Re: Launcher/Home Page (Proof of concept) Working Release
so - the question I have - should this be a separate app - or should this be considered a proposal for the new Paroli UI? Maybe your right with Paroli UI, but I, as SHR user, would more like to see it as part of libframeworkd-phonegui-efl ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Unstable] Battery Hotswapping
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 00:21, The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I'm trying to hotswap the battery in SHR-unstable, and it's not going well. The GSM chip never comes back online, and the phone section of the settings menu locks up when it tries to load the modules. I have to reboot the phone to get it to work again, and this makes the entire process of hotswapping a pointless waste of time. GSM can't work without battery. You have to turn off GSM before changing bat. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB networking MAC regression (aka the usb0 - eth0 change)
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 16:34, Nicolas Cavallari batch...@free.fr wrote: I don't want to try SHR-unstable right now (i use my FR as my main phone), but hacking the g_ether.sh script to do the same thing also fix the problem. Well, for me SHR-unstable is more usable as daily phone than SHR-testing, but that's only my opinion and off-topic :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB networking MAC regression (aka the usb0 - eth0 change)
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 17:05, Nicolas Cavallari batch...@free.fr wrote: This worked fine during the usb0 phase. But since the distro started using the official MAC address, This wouldn't work anymore. Which distro? In SHR-unstable it should be fixed for long time, but in others, where kernel is using arguments passed by Qi (dunno if Om2009 is using Qi or SHR way for settings MAC address...) it isn't, because of bug in Qi. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB networking MAC regression (aka the usb0 - eth0 change)
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 19:33, Nicolas Cavallari batch...@free.fr wrote: Johny Tenfinger a écrit : On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 17:05, Nicolas Cavallari batch...@free.fr wrote: This worked fine during the usb0 phase. But since the distro started using the official MAC address, This wouldn't work anymore. Which distro? In SHR-unstable it should be fixed for long time, but in others, where kernel is using arguments passed by Qi (dunno if Om2009 is using Qi or SHR way for settings MAC address...) it isn't, because of bug in Qi. It's the latest SHR Testing. but my Qi installation may not be up to date... Try latest SHR-unstable. It should be really better than -testing, and it should have it fixed (not depending to bootloader). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [q, fsot] howto dbus
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 20:49, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: QDBusConnection GPSConnection = QDBusConnection::systemBus(); ... thanks, no w i at least got an idea how to preceed. For KWallet you could try: QDBusConnection WalletConnection = QDBusConnection::sessionBus(); KDE stuff sits on session bus (AFAIR), and FSO sits on system bus. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: PDU Decoding
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 09:43, KaZeR ka...@altern.org wrote: Hello list, I've been facing an issue since a few days : i can't access my messagebook under shr : After some tests it seems to be related to an encoded sms which isn't well handled by FSO. I've open a bug on their tracker (http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/439), but i'd like to be able to decode the messages i have in PDU mode, so that i can 1) isolate the right one and report it for the issue to be fixed and 2) be able to answer my 1 week old messages (i can access the messagebook using mickeyterm and AT+CMGL). I've tried various pdu decoder i found on the net (mainly python-based) but none has succedeed (i've tried several of my messages). Can anyone help me decoding thoses messages? Thanks in advance. opkg update; opkg upgrade It's fixed for some time. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] A7 alsa state
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 16:25, David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.com wrote: On Friday 22 May 2009 13:15:48 arne anka wrote: di you try the one mentioned in the trac entry (at+clvl=230) I did suppose it was already on SHR, because it is on FSO: http://trac.freesmartphone.org/attachment/ticket/122/channel.py.diff http://trac.freesmartphone.org/attachment/ticket/122/unsolicited.py.diff But it seems is different on SHR: r...@om-gta02 /usr $ grep CLVL ./lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calypso/channel.py c.append( AT+CLVL=255 ) # audio output: set to maximum I will try to change it, and I will ask on SHR list about this change. Thank you very much If it's not in upgraded shr-unstable, then it's not in FSO, as we are using latest version of frameworkd. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] feature request - power
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 16:09, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: well nuts to that... I can switch them easly... Closing as upstream - looking of elementary Toggles depends on elementary theme. If you think default elementary theme is bad, please report it on e tracker (or develop SHR theme ;) ) (that was me who closed that ticket, and i'm main developer of shr-settings) Size of Toggles (that sliders) is equal to size of buttons. So what's the problem? It only looks thin. I agree on one - we really should have our own elementary (and e17 at all) theme. But we don't have at the moment. That's why i closed ticket, as it's not possible to do easily without breaking everything. I hope you understand :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR]ophonekitd
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 17:24, Vinzenz Hersche hers...@puzzle.ch wrote: mine is broken too.. r...@om-gta02 /media/mmcblk0p3/code $ ophonekitd ** (process:1648): DEBUG: Entering ecore loop ** (process:1648): DEBUG: Phonegui initiated ** (process:1648): DEBUG: Phonelog database initiated ophonekitd: symbol lookup error: ophonekitd: undefined symbol: frameworkd_handler_new r...@om-gta02 /media/mmcblk0p3/code $ please, please fix this.. :( the omoko is my daily phone.. Just upgrade everything properly. Why are you expecting ophonekitd to work with old phonegui libraries? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DON'T PANIC
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:41, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: Johny Tenfinger wrote: DON'T PANIC uBoot splashscreen If you are using SHR from microSD an Qi, you can use that bootsplash when whole system is booting just in just 2 steps: Is it necessary to boot off the microSD? I have SHR in the internal flash, as it fits nicely there. Helge Hafting With Qi - yes (unless you recompile Qi with other boot options). With u-boot - no, but you have to add loglevel=0 splash to bootargs. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DON'T PANIC
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 12:54, Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann m...@mnet-online.de wrote: With Qi - yes (unless you recompile Qi with other boot options). doesn't Qi check for /boot/append-GTA02 on flash too? AFAIR no. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [possibly any] Your storage is full
It should be fixed in SHR unstable... Dunno if testing has fix. It was stupid bug about displaying only read messages in messagelist. In SHR sent smses aren't stored. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] a community effort
