Re: case manufacturing
arne anka wrote: would it be possible, this way, to find a possible way to remove the frame around the screen? In other words: could a new case be made that hasn't the frame around the screen? that would increase the usable surface my thoughts exactly ;-) any help from the hardware guys or those having the fr disassembled already? is the beveled border somehow necessary? Mh, When I removed the front cover to put in my homemade screen protector (a transparent foil for projections :P), I noticed that there's space for keeping the LCD on the surface of the cover. I'm I wrong? -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: top bar clock in testing
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 02:11:21 +0300 Vadim, Efimov [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 00:21:35 +0300, ivvmm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another vote for this. The analog clock is rather useless. enlightenment have extra module - tclock,( many useful modules ) who can package them? you don't need a whole module - just the theme can change the clock look. Ok, but what about just showing a bigger clock on mouse/finger-over? :P Something like the OSX dock (or itask-ng :P). No animation is needed, but the analog clock size should be improved for embedded devices (I'd prefer using an analog clock if it is well visible)... -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SD boot, mounting phone
Rodney Myers wrote: On Dec 8, 2008, at 2:55 AM, arne anka wrote: doesn't your /etc/fstab contain an entry for /mnt/flash or so? from installing debian on sd i got /dev/mtdblock6 /mnt/flash jffs2 defaults,noatime,noauto 0 2 which mounts the internal flash -- not sure, though, how stable the device name is ... I think I did see something like that. I will look later, and see what is there. Yes the task can be done by using: mount -t jffs2 /dev/mtdblock6 /media/mount-point -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: geocaching with tangoGPS on FR
KaZeR wrote: drac2000 wrote: I already tried it with my maps.. but not successfully through engine finding paths and all that ... What version was it? Was it successful for you finding and routing? Yes, but for France i'm using Reiseplanner maps (commercial, around 40e). I'm using these too. Btw there's a bug: it's hard to get find a location that has a space in the name (like Mont Saint Michel, for example :P). Some weeks ago I looked at the sources founding that this is not due to navit itself, but to the Reiseplanner maps that simply have an index of cities based on a kind of keywords (for the example above, there are three different keys for Mont, Saint and Michel) that then redirect to the index of the city in the map file. So maybe the mg plugin should check the words not by searching the complete string put by the user, but repeating the search for each word and then comparing the results showing only the results that matches every word written (I know, I should fill a bug :P). Using the internal gui, btw, there's another problem. There's no default country set as stated by the log: gui_internal:gui_internal_search_list_set_default_country:warning: no default country found Have you tried the internal gui? It's really well suited for small touchscreens like the FR. I've tried it. Using the old packages you made it was too little, but now it's ok, also if the action menu should be shown a little better when using the phone in landscape mode (as I generally do when navigating). Ah, using the gtk inteface, the text added in the Destination dialog should be trimmed, since the embedded keyboards (based on dictionaries) tend to add an extra space after a word. I've to say that the newer package you made is really faster when loading my maps on launch, also if it doesn't seem to include the fix posted months ago here (to redraw the map only after each drag as TangoGPS does) and it doesn't include a wrapper script with: echo 1 /proc/sys/vm/overcommit_memory Finally I've seen this screenshot [1] in scap, is this an EFL implementation of Navit? It seems to use the enlightenment toolkit both for the buttons and for the map rendering (better than the GPS from what I can see there). Have you some informations about this shot? :P Anyway thanks for the work done in Navit, it's really a great project! [1] http://i34.tinypic.com/2m7t64m.png -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: No more optimization team
Will Siddall wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heh, maybe I'm just being a bit debian centric here. I saw libecore0 - Core abstraction layer for enlightenment DR 0.17 in debian experimental and thought that it can't be too established or un-new. It has been a few years since I started using it and even though they haven't officially released 0.17, the betas are ever more stable than most desktops I have used, including the EFL framework which is by far the most dynamic, flexible and quickest (and most graphically pleasing) framework for the linux desktop. Openmoko made a great decision to switch to the EFL for it's phone and am greatly anticipating the new changes that will come up in the next few months. I do agree. I've used E some years ago, but then I went back to KDE. Now, after re-using and pleasing it in my phone, I decided to put it again on my notbook and I'm more than happy with it: quick, nice, stable (also from daily svn :P) ;). -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: No more optimization team
arne anka wrote: sorry no offence but, i think it is because of the infacy of some users, which can't hande information and start running around in circles screaming fire, fire fire!. sentences like these dismissed, so there won't be weekly updates anymore. Further details and reasons behind this are inappropriate to be answered by me. and then Some people were laid off. Some new ones are being hired. are not likely to inspire confidence (and, imho, they rather sound like there's more to it then just the already expected and scheduled end of team ...). i clearly remember the long and heated debates about the wrench issue (see the archives) and the communication from om being ... worthy of improvement. the same thing applies here: some clear message in the lines of - optimization team reached its intended goals - conclusion what the were exactly and how they were reached - that the members of the team are working on other tasks now - a statement that optimization as such is of course ongoing on all fields would be highly appreciated and, imho, more professional. I agree. -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Converting a brick into a phone
Rui Castro wrote: So, my idea with my first message was to try to encourage people from the community (and from Openmoko too) to put a little effort to make Android stable in the Freerunner so that Openmoko and the community could benefict from having another alternative OS, in the SHORT term. I understood this also in your first message (and I quite agree on what you wrote). BTW I think that Openmoko guis should help in this only for low level things (i.e. kernel) and mostly if the changes could affect also the main Openmoko distro. Instead I think that the community should move on to get another distro (quite cool and with an endless level of possibilities and future development, I should admit) working on our hardware. Android shouldn't be the answer (I'd miss too much X :P), but I think that must be an alternative. For getting this, I figure, that we should place our efforts also in removing all the bad bits cited here (like any possibility of remote control over our hardware by Google) and optimizing the good ones for our phone. So, finally, who can help and work with the Openmoko officially supported projects should do that, but if you prefer to do other and you have any knowledge to help the android port, I think, that you should follow the Rui's words. -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: No more optimization team
Wolfgang Spraul wrote: the optimization team finished their work a few weeks ago, most people were working on new tasks already. Mmhmh... I was just thinking... What about the python-loader? If I don't remember wrong, the optimization team had also the task of creating a python loader to enhance the performance of the python applications running on the device (and that with the coming fso+tichy+paroli stack will be more and more used). -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2008.x] praise for the new testing image
John Lee wrote: On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 06:05:04PM +, Vasco Névoa wrote: Yes, that's how I get my ballance... it's the operator that automatically sends it at hangup. I confirm that the dialer exits when we try to do it upon request... I would like to know how many people need this. My resource for qtopia is very limited and I need to decide what to fix first. In Italy only an operator uses it, but I'm using it; that's why I've researched so much about this :P. Btw, the fact that the dialer exits after dialed, it's normal (it should indicate that the USSD request has been placed). The problem with the latest qtopia-x11, however, is that it uses a wrong way to send the request. I'm using a workaround to it (the patch is in trac) but I know that could be improved. I don't know if I can easily provide binaries since my qtopia build has many other diffs... -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] Building Android from the Koolu Source
Jim Ancona wrote: I've been able to successfully build an Android rootfs from the Koolu repository. When flashed to my phone with the kernel that Sean provided, it runs with just about the same set of issues as the images that Sean has put up. I've documented how I did it on the wiki at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Android#Building_the_Koolu_Android_Source Have you been able to get the emulator working with the build sysimage? In my experience, the emulator came up but the phone stays always with a black screen while my CPU us over-used. I've waited some minutes but nothing happens... Is this maybe due to the fact that the android-freerunner distro tries to set some values valid only for GTA0x hardware (i.e. /sys nodes)? How would you suggest to develop using the koolu tree without testing in real hardware? -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2008.8][testing] qpe no longer respects QTOPIA_PHONE_DEVICE ?
Vasco Névoa wrote: After today's testing upgrade, QPE is ignoring env var QTOPIA_PHONE_DEVICE and going right for /dev/ttySAC0 instead of a /dev/pts* like I want it to. What is the new way to make it pick another device? Surely you devs haven't forgotten there are people using gsm0710muxd?... About this theme... Anyone knows what the zecke qtopia-muxer git tree [1] is actually doing? I've not tested it, but would it avoid the usage of gsm0710muxd to get the framework running in qtopia-x11? [1] http://git.openmoko.org/?p=zecke/qtopia-muxer.git;a=summary -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: TwitterMoko 0.4 out
TwitterMoko is very cool and I always use it ;) However, are you interested to make a client for Facebook? I really appreciate it too :) I've started something using the nice Elementary library by Raster friends :P. It looks nice on my PC [1], but I've not tested it on the phone yet :| Bye! [1] http://3v1n0.net/openmoko/Facebook-FacElementaryBook-wip1.png -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Where can I find this game?
