RE: latest and greatest, progress mail 5 (stable 2.6.28 usage)

(rootfs and kernel) do you use/recommend? I am running Qte for some time now as daily phone and your list sounds really interesting! Roland ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo

RE: latest and greatest, progress mail 5 (stable 2.6.28 usage)

Hello Franky, I guess I should have read that first. Very good documentation! Thank you, I will try it out real soon. Roland ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

RE: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 7

office I repeated this and it showed Unknown but as number Roland/bp - which is how it is stored on the SIM-card. One question: Do you recommend using qi or uboot? Or do both just work fine? Thanks so far, Roland -Original Message- From: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org

RE: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 7

Hi Franky, A new version is available that fixes the issue with incoming phonenumbers being parsed wrong (was a typo of me): http://users.telenet.be/liedekef/qte_20090416.tgz . I installed it yesterday, the phone number bug is indeed gone now. Great response time! Roland

[Qtei] Which IDE for Development?

for development - but I have to admit I don't have a clue what to install. Any comment and recommendation is welcome! Roland ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

RE: [Qtei] Which IDE for Development?

or does Qt Creator work just with the Makefile? Many simple questions... please excuse this, but since I am usually developing on a Windows machine (99.9% of our customers are running Windows) I'm not so familiar with the whole build and development process under Windows. Thanks, Roland

RE: [Qtei] Which IDE for Development?

specific classes or Qtextended itself? Roland ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

RE: [QT*] unpredictive keyboard

the option Change input Method changes into a submenu. Roland ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

RE: [QtEI] Translation suggestion

in Gui-classes this is normally the case. To sum up: Personally I prefer tr(), but it doesn't really matter what you use. Roland -Original Message- From: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org [mailto:community- boun...@lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of Fabio Locati Sent: Thursday, April 30

RE: [QtEI] Translation suggestion

QObject. Roland ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

RE: [QtEI] Translation suggestion

the meta-object system under http://doc.trolltech.com/qtextended4.4/metaobjects.html. I hope this didn't create more confusion... Roland ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Incorrect UPS tracking numbers?

I just got my Your order has shipped! email (yay!), but the UPS tracking number included showed a package signed for by Mike (not my name) in San Ramon, CA, (not where my address is). Did that happen to anyone else? Since I'm also in the San Francisco Bay area, I'm hoping my package will already

Re: Community update, January 2, 2008

officially committed to a US 850MHz version of GTA02? Will this version ship at the same time as the 900MHz version? Thanks, Roland ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: GTA02 processor speed

Gizmodo quotes an Open Moko press release and mentions that the GTA02 has a 500 MHz processor - http://gizmodo.com/339965/openmoko-launches-neo-freerunner-open+source-smartphone-for-the-masses Yes: the original official press release on business wire

Re: Official Reseller

/beta-bugs. :) All good work out there! :) Regards, Roland signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Official Reseller

given the intentional lack of a date from Openmoko officials I am a bit confused by the certainty of the date TRIsoft is advertising. [cutted] Apparently this does not work reliably. I just tried that (at ~17:00CEST) with the number 0800 8757638 in Germany and have been told that there is

Re: Official Reseller

On Saturday, 22. March 2008, thomasg wrote: @Jan: Of course there is no connection for this number - the number is 0800 87*4* 7638. Oh, I didn't realize it so quickly. My phone has letters under the numbers printed. Anyway. Let's see what the future delivers to us... :D signature.asc

Re: Buy the Neo fra Norway

350 EURO + 5 EURO for shipping and handling to me as a german citizen. They are from Germany so I don't know if they sell to Norway as well and under the same conditions. So maybe higher SH price. :/ Order together with many people as you can get. And yes, get their money first... ;-) Roland

Re: When will you update the Production Status, steve?

These people are *really* horney on a free phone... ;-) Just the result of my watching this list. :) I can wait here long thats not the problem. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Multi-Level Markting - Is OpenMoko interested in?

On Tuesday, 6. May 2008, Stefan Misch wrote: Hello Roland, Hi Stefan, while I think that the OpenMoko should get more attention in the media I don't think it's a good idea to use all methods you mentioned. I have just listed possible ways. Taking all ways would be too much and maybe wrong. I

Re: Qemu image?