Community: if you want to write some opimd support (for instance in Paroli) or improve opimd itself, please contact me. It was hard to understand everything, but now, after fixing Contacts domain, I think I can give you some useful knowledge :) I have also few nice and helpful python test scrips. I'm going to post them on maillist soon. Right now we have working Contacts domain with three backends: SIM, CSV and SQLite. Now I'm going to work on Messages domain, which ATM can only read from SIM backend. People who helped me to fix opimd: Heinervdm (SQLite backend), mirko-paroli (adding items with SIM backend) and mrmoku (opimd feeded SHR GUI:[ libframeworkd-phonegui-elf2). I would like to see also you on this list! :) Regards, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak On 5/16/09, Mirko Lindner mi...@openmoko.org wrote: Hey there, A lot has happened over the past couple of months, but most important in my mind has been getting OM2009 out into the hands of the community. When we set the very limited goals of OM2009 we had two goals in mind: 1. Give those members of the community who only wanted a daily phone, a distro they could use 2. Introduce technology that would allow the community to come together and improve on these basics Community interaction, open development and user driven decision making are at the core of Om2009. Going forward this will be an effort with the community for the community. The help and support I have gotten from the community over the past couple of days and weeks has been remarkable and I can see things starting to move and slowly coming together. We need more of this! I invite you to join the effort to make om2009 with paroli the best Om-labeled distribution for the Freerunner. How can you help? Test the distro, let us know about bugs you find, or even fix them and send us patches. Tell us about your experiences using om2009, what should we change, where can we improve? Paroli has come a long way but it still needs a lot of love and optimizing, so if you are into python or efl, check out the code from git.paroli.org, join #paroli on irc and let's get crackin'. There is lots of things to do, opimd needs to be integrated and improved, the UI needs polishing, overall speed can be increased etc etc More into Chat and email? Feel like writing a jabber/irc/xxx or email client that really fits the screen? Or do you know of one? Let's hear about it. See a list of proposals on: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2009_get_active and http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Paroli-issues This device has a lot of potential and we are so close to reaching the far corners, the kernel is in good shape, the framework is doing great and telephony apps such as paroli or the shr suite are steadily improving. So, get your Freerunner in shape again. Flash it with a nice current distro and let it do what it was meant to do :) Let's make Om2009 a community product, something all of us can be proud of and say we did this. Regards, /Mirko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] a community effort
On 5/16/09, pike pike-openm...@kw.nl wrote: Hi How can you help? OK, I am inclined to try that. Installations instructions say http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009 If you have not upgraded the GSM firmware do that too but it doesnt say which version of firmware needs upgrading, or any way to check your current firmware version, neither on the Flashing page; The instructions on the Flashing page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing sound very scary, and I am not inclined to do that yet. Is upgrading the frimware required to install 2009/testing ? My hardware has been fine using QTExtended. thanks, *-pike ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community GSM firmware upgrade to Moko11 is recommended to EVERYONE using EVERY distro. If you didn't flashed firmware yet, it means that you have older version. Don't worry, flashing is safe. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Testing] Battery meter not reading battery life correctly
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 16:46, Adam Jimerson vend...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone noticed with the 05/02/2009 release of SHR-Testing that the battery meter is not reading correctly? While taking a hike and doing some OSM tracking I received a Low battery warning, thinking it was real I put an early stop to it so I could get it charging before the battery dies but a minute after I received that warning the battery life jumped back up to 92% and it was saying I had over 4 hours left. Has this happened to anyone before, and if so is it fixed in Unstable or does it need reported? Sometimes that happens when driver fails to get battery details. Tap on battery, and you will see, if measure is correct ;) But that happens to me really rare... and i'm using FR as my daily phone. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: After resume - noise screen of death!!
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 21:24, einstein mailingl...@freeyourphone.de wrote: with this kernel suspend works good. but i have some sound problems and wifi problems. if i make a call, i don't here anything, but the other side here my. i don't here ring ring or anything else... when paroli starts i became a error message can't init service Wifi: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod:MethodGetPower with signature on interfaces org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerControl don't exist Of course you have installed proper modules, am I right? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Messages Contact Lookup
On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 01:37, Michael Zanetti michael_zane...@gmx.net wrote: On Sunday 10 May 2009 01:13:26 Dan Staley wrote: I just flashed the latest SHR unstable (built today) and all sms messages still just get a number displayed instead of a name for me, even if the person is in my contacts list. The lookup seems to work fine on incoming calls though. Can anyone else confirm this behavior? Same here... Are you talking about message list, or message view? In message view it works, on list it isn't implemented. It will be very soon, with opimd integration. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Messages Contact Lookup
On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 00:24, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org wrote: I was considering taking a peek into it for adding real contacts (and not those on the SIM card)... You can do it now. Just use libframeworkd-phonegui-efl2 instead of -efl, and you will see opimd based contacts gui. It's buggy now, but we are working on it. Right now it supports SIM, CSV and SQLite backends. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2.6.28+ kernel] usb host/device mode switcher
On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 02:39, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote: where are you finding the revision you quoted? In shr-unstable, as it was said before ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use FR as a mass storage device?
SHR Settings NEVER had option to set mass storage mode. It was only unprogrammed toggle in early versions of shr-settings. It's removed until someone will implement it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3
On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 09:31, Hans Zimmerman h...@everlasting.be wrote: -force-depends makes warnings out of errors regarding dependency checks. I'm personally against overruling errors. If the systems says there is an error there is an error, if it should be a warning, it should say it's a warning. You are correct. But you are also wrong ;) Don't forget we are talking about such crap, which opkg is. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: what hardware version do I REALLY have?