Oh, I've found one of the games I've played more when I was young :P screenshotted on scap [1]. Now I forgot its name, where can I find it? :) Maybe I've some saves around too...! ;) [1] http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=a2cb0faac134c6ba717ab4bhc6.png -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bounties?
Erland Lewin ha scritto: 2008/12/3 Sargun Dhillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Just out of curiosity, how many OpenMoko users out there would be willing to pay for bounties? Additionally, how many developers would work for bounties? What sort of bounties would you guys request? How much would you pay? I think I'd be prepared to pay for bounties. Probably on the order of €30-40. One thing I'd be prepared to pay for is some sort of handwriting recognition or grafitti-style input. Something is coming also for Illume [1], thanks to Swisscom ;) [1] http://www.om.vptt.ch/site/?p=382 -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to remove microSD card
Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: Ok, so I'm feeling totally moronic now ... I'm pretty sure I entered my microSD card some 3 months ago, but I can't seem to figure out how to remove it again ... some howto for a gta02? I can't seem to find any lever or pressure thingie to get it to pop open there and the info mentioned on What about using a piece of scotch tape to pull the metal? -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First impressions on new Android rootfs
Gothnet wrote: But editing the bootcmd entry to read a larger kernel nand read.e 0x3200 kernel 0x30; then flashing the kernel and rootfs image as usual. Unfortunately the time I took to do this seems to have run down the freerunner's battery, and now android boots and immdeiately says shutting down because of low power. It doesn't do it though. If you've used the stable-tracking kernel, maybe this is due to the userspace /sys battery node changes. See on previous mail how to fix this. -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First impressions on new Android rootfs
Rui Castro wrote: The workaround to boot the uImage-tracking kernel from uBoot (setenv bootcmd setenv ... ; saveenv) works, but when I poweroff neo and try to boot again it doesn't work anymore; I have to do the hack again. Maybe I'm doing something stupid here. It's the first time I mess with uBoot shell. Are you editing NOR or NAND uBoot? You have write access only to NAND... I tried to make a jffs2 image from koolu source code, but I had no luck. I compiled the sources successfully with make PRODUCT_TARGET=freerunner, then I tried to create a jffs2 image following a very simplistic and probably wrong approach: 1. Created a directory newandroidfs, 2. Extracted the contents of out/target/product/freerunner/ramdisk.img to that directory, using file-roller, 3. copied the files under out/target/product/freerunner/system to /system, 4. created a symlink /etc to /system/etc and a directory /sdcard (like I saw in Sean's image) 5. and created a jffs2 image with the contents of the directory newandroidfs using the command mkfs.jffs2 --pad=0x70 -o newandroidfs.jffs2 -e 0x2 -n -dnewandroidfs/ Outcome of all this, red light flashing!!! It's kernel panic, right? :( It should be... Btw another way for getting working images, I guess that should be using the Sean's image as base and then putting there only the files you've changed with your patches after a recompilation... Would it work? If someone (have no ideia who :) ) did a simple tutorial about how to produce the precious jffs2 image, that would make the testing of new features a lot simpler. I'm asking this too :P Well, I'm sure we will have a working image to show off the new phone on the weekend ;) -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Optimization team update (11/23 ~ 11/29)
William Kenworthy wrote: Thats it. I installed my favourite gsmhandset.state which made the mic audio acceptable. Then I modified PhoneProfile.conf as per #2140 and have audio again. I presume this fix (#2140) will appear in an update shortly? I guess, since the openmoko OE tree has been fixed... -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Koolu announces open-source Android port
Rui Castro wrote: I downloaded the code from http://git.koolu.org/ and tried to make the generic image, simply executing make, but it fails with the following error -- make: *** No rule to make target `out/host/linux-x86/framework/swt.jar', needed by `out/host/common/obj/JAVA_LIBRARIES/sdkstats_intermediates/javalib.jar'. Stop. -- Have you tried to run the compilation process with: make TARGET_PRODUCT=freerunner This seems to compile... What should I do to compile a jffs2 image? Is it possible already? I don't think that it is automatized, but maybe taking the out/ files, comparing and merging them (mostly the settings files like init.rc) with the ones from the Sean's image we could get a working rootfs... -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android rootfs image?
Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof wrote: I installed Android on my Freerunner a few weeks ago, but changed back to Qt-Extended later. Now i want to install Android again but the rootfs image isnt available anymore at http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/ . I guess this is because the mp3 patent issue. Are there other images of Android available at the moment? A new image is coming at: http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/androidfs.jffs2 More from Sean's words in devel list: I am uploading a new rootfs.jffs as I type. It will take a few hours with my slow connection :( The issue with patents is causing great pain. Android is setup to either build with all of Packet Videos opencore, or to eliminate it. If eliminated, then the media playback and record cannot work as it uses Packet Video in a JNI interface. Building a partial opencore library is also quite difficult. I can't just eliminate particular codecs as they are static libraries with lots of dependencies. So, media handling is broken at the moment. You will see that it tells you in logcat it is out of memory, but that is just a bogus error. I am still working to fix it. Bye! -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ALSA state ringtone volume
leonardo wrote: Hi all, Does anybody knows which alsa statefile, and which control should I edit to raise/lower the volume of the ringtone when receiving gsm calls? Until you answer the stereoout.state file is used. I guess you should set the 'PCM Volume' and 'Headphone Playback Volume' controls. Bye -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM-testing] change default dialer volume
Tomas Riveros Schober wrote: Hello list, I've been playing around with the daily testing image and found it to be reasonably good. The only thing that I've not found how to do i to set the default in-call volume (the qtopia-dialer one) since on every call the volume starts at 0 so, as you can imagine, i can barely hear anything. Anyone knows where to set the default value? As I've written in the bug #2140 two days ago, to avoid this issue the openembedded PhoneProfile.conf should have been updated, but it seems that it hasn't been. Btw you can easily fix your problem by editing the file /opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltech/PhoneProfile.conf Adding, for each profile, a line like: CallVolume = 3 More infos at [2]. [1] http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2140#comment:6 [2] http://git.openmoko.org/?p=qtopia.git;a=commit;h=1819dc7a500d51083b8871cd55b5e4507da329a5 -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM-testing] change default dialer volume
Tomas Riveros Schober wrote: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Tomas Riveros Schober wrote: Hello list, I've been playing around with the daily testing image and found it to be reasonably good. The only thing that I've not found how to do i to set the default in-call volume (the qtopia-dialer one) since on every call the volume starts at 0 so, as you can imagine, i can barely hear anything. Anyone knows where to set the default value? As I've written in the bug #2140 two days ago, to avoid this issue the openembedded PhoneProfile.conf should have been updated, but it seems that it hasn't been. Btw you can easily fix your problem by editing the file /opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltech/PhoneProfile.conf Adding, for each profile, a line like: CallVolume = 3 More infos at [2]. [1] http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2140#comment:6 [2] http://git.openmoko.org/?p=qtopia.git;a=commit;h=1819dc7a500d51083b8871cd55b5e4507da329a5 wow, thank you very much for the information, that was precisely what i was looking for (however, the bug is not exactly the same, since the phone is configured to ring, not to silence or vibrate only) Yes, but that's in that bug that I posted the patches that fixed that issue (no caller audio if not ringing - that was present in the first git revision containing the volume slider); and there I posted also a diff to complete the patchset and fixing the side effect you've mentioned... -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] OnScreen Keyboard
Gothnet wrote: Sean McNeil wrote: Excellent. Then we can just include it within the image as it won't affect operations otherwise. Got any sort of ETA on an updated image? In kernel ML Sean said: egardless, there will be a new image posted on or before Monday morning. -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] OnScreen Keyboard
Rui Castro wrote: I implemented an OnScreen Keyboard in the Android framework. It works with all applications and it's possible to answer calls :) I already uploaded the changes to Android repository, here (http://review.source.android.com/4801) and here (http://review.source.android.com/3087). I've tried to upload all the changes at the same time, but something went wrong :) I don't expect the changes to be merged in the android official code because they are developing their own IMF and also because my implementation is very simplistic, it's just to be able to use Android until the IMF is ready. I've attached some screenshots of the keyboard in several applications running on the emulator. Now, I just need someone (Sean/Brian) to create an image for Neo :) Please hurry!!! :D Cool!! I'm waiting them too! :P -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there any kind of network manager?