As far as I understand the logic and the version number: Yes. But I might be wrong. :) On Friday, 16. May 2008, George Brooke wrote: Hi people, could some one explain this to me, Is the OM image that you get when you build qemu with the mokomakefile fairly close to the system that will

Re: [Announcement] MokoMakefile updated for switch to git

-update ) error: pathspec 'org.openmoko.april-update' did not match any file(s) known to git. Did you forget to 'git add'? I got the same error message here. Something seems to be missing (I'm not familar with git). Roland signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

PIN secured?

I have already started a discussing in the Wiki about this topic: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Wish_List_-_Hardware#PIN_secured.3F So what do you think? And does the FreeRunner already have PINs/PUKs to be secured against long fingers? Best whishes, Roland -- (GNU) PGP ID: 0x4D385570

Re: [Announcement] MokoMakefile updated for switch to git

Ahhh... Much better. :) Now let's see if I can run a make update all... -- (GNU) PGP ID: 0x4D385570 Weblog: http://blog.mxchange.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: [Announcement] MokoMakefile updated for switch to git

Ahhh... Much better. :) Now let's see if I can run a make update all... And thanks a lot. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Fwd: PIN secured?

I have added it to hardware because it could be (maybe) integrated into the hardware and shall come up before u-boot launches the kernel. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: PIN secured?

. I did not know this. :) Thanks for the infos. Roland signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?

For the rest I am in accord to don't press them to ask always when it will come out... When it's done. ;) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?

if it takes 2 weeks longer and the people from OpenMoko (Sean for example) is keeping us up-to-date. Thats what they can do until it is released and ready for beta. :) Roland signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko

Re: Europe Distribution

On Thursday, 22. May 2008, Steven Le Roux wrote: What about Europe distribution ;). Let's come back to the subject :) As I have read here in mailing list, TriSoft, Germany will do it. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: Cleared to start Mass production

Hi, On Thursday, 5. June 2008, steve wrote: The latest update I have from the factory indicates that mass Production ( that means running the SMT line without stopping to check stuff every two seconds) has been CLEARED TO START. Is this the mail I have waited for? :D -- (GNU) PGP ID:

Re: Cleared to start Mass production #2

Hi, On Thursday, 5. June 2008, steve wrote: The latest update I have from the factory indicates that mass Production ( that means running the SMT line without stopping to check stuff every two seconds) has been CLEARED TO START. Is this the mail I have been waiting for? :D Second try

Re: InvisibleShield screen protectors

or smartphone behind some cover. The cover costs mostly lesser than the smart phone so you may think about it. :) Roland signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http

Trac down?

Hi OpenMoko team, it looks like your Trac at http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ is down? Roland -- (GNU) PGP ID: 0x4D385570 Weblog: http://blog.mxchange.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community

Fwd: Re: latest stable rootfs and kernel

Doh? It fires up but where is this beautiful desktop wallpaper? Ok, maybe I can find it somewhere in the configs. :) Roland signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community

Re: latest stable rootfs and kernel

. So I need to wait if this Englightment problem turns up again. :) Roland thanks Rakshat -- (GNU) PGP ID: 0x4D385570 Weblog: http://blog.mxchange.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community

GTA - Two models? Was: GTA03: New case? Bigger screen!

but bigger screen. Maybe there is one available? Surely the software shipped with this OpenMoko doesn't need include software which requires the gaming controls. Any further ideas? :) Roland On Tuesday, 10. June 2008, Ortwin Regel wrote: There has been all this fruitless talk about resolution. Well

Audio in qemu?

Hi, I wonder if audio support is available when I build the qemu with MokoMakefile and make qemu? Sorry for bad english. :) I'm still improving it. ;) BTW: I have added --enable-alsa to the configure script because I have ALSA here. Roland signature.asc Description: This is a digitally

Re: GTA - Two models? Was: GTA03: New case? Bigger screen!