On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 21:25, Doug Jones dj...@frombob.to wrote: The date code printed inside the phone is 20080605. I have GTA02v5 with date 20080621. I ordered it in July 2008... So... They really ship older revision to you :( You have to live with power hungry AUX led (which is the most important change for me from v5 to v6) or... Ask Openmoko (maybe Steve, or someone on sales). Maybe you'll get replacement. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: what hardware version do I REALLY have?
On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 21:34, Marcel tan...@googlemail.com wrote: I don't think the aux led is such a significant change, it doesn't light that often anyway... I mostly see it on kernel panics which luckily isn't that often :D But other changes are less significant ;) Booting without battery, which still doesn't work... and SD/GPS fix, which is fixed by software ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: what hardware version do I REALLY have?
On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 21:44, Marcel tan...@googlemail.com wrote: I'd rate booting without battery more significant for dev work, but that's my very personal view. In this case the aux led's power consumption would be quite irrelevant since there's usb power available. :) GTA02v5 can work without battery (with disabled GSM of course), it's only not booting without battery. But if you booted, you can put off battery and Neo will work only with USB power. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DON'T PANIC
DON'T PANIC uBoot splashscreen If you are using SHR from microSD an Qi, you can use that bootsplash when whole system is booting just in just 2 steps: Execute: opkg install shr-splash-theme-dontpanic Open /boot/append-GTA02 file and add splash to the end of line. Reboot and you will see boot and shutdown splash screen, which doesn't slow down anything :) You can also use another theme: opkg install shr-splash-theme-simple But remember - to use one theme, you have to uninstall second theme before installing new one. BTW. Just for my huge ego: -simple and -dontpanic splashes (and whole shr-splash idea) are done by me ;) Regards, dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2.6.28+ kernel] usb host/device mode switcher
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 09:55, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote: framweworkd is 0.8.5.1+gitr1277+542c7e13e021b609ec0aa1c20615d940adfcf403-r0, frameworkd - 0.8.5.1+gitr1364+3ca073dcfbfd4d948bca398e878fb893229a3218-r3 - I think that's the answer ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Messages Contact Lookup
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 19:48, Dan Staley dlst...@uky.edu wrote: I really want to use SHR as my daily phone, but the main problem I have is that the messages application does not do a lookup into the contacts list when a message is received, so the number is always shown, even if the contact is known. Does anyone have a patch written or quick fix for this? Everything else seems to work great. Great job to the SHR team! It's there for a while in shr-unstable... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 22:18, Hans Zimmerman h...@everlasting.be wrote: My update sequence showed some errors. Actions executed: opkg remove -force-depends frameworkd paroli opkg update opkg upgrade opkg install frameworkd paroli - paroli did not install because of conflict with the file /usr/share/elementary/themes/default.edj with elementary-themes opkg remove elementary-themes -recursive opkg install paroli opkg install paroli-autostart paroli-sounds - paroli did not want to start because of missing dependency opkg install python-elementary - paroli starts, waiting for someone to call me on saterday night :) opkg remove elementary-themes -recursive was really wrong!!! You should use -force-depends... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing Release 2
There are 4 apps that I would add to the feed if there were bitbake recipes for them pythm, woosh, intone and mokomaze. The players would I'm sure SHR has bitbake recipes for mokomaze and pythm. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr-testing pimlico window size and power shortcut
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 17:33, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: question 2: for some reason or another i seem to be setting my power settings to different was quite often. and my impatience is starting to show. loading shr-settings then waiting to it to open, then loading the power module and waiting for it to open are getting to me. is there any way that i can make a desktop shortcut that only fires the power module? ive noticed that i can switch between power and settings with the task switcher which makes me think they are separate entities shr-settings --help will help you :) I think you are interested in that command: shr-settings Power shr_pm.Pm shr_device_timeouts.Timeouts That's part from shr-settings code, which lists available modules and defines default categories: dirs = [[_(Phone),icon_phone.png, [ 'shr_gsm.Gsm', 'shr_call.Call', 'shr_sim.Sim' ] ], [_(Profiles),icon_profiles.png, [ 'shr_profile.Profile', 'shr_currentprofile.CurrentProfile' ] ], [_(Connectivity),icon_connectivity.png, [ 'shr_wifi.Wifi', 'shr_gprs.Gprs', 'shr_usb.Usb', 'shr_bt.Bt' ] ], [_(GPS), icon_gps.png, [ 'shr_gps.Gps' ] ], [_(Date/time),icon_datetime.png, [ 'shr_clock.Clock' ] ], [_(Power),icon_power.png, [ 'shr_battery.Battery', 'shr_display.Display', 'shr_pm.Pm' , 'shr_device_timeouts.Timeouts' ] ], [_(Services),icon_services.png, [ 'shr_services.Services' ] ], [_(Others), icon_others.png, [ 'shr_test.Test' ] ] ] In command line you can use all of them and combine it to your own group. For instance, i'm using that command when holding AUX button: shr-settings AUX menu shr_profile.Profile shr_display.Display shr_pm.Pm If you have more questions about shr-settings, feel free to ask me :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr-testing pimlico window size and power shortcut
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 20:26, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: thanks Johny, do you know the brightness command as well? shr_display.Display ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Mokomaze 0.5.0] is released
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 19:16, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: i was playing the game at work and a co-worker wanted to play. he was much more... active at playing then me and managed to get the ball stuck in the top edge of sceen on level 1 and 4. and it does not like to pop back out. no matter how hard you shake it : ) I can confirm. That bug is sometimes happening. It hapenns sometimes when i'm holding phone in Y axis (to earth) with screen to me. Previous version didn't have this bug. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Mokomaze 0.5.0] is released
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 20:10, ANT ant0...@gmail.com wrote: I've just fixed (I hope) this problem and updated the source tarball and installation packages. If you already got 0.5.1 without this fix, please download/install it again! It works, thanks :) But there is also another bug: when i'm holding FR exactly in Y axis to earth (my english isn't good enough to explain it in better way ;P) with hole up, and screen to you - ball stops. It runs again when only i move FR a little. If i'll back to that problematic position, it stops again. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Network Management
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 09:57, kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com wrote: For example, I can just dummly copy/paste the scripts, but I understand nothing about netmasks, masquerade and everything. I wrote WiFi manager for SHR without any special knowledge about netmasks, masquerade and everything :P It is in shr-settings playground directory and it uses connman. Nothing difficult, trust me :P ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] flashed kernel and uname
It's correct. It's not 2.6.28 kernel. It's only wrong package name. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: No suspend/poweroff menù
He's talking about SHR. And mrmoku told users on maillist, that there is syscon menu problem. It's known and upstream, so please: don't spam every maillist with known, upstream bugs... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Shelf Gadget configuration and E restart
It was upstream problem, which should be now fixed. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Mokomaze 0.5.0] is released
On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 09:24, ANT ant0...@gmail.com wrote: P.S. I think 'CPU' must be requested too. No, when you requests Display, device doesn't suspend too. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Will my phone buzz?