Alastair Johnson wrote: Or you could follow Joel Newkirk's simple lightweight configuration described at http://jthinks.com/better-freerunner-networking About this... Have you tried it? Does it fix the most common network issues? Thanks... -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Will there be a hardware revision for the buzzing issue?
Joerg Reisenweber wrote: for A7 there's no bugfix changes to expect, except beforementioned big-C rework for buzz issue. There are some minor improvements on audio quality for headset stereo (1u-4.7u). That's no bugfix in the end :-/ Currently we are not planing any hw-fixes for known bugs, that didn't make it to A7 version, means we aren't aware of such bugs that could be fixed for A8. For an eventual A8 we are planning some minor layout changes (3 beads) to make even more sure buzz is gone. (maybe this might also improve situation of buzz while using wired headset for a call. However it's not aimed at that topic) All A5 and A6 versions can be updated to A7 version by cumulative application of the changes done from A5 - A6 - A7 (again that's nothing more than big-C for recent A6) All this to the best of my knowledge, without any warranty ;-) HTH cheers jOERG Please could you update the GTA02 hardware wiki about the newer hardware revisions? Thanks... -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Soft keyboard
Jim Ancona wrote: Denis Galvão wrote: What about this soft keyboard? http://groups.google.com/group/android-dotphone/ This one requires that programs be modified in order to use it. So it can't be used with Android's built-in programs, unless you first modify their source and rebuild them. Would be patching so hard? I didn't look to the test sources... However here there are some news about this keyboard: - http://dotphone.org/viewthread.php?tid=249 -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Soft keyboard
Walter Chang wrote: the text field in messaging does not support cut-and-paste and there is no way i can change that :-( . on the other hand, it will be pretty simple to put together a simple (quick and dirty) sms sender app for android. Why not patching the default one instead? -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Illume dictionary for Dutch (Nederlands)
Pander wrote: Of course this particular word list is very long and contains about 250,000 words and has a typical lng tail. Many words or compositions or occur seldom in average day use. What would be a good cut off point in number of words, also in terms of performance? The Portuguese list contains 56,609 words. Is this workable? How many does the English contain? The Italian one can count also 500'000 words (to be short), but I can get a well working dictionary only using a smaller one (with about 150'000 words that I've taken counting its google popularity). Btw I've written more complete posts about this on the list... -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] new version with page flipping corrected.
Cédric Berger wrote: I tried the version Sean published yesterday (without video codecs, but broken and not available anymore). And I put back the missing lib preventing it to start. Please could you share them somewhere? :P -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: fennec -force-depends doesn't help
Carl Lobo wrote: the text on the screen is extremely blurred. does anyone have any tips to fix that? Give a look to this [1]. BTW that's due mostly to the fact that the illume keyboard pop-ups automatically and that this makes Fennec resizing the web page to a lower value than the maximum possible. As soon as you hide the keyboard you've to wait fennec to redraw the page to the newer Fennec size. I figure that this is the case in which an on-top-only keyboard could help. [1] http://n2.nabble.com/Fennec-on-Openmoko-tp781547p1350938.html -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Freerunner's GSM Calypso Modem Firmware Upgrade...
This is just to notify the community users who don't read the devel list: Joerg, Dieter and Werner set up some tools to upgrade the firmware of the GSM Modem of the Frerunner (TI Calypso) to a newer image [1]. If you're affected by the infamous #666 - No SIM found - bug, you could try to upgrade your phone's firmware using the tools provided by OM guys to the moko10 (beta2) version [2]. Look at the wiki [3] for more help and keep us (and the Devs) informed! [1] http://n2.nabble.com/Calypso-firmware-update-tp1503771p1513061.html [2] They're closed, but it's not an OM fault, and I think we should thank them for this too. [3] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] gsmspeakerout.state
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not entirely sure this helps, but I just noticed with SHR release, the speakerphone works! Maybe you could use the configuration from there? I can confirm this both for Om2008 and SHR, but is there a way to improve the sound volume? It's too low to be used... Using it while driving my car is practically impossible since I can't hear anything... :| (not to mention the fact that in this case the echo is not fixed by the modem hidden command). -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] gsmspeakerout.state
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can only suggest running alsamixer via ssh and upping the volume. That or install pymixer. I've already all to maximum values... -_- Am I the only with this problem here? -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Paroli] Update #3
Mirko Lindner wrote: I just uploaded a new version of the paroli-dialer application which makes use of of edje rather than a toolkit. This version of the dialer shows a new dial-pad design, implements a dummy contacts list and allows to call a person from the contact list. This is a version without functionality, but implementing this is not difficult and the dialer has been written to be easily adapted to actually work. The reason for this non-working is that the tichy-fso components do currently not work on the testing image and thus the phone doesn't register on a network. As soon as that is solved we'll implement the functions needed. Well, today I've followed your RunParoli wiki to get it working in my phone. I've used SHR as base updating the FSO framework and getting tichy and paroli from upstream (respectively from svn and git). Well, after applying the changes you've suggested I wasn't able to get Paroli running but only tichy-etk... Maybe my guy.py wasn't correct (since it doesn't seem to reflect the wiki), so please could you provide a fresh explanation? Thanks... -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] How to power off Wifi?
Matthias Apitz wrote: for now I've tested it with your battery.py, here are the numbers: 181 mA -- nearly empty FR (only battery.py and Terminal running) 231 mA -- after launch of GPSD 183 mA -- after stop of GPSD 189-232 mA -- after Wifi-up with, running 'ping' through eth0 184-186 mA -- after Wifi-down For me this reads that the Wifi chip is already powered-up on boot; the diff between before (181) and after using it (184-186) is not very big; right? What do you mean for Wifi-down? Using ifconfig (ifdown) or using the wmiconfig tool? BTW the major wifi power consumption, if it has been turned on, happens while the phone is suspended. Sometimes I've left my phone in suspend with full battery and wifi on (I mean, after I disassociated it from an AP) and in few hours the battery was drained... -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: fennec -force-depends doesn't help
Leonti Bielski wrote: Hi! I'm trying to install fennec on my beloved Neo. I have added angstrom-distribution.org feed and try to do opkg install fennec It give me gtk eror similar to this one http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/device-owners/2007-November/000759.html Download the ipk file, extract it somewhere with dpkg -x fennec*.ipk .; then copy your ./usr/lib/fennec to the phone and run it from there... This works without any opkg trick... -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Calling interested Glamo OpenGL developers (was: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)
Jacob Peterson wrote: There has been some discussion on the recently about the Glamo and OpenGL where Wolfgang called for serious developers to get in touch with him and he would see what could be done about getting access to the NDA'ed Glamo documents [1]. A couple of developers responded saying they were interested. I would like to see how many people are interested and willing to commit to working on and OpenGL driver in this thread. If there is enough interest I will start a project one projects.openmoko.org http://projects.openmoko.org and then we can work with Openmoko on the legal aspects of the NDA. So please, if you are interested and motivated lets discuss it here, then we can work on getting the rest in motion. What about cross-posting this also to mesa-devel and dri-devel? -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL
Wolfgang Spraul wrote: Having said that, if someone wants to seriously develop for the glamo, please get in touch with me and we will find a legally correct way to extend the smedia documentation to you. In fact we have done that in a few cases before already, but I'm not sure how much actual codes have come out of that. I think very little ;-) So we need some really serious coders that don't mind a tough challenge. Reading this makes me so happy... If I don't remember wrong, some months ago some users asked how to help in this, but I don't know if they were contacted or not. Now I can't find the mails, but I remember I've read them here or in devel (or maybe kernel) list... I just hope that you could find someone that would like working in this; as written before, maybe we could ask for a collaboration to the DRI/Mesa developers... -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] How to power off Wifi?