Ah, thanks for making it clear. :) On Tuesday, 10. June 2008, Ortwin Regel wrote: For the record: I was talking about the gaming controls of my Tapwave Zodiac. I realize that this was probably not all that clear from the context and apologize. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally

Re: Fwd: Re: Bestellung openmoko

On Wednesday, 2. July 2008, Marcel wrote: Short translation: Your packet has begun its trip today! Mine is canceled by myself today. :( Guess what was the reason... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko

Re: Fwd: Re: Bestellung openmoko

On Wednesday, 2. July 2008, Diego Fdez. Durán wrote: What's the reason? the delay? Nope. That would be fine. Low money. :( I'm waiting to know when my FR will be shiped from Pulster too. -- (GNU) PGP ID: 0x4D385570 Weblog: http://blog.mxchange.org signature.asc Description: This is a

Re: Import Contacts

/nano/gedit/whatever contacts.txt $ ssh openmoko python manage-contacts.py load contacts.txt As far as I'm concerned (look, I'm a Debian integrist, I'm *supposed* to care about these things :-), my modifications to the initial script are subject to the WTFPL. Roland. -- Roland Mas Plus on en fout

Re: Import Contacts

Roland Mas, 2008-07-14 15:09:34 +0200 : - you can dump all contacts to a file (a series of concatenated vcards); Forgot to mention: that feature uses a gross hack, I'd be happy to see it cleaned up. I just didn't manage to find the query syntax for the getContactList() method. Roland

Re: Import Contacts

another account on yet another website. Could you add the link (and maybe rephrase the text on the article to remove the thing about running from a terminal rather than SSH)? Thanks, Roland. [1] http://www.placard.fr.eu.org/~roland/tmp/manage-contacts.py -- Roland Mas ()Campagne du

Re: Calendar

a CalDAV server that I use with Sunbird/Iceowl and Evolution, on both my main computer and my laptop when I'm away from home, and I'd just *love* to access it from my phone too. Any insight would be most welcome. Roland. -- Roland Mas Plant a radish, get a radish, never any doubt! -- Bellamy

Re: Import Contacts

starting with E rather than at the very end. The backside of that is that agpsui tries to interpret gpsd's output as fr_FR, with its decimal separator set to a comma rather than a dot, and therefore wrong data comes out. But I suspect that's just a bug. Roland. -- Roland Mas /* Halley */ (Halley's

Re: Battery Lifetime

touchscreen prevents further suspends. Roland. -- Roland Mas Qu'est-ce qui est petit, jaune et vachement dangereux ? Un canari avec le mot de passe de root. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman

Re: Battery Lifetime

arne anka, 2008-07-18 15:09:01 +0200 : is there a way to detect when it wakes? a hook to plug custom actions into? You might try sticking a script in /etc/apm/resume.d, at least as a first approach. Roland. -- Roland Mas Certains disent que les vrais hommes ne font pas de backups. Mais ils

Re: Reason for GPS problems found!

that for, well, the first fix. *Apparently*, there are circumstances where running agpsgui once, getting a fix, exiting and restarting afterwards, doesn't result in the FR getting a new fix. As you said, rebooting solves the problem, but suspend/resume cycles don't seem to reliably fix it. Roland

Re: Reason for GPS problems found!

Timo Jyrinki, 2008-07-18 13:42:02 +0300 : Does anyone else have a reliability problem now with the new kernel and GPS when SD card is used? Am Fr 18. Juli 2008 schrieb Roland Mas: I have. Didn't manage to properly isolate the problem, but my gut feeling is that Andy's patch to disable SD

Re: Rules based policy engine

. You could approximate with the GSM cell identifiers. Roland. -- Roland Mas Et c'est tellement plus mignon de se faire traiter de con en chanson... -- in En chantant (Michel Sardou) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Special Letters?

guess the problem is mostly the input method. Roland. -- Roland Mas Bee There Orr Bee A Rectangular Thyng! -- in Soul Music (Terry Pratchett) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: Import Contacts

with signature s on interface org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.addressbook.Book doesn't exist I have installed via opkg python-dbus per wiki instructions. Strange. It still works here. You do have openmoko-contacts2 installed, right? You're not using ASU or Qtopia or something? Roland. -- Roland Mas

Re: Import Contacts

something needs the daemon to be started, and it's not started initially... Roland. -- Roland Mas Au royaume des aveugles, il y a des borgnes à ne pas dépasser. -- in Soeur Marie-Thérèse des Batignolles (Maëster) ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Reason for GPS problems found!