On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 10:47, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: If it says 0305 you have V5 and need a fix. You're wrong. GTA02A5 and GTA02A6 don't differ regarding buzz. Now only A7 and A8 differs. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Mokomaze 0.5.0] is released
Much better to prevent screen dimming that mdbus is dbus-send: exec: { init: dbus-send --type=method_call --system --dest=org.shr.ophonekitd.Usage /org/shr/ophonekitd/Usage org.shr.ophonekitd.Usage.RequestResource string:Display, final: dbus-send --type=method_call --system --dest=org.shr.ophonekitd.Usage /org/shr/ophonekitd/Usage org.shr.ophonekitd.Usage.ReleaseResource string:Display } It works, and works fast :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Detecting headset button press
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:36, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: fso framework detects headset plug-in and switches alsa stae accordingly -- why don't you have a look at fso, how they do that? frameworkd doesn't support button on headset. You misunderstood topic :P ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Testing] Ebook reader?
Have you tried opkg install fbreader? :P ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Testing] Ebook reader?
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 20:12, Russell Dwiggins undrwa...@verizon.net wrote: I recommend you use the fbreader from opkg.org too…has the ellopatches that make books actually readable. ;) SHR version has that patches included. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Draft of 17th community update
opimd now supports SQLite to store contacts (before there was only SIM and CSV backends), and Messages domain is fixed (but now there is only SIM backend). It still lacks support of editing and deleting items. http://openmoko.opendevice.org/~dos/pim.py - there is some test app. In SHR mrmoku started GUI which uses opimd interface. It's libframeworkd-phonegui-efl2 and can be installed from shr-unstable repo. I think that should be mentioned, as opimd and its support is really important :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [New Mokomaze] Coming soon
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 09:37, ANT ant0...@gmail.com wrote: I want to tell that Mokomaze (ball-in-the-labyrinth game) is still developing. Does that mean that Mokomaze will be compatible with recent kernels? Now it doesn't work on andy-tracking (changed working style of accelerometers). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all e/illume based] copy/paste
Use ctrl+c and ctrl+v. Works well to me :P ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-testing] save SMS messages to text file?
We (SHR) started to work on opimd, instead of waiting to it, so stay tuned - we already have almost working contacts-on-somewhere-else-than-SIM (actually selectable: CVS or SQLite) implementation. After that we will focus on messages :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-testing] save SMS messages to text file?
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 21:19, ivvmm unachieva...@gmail.com wrote: Am I right if I say that you are helping the FSO team when you say that you are writing the opimd? Yes. Look at opimd commits: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=summary I am Sebastian Krzyszkowiak :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2.6.28+ kernel] usb host/device mode switcher
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 11:33, Carlo Minucci ge...@napodano.com wrote: are there any apps for controlling usb host/device mode, which will work under the newer kernels? both the apps on opkg appear to only work on older kernels SHR Settings. Works of of box on FSO systems. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2.6.28+ kernel] usb host/device mode switcher
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 14:58, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.comwrote: ah, shame - i'm on shr-testing and i can't see it in shr-settings here. Maybe you are using old frameworkd, which doesn't support new kernel. It's fixed for a while. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR desktop icon display issue.
It's not icon issue, it's theme issue. You have selected Illume theme instead of Illume SHR. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR desktop icon display issue.
So then that's the correct bug report :P ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-testing] Suspend?
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:11, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: These settings used to be in seconds. Did they really change the suspend and backlight timeouts to minutes? Why? No. These settings are still in seconds. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] 4-16 shr-testing is pretty good!
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:06, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: This did not work in SMS before, because of some UI problem It's fixed ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why enlightenment?