FilipBE wrote: I was able to disable/re-enable wifi with following lines, I did however not have the time to check the impact on battery life # using Atheros wmiconfig command to disable wlan ./wmiconfig -i eth0 --wlan disable # To re-enable wlan: ./wmiconfig -i eth0 --wlan enable # set re-association mode 0 : do send disassoc when reassociation ./wmiconfig -i eth0 --setreassocmode 0 # now try to reconnect wlan using gui iwlist eth0 scan Thanks they works well for disabling the interface! Have you now done some tests about the impact on the battery life? Would you suggest to run the --wlan disable command on boot too? Btw I was able to re-associate to my AP only once... :( Bye... -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Paroli + Tichy
Mirko Lindner wrote: In short it would look something like: *phone booting *tichy starting (includes edje bindings, fso, check of desktop files etc) and listening for dbus calls *a user clicks on a desktop file *tichy picks up signal and starts application *when application is closed, window is destroyed but tichy keeps on running In case tichy is not running when the user clicks on an icon it starts first and then displays the plugin. How does this sound? Good. This is what I was hoping you was implementing :P This seems the good way, I just hope that the tichy daemon won't use too much resources and that it will be able to launch its plugins smoothly! -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] How to power off Wifi?
Matthias Apitz wrote: While thinking in power savings: is there a way to turn completely off the power of the Wifi chip ifconfig eth0 down should do it, but in my experience it continues to draw the battery :|. I guess we should wait the stable-tracking module implementation. -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: power-on without battery!
Tony Berth ha wrote: I was trying to power-on my FR but having the battery removed and didn't succeed! Goes up to a point and then stops! Is a reason for that? IIRC at some points 500mA are too few to run the FR (there was some threads in kernel ML), that's why it can't boot using just the standard PC USB connection. It should work using the wall charger... -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
Martin Vyšný wrote: Port done. Somebody build the images! :-) http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/7be8ec2e4dae9fd6# http://benno.id.au/images/android_on_neo1973.jpg http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3 For those that don't read the kernel ML, there are new kernel/rootfs images in the Sean's space. They fix the glamo page-flip issue (only?) [1], [2]: - http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/ [1] http://n2.nabble.com/status-and-plans-tp1479560p1479560.html [2] http://n2.nabble.com/-PATCH--Add-page-flipping-support-to-glamo-tp1479826p1479826.html -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: minimo segfaults when surfing to ssl sites with non-standard ports
Peter Nijs wrote: To be able to use the wireless lan in my college I have to authenticate myself thrue an ssl encrypted site. When I use minimo for that (the only browser that knows something about ssl on the freerunner) it segfaults. Attached to this mail is the output file of #wget http://www.google.be . You can see the browser will be redirected to an ssl-encrypted site on port 8081, at which point minimo segfaults. I don't get the chance to see the authentication form. When I am completely connected to the internet and i surf to a self hosted ssl-site on port 44344 it also segfaults. This is particularly nasty because now I can't use the internet at all in my college. Does anybody know where I should start looking for a solution, or anybody who knows a workaround to get authenticated? I have this too. It seems an issue linked to the libcurl/libgnutls libraries in OpenEmbedded (or Openmoko). Give a look to this [1]. [1] http://n2.nabble.com/Web-based-WIFI-authentication-tp1383309p1450113.html -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] Answer calll problems
Christophe Badoit wrote: Andreas Wallin a écrit : Im having problems with answer phone calls on android.. Its ringing but how to anser is the question ? Probably with the keypad that the FR doesn't have :) I've suggested to Sean McNeil in his wiki talk page to use the AUX button not only as a rejecting button, but also as a accept button. My idea is: - Brief pressure of the AUX: green button - Pressure longer than 0.5 sec (enough?): red button Could it be done easily? I figure... -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: new numptyphysics for freerunner is out
Aapo Rantalainen wrote: - It's so much slower This is under discussion in upstream. Meanwhile I dropped physics iteration rate (like older fr-np version did). FIXED Yeah... Now it works better. There are still some slowdowns, but it's generally good. - The virtual keyboard is very hard to use. I added some click-threshold. (Now it is same than used with hildon) FIXED I've to say that not always it seems to take the right command, but it works. I'd suggest it to put it by default on bottom left corner (I move it there and it never breaks my drawings). Thanks for your work! -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] Mouse cursor visibility
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:57:27 +0100 Bastiaan Hovestreydt [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Hi, since its possible I want to use my Freerunner with an USB mouse :-) I got it working flawlessly by plugging the mouse in while the phone is in host mode and removing the -hide-cursor argument from the ARGS variable in /etc/X11/Xserver. Unfortunately you have to restart your Xserver each time you want to show/hide the mouse cursor. I was wondering if there is a way to change the visibility of the cursor while the Xserver is running so I don't have to reboot every time I want to get rid of the cursor again. basically - no. there is no x extension or call to globally make a cursor not visible or visible. thus it's a cmd-line option. you can make an attempt at this in the window manager by setting root cursor to blank or visible BUT amny apps and toolkits explicitly set cursors of their own on their own windows or on their widgets (eg a different cursor over text areas) and the root cursor is overridden here - thus the global disable option to not have to go patching every app/toolkit and still possibly get a cursor. What about setting a transparent cursor by default allowing to change theme (to a non-transparent cursor) on-the-fly? -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: new numptyphysics for freerunner is out
Aapo Rantalainen wrote: Hi all, Numptyphysics, this great physics drawing game, is reborn! (http://www.opkg.org/package_3.html) There are not yet new upstream release, but there are lots of new things in svn-repository. So we can now play numptyphysics0.2-svn109 on our Freerunners. (Tested with Debian and Fdom). upstream news: (https://garage.maemo.org/scm/?group_id=638) -newer physics engine (Box2d v2.0.1 http://www.box2d.org) -scalable window with commandline parameters (so every platfrom will use same datafiles) -faster drawing -more levels -action replays port news: ( http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/rantalai/freerunner/numptyphysics/ ) -onSceenKeyboard (control-panel) -action replays removed (doesn't yet work correct with freerunner) -NextLevel-dialog-overlay is non-draggable (so clicking it is easier) I gave it a try but I preferred the previous version because: - There are some crashes (i.e when drawing over the virtaul keyboard) - It's so much slower (when I played the previous version at 480x640) it was less usable, but the animations were really smoother - The virtual keyboard is very hard to use. However thanks for your work... PS: to reset the resolution on crashes, change the desktop file from: Exec=xrandr -o 3 numptyphysics -geometry 640x480 xrandr -o 0 to Exec=xrandr -o 3 numptyphysics -geometry 640x480; xrandr -o 0 -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Synchronizing contacts from Kontact in KDE4 ?
