i was able to make submenus but I will be very happy if you tellme how to remove the bottom bar. - Suspend/Resume doesn't work reliably. Reading the list I tried * starting with external power attached - it works * starting without external power attached - it doesn't well, I tried only 2 times, so this might not be statistically conclusive. Anybody else sees the same thing? If it helps you , while auto suspend/resume has this issues I have disabled the auto suspend and only enable the blank screen, I supend it manually trough the power button and I have no problem at all, it wakes up on calls, and when I push the power button again. - SSH not working - I have to restart it by hand. I'm looking into this one strange, I have no such problem and no advice any one else has - MicroSD corruption - I got bitten by this one. But I can't recall whether it's the FDOM or the Debian I had on it. I had to say I has a testing distro on the sdcard and any version of 2008.08-updates or FDOM has corrupted it I Besides that, I changed the main SIM-card again to the NEO, I'll try it again as my main phone. And phypt rocks! You just need the keyboard to restart levels and such. Thanks, Thanks to you and your patience to download it Regards and a big hug ineiti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM updated
Any posibility to obtain the already compiled patched binary files? El sáb, 13-09-2008 a las 11:36 +0200, julien cubizolles escribió: Le samedi 13 septembre 2008 à 04:10 +0200, David Samblas a écrit : see wiki page for more details (thanks to all that help to mantain and correct it) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FDOM_-_a_Fat_and_Dirty_OM_based_distribution Added Pidgin, and Remoko and something else :) Thanks again, would you consider integrating Florian's patch to reenable the search bar in qtopia addressbook ? http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1966 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM updated
Seems you have been catched by the config issue, please do what indicated on the Warning part of the wiki cp /etc/X11/Xsession /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia.bk~ /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia and reboot the neo Do that any time qtopia-x11 is updated (or when you have the simptoms you have described) Regards David El sáb, 13-09-2008 a las 21:18 +0800, William Kenworthy escribió: Tried this for the first time and it looks good, but cant register the GSM (been trying for a few hours now) ... Log extract below - any clues? - I normally use 2007.2 updated which works fine. Also many apps dont start (dialler, calendar, contacts, ...) - is that expected? BillK Sep 13 20:54:59 om-gta02 user.notice root: ficgta01hardware plugin Sep 13 20:55:00 om-gta02 user.notice root: Modem : opening serial device /dev/pts/0 at 115200 Sep 13 20:55:00 om-gta02 user.notice root: Modem : Device: /dev/pts/0 is a tty device: True Sep 13 20:55:00 om-gta02 user.notice root: Modem : NONBLOCK successfully reset Sep 13 20:55:00 om-gta02 user.notice root: Modem : Opened /dev/pts/0 Sep 13 20:55:00 om-gta02 user.notice root: Modem : querying multiplexer plugin ficgta01multiplex Sep 13 20:55:01 om-gta02 user.notice root: AtChat : T : ^Z Sep 13 20:55:01 om-gta02 local0.warn /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd[1377]: gsm0710muxd.c:569:pseudo_device_read(): Write to a channel which wasn't acked to be open. Sep 13 20:55:01 om-gta02 local0.warn /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd[1377]: gsm0710muxd.c:569:pseudo_device_read(): Write to a channel which wasn't acked to be open. Sep 13 20:55:11 om-gta02 user.notice root: Mux : *** mux setup timed out *** Sep 13 20:55:11 om-gta02 user.notice root: AtChat : T : ^Z Sep 13 20:55:11 om-gta02 local0.warn /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd[1377]: gsm0710muxd.c:569:pseudo_device_read(): Write to a channel which wasn't acked to be open. Sep 13 20:55:21 om-gta02 user.notice root: Mux : *** mux setup timed out *** Sep 13 20:55:21 om-gta02 user.notice root: AtChat : T : ^Z Sep 13 20:55:21 om-gta02 local0.warn /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd[1377]: gsm0710muxd.c:569:pseudo_device_read(): Write to a channel which wasn't acked to be open. Sep 13 20:55:31 om-gta02 user.notice root: Mux : *** mux setup timed out *** Sep 13 20:55:31 om-gta02 user.notice root: AtChat : T : ^Z Sep 13 20:55:31 om-gta02 local0.warn /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd[1377]: gsm0710muxd.c:569:pseudo_device_read(): Write to a channel which wasn't acked to be open. Sep 13 20:55:41 om-gta02 user.notice root: Mux : *** mux setup timed out *** Sep 13 20:55:41 om-gta02 user.notice root: AtChat : T : ^Z Sep 13 20:55:41 om-gta02 local0.warn /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd[1377]: gsm0710muxd.c:569:pseudo_device_read(): Write to a channel which wasn't acked to be open. Sep 13 20:55:51 om-gta02 user.notice root: Mux : *** mux setup timed out *** Sep 13 20:55:51 om-gta02 user.notice root: AtChat : T : ^Z Sep 13 20:55:51 om-gta02 local0.warn /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd[1377]: gsm0710muxd.c:569:pseudo_device_read(): Write to a channel which wasn't acked to be open. Sep 13 20:56:01 om-gta02 user.notice root: Mux : *** mux setup timed out *** Sep 13 20:56:01 om-gta02 user.notice root: AtChat : T : ^Z Sep 13 20:56:01 om-gta02 local0.warn /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd[1377]: gsm0710muxd.c:569:pseudo_device_read(): Write to a channel which wasn't acked to be open. Sep 13 20:56:11 om-gta02 user.notice root: Mux : *** mux setup timed out *** Sep 13 20:56:11 om-gta02 user.notice root: AtChat : T : ^Z Sep 13 20:56:11 om-gta02 local0.warn /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd[1377]: gsm0710muxd.c:569:pseudo_device_read(): Write to a channel which wasn't acked to be open. Sep 13 20:56:21 om-gta02 user.notice root: Mux : *** mux setup timed out *** Sep 13 20:56:21 om-gta02 user.notice root: AtChat : T : ^Z Sep 13 20:56:21 om-gta02 local0.warn /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd[1377]: gsm0710muxd.c:569:pseudo_device_read(): Write to a channel which wasn't acked to be open. Sep 13 20:56:31 om-gta02 user.notice root: Mux : *** mux setup timed out *** Sep 13 20:56:31 om-gta02 user.notice root: AtChat : T : ^Z Sep 13 20:56:31 om-gta02 local0.warn /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd[1377]: gsm0710muxd.c:569:pseudo_device_read(): Write to a channel which wasn't acked to be open. Sep 13 20:56:41 om-gta02 user.notice root: Mux : *** mux setup timed out *** Sep 13 20:56:41 om-gta02 user.notice root: Initializing the modem failed. What should one do?... abort Sep 13 20:56:41 om-gta02 local0.info /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd[1377]: gsm0710muxd.c:609:pseudo_device_read(): Logical channel 1 for (null) closed Sep 13 20:56:41 om-gta02 user.notice root: The process exited: 6 normal: 0 Sep 13 21:01:50 om-gta02 user.notice root: Was asked to quit. Bye Bye On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 04:10 +0200, David Samblas wrote: see wiki page for more details (thanks to all that help to mantain and correct it) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FDOM_
Re: FDOM updated
El sáb, 13-09-2008 a las 09:04 -0700, Michael Shiloh escribió: David Samblas wrote: Added Pidgin, and Remoko and something else :) Pidgin! Woohoo! This is rapidly becoming my favorite image. Keep up the good work! What are you considering adding next? Do you already have a SIP app? Concret sugestions please :) But until I was able to add submenus(I will try some dirty trick with a pygtk app, any better solution as an already done one will be apreciated) I will freeze to adding apps , I know I can drag up and down but I prefer to see all my options at once in the main screen, so any clue of how to remove the botom bar will be apreciated, I will include de installer (assasin) as another app when submenu is enabled. I'm inmersed on another bit time consumming tasks so maybe on week or so there will be no other uploadings of new images but I will try to add all the good Ideas I have been reciving (search contact bar here we go :) ) a big hug to you, and to you all :) M ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM updated
Fixed thanks I hope the mirror will reply this rename shortly Regards El sáb, 13-09-2008 a las 15:08 -0400, Craig B. Allen escribió: For anyone like me who uses a script to flash, note that the rootfs has an extension jff2, not jffs2. - Craig ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM updated