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 21:50, Gunnar AAstrand Grimnes gunnar.grim...@dfki.de wrote: I wont say it's better in GTK, but it not exactly trivial for E. It IS trivial. Default theme is large, but you can simply override interesting you classes. Look, how it's done in e-wm-theme-illume-shr theme. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Missing icons after install
Full reflash or executing code snippet, which I'm going to post here ;) 2009/4/17, Tomas Riveros Schober trive...@enable.cl: Great! thanks for the quick answer! should it be fixed by opkg upgrade or a .e removal or a full reflash? thanks Tom Johny Tenfinger escribió: Oh. I should do it yesterday or today, but forgot about it. I will fix it tomorrow ;) 2009/4/17, Tomas Riveros Schober trive...@enable.cl: Hello, I've just tried installing latest SHR-testing (which should be unstable just merged into testing), and it works quite good. However, I cannot find a way to launch certain apps (except than by using the terminal). i.e. TangoGPS is nowhere to be found, but calling tangogps from the terminal launches it correctly. Same thing happens with other apps shown in the initial configuration screen, but somehow lost after booting to e. Am I missing something incredibly stupid (it's been a while since I've tried SHR), or does it work that way? If so, how can I get launchers for those missing apps? thanks in advance Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Unstable] Forcing fast-charge
On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 16:35, Francesco de Virgilio fradev...@gmail.com wrote: I think this is the *greatest* fault of OM/SHR since the introduction of 2.6.28 kernel. It's only one change in path. Nothing more has changed. I'm going to add functionality of battery.py in SHR Settings. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr - messages + wsod
On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 18:07, Nelson Castillo arhu...@freaks-unidos.net wrote: In my attempts to reproduce the bug I missed the let it cool down a little bit step. But it's the most important step I think ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Missing icons after install
Oh. I should do it yesterday or today, but forgot about it. I will fix it tomorrow ;) 2009/4/17, Tomas Riveros Schober trive...@enable.cl: Hello, I've just tried installing latest SHR-testing (which should be unstable just merged into testing), and it works quite good. However, I cannot find a way to launch certain apps (except than by using the terminal). i.e. TangoGPS is nowhere to be found, but calling tangogps from the terminal launches it correctly. Same thing happens with other apps shown in the initial configuration screen, but somehow lost after booting to e. Am I missing something incredibly stupid (it's been a while since I've tried SHR), or does it work that way? If so, how can I get launchers for those missing apps? thanks in advance Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-unstable] connman as central connection manager?
I want to implement WiFi manager in SHR Settings using connman. Stay tuned ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why enlightenment?
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 16:47, Bram Neijt bne...@gmail.com wrote: As for SHR you mention, I didn't want to try SHR because the wiki[1] states: GSM network is lost after one day of uptime: restart your FR once a day! in the list of known issues. But maybe I should give it a try after all. I don't know who posted that known issue on wiki. I have never heard about it. Maybe it's some old problem, since before I joined to SHR community. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why enlightenment?
Now testing is equal unstable ;) And before that unstable was more stable than testing :D ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why enlightenment?
E libraries seems to be a fastest and lightnest on Neo hardware. When using proper theme of course. And they provide very nice way for layouting. I was sceptic about e too, but when I see that libs in action (from both user and developer side), I'm sure that was good decision. There is even Illume and Elememtary, which are dedicated to devices like Neo. We only need good apps, which are using those libs. 2009/4/15, Cedric Cellier ri...@happyleptic.org: If you'd prefer using Qt or GTK, both have dedicated distros. For instance, hackable:1 is the continuation of the initial OpenMoko software stack that was based on GTK. As to why openmoko guys decided one day to sacrifice all the work already done with GTK and to go for a plain new framework, well you should as well ask Why those Moai on the Easter island ? :-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why enlightenment?
No, you didn't understand me. It isn't dedicated for Neo. It's designed for handheld devices. Like Neo. And under that environment you can still use other toolkits. And when I said about good apps I was thinking about phone apps. And it seems that SHR has really good, e17 phone apps. They would be perfect, if only there is opimd support and some today screen :) 2009/4/16, Bram Neijt bne...@gmail.com: Saying that the libs are dedicated to the Neo sounds like my worst nightmare: no application anywhere ever uses them.. except for some of the programs written specially for the Neo. That would imply that, if you ever want to use an application on the Neo, you will have to port it (or live with the overhead of running multiple GUI toolkits at the same time). Saying we only need good apps sounds like a big understatement of the problem. The open source world is full of good apps, the problem is: not only do we need good apps, they need to be coded from scratch. I'm not familiar with the layout possibilities of e, however in my experience, the more freedom you give the developers, the more horrid the design :(. This often leeds to differently sized fonts, with buttons sized to the text they contain, and no place for the user to start or stop looking at the application. I've even seen interfaces where you where never sure weather something was a button or not, let alone what would happen if you tried to click on it. Most developers are like people making their first Powerpoint presentation. Everybody has seen those: everything has a different color, size, and it all flies around with sound effects. Bram On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 23:35 +0200, Johny Tenfinger wrote: E libraries seems to be a fastest and lightnest on Neo hardware. When using proper theme of course. And they provide very nice way for layouting. I was sceptic about e too, but when I see that libs in action (from both user and developer side), I'm sure that was good decision. There is even Illume and Elememtary, which are dedicated to devices like Neo. We only need good apps, which are using those libs. 2009/4/15, Cedric Cellier ri...@happyleptic.org: If you'd prefer using Qt or GTK, both have dedicated distros. For instance, hackable:1 is the continuation of the initial OpenMoko software stack that was based on GTK. As to why openmoko guys decided one day to sacrifice all the work already done with GTK and to go for a plain new framework, well you should as well ask Why those Moai on the Easter island ? :-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bluetooth and 2.6.28
Can you prefix topics with [QtExtended] or [QtMoko] when you are talking about it? Thanks... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bluetooth and 2.6.28
Om2009, FSO and SHR are using bluez4 and 2.6.29 kernel. On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 15:23, Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be wrote: On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 14:19:59 +0200 Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.com wrote: Can you prefix topics with [QtExtended] or [QtMoko] when you are talking about it? Thanks... I would, but this concerns Om2009 as well I believe, since that still uses QtExtended, but I thought it was going to be on a 2.6.28 kernel as well. Or maybe they do the bluetooth stuff not from qtextended? Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: unstable andy-tracking kernel
shr-unstable is using andy-tracking with AUTOREV, so you can download it from http://build.shr-project.org/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: unstable andy-tracking kernel
You don't have to install whole image, you can install only kernel and modules on your existing rootfs. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Unstable] opkg upgrade fail
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 18:41, The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com wrote: Ahh, swapfile did the trick it seems. How can I make it automount my swapfile on boot? The key is: /etc/fstab ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Unstable] Screen blanking issue
I don't think it's kernel issue - for me it's something with xset utility (I have that problem too)... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Unstable] Screen blanking issue
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 19:57, Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think it's kernel issue - for me it's something with xset utility (I have that problem too)... Some info: r...@om-gta02:~# ps aux | grep [x]set root 3252 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?Z19:59 0:00 [xset] defunct ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Autorun for SD card mechanism?