Sascha Peilicke wrote: As I mentioned in the Funambol threat, there is already a tool which can synchronise via SyncML, but it was written for Qtopia-4.3.1 so someone might have to look at it .. Wait, here is the text of the older post: I guess this is an open secret already, but just in case someone wants to have a synchronisation solution which uses SyncML: https://code.launchpad.net/~sasch-pe/+junk/qtopia-ds Ehm... Link has changed [1] :P. [1] https://code.launchpad.net/~saschpe/+junk/qtopia-ds -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: u-boot and empty battery
leonardo wrote: Hello list, I didn't quite understand if after this [1] thread the problem of booting with a completely discharged battery has been solved, and if there is a uboot image available.. does anybody have any clue? As I said you at Linux Day, it seems to work to me... I also had an image somewhere but I can't find it right now, btw you can compile it easily cloning the latest git and using the OM toolchain! -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2008.9]Speed dial
Andreas Willich wrote: I would like to if there is a command line tool for OM2008.9/Qtopia to dial a number. On my old phone I have constantly used its speed dial feature and I missed it on my FreeRunner. My idea was to simply create a new .desktop file to start the app with the number to dial. I've put this in a /usr/bin/show-dialer.sh #!/bin/sh qcop service send Dialer showDialer\(QString\) $1 Now I just need to create a desktop file with: Exec=show-dialer.sh 0123456789 to run the dialer with the number ready to be dialed. If you want to call directly a number you could use this dial-number.sh: #!/bin/sh qcop service send Dialer dial\(QString,QString\) $1 $1 Using this script, the asked number will be called directly. Bye! Source: http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia4.3/dialerservice.html -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DOOM For Neo Freerunner / 1973
SCarlson wrote: Good evening everyone. I'd like to introduce the DOOM port I've been working on. Here's the http://unsyncopated.com/BrainSolvent/Doom%20Port wiki , where you will find some documentation and videos. Here is the http://opendoom.googlecode.com/files/opendoom_0.1_armv4t.ipk ipkg file. I've implemented a full touch screen only interface for you Neo 1973 guys out there! Please see Finger-Tippng on wiki. (There is also a video demo). It's so cool! It's really much more usable than Duke3d (ehy, why don't you merge the accelerometer engine?! :P) and runs very smoothly... By the way I've some issues to post: - I'd prefer to use the right thumb to shoot (as Duke3d); have you already set a virtual button for the bottom right area that generates a key-code to be set in the configuration? - I can't save the game, since it asks to input a text - sometimes the menu pop-ups while playing also If I'm not touching the touchscreen at all. - If the screen saver starts, Xglamo gives me a WSOD and I've to kill and restart it (if I've ssh) to continue using my phone. For fixing the last issue (that maybe it's due to the fact that I'm running a kernel with the Harald Welte patches for screen blanking) from stable kernel branch), by the way, I've changed the launcher script to temporary disable the screen saver. It works quite well, you can get it applying this patch [1]. Bye and thanks for your great work! [1] http://3v1n0.net/openmoko/opendoom-wrapper-disable-screensaver.patch -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DOOM For Neo Freerunner / 1973
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: SCarlson wrote: Good evening everyone. I'd like to introduce the DOOM port I've been working on. Here's the http://unsyncopated.com/BrainSolvent/Doom%20Port wiki , where you will find some documentation and videos. Here is the http://opendoom.googlecode.com/files/opendoom_0.1_armv4t.ipk ipkg file. I've implemented a full touch screen only interface for you Neo 1973 guys out there! Please see Finger-Tippng on wiki. (There is also a video demo). It's so cool! It's really much more usable than Duke3d (ehy, why don't you merge the accelerometer engine?! :P) and runs very smoothly... I forgot... Do yuo have an advice to set the accelerometers sensitivity? I'd like to move a little more my phone to move my killer :P -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DOOM For Neo Freerunner / 1973
SCarlson wrote: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: It's so cool! It's really much more usable than Duke3d (ehy, why don't you merge the accelerometer engine?! :P) and runs very smoothly... By the way I've some issues to post: - I'd prefer to use the right thumb to shoot (as Duke3d); have you already set a virtual button for the bottom right area that generates a key-code to be set in the configuration? - The virtual button concept is a good one, I can expose everything to the CFG and let you define size and position. Ok, nice to hear... Btw do you have actually a quick way to use the bottom right corner instead of the bottom left one? I had no time to look at the sources yet... Thanks! -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DOOM For Neo Freerunner / 1973
SCarlson wrote: Edit the .opendoom/opendoom.cfg file and goto accelerometer section. There are constants for the deadzone and sensitivity. If you need further assistance, drop me a line. Yes I already saw these values, but I'd like to know more about them... BTW. I believe the Z-Axis is tied to forward/backward motion and the Y-Axis is tied to left/right. (Per the CFG references). Thanks, I'll try this. However have you any example to riduce a little the sensibility? -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DOOM For Neo Freerunner / 1973
SCarlson wrote:
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
Ok, nice to hear... Btw do you have actually a quick way to use the
bottom right corner instead of the bottom left one?
I had no time to look at the sources yet...
Yes, it would be VERY easy to modify. The place you want to look is
g_game.c . Line 811
The X,Y Coordinates 0,0 represent the upper left corner.
Thanks for the hint, in fact I got the left-button version in one second.
This is the small change I've done:
Index: src/g_game.c
===
--- src/g_game.c(revisione 28)
+++ src/g_game.c(copia locale)
@@ -808,7 +808,7 @@
gamekeydown[key_weapontoggle]=0;
fprintf(stderr,Debug X%d Y%d \n,mousex,mousey);
- if (mousex 80 mousey 160 )
+ if (mousex 240 mousey 160 )
{
gamekeydown[key_fire]=true;
touchscreen_skiptip=true;
PS: you can find here [1] a binary (to be put in /usr/games) too!
[1] http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/opendoom
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Re: Paroli project
Mirko Lindner wrote: Hi all, FSO and EFL are ready for deployment, tichy is waiting for plugins and Openmoko is steady on course. So now it is time to take the next step. Nice to read this, finally! :) Meet paroli. It will combine the technologies mentioned above in order to provide a unique user experience on smartphones. The first priorities for paroli will be the dialer, contacts, sms as well as the call history functions. Later on we will start adding other nifty features and expand project. My main question is how to manage the PIM. Will you wait for the FSO PIM implementation or is there any other way to manage contacts and SMSs (first of all) without using the SIM? Due to my old SIM card (small space), I never use it for saving informations, so I need a good stack to save my contacts (using more as more informations per person as I can provide) and messages. Qtopia imho provides a good way to manage the contacts (from an user point of view), Is it planned something of similar? Up to now I have been working my way through the efl, python, the fso and how all those tie into one another. I had to discover that writing paroli as a stand-alone application is very resource demanding we will change the focus now and implement paroli as a tichy plug-in to make use of the build-in python scheduler. The current source code in the svn will be moved to a old or pre-tichy folder as soon as its replacement is available. However, how will you merge tichy and paroli? I mean, I find tichy a nice project, but I don't like it to be used as a laucher, since we've already illume for it and ihmo it does a fantastic job. Paroli is meant to be a community project and as such needs your support, codewise as well as your ideas and input on various subjects. I already tried to run it on my device some weeks ago, but it never ran here :| bye -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Web based WIFI authentication
W.Kenworthy wrote: On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 07:31 +1300, Robin Paulson wrote: 2008/10/28 Leonti Bielski [EMAIL PROTECTED]: A lot of WIFI networks uses web based authentication - network is open, you connect to it, but in order to actually use internet you have to provide some login and password. How do you deal with that? I have a problem with all browsers: Minimo - it loads login page allright, than asks to accept certificate (login page is ssl encrypted) and crashes every time. Midori - doesn't react at all - like connection is broken (does it work with ssl and all this certificate stuff?). Dillo - doesn't support ssl at the time. Does anyone experiense same problem? Leonti yup, had exactly the same problems, with ssl not being accepted using gmail it's not critical, so i'm consigned to waiting till it and a myriad of other bugs are fixed. frustrating i know did you know there's a workaround to get dillo to do ssl? it requires a re-compile, but doesn't appear too complicated or maybe you could give fennec a go? I think links works with ssl ... Same problem here. I've made some tries to get this working, and I found the origin of the issue, but I didn't managed to get it fixed. By the way... I've compiled om-browser and newer webkit using the Openmoko Toolchain, I've put these in Om2008 but I wasn't able to login in my wifi network. So I run debian, there I was able to log-in using firefox and midori, but I tried to use my newer webkit library (compiled under Om) to see if it was the cause of our problem... It wasn't. So, after some tries I got that the problem affects only the OE based distros and that to be more precise libcurl or libgutls cause this issue. I had the same problem also logging-in on Facebook from a webkit based browser, so I filled a bug that later I said as unvalid; it could give you more info [1]. PS: Fennec would work, the main problem is that it's really hard to accept a bad certificate there. I got it working only opening it in remote using SSH. [1] https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21389 -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release
David Samblas wrote: Marc, those it need to update the modules too? Well, if you use them yes. I've not made a package with them since I generally don't use extra modules :P -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: a very nicely pimped freerunner theme
Yorick Moko wrote: Does anybody know where I can find the necessary files to pimp my freerunner like this one: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/a021c845b2f5bc5f98e3b6a78ad925f7.png ? I uploaded that screenshot theme, it was done by CarloRatm, an Italian user. You can find it here [1]. [1] http://forum.telefoninux.org/index.php/topic,649.0.html -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release
Geoff Ruscoe ha scritto: So I'm downloading the new FDOM image, but unfortunately I don't see what kernel I should use with it. Is there a best kernel to go with it? If you want, give a try to this [1]. It includes the latest cool patches (better NAND performances, less power usage on LCD off, improved Glamo speed, better touchscreen event handling) from stable and andy... Bye! [1] http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/uImage-gta02-stable-3v1n0-git-mixture.bin -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
JW wrote: Ok Community, vote and tell OM what you want for the next phone 1) touchscreen (no qwerty buttons) - freerunner, HTC Orbit, iphone 2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball - blackberry curve 3) combination touchscreen plus qwerty - G1 if (SizeOf(GTA03-screen) SizeOf(GTA02-screen) !hasHigBorders(GTA03-cover)) vote(1); else vote(3); ;) -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: a very nicely pimped freerunner theme
Robin Paulson wrote: 2008/10/27 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I uploaded that screenshot theme, it was done by CarloRatm, an Italian user. You can find it here [1]. [1] http://forum.telefoninux.org/index.php/topic,649.0.html great stuff. how do we use it? which directory does it go in, and how do i change the theme once it's there? To change the illume theme, simply put the .edj file to ~/.e/e/themes/illume.edj -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finger Keyboard
Nik Lutz wrote: The code is a real hack - I see it as a proof of concept for my initial idea: The keyboard should have two modes. - A fullscreen-mode with plenty of space for big buttons and a textfield. - a minimized-mode with at least two buttons: one to switch to fullscreen. The second to PASTE the text that was written in fullscreen-mode to the target. I've not tested your keyboard due to some python errors (etk.TextView wasn't recognized, and I had not time to workaround/fix it; however the idea is really nice to me. I'd like to get a keyboard exactly like that (and with a dictionary-based typo check like the illume standard keyboard does)! I think that just adding to the Illume keyboard the ability of going fullscreen (after rotating to landscape) with an its own text field to be used as a temporary text field would be cool! -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit questions...