Here is it PD.- In french still be a bad word :) think it but better not write ;) El sáb, 13-09-2008 a las 13:55 -0700, Christoph Siegenthaler escribió: Merde, I read the reply in this thread too late... Could someone send me the correct 89qtopia.bk~ file? I think I overwrote it... Thanks a lot in advance! David Samblas-3 wrote: ps!, This was a copypaste from the wiki thanks Rui Muigel, correcting it right now the intended instruction was cp /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia.bk~ /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia but I have added your chown one to the wiki Thanks again :) El sáb, 13-09-2008 a las 17:56 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra escribió: This will do a big booboo I hope you meant cd /etc/X11/Xsession.d cp 89qtopia.bk~ 89qtopia chmod a+rx 89qtopia (just in case it lost +x permissions...) Rui On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 06:46:12PM +0200, David Samblas wrote: Seems you have been catched by the config issue, please do what indicated on the Warning part of the wiki cp /etc/X11/Xsession /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia.bk~ /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia and reboot the neo Do that any time qtopia-x11 is updated (or when you have the simptoms you have described) Regards David El sáb, 13-09-2008 a las 21:18 +0800, William Kenworthy escribió: Tried this for the first time and it looks good, but cant register the GSM (been trying for a few hours now) ... Log extract below - any clues? - I normally use 2007.2 updated which works fine. Also many apps dont start (dialler, calendar, contacts, ...) - is that expected? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community 89qtopia.bk~ Description: application/shellscript ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fantastic Experience
I believe Sean and the rest of the Openmoko crowd was thinking in people like you when they decide to start this awesome trip ;) Thanks Scott for this encorageous post :) El jue, 11-09-2008 a las 20:49 -0700, SCarlson escribió: Hello All -- I'd like to pipe in with my New Freerunner experiences thus far. I have had my phone for 2 weeks. I loaded up OM2008.8-update. Here is the list : Solid GSM (Sending and Receiving). No Echo, clear calls, full bars. My SIM Card contact list imported automatically. SMS, Solid. Wifi, also works great. GPS works. 60 second TTFF and 40 second TTFF w/ external antenna (This is without the capacitor fix) microSd works. Suspend/Resume .. solid (minus the GUI setting having no effect. but I don't care, I just suspend manually with the power button when I'm not using it). I made a usb cable, so now my phone can receive standard USB devices.. this opens many doors. When I was shopping for a mobile computer/phone, I scraped the planet for something open and hackable. What I found was nice machines with propriety software that goes through a Telecom company, which is then purposely crippled and released for public consumption. Most of the crippling process is based on a Business model that nickels and dimes us to death for services and features that (I believe) we should already have. In the end, the only answer for me was to by the GTA02. I'd like to say, that I'm here to stay, on the band wagon, lets kick some ass... Completely Satisfied, Scott R Carlson ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FDOM updated
see wiki page for more details (thanks to all that help to mantain and correct it) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FDOM_-_a_Fat_and_Dirty_OM_based_distribution Added Pidgin, and Remoko and something else :) http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM Regards David Samblas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customized layout for illume keyboard
This will be added to the future FDOM too :) El jue, 11-09-2008 a las 02:17 +0200, Thomas B. escribió: On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 12:40:18AM +0100, Thomas White wrote: Thomas B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I customized the layout of the illume Numbers keyboard a bit, and thought I'd share the result with the community. EXACTLY what I was looking for (and was about to have a go at creating myself). Many thanks! Glad that I could help! Regards, Thomas PS: I forgot to provide uninstallation instructions: In the case you or anyone trying this eventually finds that they don't like the layouts, getting rid of them is as easy as rm -rf ~/.e/e/keyboards; killall -HUP enlightenment (provided that you don't have your own custom layouts in there). Illume will then reload the default layouts from /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download
Great :) one of the objectives fullfilled El jue, 11-09-2008 a las 13:26 +0100, Joseph Reeves escribió: Couldn't agree with this any more; thanks David! Joseph 2008/9/9 Andreas Micklei [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Brilliant! Of course the software and information to get to this software level is freely available. But your distribution is a HUGE timesaver allowing me to concentrate on the important stuff. Thanks for sharing! regards, Andreas Micklei ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: distro nightmares ... can fdom help?