Shortly: Let's write it ;) 2009/4/8, Lothar Behrens lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de: There is an idea rattling in my head about the following issue: Given I have a micro SD card and that would have all here, what is about a bootstrap mechanism to post install packages that are laying on that card to be installed, when a new image is started at first time? Like the autorun of a CD, this would help to ease the distro switch but keep my usual applications that otherwise have to be installed manually. This would include SSH settings, WLAN settings, look and feel, and what ever may possible. What about it? -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Autorun for SD card mechanism?
Hmm... Maybe there is a place for some app... shr-firstboot :) It could also replace first boot creator from e17, which isn't very useful on Neos... 2009/4/8, Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net: good idea. I already have all those files on SD but after each upgrade have to install them manually, which is annoying. I would suggest something like: 1) notify user to do an opkg update and opkg upgrade first 2) change to post installation directory cd /media/card/post 3) change to package directory and install all that is in there cd packages opkg install *.ipk *.opk cd .. 4) override files cd override [[copy all files to root of system, e.g. override/etc/blabla to /etc/blabla]] cd .. 5) path files cd patches [[apply all patchers to root of system]] cd .. off course documenting your changes via patches/diffs is preferred over overriding, allowing improvements in other parts of the files via opkg upgrade before you start. Johny Tenfinger wrote: Shortly: Let's write it ;) 2009/4/8, Lothar Behrens lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de: There is an idea rattling in my head about the following issue: Given I have a micro SD card and that would have all here, what is about a bootstrap mechanism to post install packages that are laying on that card to be installed, when a new image is started at first time? Like the autorun of a CD, this would help to ease the distro switch but keep my usual applications that otherwise have to be installed manually. This would include SSH settings, WLAN settings, look and feel, and what ever may possible. What about it? -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: how long freerunner will be produce ?
News which say that GTA02 isn't produced anymore are wrong. So you can sleep without troubles :D 2009/4/7, Mickael LABROUSSE m.labrou...@bcmd.fr: Hi everyone, I work in a french compagny making up a produce based on the freerunner. Sorry to open a new thread about this but I read everywhere on the Internet that Openmoko cancels gta03 and sometimes news talk about gta02 too !! So a simple question how long freerunner will be produce ?? Thanks a lot. Mickael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Transparent keyboard in illume
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 13:50, kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com wrote: Big question : Have you proposed to the SHR guys to add this functionnality by default on the next testing release ? It can't be in any distro by default as it's breaking Illume keyboard. When patch will be more flexible, I will add it to SHR (patch for compositing with Xglamo is already in SHR for some time) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone (0.20 - alpha release) Elementary based mplayer frontend
Opkg? And then hearing complaining of all Om2008.12 lames? Don't do that! ;x e_dbus is only mainloop. After setting up SessionBus with that mainloop you can use dbus as always. To async callbacks look at reply_handler in dbus and ecore_idler_add in GUI. Examples (in python) you can find in shr-settings. For dialogs, use Inwin widget. For seeking use Slider, as it's used in shr-settings Display (backlight) module. Looks like you are implementing very good idea. I will look at it later, when only I have my FR near ;) 2009/4/5, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com: 2009/4/5 c_c cchan...@yahoo.com: excellent, i'd love to have a look at this - would you be willing to add it, and it's dependencies (libelementary0 et al), to opkg.org? cheers ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wifi problems, WPA/WEP differences (was: Re: [SHR] from debian to shr ; -))
My AP worked well with .24 kernel. With .28 and .29 it doesn't (I've connected once for about month) 2009/4/5, Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com: Cameron Frazier frazier.came...@gmail.com writes: On Sat, 2009-04-04 at 16:25 +0200, Davide Scaini wrote: ... i use a wep static ip network and a dhcp wpa one, i have some interfaces files that i switch between. ... I can get a DHCP WEP network to connect fine (work), but at home (DHCP WPA) I get nothing. You mention that you have different interface files, coul dyou describe the differences between them. I've had successful connections with open, WEP and WPA networks. And i've seen an AP i couldn't connect at all too. It looks like FR's wifi is incompatible with some APs, no matter if encryption is used or not. See http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket//1250 for example. To sum up: FR's wifi has 2 kinds of known problems: incompatibility with particular APs and instability of the internal firmware. Using an old (pre-.28) kernel is not recommended due to stability issues. Also i think Werner is still going to finish his daemon to promptly power-cycle the wifi module on internal firmware crash; that can improve stability somewhat. I wouldn't hope these compatibility issues will ever be fixed, so my advice is: trade your AP for the one FR can work with. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Recommended GTA01 images?