KaZeR wrote: (i finally ordered and received a Freerunner :) ) Nice, are you a navit dev? I guess you are (especially looking at your site)... :P Lothar Behrens a écrit : Hi, I got installed navit and after some tries I got the correct germany.bin file by downloading it with a wget -O germany.bin ... quicklink. For a brief feedback: Very good ! Thanks :) I do agree... I've but changed a little the (gtk) interface to make it fit better to the openmoko, and I've to increase the cursor size (not so easy to see while driving! If navit needs to calculate a big route, isn't it good to display a hint window or a status message instead leaving the user unknown and let even the whole GUI stay blocked like with a message box when tapping on the screen and let the calculations done in a background thread ? This issue has been around for some time : http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/15 It used to work, then was removed because code was changed, and it hasn't been reimplemented yet. I'm waiting for this too It seems that this comes also into play when the position is changed, thus a recalculation would propably triggered ? If you go outside of the planned route, a new route is computed, yes Well, in my experience it is recalculated but too late imho. Maybe the voice sinthetizer says it but while driving it's not easy to heard my freerunner (the speaker is to low to be heard in the traffic or if I'm listening some music), while often I've to force the refresh from the interface. I am also a programmer, but this seems to be a untrivial issue for a newbie for that code. If you're willing to help, feel free to contact me or join #navit on freenode. You will get there all the help you should need :) Nice. I'd like also to ask you a thing about the SDL interface... I've not tried to compile it in my toolchain/OE build due to the fact that I had no time to port/compile the missing libraries, but would it work well in the Freerunner (that has not 3d hardware acceleration)? -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Which widget toolkit to use
member kamituel wrote: My first thought was to use Gtk+, because I'm familiar with it and I like it. But then I noticed, that OpenMoko switched recently to Qt Extended, so I could go with Qt (I have some experience with Qt also, but not very big). The Openmoko distribution is an hybrid system, so you can use any toolkit you know. Btw imho the best (for performances and for the fact that the it seems to be the future of stock applications) is efl (etk). However, if you can programming in Gtk you can use it without any problem. -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fennec on Openmoko
Xavier Cremaschi wrote: I installed it using : http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/ but I have a ratio problem, display is quite good with X over ssh and default resolution (but I cannot see my mouse pointer) but when I resize Fennec the ratio stays the same and display becomes ugly (display is ugly too on Freerunner, even in landscape). Yeah. That's the problem. The rendering is not so good since the keyboard pop-ups on each loading and so fennec thinks that you're using a smaller screen than the one you're using. However to get better performances (but not completely usable, BTW) with that package, you should upgrade libpixman to the 0.12 version [1] and then to have a better aspect (not to make the menus, icons and co. to be too big) you have to force the screen dpi in the preferences. To do it use about:config or, after the first run, edit the file: /home/root/.mozilla/fennec/*/prefs.js adding: user_pref(layout.css.dpi, 96); Or lower if you want (72 goes well). Some days ago I sent some screenshots on scap. Here's an example [2]. Unfortunately I'm too busy to open bugs at mozilla.org, so if is there anyone with their bugzilla account, please fill some bugs about this! PS: a swap space/file could help you in your tests :| [1] http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?pkgname=libpixman-1-0 [2] http://3v1n0.net/openmoko/fennec-openmoko-optimized-3v1n0.net.png -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pingus ported
Michael Zanetti ha scritto: On Saturday 18 October 2008 23:38:26 Yogiz wrote: just do a simple script in Duke3d way and call it instead pingus directly #!/bin/bash xrandr -o 1 pingus xrandr -o 0 It's quite simple but it would be better if it's incorporated into the original ipk. +1 from me! Well, without adding bash wrapper scripts I guess that a exec line like Exec=xrandr -o 3; pingus -f -g 640x480 -m -s; xrandr -o 0; in /usr/share/applications/pingus.desktop is enough. If you are using FDOM you can just rotate the screen by using Tap/Untap prior to launching pungus. Anyways, installing a script that does it with the ipk obviously would be the best thing! Ehm, I've not FDOM... How is exactly working that? -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) ha scritto: Vasco Névoa wrote: Thanks Treviño! However, qpe complains of binary compatibility: Coult not load /opt/Qtopia/plugins/phonevendors/libficgta01vendor.so errorString() The plugin '/opt/Qtopia/plugins/phonevendors/libficgta01vendor.so' uses incompatible Qt library. Expected build key arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi What can I do to make QPE take the new library? Mhmmh... I should have compiled qtopia using the -buildkey option but I didn't since I thought that it was changing each time I was building it... Well, I figure that the only way to avoid this is recompiling qtopia :|. For who is interested in testing this, now you could add the qtopia testing repository [1] to your opkg lists, or simply upgrade the qtopia-phone-x11-phonevendor-ficgta01vendor package. [1] http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/om-gta02/ [2] http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/om-gta02/qtopia-phone-x11-phonevendor-ficgta01vendor_4.3.2+gitr464+eea26c74b18007142d7f02cb5633dffbfb63bd7a-r50_om-gta02.opk -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Back to the basics: improving user experience
William Kenworthy wrote: Did a quick google but couldnt figure out what it uses as storage. Hopefully not a relational database - they have their uses and qtopia has conclusively proven this is *NOT* it :) Well, I don't really know what Akonadi is using, but when I installed it in my ubuntu build it was depending in mysql-client and mysql-server. Now, if mysql (with a server always running) is really needed I think that we can't use in our phone. -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMooCow 0.1
Thomas White wrote: On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:21:19 +1000 nickd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has now shot to my favourite app. I wonder if we could make the 'moo' earlier. I assume you're trying to replicate those little toys that make the same kind of noise when you do the same thing. Yes - originally I planned to do a full emulation of the physics that goes on inside a proper moobox, and to vary the pitch and volume depending on the speed of the flap inside. Then I realised that that was a bit harder than I have time for at the moment so it's saved for a later version. Ehm... Maybe I'm the only, but I can't understand why this app is getting so popular (yes it's nice, but it doesn't remember me nothing :)). Reading the mails I figured that it tries to emulate something else available on the market, but what is it? In Italy we don't have such things/toys :P. -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] How to export Vcf Contacts from FR?
