Re: emulator something like greenphone vmware?
No, I don't need hardware emulator. I need interface emulator :). Where I can play with phone's interface and maybe onboard software w/o buying the phone. It's ok if it will be compiled for i386 or whatever. 2007/1/26, Richi Plana [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 21:14 +0100, Rodolphe Ortalo wrote: Le jeudi 25 janvier 2007 à 10:20 +0200, Denis Kot a écrit : Hi all I did searching by lists but didn't find anything about emulator, so my question is: is there will be something like emulator like greenphone has? so I (and others) can play with phone virtualy and make decision to buy it or not. If I understood correctly, the simplest way is to use xoo (nested X11 server with surrounding decoration) and run OpenMoko applications (Intel version) on it. If I understand the original poster correctly, he's looking for a hardware emulator. Personally, I would like to see an emulator for the Samsung s3c2410 as well. What instruction set does it use? Its own? ARM? Is there an emulator? Can the emulator be set to emulate all the devices (or whatever is attached to the host computer)? -- Richi ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Denis Kot denis?jabber.org.by ICQ: 13680126 Mobil: +375 29 6-1234-78 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [moved to openmoko-community]Re: Translators needed?
I can try to help to translate to Russian. 2007/1/30, Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Salve José! Welcome to Openmoko :) I'm just a student tring to support the community, so we do not have an official list moderator, and the official openmoko team member are very busy. Your mail was send to the wrong list... On Tue, 30 Jan 2007, José Suárez wrote: Hi to everybody. I've been quite excited about the OpenMoko development and release schedule. I'm pretty sure I would like to buy one Neo1973 when they were available and became usable. I'm not a developer The mailinglist openmoko-devel is only about programming. Your kind offer to support openmoko should be send to the openmoko-community mailinglist. I was so free to answer your mail on this other list. When you haven't subscibed it yet, please subscribe openmoko-community, now. Because the people are very busy, some better informations are missing - e.g. an automaticaly welcome message that explains the use of the list a little better this just have to wait until the first Neo1973 are ready ;) and don't know how to code, but I would like to contribute to the OpenMoko project to make it great. Given that the only way I think I could help at the moment is by translating some of the UI/GUI messages (later when the phone is out I would like to test the apps and report bugs) I want to know if there is any need for translators. If so, I would like to volunteer for the translation of whatever messages into Spanish. Translation of GUI, of help/man pages and other documentations is IMHO very important to make projects more populare. Even Debian and Ubuntu lakes whith translations and due this it has unused popularity potential. Greetings, rob PS: Just an example for english only sides, see an the pages about Debian/Ubuntu installer for Windows32: http://www.goodbye-microsoft.com/ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe ;) Thanks for the effort and time you guys are putting into OpenMoko's development. It will surely rock! ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Denis Kot denis?jabber.org.by ICQ: 13680126 Mobil: +375 29 6-1234-78 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
NXP Nexperia
Hi What do you think about this? http://www.nxp.com/news/content/file_1298.html -- Denis Kot denis?jabber.org.by ICQ: 13680126 Mobil: +375 29 6-1234-78 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wiki is open
better look here! http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Look_%26_Feel I want it much more now!! :) 2007/2/14, Richard Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 2/14/07, Piotr Duda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and so bugzilla: http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/ and also: svn co http://svn.openmoko.org/trunk trunk :-) Richard ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Denis Kot denis?jabber.org.by ICQ: 13680126 Mobil: +375 29 6-1234-78 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko wiki/bugzilla/etc are up but are not responding
working fine from Belarus... 2007/2/14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Looks like we brought down the server(s). We must have all jumped on at the same time. Let's give them a bit of time to fix the problem without forcing them to move to bigger servers, which would take longer. And perhaps we should set up mirrors as soon as possible. I've never set up a mirror - what's involved in that? Michael ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Denis Kot denis?jabber.org.by ICQ: 13680126 Mobil: +375 29 6-1234-78 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Getting_Openmoko_working_on_host_with_Xoo
Great, finally I've got it working with xoo. But I've two problems with it: 1. no cursor over xoo screen 2. any application seems to be running in background of desktop and I think both problems because of desktop is always on foreground -- Denis Kot denis?jabber.org.by ICQ: 13680126 Mobil: +375 29 6-1234-78 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
what about localized versions of wiki?
something like ru.wiki.openmoko.org, de.wiki.openmoko.org etc? I'm ready to maintain Russian version of wiki. -- Denis Kot denis?jabber.org.by ICQ: 13680126 Mobil: +375 29 6-1234-78 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: what about localized versions of wiki?