You can use GPRS without scripts ;) Use shr-unstable (which is stable enough again ;D) and use SHR Settings to connect ;) 2009/4/5, Ben Wilson b...@abcom.co.nz: try shr-lite-image-om-gta01.jffs2 from http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-testing/images/om-gta01/ Seems to work great on my gta01, dialling / suspend / sms etc.. By default it won't suspend automatically after x seconds, but this might be easy to change. I just suspend it myself before putting it in my pocket every time (click X at homescreen for shutdown/suspend options). It has always woken up from suspend when calls or txt arrive. so yeah, seems perfectly stable to me for everyday use. There's some shr tweaks here (some may already have been done to the image, ie, i didn't have to do fast suspend and no echo) http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Tweaks The GPRS scripts here also work for me http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPRS_FSO It doesn't have a browser in the image however you can opkg install one Ben Mikko Rauhala wrote: Hi It seems that my FRs are suffering from additional HW woes to the usual ones, and I just contacted my vendor with warranty questions. Meanwhile, what's hot nowadays for a GTA01 if one wants the phone functions to somewhat work, and yeah, suspend too preferrably? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Slashdotted
It seems like plan B doesn't share anything with phones and... Linux ;( 2009/4/5, David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com: only add that replies are quite unfair to a any free project whatever it succeed or not. 2009/4/5 David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com: Yes very sad wrong titular No More OpenMoko Phone and very discorageus comentaries :( 2009/4/5 robert lazarski robertlazar...@gmail.com: http://mobile.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/04/228240art_pos=2 Not pretty. As someone who has been lurking on this list for 1 1/2 years, patiently waiting to buy a phone but trying to avoid buzz fix parties if I could help it, I suppose its not surprising. On the positive side, I'll stick around to see what happens with plan b - if that is there's anyone left to develop it and its not vapor. I like the idea of Freerunner, just not its execution. I'd like to surprised though and see a turn around. And yes, I'll probably buy one that ships without hardware problems. - R ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone (0.20 - alpha release) Elementary based mplayer frontend
which library do i have to install? Probably opkg upgrade or shr-unstable ;) On 4/5/09, Sebastian Hammerl list-openm...@omoco.de wrote: Hi, I get the following error when starting with shr testing: intone: error while loading shared libraries: libecore_input.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory which library do i have to install? greetings, sebastian c_c schrieb: Hi, Well, it took a lot longer than I thought - but finally - here's the alpha release of Intone - a mplayer frontend (for audio files - as of now) in C. Uses about 2% CPU (max) while running - memory goes up depending on your playlist - on my phone (~2500 songs) it uses about 15%. All you need to do is download the attached ipk and install it. Intone depends on sqlite3 and libelementary. If you have elementary on your phone upgraded to a level where the elementary test application shows you a demo of sliders and genlists, Intone should run on your phone. The recommended way to organise music is to put all the files in a folder (lets say Music), with sub folders named after artists (say Music -Eagles) and with sub sub folders holding albums (that becomes Music-Eagles-Hell Freezes Over-*.mp3). That way, Intone can correctly organise your music collection into albums. It automatically creates a default playlist containing all songs and individual playlists for each album. I have added features to manage playlists and albums - but there is always scope for improvement. Intone uses a sqlite database as a backend for the playlists and albums. That should, hopefully, give flexibility in adding more features later. Things that don't work as of now :- 1. Feedback. - I haven't been able to add dialogs yet. So - wait a little while for Intone to finish long operations (like adding your music collection for the first time - my 2500 odd songs took about 6 secs - the button remains pressed too) 2. Dialogs for deleting stuff. It's safe - Intone does not delete any files - but it does delete tables(albums and playlists) - and it doesn't yet ask for confirmation. 3. Seek. Dont know how to use the slider for seeking. Any Ideas? 4. DBUS. - Haven't gotten around to learning edbus - so no occupy resouce CPU or pause on incoming calls yet. Will take some more time. 5. Album art and lyrics. - Don't yet know the best way to go about doing this other than downloading art from some retailers etc. Ideas welcome. 6. Toggle View. Not working yet. I intend having 2 more views - Album Art and Lyrics. I'm also looking at adding support for the button that the standard handsfree has - as a volume control (3 preselcted levels in rotation) or to go to next song (1 click) and prev song (2 clicks). Any suggestions? Since I also have half a podcast manager built (which I couldn't finish in time for the competition) - I'm also looking at adding that support in the future. Feedback Required 1. Bug reports. 2. Artwork - Ideas / png's / whatever 3. Elementary help. I have a lot of questions. Here are a few :- a) How do I reduce the vert height of 1 entry in the genlist? Right now each line in the list is too high (almost 3 text lines high) - so I get only about 4 song names on the screen. Can I reduce the height to say 1.5 text line - 2 text line? b) How do I use the pager with a genlist? In my case the pager works - but it doesn't show the genlist - the buttons all show up though. c) Dialogs and progress bars. I know elementary doesn't have them - but can I make/have a simple ty solution for the time being? Oh! And I'm only adding .oga, .mp3, .m4a and wma files into the albums. Any other types I need to add? I'll upload the code to intone.googlecode.com soon. All feedback welcome. Thanks. intone_0.20_arm.ipk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] latest unstable with problems!