there. Now this gets me wondering whether the Freerunner could sustain an Openstreetmap editor for realtime map-making :-) Roland. -- Roland Mas Homme qui plus rien à dire, citer proverbe chinois. -- Proverbe chinois. ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Matchbox Keyboard Layout Change

according to the same methods that gave us the Dvorak-ish keyboard layouts, in which case I'm all in favour :-) Roland. -- Roland Mas Why did the elephant cross the road? Because it was the chicken's day off. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community

Re: Has anyone tried the invisibleSHIELD on the freerunner?

after the customs took their toll :-/ Roland. -- Roland Mas One... two... one, two, many, lots! -- Lias, in Soul music (Terry Pratchett) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: sysfsutils -- the script

to switch the LED off. Andy? Roland. -- Roland Mas Reincarnation likes a joke as much as the next philosophical hypothesis. -- in The Truth (Terry Pratchett) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org

Re: sysfsutils -- the script

:19 CEST with Version: 2:2.6.24+git24+be0f111b3d1570dec174ff301d08bad995ccf1e6-r0 (and yes, I have rebooted into it :-) Roland. -- Roland Mas La menace de la baffe pèse plus lourd que la baffe elle-même. -- in Sri Raoul le petit yogi (Gaudelette

Re: How to import vCard into contacts

Maciej Piechotka, 2008-07-24 11:58:03 +0200 : On my previous phone I had large collection of the contacts (email, phones etc.). I've exported it by gammu to the vCard format. How to import them into OpenMoko Contacts? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Import_Vcf_Contacts Roland. -- Roland Mas

Re: Ringtone and vibration configuration

Hans L, 2008-07-26 03:55:14 -0500 : I think next I will attempt to make a program to record beats in real time by pressing the touchpad to the beat. And next, you'll port Guitar Hero or Frets On Fire, and you'll be adulated by lots of people :-) Roland. -- Roland Mas The cherry blossom

Re: wrong offset of mouse in landscape mode (and scummvm)

], and it autocompletes to scummvm. the file is marked as executable. I can't see anything wrong. This usually means a broken (or missing) interpreter. If /usr/bin/scummvm is a compiled binary, then the interpreter would be libc6/ld.so, but I assume you'd have been bitten by that earlier... Roland. -- Roland Mas

Re: Freerunner for Sale

Pricing? And what about w/o ATT card? I have a phone-free E-Plus (german provider) here. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: GPRS / Wifi

package that does exactly this. I guess it could be ported to Openmoko. Roland. -- Roland Mas M-x execute-extended-command ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: GPRS / Wifi

and have pre/post scripts in /etc/network/interfaces or /etc/network/*.d, but that's a matter of taste. Roland. -- Roland Mas - Ogenki desuka, yau de poêle ? - Genki desu, ture en zinc. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http

Re: 2008.9 - Was Re: Third request: what *is* the warranty on the Freerunner?

be able to accomplish much even if it was a single command to run. Half an hour. 15 commands to copy and paste. How much more hand-holding does a developer need? Roland. -- Roland Mas A man walks into a bar. Bang. ___ Openmoko community mailing

Re: 2008.9 - Was Re: Third request: what *is* the warranty on the Freerunner?

:-) (In order not to degenerate into a DSW, here are my own contributions so far: 1. a Python script to load and save contacts to files in 2007.2, and 2. a failed attempt at another script to switch from lock-and-suspend to lock-only when a call is active. You win hands down.) Roland. -- Roland Mas

Re: 2008.9 - Was Re: Third request: what *is* the warranty on the Freerunner?

milestone 3. In the meantime, there is http://wiki.debian.org/pkg-fso. Roland. -- Roland Mas How does an octopus go into battle? Fully-armed. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: atd: how to start a job every 10 minutes ?