Well a lot of information here I hope you or some one else report/reported to the tracking list. I will try to anser to the question can FDOM help? El jue, 11-09-2008 a las 15:44 +0200, Franky Van Liedekerke escribió: Hi all, (to be fare: I compare with my 4 years old sony ericsson P900 phone, and that one wins without problems for now) (Warning: no ranting please, I'm just summing up all current bugs I encounter and hope to get some pointers for fixes) For the moment I seem to be unable to find a distro where the basics work without issues (and I flashed/upgraded/installed already a number of times): - booting time: 2/3 minutes for asu. I can accept this for a beta functioning device, but I hope this gets better in the future. Yes, I know the wiki page for this ... luckely I don't reboot py phone too often No same as 2008.8-updates - receive calls: calls arrive double on qtopia distro (not asu, no no sim card issue here), so for each call I end up having a missed call entry as well. Very annoying. - speaker: qtopia emits a very loud tone when on speaker - echo: the asu distro doesn't have the echo fix yet I don't know what asu version did you tried but I have no detected echo problems on the 2008.8-updates, so FDOM has no echo - choose a ringtone: ok, I can replace the wav file, but come on, no app available at all for asu? No but If anyone develop one I will include it on FDOM as soon as aviable - alarm: I use my cell phone for wake-up calls, but ASU isn't reliable to give me the alarm. The phone unsuspends on time, but the alarm doesn't sound, or an undetermined amount of minutes too late. This seems to be the only phone in the world with this problem... I have readed (not tested yet) than the last 2008.8-updates has solve this problem - prevent the copying of sim-card contacts to your phone (qtopia and asu). Ok, I can remove them from the sim, or change the sqlite db on te phone, but this is a basic setting on any phone. - remove all contacts from the phone (qtopia and asu). Again I can just clean up the sqlite db file here, but a simple sql script executed by a gui would be nice. I was able to delete the contacts and messages directly from the apps on the phone without the sim card, and no need to access the sqlite db. - mplayer: plays mp3 just fine, but qtopia or asu media players are unable to play back one mp3 fine without hickups or distortion (distortion can be fixed by editing the mp3 and decreasing the volume by 20dB). Is this gstreamer bogging down the phone or just bad mp3 decoding? I don't know, but I was thinking about do a basic frontend to mplayer like the omview to replace the media player, a file filebrowser and a basic control trough mouse gestures in the touch screen, but no find time yet to get my hands dirty on this - wifi: why on earth isn't wifi taking the nameservers given by dhcp? Is it the resolvconf issue that needs fixing here? Even my old archos 430 did that just fine from the beginning. Now I needed the usb0 connection working just to be able to get the wifi working, since no terminal app is installed by default on the phone. I did use the resolvconf wiki page to help me out here, but no dice for encrypted networks. Mofi maybe? Both a terminal and Mofi are included on FDOM, but is courios, I have to not to conect to usb before I want the wifi to make it work :) - speed: asu reaction time is just too slow. Qtopia is reasonable here. I have no feel any relevance diference here (I't true I have not tested the last qtopia version, so no much criteria here) FSDOM will have the same reaction as 2008.8-updates - bluetooth: no app on asu, and the qtopia-x11 bluetooth app doesn't do anything. Remoko is tested an will be included in the next version of FSDOM it works through bluethooth, so don't loos you hope yet :) I haven't even tried image viewing yet, or gps ... I'ts a pitty freerunnes has a great resolution on image, and on sunny days gps works pretty well I would have thought to be able to iron out bugs and such, but I was expecting basic working functionality. For now I have my freerunner lying on my desk at home, doing nothing at all ... Poor freerunner, surelly a lot of clean-soul good geeks but with no resources will be happy to take care of this freerunner, make it complile, or test new apps , or only taking a walk to help complete OSM,or...(add here a trillion of things people are doing/want to do if the had a neo) Does the fdom version of ASU addresses some of the plain asu issues? Or any help solving some of these? I *really* want to show off my freerunner ... Fat and Dirty Openmoko is nothing more than a 2008.8-update with apps installed and some fixes maybe it can fit you needs or not only you can anwer that question, try it and if you are happy/unhappy please let me know, I will be glad if you can send me and exhaustive bug/improvements list as you have done with other distributions. Franky
Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download
If its include in OM2008.08 then it is or it will if you update (rememeber that some times some updated packages will sustitute some custom confs (example /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia) I will mantain a wathelse.bk~ in the same directory with the costumized script in to easy recover it El mar, 09-09-2008 a las 12:14 -0400, Craig B. Allen escribió: you have aviable on http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM a rootfs/kenel image ready to flash of an OM2008.08-updates distribution with some apps already installed and some fixes posted in the lists done. Does this include a fix to SD card corruption upon suspending? - Craig p.s. looks interesting - installing now! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download
Thanks to Minh Ha-Duong I got a brand new chapter in the Distribution wikipage at Costumer Driven distros :) so I have created a FSOM wiki page that will surelly more actualized than the readmes ( now and forward an snapshot of the wiki page) :) El mar, 09-09-2008 a las 11:53 -0700, Michael Shiloh escribió: David Samblas wrote: Hi there, you have aviable on http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM a rootfs/kenel image ready to flash of an OM2008.08-updates distribution with some apps already installed and some fixes posted in the lists done. Thank you so much! I've loaded this and was greeted with a nice full screen of applications. I will now explore! Will you make a wiki page or shall I? I think the distributions page lists a number of unnofficial images such as scardycat, etc. Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download