Delete menu-freesmartphone and install e-wm-menu. If that doesn't work, remove shr-settings-addons-illume package. On 4/5/09, Tony Berth tonybe...@googlemail.com wrote: didn't run depmod -a but usb ethernet does work in my case! Can't test wlan though! Also, for every single settings menu, a separate icon gets created! Thus, the whole screen fills-up with 'useless' icons! Thanks Tony On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 1:11 PM, hab keen oh ne baba_mel...@yahoo.de wrote: Another problem occured, thanks to the new kernel. The accelerometer doesnt work anymore, or at least it doesnt for me. I already ran depmod -a, and wlan and usb ethernet are already working again, but the accelerometer doesnt. Can anyone confirm this or tell a way to make the accelerometer work again? -- *Von:* Tony Berth tonybe...@googlemail.com *An:* List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org *Gesendet:* Sonntag, den 5. April 2009, 12:52:59 Uhr *Betreff:* Re: [SHR] latest unstable with problems! On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Alastair Johnson alast...@truebox.co.ukwrote: Tony Berth wrote: - tangoGPS still crashes when trying to change the settings :( IIRC there's a missing dependency on dbus-x11 which provides the session bus that it uses to access the config. Install it then reboot and all should be fine. ___ sorry but what's the name of that dependency? Can I install it via opkg? Thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Transparent keyboard in illume
SHR has patch for Xglamo about Composite extension included, so you musn't take care about that. Only install what you want ;) 2009/4/2, kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com: Hi lists, I would like to know if there were some progress on easily installing the transparent keyboard (qwo or anyone else) on SHR distribution. I think the SHR distro could really benefit on this ! Thanks for any news Kimaidou 2009/3/12 Richard Kralovic r...@om.ksp.sk ... so it's working in 2008.12 - I can supply my patched build of illume.ipk if anyone wants it - the only problem being the qtopia Great :-). If you wish, send it to me and I can add it to my webpage... Options and Back buttons etc attached to the display bottom always show on top of... I know next to nothing about illume internals, but I'd try to change the parameter of e_border_layer_set in illume.c from 100 to something higher. Now gotta figure out how to prevent that, or bring qwo even further forward... The illume patches are really just nasty hacks, I'd love to have some neat patch on illume that automatically checks the X11 atoms of the keyboard and adjusts its behaviour according to that. With that, we might be able to persuade the SHR guys (or even Raster) to accept it. But I do not have much time for that right now :-(. Greets Richard Rich ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge
shr-unstable is now using very hot new enlightenment revision ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR,FSO] Serenity theme for illume
Yep, 2008.12 is unsupported and has too old Enlightenment version to handle recent themes and modules. 2009/3/30, Leonti Bielski prishe...@gmail.com: Maybe you have too old Enlightenment version? For me on SHR-Unstable wrench and navigation arrows work flawlessly. Leonti On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 2:23 PM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com wrote: Thanks :) Testing in Om2008.12. Joel I like a lot the theme :) Just notice, navigation on open apps not work, the wrench doesn't show but the area is sensible, but on press appears on blank with the close at the bottom. Suggestion, black bakground too :) 2009/3/30 Michael Sheldon m...@mikeasoft.com: David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: unable to untar the file r...@om-gta02:~# tar -xzvf serenity-0.2.tar.gz tar: invalid gzip magic The archive is fine, it's just the filename that's wrong, it's not really gzipped. If you just do tar -xf serenity-0.2.tar.gz it'll unpack without problems. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR unstable] Vibrate on new message?
Latest frameworkd (from few days ago) has message-vibration support added. You should try it ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Organize the desktop in sub category..
Launcher from Hackable:1 is simply that old one from Om2007.2. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all]: pyphonelog?
Up to date packages are in SHR images and repos, as source of pyphonelog is in SHR git ;) 2009/3/27, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de: does anyone know if there are recent packages of pyphonelog[d]? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/PyPhonelog does list only fairly outdated (in case of pyphonelogd) or non-existent (pyphonelog) packages. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Fennec web browser recipe
It's alpha 2 version. It's not usable on FR and everyone can build it with bitbake (after installing some libs on host, due to bugs). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: paroli updates
Developers have something strange called Real Life too :) But I want to do some useful changes in shr-settings in next few days. Stay tuned :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fennec Beta 1 Released
I builded Alpha 2 with bitbake some time ago. It has bugs with using autotools from host machine, but i workarounded it and it worked. Now i'm trying the same with beta 1. but alpha 2 was really slow... I'm not expecting Beta 1 to be usable on FR. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Cellhunter] no offline log any more
Happens for me too - for me cellhunter offline log has never created. I can't see anything about that in stdout. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] some things
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Re: [QtExtended] some things
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 07:28, Dale Maggee anti...@internode.on.net wrote: I haven't tried SHR yet, can't be bothered with the bullshit involved with backing up your phone, importing contacts, etc. Plus IIUC SHR is based on FSO, which still doesn't have any PIM except for contacts stored on the sim, and for me PIM is important. FSO has had PIM (opimd) since milestone5 (but disabled by default). SHR will use it in nearly future. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: deleting characters on raster's keyboard
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 14:53, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote: Possibly - it generally works for me, but I have a long history with resistive touchscreens. You need to keep enough pressure for it to be a continuous swipe rather than 2 or more events. The default layout has enough dead space at the sides to start the stroke in, which may help. Alternatively you could add a backspace key to the layout as there is in the terminal keyboard. I don't have history with touchscreens, but it's working to me too. It's only about keeping enough pressure. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] some things
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 15:06, Dale Maggee anti...@internode.on.net wrote: Is this in SHR? If so, maybe it's worth trying out. Yes, it's standard Illume keyboard. SHR is using that ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Transparent keyboard in illume
It is in git repo for 2 days and it would be in repo after rebuilding (I'll ask mrmoku for doing that in few seconds :P) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use other applications with Paroli fullscreen?
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 11:36, Gunnar Aastrand Grimnes gunnar.grim...@dfki.de wrote: SHR-Testing uses Zhone? What? SHR is using ophonekitd and libframeworkd-phonegui-efl. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Transparent keyboard in illume
Now in shr-unstable patch for composite is included by default. I'm going to include second patch (for ts) later. 2009/3/9, Peter Strapp pe...@strapp.co.uk: Hi, I've just tried an online demo of quikwriting and it looks like, given enough practice, I could get messages tapped out very quick with it. Unfortunately the link to the Xglamo binary on your site is broken. Anyway, I look forward to giving it a go. Its impressive to see composite extension being used on the freerunner. Peter. Richard Kralovic wrote: Any way we can get a package for this? I can't compile for my FR. All binary packages that I have built are available at the howto page: http://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk/~riso/Openmoko/qwo/ If you are using FSO milestone 5, they should work. If you are using different distribution, they _might_ work, but they might break your system as well, so use on your own risk. I have only a compile environment set up for FSO, so I can not easily provide other packages just now... Richard ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to fix missing icons in SHR-Unstable
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 18:41, The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I tried reinstalling e-wm-utils, but that didn't have any apparent effect. Playing with applications.menu did. IDK what the problem was, but that's how I fixed it. e-wm-utils was first problem, aplications.menu is now second one. Only effect is the same :D ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community