Re: Looking to pick up a FreeRunner
I personally would 2nd the motion to try Android on Freerunner, had a great experience up until I couldn't afford to pay the phone bill and stopped playing around with it. On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Niels Heyvaert nielsheyva...@hotmail.comwrote: Anyway, I had a disappointing and frustrating experience with my FR too until I discovered QtMoko because all of the distros I tried before QtMoko (Om 2008.x, Om 2009, SHR (misnomer++;)) were unusable. swoody: If you get an FR, please try QtMoko first. That way, if you decide to try other distros later, you can at least compare them to something usable (QtMoko). Since it wasn't mentioned as an alternative, you could also try Anroird on Freerunner 0.2 RC1. No distro war, just another option you could try and see if it works out for you. Niels. _ Speel samen met je vrienden de spelletjes die Windows Live je aanbiedt! http://www.messengerbillboard.be/nl/play ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] com.android.phone unexpectedly quits
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Braydon Fuller cour...@braydon.com wrote: limx 5886 wrote: how do you install the android? i install it from sd card, didn't meet the error I also installed from the SD card. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I installed from SD card and had this error, delete all APN's or fix one of them to have the correct information and delete the others. It is crashing due to an error in the APN settings most likely, that was the issue I ran into (B6, T-Mobile USA). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: US Buzz/GPS Fix
Also would love to see one in salt lake city Utah area since my fr has the buzz On 4/22/09, Doug Jones dj...@frombob.to wrote: +1 I'm also in California. If somebody threw a Buzz Fix party anywhere in California, I would be there. Isn't Openmoko in California too? Fremont Buzz Fix Party, anyone? I do have soldering experience, but not with such small parts. (In my day, everything was the size of a Buick.) But I'm game. Russell Dwiggins wrote: I'm interested as well. I'm in the Southern California area. I'm sure there's someone with the expertise in the area / country who can perform these fixes. Anyone? Russell Dwiggins -Original Message- From: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org [mailto:community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of Staley, Daniel L Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 11:01 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: US Buzz/GPS Fix Hi all, I keep hearing of these great Buzz Fix parties going on across Europe, and think it is great that the community is pulling together like that. Has there been any word of one of these events or just someone in the United States attempting the same thing? I'd love to get the fixes (Buzz and GPS for sureperhaps also the audio capacitor?) applied to my freerunner, but don't have the soldering tools or expertise requiredI'm more of a software guy. =P Thanks, -Dan Staley ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.1/2069 - Release Date: 04/20/09 10:36:00 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Sent from my mobile device ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: I realy like them
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 12:43 PM, drac2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Jokes http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Jokes:-p -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/I-realy-like-them-tp1563210p1563210.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Hilarious! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Re : Receiving empty sms after registration
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 6:47 AM, François Rigaudie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Same problem for me with the same french operator. I receive those SMS (_@ or _/\@) when I have a message in my voice-mailbox. Clearly they should be interpreted by the phone to indicate that a new message is waiting to be listened. I also have duplication of SMS messages in my FR every time I register. I don't know if this operator uses special protocol with this empty SMS or if the FR should interpret them. Does anybody knows something about that ? -- *De :* Alexandre Girard [EMAIL PROTECTED] *À :* List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org *Envoyé le :* Vendredi, 31 Octobre 2008, 13h03mn 33s *Objet :* Receiving empty sms after registration T-mobile USA has the same problem but ours come from 129 if I remember correctly. Also when you delete the message you'll get another one that also appears blank. This was tested on 2008.9 and FDOM based on 2008.8-update. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko planet language.