El mar, 09-09-2008 a las 23:35 +0200, Jay Vaughan escribió: can anyone work out what works and what doesnt? You are also doing so :) thanks calls seem to be fine, though i've had a few hangups mid-call already alas .. and for the life of me i can't get it to connect to my wifi network, which is WEP 128bit HEX .. some voodoo here? Sorry , no help here that it works for me and for someone else, not very sure but seems that WEP has some problems with wpa_supplicant, but again I advice I'm not sure generally a lot more interesting-looking than qtopia, but very thorny too, in bits! how do you quit an app? Try opkg remove wathelseyouwanttoquit, lo0k at opkg options to be more agressively removing also dependences,this way is very easy to break something ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download
El mar, 09-09-2008 a las 23:35 +0200, Jean-Eric Cuendet escribió: 2008/9/9 David Samblas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi there, you have aviable on http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM a rootfs/kenel image ready to flash of an OM2008.08-updates distribution with some apps already installed and some fixes posted in the lists done. here you have more detailed information http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM/README.txt I recommend you to use wget -c to retrieve the files because of the server seems to cut the connection time to time, a most robust mirror is on the way Sugesstions , comments, and anything else will be welcome Nice work guy! Thanks, man I would propose that instead of creating yet another distribut (tm) you provide modified packages that can just be installed through OPKG on Om2008.x 2 main reasons I will not do it The intention is to have an online aviable demo image file ready to flash (nothing more nothing less) fell free to compare it with an Clean OM2008.08 and add all dependenciecies and the modified confs in one ipkg and then I only will asure it will work on a clean om2008.08-update of the day the ipkg was made but I believe is quick an easier to flashit or untarit to a sdcard partition (next FSDOM release will have tar.gz version :) I promise) Second (composed) reason Time constrains, lack of knowlege and lazyness, I have all of them :) What do you think? It's no criticism, just a thought. I prefer to give ideas to those who already upload packages to Multiverse. So if some modification I make on FSOM goes upstream then next releases will catch his own modification when updated :) I can provide you with server CPU time to build the packages and upload them to Multiverse for example. -jec Regards and a hug David Samblas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Thanks to everybody at OpenMoko and all the contributers
Raster you are the top author in my interesting mail tagged list :) Thanks to the hole community and thaks to Openmoko Inc to create an be part of it El mié, 10-09-2008 a las 12:12 +0200, julien cubizolles escribió: Le mercredi 10 septembre 2008 à 11:15 +0200, Michele Renda a écrit : I want to add my thank too... to all the person you listed and to all the other persons that are also working in this ML giving suggestion and helping who had some problems. A realy good job! Thanks! Let me add my thanks to the above mentionned. And a special mention to Rasterman, for his keyboard, his thoroughly detailed posts... Julien. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro
LOOOL I Love OpenMoko-Gentoo = O.M.G! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download
El mié, 10-09-2008 a las 10:21 +0200, julien cubizolles escribió: Le mardi 09 septembre 2008 à 17:38 +0200, David Samblas a écrit : http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM/README.txt Nice work ! I see that you mention the gprs gui services. Does the warning message about gprs multiplexing not working if you have a sim pin (who doesn't ?) still apply ? It's been scaring me from testing gprs for a while now. Where did you catch that message?, when is produced?, what are the concequences to try than scares you? Regards ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download
Ok I now understand , I believe you don't have to worry about this because as far as I know the pin dialog arise if you have a 2008.8 sim card compatible, and I have no report any one loosing gsm by trying to activate gprs on FSDOM Regards El mié, 10-09-2008 a las 13:50 +0200, julien cubizolles escribió: Le mercredi 10 septembre 2008 à 13:00 +0200, David Samblas a écrit : Does the warning message about gprs multiplexing not working if you have a sim pin (who doesn't ?) still apply ? It's been scaring me from testing gprs for a while now. Where did you catch that message?, when is produced?, what are the concequences to try than scares you? It's the banner at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_GPRS#Option_1:_With_GSM_multiplexing_and_with_a_GUI I guess the GUI mentionned is the same servies application used in your image. According to this message, I won't be able to register on the gsm network since I need to enter a PIN code, and then I get neither gsm nor gprs. Am I missing something here ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download
Tanks fixed :) El mié, 10-09-2008 a las 17:19 +0300, Kostis Anagnostopoulos escribió: On Wed 10 Sep 2008 13:27:15 David Samblas wrote: Thanks to Minh Ha-Duong I got a brand new chapter in the Distribution wikipage at Costumer Driven distros :) so I have created a FSOM wiki page that will surelly more actualized than the readmes ( now and forward an snapshot of the wiki page) The new wiki-page is named FSDOM. Assuming you meant to call it FDOM, did you? Regards for your Efforts, Kostis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download
El jue, 11-09-2008 a las 00:18 +0200, julien cubizolles escribió: Le mercredi 10 septembre 2008 à 14:41 +0200, David Samblas a écrit : Ok I now understand , I believe you don't have to worry about this because as far as I know the pin dialog arise if you have a 2008.8 sim card compatible, and I have no report any one loosing gsm by trying to activate gprs on FSDOM OK, I installed your image and everything works perfectly, including gprs. Thanks a lot. Thanks to you to test the distro Btw, where did you find qtopia-x11-calendar ? I'd like to get qtopia-x11-tasks/todo if such a thing exists. just type on the terminal or on ssh session while net access #opkg install qtopia-phone-x11-todolist Julien. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[EMAIL PROTECTED] up and running :)