Matthias Apitz ha scritto: Hello, I've recently moved from a normal cellphone to FR and punched out of the old cellphone all my contacts to a CSV file, converted this to Vcf (which is easy using the KDE application 'kontact' because it supports both formats on import/export); than I've loaded the resulting addr.vcf file into my FR as described in http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Import_Vcf_Contacts so far so good; but how can I export now all these (and new added) contacts to a Vcf file, for example before flashing the rootfs on next update? Some time weeks ago I used an huge workaround, but it worked. Contacts - Options - Send All.. - (in qtopia it let you choose how send them, select by email) - Don't send the message that pop ups, but save it as draft. Now, get the mail with the contacts attached using: cp /home/root/Applications/qtmail/mail/$(ls -t \ /home/root/Applications/qtmail/mail/ | head -n1) /tmp/contacts.eml (it copies the latest modified mail/sms to /tmp/contacts.eml, you can find the needed file also grepping like this: grep vCard describing multiple contacts \ /home/root/Applications/qtmail/mail/* After you got the mail with the contacts attached, copy it on your PC. If you can handle the .eml files with your mail client, just open it and save the attachment. Otherwise open that file with a text editor and decode the base64 encoded text (under MIME-Version: 1.0) using a tool like this [1] (if you don't want to write down few lines of python/php/c...) A little tricky, but it works :) [1] http://www.opinionatedgeek.com/dotnet/tools/Base64Decode/ -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMooCow 0.1
Vasco Névoa wrote: Hey, Senkerik, how's the Accelerometer Game coming along??... Latest svn has some changes: [1] [1] http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/54ecd917ef857d0d84ab87ed17260671.png -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Back to the basics: improving user experience
Leonti Bielski wrote: But what about PIM stack? There is a project from GSOC, but it's either dead or just being developed really slow. What if some time OM is spending on ASU get to develop PIM stack for FSO? Or even make a 0.9 release of FSO even earlier as planned? This is what I'd like to write. But there's a think I'd like to remark here too (I've already said on the devel list), imho we should move to a PIM stack that is compatible with the Qtopia one not to break compatibility and support for multi-boot also from an high level application point of view. That PIM stack is quite good and accessible with easy instruments (practically all is done with a sqlite3 database, and the same can be easily doable with new python stack too). Imho this should be a key point. It's quite obvious that a good PIM stack is vital for a portable device. -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved
Matthias Apitz ha scritto: El día Wednesday, October 15, 2008 a las 02:25:04AM +0200, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) escribió: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Lorn Potter wrote: Hello, I finally found a place in the qtopia sources where I could put code for activating the echo suppression for every incoming/outgoing call. I'm quite sure that experienced qtopia programmers would find a better place for it. A better place for stuff needed for a particular modem, would be in the phone vendor plugin. That's what its there for. Not to defray this patch, but this is very calypso specific, and not part of the GSM spec. (although any other modem would most likely just spit out an error) I agree... That's why some weeks ago I started something like that but I've not pushed out the code yet... I'll attach as soon as I can. Ok, a first implementation is now at ticket #1267 May I ask you kindly for a binary (shared lib) for those of us who at the moment don't compile from SVN; thanks in advance; matthias Here you are [1]. It includes also the mwester fix for re-registering network and my workaround for GSM firmware crash. I hope it won't have any incompatibility with your installed Qtopia... [1] http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/libficgta01vendor-echo-cancellation.so.tar.gz -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko to shift to 2.6.27 kernel ?
Joel Newkirk wrote: On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 07:05:59 +0200, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) Isn't there a way to update/configure the NOR u-Boot too? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing_NOR The NOR image sample there is a broken link now. I'm presuming that it's NOT just the same u-boot bin as is flashed to NAND either, so it looks like doing this is possible but not simple, and most of us wouldn't be equipped to do it. (lacking debug board to enable write mode) Mh, ok... So the debug board is absolutely needed... :/ I figure I'll continue with my NAND... :) -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved
Vasco Névoa wrote: Thanks Treviño! However, qpe complains of binary compatibility: Coult not load /opt/Qtopia/plugins/phonevendors/libficgta01vendor.so errorString() The plugin '/opt/Qtopia/plugins/phonevendors/libficgta01vendor.so' uses incompatible Qt library. Expected build key arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi What can I do to make QPE take the new library? Mhmmh... I should have compiled qtopia using the -buildkey option but I didn't since I thought that it was changing each time I was building it... Well, I figure that the only way to avoid this is recompiling qtopia :|. -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] using qtmail on command line
Matthias Apitz wrote: I figured out that 'qtmail' is the application for sending SMS (and other messages); is there a way to SSH to the FR and send a SMS from the command line, for example like: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# qtmail +491704527211 Hello World I don't really know if there's a way to do it, btw an Italian user found a workaround for this. The article [1] is written in Italian but the code (in python) should be easy to understand. If I'm not remembering wrong, using D-bus, is possible to retrieve only SMSs and calls (not to send). [1] http://gecco.wordpress.com/2008/10/13/openmoko-spedire-sms-da-terminale/ -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved
Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Wednesday, October 15, 2008 a las 08:18:40AM +0200, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) escribió: Here you are [1]. It includes also the mwester fix for re-registering network and my workaround for GSM firmware crash. I hope it won't have any incompatibility with your installed Qtopia... [1] http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/libficgta01vendor-echo-cancellation.so.tar.gz Thanks for this. the outgoing RING tone nearly killed my ear; with 111 for value.[01] it is fine, but with the above described noise; what is your gsmhandset.state file for this? thx again I'm pratically using the standard gsmhandset.state... I've to say that in my experience in noisy places the main speaker volume (for ringing) isn't so loud... -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Rasterman Image...
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: In the enlightenment archives there's a new Rasterman image: New updates from Rasterman (ehy, why don't you add RSS feeds to your site?! :P): http://www.rasterman.com/. To underline a new image [1] and some scripts to get the same by compiling [2]. In his files folder there's also a nice mockup for the GTA03 hw [3]! [1] http://download.enlightenment.org/misc/Illume/Freerunner/2008-10-12/ [2] http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/TMP/oe [3] http://www.rasterman.com/files/gta03-idea-1.png -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved
Lorn Potter wrote: Hello, I finally found a place in the qtopia sources where I could put code for activating the echo suppression for every incoming/outgoing call. I'm quite sure that experienced qtopia programmers would find a better place for it. A better place for stuff needed for a particular modem, would be in the phone vendor plugin. That's what its there for. Not to defray this patch, but this is very calypso specific, and not part of the GSM spec. (although any other modem would most likely just spit out an error) I agree... That's why some weeks ago I started something like that but I've not pushed out the code yet... I'll attach as soon as I can. -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New rotate version
Vikas Saurabh wrote: On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 12:10 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 06:15:58PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 10:26:48PM +0200, Oscar Casamitjana wrote: screenfp = fopen (/sys/class/backlight/pcf50633-bl/brightness,w); Excellent idea, I'll implement it in my newRotate and make a new release. BTW, I still can't commit... https://admin-trac.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1563 OK, new newrotate version, taking usage of brightness to use less energy and a nicer rotation. http://blog.1407.org/2008/10/14/openmoko-newrotate-checks-brightness/ Rui This seems pretty stable than the previous one. The brightness effect is nice, but the event, apparently, is hitting even if the phone is moved a little (i was trying to type a message). The brightness thing started to feel too much pain, so I killed the rotate instance (from a separated ssh session). Unfortunately, the program had thought that I am rotating and hence had brightness set to 0 when I killed it. So, I was left with a switched off screen :). So, 2 cents from my side (1) The brightness effect (and rotation) should be applied only we are switching orientation (I am not too sure if accels would give that data directlybut keeping a state can be a workaround...it would give some false positives and negative, but would have a better output) (2) We might like to put a close program handler which would try to reset the brightness to the last read brightness value (if the rotation was in progress while the program was closed) I can't say other than agreeing! Those are the two missing things. -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Lorn Potter wrote: Hello, I finally found a place in the qtopia sources where I could put code for activating the echo suppression for every incoming/outgoing call. I'm quite sure that experienced qtopia programmers would find a better place for it. A better place for stuff needed for a particular modem, would be in the phone vendor plugin. That's what its there for. Not to defray this patch, but this is very calypso specific, and not part of the GSM spec. (although any other modem would most likely just spit out an error) I agree... That's why some weeks ago I started something like that but I've not pushed out the code yet... I'll attach as soon as I can. Ok, a first implementation is now at ticket #1267 -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko to shift to 2.6.27 kernel ?
Joel Newkirk wrote: On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 12:03:53 +1100, Sarton O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm guessing with the current scenario, invoking a generic boot from nor means you lose any benefits of an updated u-boot/qi in nand? As in you may see power management regressions and the like? Sarton Correct. NOR U-Boot only supports SD booting off FAT+EXT3, for example - if the kernel isn't in a FAT/VFAT partition it barfs. (though interestingly it should be possible to boot the same distro off SD with either of two kernels - Qi looking for /boot/uImage.bin and NOR UBoot looking for a uImage file in the root of a FAT partition) Isn't there a way to update/configure the NOR u-Boot too? -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko to shift to 2.6.27 kernel ?