Maciej, In other words you'd like to be able to pull versions of planet that are english only or french only, etc, etc? I would like to second that motion if it is possible, I only read the english posts since all the rest are nothing I understand at all. -Shawn Maciej Ligenza wrote: Hi all, Would it be possible to make openmoko planet an aggregation of feeds in english language? Or possibly there could be introduced feeds like: planet.openmoko.org/en/rss20.xml, planet.openmoko.org/de/rss20.xml and planet.openmoko.org/rss20.xml to aggregate them all. I'm not capable of reading in german or french so posts in these languages (not to mention ?chineese?) are cluttering the channel for me. I want to make clear that I don't suggest that these are worthless. In addition to that channel descritpion in planet.openmoko.org/rss20.xml states that the channel is in english language. thanks Maciek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
DFUScript v0.1 - Script to help flashing
Community, I got a little bored today and somewhat inspired to write a script to help those flashing their freerunner or 1973 often. dfu-utils has to have a -d argument if you have multiple DFU capable devices on your computer. I got tired of typing out the -d and hex code or copy and paste so I wrote a nifty script that does that part of it for you. To use this script just login to your linux-machine as root and make sure that dfu-utils is in your path, if not go ahead and edit the PATH= line by appending :/path/to/your/script/folder to the end of that line. Example usage: ./dfuscript.sh fr kernel uImage-something.image.bin Please note this does NOT check to see if you are using a valid .image.bin, .bin, or .jffs2 so make sure that all file names are correct before pressing enter. The script will be on GForge soon but for now the script is available at http://projektenterprises.com/openmoko/dfuscript.sh -Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DFUScript v0.1 - Script to help flashing
Quick update: Thanks to Rod Whitby (rwhitby) I corrected some errors on the wiki page and the script itself (FreeRunner not subject to being bricked by u-boot update, etc). The new updated script can be downloaded from http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/dfuscript/ A wiki page with documentation has also been added at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/DFUScript Thanks, Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson Shawn Thompson wrote: Community, I got a little bored today and somewhat inspired to write a script to help those flashing their freerunner or 1973 often. dfu-utils has to have a -d argument if you have multiple DFU capable devices on your computer. I got tired of typing out the -d and hex code or copy and paste so I wrote a nifty script that does that part of it for you. To use this script just login to your linux-machine as root and make sure that dfu-utils is in your path, if not go ahead and edit the PATH= line by appending :/path/to/your/script/folder to the end of that line. Example usage: ./dfuscript.sh fr kernel uImage-something.image.bin Please note this does NOT check to see if you are using a valid .image.bin, .bin, or .jffs2 so make sure that all file names are correct before pressing enter. The script will be on GForge soon but for now the script is available at http://projektenterprises.com/openmoko/dfuscript.sh -Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download
David, This looks like a great image idea for having a prepackaged all-in-one. The only problem I found is that for some reason I kept getting kernel panics so I'm back off to stock OM2008.8 for now but will try downloading and flashing again tonight. -Shawn David Samblas wrote: Hi there, you have aviable on http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM a rootfs/kenel image ready to flash of an OM2008.08-updates distribution with some apps already installed and some fixes posted in the lists done. here you have more detailed information http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM/README.txt I recommend you to use wget -c to retrieve the files because of the server seems to cut the connection time to time, a most robust mirror is on the way Sugesstions , comments, and anything else will be welcome Regards and a hug David Samblas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download
Tomas, I'm pretty sure I would have caught it if I had just compared MD5's lol. Going to re-download when I get home where there is more bandwidth and then try again. Also added GPRS to my T-Mobile account tonight so we'll see if I can get that working too :). -Shawn Tomas Riveros Schober wrote: I used to have kernel panics too, and it was due to an incomplete download on my side. finished the download with wget -c and flashed again and everything was working great. hope its something like that and you solve your issue Shawn Thompson escribió: David, This looks like a great image idea for having a prepackaged all-in-one. The only problem I found is that for some reason I kept getting kernel panics so I'm back off to stock OM2008.8 for now but will try downloading and flashing again tonight. -Shawn David Samblas wrote: Hi there, you have aviable on http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM a rootfs/kenel image ready to flash of an OM2008.08-updates distribution with some apps already installed and some fixes posted in the lists done. here you have more detailed information http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM/README.txt I recommend you to use wget -c to retrieve the files because of the server seems to cut the connection time to time, a most robust mirror is on the way Sugesstions , comments, and anything else will be welcome Regards and a hug David Samblas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Duke Nukem 3D on Openmoko Neo