Thanks to Michael Siloh, I can proudly annouce the opening of the spanish openmoko list, http://lists.projects.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/local-openmoko-spain This intended to help the spanish non-english skilled users to help and be helped by the Openmoko community, the spanish skilled-enough users will act as bridge between international and local group Any english spanish-skilled are welcome :), even anyone anything-skilled are welcome too :) So to avoid any flamewar, the idea is to make the community grow not to split it. So I encorage anyone to do the same for his localgroup. we also have an nabble interface http://n2.nabble.com/Openmoko-spanish-community-list-f1077272.html meanwhile has not been published in the new list ,you can look at the old messages in google groups list at http://groups.google.es/group/openmoko-spain Best Regards and thanks again Michael for all the efford and to no smash the BT fly (any one asking himself what a BT fly is please send a private mail directly to me :) ) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro
You can allways use compiled package and avoid to compile anything on gentoo,, and due we all use almos the same machine is no sense to compile over and over again, only if you find that a packges is not already compliled you can do it your self and the share with the rest to avoid it. Regards David Samblas On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Rodney Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 9, 2008, at 7:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 02:51:14PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 01:00:36PM +0100, Al Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 09 September 2008, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: I hope you guys don't mind killing your phone or uSD's memory sooner than everyone else :) Why? Are you making some unwarranted assumptions about using Gentoo on embedded systems? No unwarranted assumption, the only argument you could throw back at me is an argument against using Gentoo instead of any .deb or .rpm based distribution ;) Please, no distro-war, you're free to kill your flash devices sooner ;) Why would it kill the flash? With all of the thrashing, while it's attempting to compile everything? I know that I have gentoo on a MythTV box, and when installing anything heavy, forget using it for 1/2 to 3/4 of a day. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download
Hi there, you have aviable on http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM a rootfs/kenel image ready to flash of an OM2008.08-updates distribution with some apps already installed and some fixes posted in the lists done. here you have more detailed information http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM/README.txt I recommend you to use wget -c to retrieve the files because of the server seems to cut the connection time to time, a most robust mirror is on the way Sugesstions , comments, and anything else will be welcome Regards and a hug David Samblas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download
:) please let make spectations at safety levels :) FDOM is not more than a few opkg installs, a little bit of glue here and a few painting there but basically stills a OM2008.8-update :) Jay (and others) I sugesst you to backup your own image first , just as precaution :). Here is a method i have used to generate the image of FSDOM. on Neo(or though an ssh session on Neo) opkg mkfs-jffs2 mkdir /var/tmp/root mount -t jffs2 /dev/mtdblock6 /var/tmp/root on PC (pv used to se the progres of the operation, executed on ubuntu 8.04, change neos ip if needed) sudo aptitude install pv ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] mkfs.jffs2 -d /var/tmp/root -e 128 --pad --no-cleanmarkers -x lzo | pv -W the_name_of_your_rootfs_image_here.jffs2 scp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/boot/uImage-2.6.24 the_name_of_your_kernel_image_here.bin Regards and thanks you all :) El mar, 09-09-2008 a las 19:09 +0200, Jay Vaughan escribió: p.s. looks interesting - installing now! after a long hiatus away from the freerunner hacking for a month or so (hey, so i got an iphone, sue me!) i am very glad to see that there are folks now sharing booting images! this is gotta be good for freerunner now, which btw i -have- been using as a main cell phone a bit more recently as well too (iphone calls are expensive), so there is trepidation about taking my - Working Freerunner - and putting some random image on it! but, thats what its for, so .. here goes!! me too :) ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download
El mar, 09-09-2008 a las 23:30 +, JW escribió: Jean-Eric Cuendet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In the README, I see:-tangogps -configured to use google mapsDoes that means WIFI is needed for TangoGPS to work?Or is there a way to download Google Maps? tangoGPS allows you to download tiles of maps (at various scales) and store on SD card when in range of Wifi for later use when out and about (works with OSM or googlemaps) well on sd card or whatever you have configured in the config tab on the Map Repositories in the Cache Dir field, each source has his own independant dir in FSDOM are all preconfigured to be stored n their own dir inside /home/root/Maps, you can easyly create an ln to an sd dir or mount a sd parttion in that directory, or change the config of course ;) tangoGPS also allows GPRS or WIFI instant download of maps when needed [disclaimer - this knowledge all second hand] To download maps, tap on the map n the popup menu select map download, and then select the deepth of maps you want to download JW ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download
El mar, 09-09-2008 a las 19:53 -0400, Charles Pax escribió: When I hit the power button the screen faded out (suspend?), but I can't get it to come back on. I was running TangoGPS at the time. Anyone have a hint? seems to be a kernel bug waiting to be fixed http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1884 Remember that FSOM is basically an 2008.08-update Regards -Charles ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: A little zenity-gui for flashing images to the neo
#which command_here
will return the full path of the command.