Andy Green ha scritto: Cédric Berger wrote: On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 09:34, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's planned for partition selection is you will in future be able to press AUX while Qi is pulling in the kernel it selected to abort the load and move to next usable partition, so I think multiboot will work out fine if you can remember which n'th rootfs it is you want... hopefully only a problem for people with 2. But in this case will you have visual feedback on this partition switch ? We can flash an LED to acknowledge we skipped that partition, so you can see what's happening. For more complex multi-boots, could the solution be a partition booting a simple kernel and show a multi-boot screen, from were you can ask Qi to re-boot on a given other partition ? (or even simply continue with already loaded kernel if wanted) Yes... it's also discussed, a recovery / backup kernel and rootfs that can execute other kernels. There are big advantages for us in a normal Linux implementation that is actually maintainable from single source tree for kernel and common packageset for the rootfs associated with it. Networking can be up so you can ssh in to rescue or update partitions, etc, all the normal Linux goodness comes pretty much for free then. But in general it will be slower than clicking AUX if all you want is to select another partition. I know but I'd agree on adding a menu for switching partions... Actually I'm using the u-boot with a multi-boot and I'm very happy with it (pratically I've made 6 partitions in my µSD, in the first one I keep the kernels named with uImage-name-of-the-distro.bin and in the others I've put the needed rootfs; so I can run easily lots of distros), but if Qi could improve the performances I'd like to get the same also without u-Boot. Is all this possible/planned? -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] matchbox-keyboard font
Davide Scaini wrote: i just hope that very soon will be possible to use something like the illume keybord... this matchbox-kb is pretty unusable... but works ;-) Finally... How much is far the e build for debian? :P Btw, is there anyway to get the matchbox kb auto-popup? -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.9 wifi icon
William Kenworthy wrote: Has anyone figured out how to control the wifi icon in 2008.9. It currently stays on after the first connection and never goes off until the next reboot. The icon is working. The problem stays (as always) in the wifi driver. -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Editing text files
SCarlson wrote: Check out nano . +1 -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: NetworkManager port
Christian Adams wrote: wicd on debian is functional but for me it eats up to much mem and often cpu .. since i found no mem-savy alternative i got back to manually ifup/ down wifi .. To use debian in a functional way (especially when I run midori or iceweasel) I had to use swap... So I've made a swapfile in the flash memory and I mount it on boot. It seems to work better! -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko to shift to 2.6.27 kernel ?
Armin ranjbar wrote: On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 15:22:54 +0200 Bumbl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe because afaik powertop is by intel and for x86 cpus only? humm ... is it ? since debian has Arm package for that , i thought its usable on arm Yes it is usable... I've tried it weeks ago and it basically said me that gpsd was using really so much cycles also if the GPS was off, that's why I generally kill it if I've no GPS need. But it was saying also many other things that kernel devs should understand better than me. Will it be considered for optimizing the power usage? -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2.6.26 kernel testing?
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 06:11:12PM +1300, Glen Ogilvie wrote: Does anyone have some pre-built 2.6.26 kernels that could be tested? I am wondering if I should compile something from the git kernel tree. I don't care if wifi does not work, but need something that will suspend and resume. Been using: uImage-gta02-g291a9d50_mwester-stable.bin but still get WSOD on resume. Also, doesn't 2.6.26 incorporate the tickless Linux patches? Won't that help with resoure usage? I figure they're not for arm arch. They've been added firstly to x86 then to 64bit if I'm not remembering wrong. Btw Andy got a 2.6.26 image loading, but it's still alpha (see kernel ML). -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: NetworkManager port
Michele Renda wrote: There is already Network manager available on Debian @ Armel4. It is running, but seem to be it doesn't recognize the Wifi card of FR. What would you use as a Network manager in Debian? Months ago I got wicd working in Om2008, but it wasn't so good for the finger usability (and quite slow in some tasks), but maybe it would be better in debian! I've to give it a try! -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2008] Documentation for .kbd-files?
Konstantin wrote: Is there any documentation available that describes the format of the .kbd-files the Illume-Keyboard uses? I'd like to build a german qwertz-layout (comes in handy for writing SMS ;) ), but don't quite understand the format of the corresponding keyboard config files. AFAIK there's no docs about it, but it's quite easy... I suggest you starting editing the Default keyboard and as you can see there each key has a position (key x y) and the role of the key itself (normal, shift capslock). So for example a code like: key 5 0 10 10 normal q q shiftQ Q capslock 1 1 will put a key in the position (5,0) and that key will show a q in normal mode, a Q in shift mode and a 1 in capslock mode. Then while both using the normal and shift mode the char written will be checked with the dictionary, in the capslock mode the char will be directly prompted in the text field. In fact you've to use something like this: key $x-pos $y-pos 10 10 mode $char-to-be-shown-in-the-key $char-xcode-to-be-written mode $char-to-be-shown-in-the-key $char-to-be-checked-with-dict Btw I don't know what the 10 and 10 means (maybe the key size? But this seems strange since in the terminal keyboard they're set to 30 30) I've to ask this to Rasterman! I hope I've been enough clear... :P -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fun using power button LEDs as battery indicator
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have written other script for that LEDs some time ago, it's called ledd and it's indicating charging state and transferring data over wifi. http://openmoko.opendevice.org/~dos/ledd Look also at openmoko-led [1]; it was the first led implementation, it's written in C and uses few resources for getting your phone a little more colored :P [1] http://www.smurfy.de/files/neo/openmoko-led-v1.tar.gz -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Rasterman Image...
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto: On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:52:00 +0200 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: So this is a little utility I wrote [1] to check the frequency of each word and writing back a new dictionary with frequency data. To run it you need php-cli (I guess v5 or above), set the given options, do php words-popularity.php and wait the work to be finished! :P It could be a long work, but it should give good results. yes. it would. who wants to run it? :) I've done it for about 42 words. Divinding the work in 5 shells went quite fine and took few hours, but now Google blocked it. I didn't know that I wasn't allowed to do it :/. I figure we should change our source :P. nb. i checked illume's kbd code - it does have issues with utf8 keysequences in sorted dicts. if you have any it'll fail to keep looking for more words so you need to remove anything utf8 from your dict :( yes - i know. bad. i need to address this. and the change in dict format i am sure 1. makes this now simple, 2. compresses the dict, 3. speeds it up, 4. solves this problem. :) but i just need to do it - no time right now :( Yes, I do agree with this. Using a better compressed format would increase the performances allowing to add more words. I think that the qtopia dawg format is a good example for this. I just hope you'll find some time for it soon :P. -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Rasterman Image...
Cédric Berger wrote: On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 08:10, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ummm. Nice try, but see the results below. I ran this remotely on my workstation at work, since it's right on a 20mb fiber... Hopefully I'll be allowed to use Google again by the time I get in to work tomorrow... ;) hmm. looks like we need a botnet to distribute the queries! :) each bot does 1000 of them... :) Or maybe it is possible to ask google to be allowed to do such a task ? Maybe, as reported in their license, it would be possible since I don't think that we really use their data (i.e. search results them selves) but only the number of the results they have for a single word, and this shouldn't be nothing of bad for them, considering also that the script ask only a result per page and that the search time is always really low. Anyone could contact the G? BTW we could also using another search engine as source... -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Rasterman Image...
Joel Newkirk wrote: On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 10:52:13 +1100, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:52:00 +0200 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: So this is a little utility I wrote [1] to check the frequency of each word and writing back a new dictionary with frequency data. To run it you need php-cli (I guess v5 or above), set the given options, do php words-popularity.php and wait the work to be finished! :P It could be a long work, but it should give good results. yes. it would. who wants to run it? :) Ummm. Nice try, but see the results below. I ran this remotely on my workstation at work, since it's right on a 20mb fiber... Hopefully I'll be allowed to use Google again by the time I get in to work tomorrow... ;) j [1328/98568] [1329/98568] [1330/98568] Unknown Popularity of Aeneid's [1331/98568] Unknown Popularity of Aeolus [1332/98568] Unknown Popularity of Aeolus's [1333/98568] Unknown Popularity of aeon [1334/98568] Unknown Popularity of aeon's [1335/98568] Unknown Popularity of aeons [1336/98568] Unknown Popularity of aerate [1337/98568] Unknown Popularity of aerated [1338/98568] Unknown Popularity of aerates [1339/98568] Unknown Popularity of aerating [1340/98568] Unknown Popularity of aeration [1341/98568] Unknown Popularity of aeration's [1342/98568] Unknown Popularity of aerator [1343/98568] Unknown Popularity of aerator's [1344/98568] Unknown Popularity of aerators [1345/98568] After which browsing to www.google.com results in: Google Error As said above, after that I was able to collect informations for about 42 words, Google blocked it since bigG doesn't allow to use these batch searches (I didn't know :P). The only way to do it like I did is asking the permission to Google, I guess. -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: one day usage of qtextended
Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: - when using the dialer and then selecting a contact, it would be nice to have the same letter-select as in the normal contact-list There are some patches for Om2008's qtopia at bug #1966 [1]. I figure that they can be easily ported to Qt extended too. [1] http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1966 -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