, cron is for recurring jobs. Roland. -- Roland Mas ... all in all it's just another rule in the firewall. -- Ping Flood ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- now official

:~# Still not small enough to fit into NAND flash, unfortunately. Roland. -- Roland Mas C r ' s d a ue ell r a u i r . -- Signatures à collectionner, série n°1, partie 1/3. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community

Re: Numptyphysics on [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Michele Renda, 2008-09-01 10:56:52 +0200 : It will be nice to have a little repository for all the person that use Debian on FR where they can find the programs that are unavailable on the Debian official channed ! That's exactly what the pkg-fso repository is about, you know. Roland

Re: [debian gps] How to check gps

I'm stuck at home working, but I get a fix that lasts for as long as I've looked at it so far. Roland. -- Roland Mas Au royaume des aveugles, les borgnes n'ont qu'un oeil. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http

Re: [debian gps] How to check gps

. Is the gps-time correctly shown in tangogps? I must confess I don't look at GPS time that often (NTP is there for a reason :-). Now you mention it, it seems to believe we are currently on the 30th of November, 2008 at midnight. Roland. -- Roland Mas Bonjour, je suis un virus de signature

Re: [debian gps] How to check gps

Fox Mulder, 2008-09-24 18:28:25 +0200 : Ok, than this bug still exists. Actually... I left the FR running since my last mail, and it now displays the correct GPS time. I didn't keep an eye on it, so I don't know how long it took. Roland. -- Roland Mas Bee There Orr Bee A Rectangular Thyng

Re: [debian] how to build emacs 23?

[EMAIL PROTECTED], 2008-10-07 10:02:56 +0200 : I would like to build emacs 23 for Freerunner on Debian, but I have no clear idea how to do it. Pointers would be appreciated. Unofficial source packages are available on http://emacs.orebokech.com/ Roland. -- Roland Mas In every life you got

RE: Any hope for bug #666?

- since I don't have any UMTS-modem at hand I couldn't try it out, so this doesn't seem to be the problem. Anyway I am happy to be able to use my Freerunner now. I will take a picture of the pin-layout soon and put it on the ticket site. Regards, Roland From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: QtExtended 4.4.2 : GPRS

Hello, in which script did you change the dialup number? I have to change the one for my provider too but don ‘t want to use the console to create the connection. Thanks, Roland -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nishit Dave Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 8:15

RE: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2

and now I don't have any sound problems during calls. Since I don't want to switch phones all the time, I am using the Freerunner with Qtextended 4.4.2 in daily use. I'm still looking how to fix some annoying stuff, but am already very happy with the system. Roland

Newbie: Converting a brick to a phone

. The temptation is just to say oh well, I'll just leave it and go and play with Android or get an iPhone but that is not what I got onto this for... Roland -- QURU Ltd, London smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Openmoko community

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

# ## ## ## ## (international format) or 0# ## ## ## ## (without the international prefix). Sometimes the ## components are grouped by pairs, giving two blocks of digits, but that's not quite common. Digits (or groups of digits) are usually separated by spaces, but sometimes by dots (as in 0#.##.##.##.##). Roland

Re: How do you like to read a phone number?

Michele Renda, 2008-12-29 13:27:45 +0100 : Il 29/12/2008 13:20, Roland Mas ha scritto: For France (+33), the usual format is +33 # ## ## ## ## (international format) or 0# ## ## ## ## (without the international prefix) Thank you for your answer. I have a question: this is valid

Re: bluetooth spam

users! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toothing Being far to square for such fun, it's fortunate that my train goes to Bognor! Roland On 24 Apr 2009, at 10:48, PaulTT wrote: i think spam via bluetooth is even worse than email spamming. more and more worse. :( the idea

Re: [SHR] emacs package

Following Łukasz's lead I've found this: http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/armv4t/emacs_22.3-r0_armv4t.ipk Will let you know if it works... Roland -- QURU Ltd, London ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: [SHR] emacs package

terminal app run: opkg install http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/armv4t/emacs_22.3-r0_armv 4t.ipk It takes a bit of time to install but when its there, there is no problem at all - works as it should Now to install fso-el: http://wiki.wjsullivan.net/collaboration.cgi/FsoEl Roland

Re: Hi

for their own enjoyment it's not really surprising and you can't really blame the teams) you've got a wide choice. This remains one of the main requirements of Openmoko in my opinion and could be a great way for the non-core-hackers to contribute. Roland -- QURU Ltd, London On 8/22/09, Risto H

How does well does this community work?

(hardware as well as software) what would you do and why? TIA Roland -- QURU, London ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

[QTMoko] What is the best way of moving my home directory to the SD Card?

mount it as /home/root, I could exit the /etc/ passwd file or I could symlink it. Ideally I'd love to have things like this in a How to page on the QTMoko wiki. Would anyone complain if I started such a page? TIA Roland ___ Openmoko community mailing