example:
#which which
/usr/bin/which
El lun, 08-09-2008 a las 08:59 +0200, Daniel Hedblom escribió:
Nice work,
I used the dfu-util from debian Lenny that gets installed in /usr/bin
instead of /usr/local/bin. Anyone that has a nice way of checking the
users paths for a specific app?
//danielh
2008/9/8 Dale Maggee [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Charles Pax wrote:
On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 6:34 PM, Joel Newkirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Sounds like you did a cut'n'paste from email. The problem is that long
lines are wrapped, which breaks programs/scripts. There's at least three
places in the script that suffer from word-wrap, including several lines
that start at line 66.
Yup, did a cut n' paste. I tried the attachment and it worked just fine.
Maybe a future version can offer to fetch dfu-util. Thanks for the help.
-Charles
Nice suggestion! Done!
-Dale
#!/bin/bash
# dfu-util Image-Flashing Gui 0.2
function check_dfu {
if [ ! -x $dfutils_path ]; then
#look in current folder...
if [ -x './dfu-util' ]; then
dfutils_path='./dfu-util'
else
zenity --question --text The dfu utility could not
be found at $dfutils_path, or is not exceutable. Do you want to
automagically download it from downloads.openmoko.org?
if [ $? = 0 ]; then
rm ./dfu-util /dev/null
wget
http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/dfu-util
chmod a+x ./dfu-util /dev/null
dfutils_path='./dfu-util'
else
dfutils_path=$(zenity --file-selection
--title=Locate the dfu-util executable: --filename=$dfutils_path)
fi
if [ -z $dfutils_path ]; then
echo Cancelled!
exit
fi
#check selection...
check_dfu
fi
fi
}
function perform_flash {
# $1 - what we're flashing (for display)
# $2 - dfu-params
# $3 - file to flash
echo
echo *** Flashing $1 with $3 ...
echo
$dfutils_path $2 $3 2 $tmp_error_log_path
# add the following line to the previous line to get back the zenity
progress dialog:
# | zenity --progress --pulsate --percentage=0 --title Flashing in
progress.. --auto-close
if [ ${PIPESTATUS[0]} != 0 ];then
zenity --error --text Some error occured while flashing
$1.\n\nError message:\n`cat $tmp_error_log_path`
exit
else
#sleep to allow dfu to reset...
sleep 2
fi
}
dfutils_path='/usr/local/bin/dfu-util'
check_dfu
tmp_error_log_path='/tmp/flash-error-log'
ans=$(zenity --list --text What do you wanna flash? --title dfu-util
gui --checklist --column Pick --column Option TRUE Root-Filesystem TRUE
Kernel FALSE Bootloader)
if [ -z $ans ]; then
#handle cancel / no selection...
echo Nothing to do!
exit
fi
txt=The flashing will now start.\n\nMake sure your Neo is connected to the
USB-Device and booted into the Nor (for kernel and rootfs) or Nand (for
u-boot) screen before proceeding.\nRemember that flashing a large image like
a rootfs will take some time so don't abort it.\n\n
if [ -n `echo $ans | grep Root-Filesystem` ];then
du_param_r='-a rootfs -R -D'
rootfs=True
img_file_r=$(zenity --file-selection --title=Select an image-file
for the ROOTFS:)
if [ $img_file_r = ]; then
echo Cancelled!
exit
fi
txt=$txt - Flashing rootfs with $img_file_r \n\n
fi
if [ -n `echo $ans | grep Kernel` ];then
du_param_k='-a kernel -R -D'
kernel=True
img_file_k=$(zenity --file-selection --title=Select an image-file
for the KERNEL:)
if [ $img_file_k = ]; then
echo Cancelled!