Thanks for the info :) -Shawn Dale Maggee wrote: I suspect that it won't run on 2007.2, because the accelerometers seem to be broken. I get Unknown Multivoc error code. when i try to run it in 2007.2. -Dale Shawn Thompson wrote: I'm SO installing that when my openmoko shows up! That is freakin sweet!. Will it run on 2007.2 or do you have to upgrade to 2008.8 and above? -Shawn Rafael Ignacio Zurita wrote: Hello people, I want to share a simple duke nukem 3d port for Neo which you can play using the accelerometer :) You can get all the files at: http://fz.hobby-site.org/om/duke-nukem-3d/ and the link below has the instructions: http://fz.hobby-site.org/om/duke-nukem-3d/readme-openmoko.txt Ah, if you have doubts about how to play, please check http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=260Kpiqv9_U and this: http://fz.hobby-site.org/om/duke-nukem-3d/how-to-play-duke.png Have fun! Rafa -- Rafael Ignacio Zurita Buenos Aires, Argentina ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Duke Nukem 3D on Openmoko Neo
I'm SO installing that when my openmoko shows up! That is freakin sweet!. Will it run on 2007.2 or do you have to upgrade to 2008.8 and above? -Shawn Rafael Ignacio Zurita wrote: Hello people, I want to share a simple duke nukem 3d port for Neo which you can play using the accelerometer :) You can get all the files at: http://fz.hobby-site.org/om/duke-nukem-3d/ and the link below has the instructions: http://fz.hobby-site.org/om/duke-nukem-3d/readme-openmoko.txt Ah, if you have doubts about how to play, please check http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=260Kpiqv9_U and this: http://fz.hobby-site.org/om/duke-nukem-3d/how-to-play-duke.png Have fun! Rafa -- Rafael Ignacio Zurita Buenos Aires, Argentina ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mofi on FR
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nishit Dave wrote: On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 9:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nishit Dave wrote: Why doesn't somebody fix the charmed file in the repos? This change has also been recommended in the GPRS with GSM Multiplexing and GUI subsection on the wiki. What happens in a real-world scenario is people trying to use vi on the phone's tiny screen estate, standing around wifi hotspots, if they know they have to change init() to _init(). Finding line 82 is very difficult unless you are a vi wizard. The tiny letters on the keyboard (and that's hoping it is raster's kbd, not the original one) make it even worse. vi command to locate line 82: :82 Then enter. Alakazam! hehe Sarton Cute! I only wish I had that information when I was fooling around on the FR looking like the ultimate geek in a public place. Oh, for the want of a proper text editor... I understand. There are very few commands that are required in order to use vi effectively but I know from experience, I was lucky to have learned these very early on in my *nix career. The best one I find is the ability to suck in output from an external command: !!grep value ./defaults/config A life saver when you have no copy and paste! Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Is there an opkg package for emacs? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mofi on FR
Rod Whitby wrote: Shawn Thompson wrote: Is there an opkg package for emacs? I've just added emacs (and tichy, pidgin, epdfview, microcom and midori) to task-openmoko-feed, so any properly-set-up feed for Openmoko (such as shr.bearstech.com) should have it after the next autobuild run. -- Rod ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Awesome, I'm supposed to receive my phone on sept 11th so I am looking forward to using emacs from my phone's terminal :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sold out ahh
Justin Wong wrote: I thought this might be useful. I created a page on the wiki, so no device will go unused. That would be a shame. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Classifieds Cheers! Justin On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:52 AM, Shawn Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I placed my order with Koolu, should be here within the next 2 weeks I hope. -Shawn On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 12:56 AM, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like I said, no dramas ... I was just hoping I'd get a lanyard, it's in the pictures :( could you post a link to that pics? i absotively cannot remember any mention of a lanyard ... (except in lanyard hole) Don't tell me we forgot to ship you the lanyard hole! That would be a severe oversight on our part. well, that would be comparably easy to fix, wouldn't it? Forgot to add that if we did, let me know - I think I have a spare one in my pocket :-) you got a lanyard hole in your pocket? who's your tailor? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Ordered friday, received my shipping notification today, should be here within 10 days. Can't wait! -Shawn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sold out ahh