2007/3/7, Jon Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 15:05 +0200, Denis Kot wrote: something like ru.wiki.openmoko.org, de.wiki.openmoko.org etc? I'm ready to maintain Russian version of wiki. Just go ahead and use what is there to translate... already doing -- Denis Kot denis?jabber.org.by ICQ: 13680126 Mobil: +375 29 6-1234-78 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: community Digest, Vol 17, Issue 9
2007/3/7, Jarod Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2007/3/7, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From: Denis Kot [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: OpenMoko -- OpenMoko community@lists.openmoko.org Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 15:05:42 +0200 Subject: what about localized versions of wiki? something like ru.wiki.openmoko.org, de.wiki.openmoko.org etc? I'm ready to maintain Russian version of wiki. I'm also translating some pages of the wiki into Chinese Simplified (zh_cn). But I just make new pages adding suffix /zh_cn to existing pages such as http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page/zh_cn Great! Russian translators can start translating from this page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page/ru -- Denis Kot denis?jabber.org.by ICQ: 13680126 Mobil: +375 29 6-1234-78 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: UI ideas/questions or can we animate things as smooth as iPhone?
I think you should... fork. One group for GTK and other for something else. :) 2007/6/7, Florent THIERY [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would say, considering the fact that the apps ecosystem hasn't flourished yet, is it really too late to switch? In the rest of this mail, please assume it is not. How detached is the underlying processes/functions and GUI from each other? How difficult will it be to just pull a different GUI layer on top of the phone functions? The openmoko team can choose among technos that separate the two layers. If you choose to develop (local) web applications for instance, then only the backend of the web rendering engine is the criteria. Switching from gdk to qt libs (which have had lots of embedded-oriented optimizations) will require only changing the rendering engine (webkit-gdk or webkit-qt), the backend isn't a concern. Yet, for traditional applications... If you choose to develop your applications using a general purpose scripting language (python/ruby/whatever), using GUI bindings that support multiple backends (such as [1] [2] ) could let time for the final decision... The clutter toolkit seems more and more interesting, because it supports: * GTK+ embedding * Language bindings for Perl and Python * Provides a fixed-point API [4] But it would also mean: * no apps before P2 model * no clutter-based openmoko devices on non-OpenGL-capable devices [1] http://wiki.python.org/moin/AnyGui [2] http://wiki.python.org/moin/Ocean [3] http://cairographics.org/backends/ [4]http://www.clutter-project.org/docs/clutter-clutter-fixed.html Any thoughts? Florent ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Denis Kot denis?jabber.org.by ICQ: 13680126 Mobil: +375 29 6-1234-78 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Why You May Not Want An iPhone
http://www.forbes.com/home/wireless/2007/06/08/iphone-problems-apple-tech-wireless-cx_df_0611iphonemain.html -- Denis Kot denis?jabber.org.by ICQ: 13680126 Mobil: +375 29 6-1234-78 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: PDA/portable keyboard that can be used with Neo1973
check this: http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/8193/ :) 2007/7/9, Pranav Desai [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello All, Does anyone have any recommendations on keyboards that can be used with the Neo1973. bluetooth, USB, etc. I have seen some online, but most of them seems to be compatible with one or other type of PDA, so I am guessing a universal one would be better for Neo1973 .. Thanks -- Pranav -- http://pd.dnsalias.org ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Denis Kot denis?jabber.org.by ICQ: 13680126 Mobil: +375 29 6-1234-78 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Store info - shipping costs, credit card support
Also I have a friend sitting now in hong kong and willing to buy this phone for me, but shipping cost is 72$ to HK... 2007/7/9, Attila Csipa [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sunday 08 July 2007 22:21:56 Eric van Horssen wrote: Shipping the normal edition to the Netherlands: WORLDWIDE_EXPEDITED $71.85 USD $371.85 USD Apparently Europe is pretty bad regarding shipping costs. Most EU countries seem to be 70-100$ for the basic edition, and even compared to that I'm in a group who would have to pay at least 150 USD (!!!) for shipping to Europe. That's a bit disappointing to say the least :( For 2 Neos it's cheaper to fly to the States and pick them up personally than have them shipped here :) :( ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Denis Kot denis?jabber.org.by ICQ: 13680126 Mobil: +375 29 6-1234-78 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Oceans
what about Hong Kong? shipping cost is about 75$, but I'm sure it's more closer to Taiwan than US ;) 2007/7/10, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Jul 9, 2007, at 8:35 PM, Ben wrote: On 7/1/07, Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/28/07, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For phase 1 the shipping costs might be a bit high. Perhaps something like US$40 for Australia. For phase 2 we're hoping to get more local distributors. My shipping options are US$81 or US$87 for Australia for the Neo Base and around US$117 for the Advanced - this seems a bit excessive, given the ~US$40 you mentioned earlier... Sorry about this. We are trying to find cheaper ways to get these to you. But I don't see any quick solution. -Sean ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Denis Kot denis?jabber.org.by ICQ: 13680126 Mobil: +375 29 6-1234-78 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko Forums Update...
2007/7/27, Kyle Bassett [EMAIL PROTECTED]: For those of you who are unable to use the forums on a consistent basis, I am actively searching for a solution for integrating the mailing lists, NNTP, and forums; as one community. take a look at http://www.jivesoftware.com/products/clearspace/clearspacex.jsp -- Denis Kot denis?jabber.org.by ICQ: 13680126 Mobil: +375 29 6-1234-78 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