exit
fi
txt=$txt - Flashing kernel with $img_file_k \n\n
fi
if [ -n ` echo $ans | grep Bootloader` ];then
du_param_u='-a u-boot -R -D'
uboot=True
img_file_u=$(zenity --file-selection --title=Select an image-file
for UBOOT:)
if [ $img_file_u = ]; then
echo Cancelled!
exit
fi
txt=$txt - Flashing uboot with $img_file_u \n\n
fi
touch $tmp_error_log_path
zenity --info --text $txt
if [ $rootfs = True ]; then
perform_flash rootfs $du_param_r $img_file_r
fi
if [ $kernel = True ]; then
perform_flash
Re: How to change the GTK theme on 2008.8 update
Thanks Natanael, terminal and tangogps are readable again :) On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Natanael Arndt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Dienstag, 2. September 2008 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño): Natanael Arndt wrote: Hallo, in the early versions of 2007 there where these nice png grafics on the gtk buttons, but later they has been removed, because it was to slow. Now in 2008 there is again this slow and nice gtk theme, how can i change this to the faster one? opkg install http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2007.2/armv4t/moko-gtk-engine_0 . 1.0+svnr4411-r0_armv4t.ipk http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2007.2/armv4t/moko-gtk-theme_0.1 .0+svnr4411-r0_armv4t.ipk I don't really know why they're not so update in 2008.8! Cool, thankyou. Could somebody responsible for the repository put this in there, please? be blessed Natanael -- Web: http://natanael.comiles.eu E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber/XMPP: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 168210209 Skype: white_gecko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2008.8 - latest update - FR suspends after 30 secs - unconditionally
seems that the 20080901 solves this, but no apps :) only settings, I suppose there will be no problem on intall them from repository this afternoon I will give a try On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Maciej Delmanowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Aug 31, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: 1) http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8-update/ Hello everyone, it's my first post here. :-) It might be blunt, but does anyone have old images of 2008.8-update without this problem with unconditional suspend? Or maybe there could be an archive of, say, week of packages (they have date in their filename anyway), so if one version doesn't suddenly do what you want, you can always try the previous one? Best regards, Maciej Delmanowski / harnir ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
testing 20080901 first steps to 2008.09??
I'm only corious, I have being taking a look to the http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing-om-gta02-20080901.rootfs.tar.gz intalling it to my sd card, Inspite the it's really barebones, I have seen very interestings things by default, the raster ilume pack: qwerty on/off button the illume keyboard (oh Yes! :) ) illume configuration the backgound image is pretty zen and beatifull and screen dims smothly. Of course it's not functional at all because it has no apps but settings (that doesn't work for me), and I was unnable to ssh to it so I was no able to not further testing, but doesn't matter because is clear is a proof-of concept release. I will wait for the next test release (maybe tomorrow?, it's a really dayly?) My question is , I can assume the good things mentioned avobe will be mantained in the oficial (semi-stable) 2008.09 release? Have you decide the date off that 2008.09 release? Regards ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: illume-config-illume on 2008.8-updates
El lun, 01-09-2008 a las 11:35 -0600, -stacy escribió: 1. opkg install -force-overwrite install http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/all/illume-config-illume_0.0+svnr35693-r13_all.ipk 2. opkg install illume-config (get qwery button) 3. echo 'E_PROFILE=-profile illume' /etc/enlightenment/default_profile (switch to the illume profile from asu) 4. rm -rf ~/.e/e/config/illume 5. add export QTOPIA_NO_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD=1 in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia 6. Reboot It should work should being the operative word. I have done all of the above and still do not have a full qwerty keyboard. # opkg list_installed | grep illume illume - 0.0+svnr35693-r13 - illume-config - 0.0+svnr35693-r13 - illume-config-illume - 0.0+svnr35693-r13 - illume-dicts-default - 0.0+svnr217-r12 - illume-dicts-english-us - 0.0+svnr35693-r13 - illume-keyboards-default - 0.0+svnr35693-r13 - illume-keyboards-numbers - 0.0+svnr35693-r13 - illume-keyboards-terminal - 0.0+svnr35693-r13 - illume-theme-freesmartphone - 0.0+gitr5cdedae0e45911ef10f6966587e7f3e842b5d2bd-r0 - # cat /etc/enlightenment/default_profile E_PROFILE=-profile illume # grep QTOPIA_NO_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia export QTOPIA_NO_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD=1 # what am I missing? go to the illume configuration select keyboard and change none to default -stacy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