Well I placed my order with Koolu, should be here within the next 2 weeks I hope. -Shawn On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 12:56 AM, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like I said, no dramas ... I was just hoping I'd get a lanyard, it's in the pictures :( could you post a link to that pics? i absotively cannot remember any mention of a lanyard ... (except in lanyard hole) Don't tell me we forgot to ship you the lanyard hole! That would be a severe oversight on our part. well, that would be comparably easy to fix, wouldn't it? Forgot to add that if we did, let me know - I think I have a spare one in my pocket :-) you got a lanyard hole in your pocket? who's your tailor? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: some hardware suggestions
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 7:26 AM, Dale Maggee [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Nishit Dave wrote: On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Dale Maggee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Genuine People Personality Module Would you prefer aaah...thanks for using me as your phone, or life, don't talk on me about it modes? I'd have to go with 'marvin mode', if my phone had a cheerful and sunny disposition and it was its pleasure to ring for me and its satisfaction to hang up again in the knowledge of a job well done, it would probably quickly find itself at the bottom of a deep, dark hole... having a self-satisfied phone seems more like the kind of thing apple would do... ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Just imagine if your phone woke up from an SMS message being called by the GSM and stated, I think you ought to know I'm feeling very depressed. Something like that would be worth six pints of bitter just before the world ends right? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: contacts: lookup on incoming call
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 7:40 AM, Dale Maggee [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Tom Yates wrote: using ASU (specifically, 20080826-asu-stable-uImage.bin and 20080827-asu-stable-rootfs.jffs2) i have a contacts database full of friends, imported via vcard, in which almost all the phone numbers are in internationally-qualified form (eg fred friend, +44 7971 123456). that way, i can dial them whatever country i happen to be in. but when i'm in the UK, and a UK call comes in, it shows up as just having a local number (eg 07971 123456). these two numbers are functionally the same, but the contacts-lookup that happens won't identify the caller as fred friend unless i edit the contacts entry to say 07971... rather than +447971... . a) do other people find this also? b) does this qualify as a bug? c) if so, is it a qtopia bug, and therefore (if i follow the discussion aright) not something that should be entered into the openmoko bug tracker? a) yes, I see the same thing. My workaround: Add the number in both formats to the contact (although this isn't strictly neccessary, because in AU on the vodafone network numbers seem to appear in the international format, so if the number is in the contact in the international format it generally works) b) I'd call it a bug, or maybe a feature... c) not exclusive to qtopia (I'm using 2007.2), but I suspect that it's a bug/feature common to more than one set of dialer / messaging / contacts programs, although I may be wrong. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community b) I'd call it a bug, or maybe a feature... By calling it a feature I feel compelled to ask, are you a Microsoft employee? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sold out aaaah
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 11:51 AM, carmen r [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 12:42:19PM -0600, Jeff Sadowski wrote: http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/neo-freerunner Maybe by the time I get a chance to buy one they will have enough processor power, ram and disk space to replace my laptop. Every time I even look to buy it I see the sold out. i believe the strategy is to order from a local distributor eg Koolu for north america The problem with ordering from Koolu is that there may be taxes or duty at the border that you wouldn't know about until the order is placed. I want to order mine but I'm afraid they'd charge a premium at the border to let it through. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sold out aaaah
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Shawn Thompson wrote: On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 11:51 AM, carmen r [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://whats-your.name wrote: On Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 12:42:19PM -0600, Jeff Sadowski wrote: http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/neo-freerunner Maybe by the time I get a chance to buy one they will have enough processor power, ram and disk space to replace my laptop. Every time I even look to buy it I see the sold out. i believe the strategy is to order from a local distributor eg Koolu for north america The problem with ordering from Koolu is that there may be taxes or duty at the border that you wouldn't know about until the order is placed. I want to order mine but I'm afraid they'd charge a premium at the border to let it through. Did you check the distributor section of our website? I think Koolu has a USA address as well now. Michael Their sales team stated it was still shipping from Canada when I wrote them recently. After the reply from Charles though I am just going to place my order Friday as I had originally planned to and not worry about it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Main page change notification
The new main page looks MUCH better. I also decided to test using IE6 via Wine and everything looks pretty good in my opinion. -Shawn On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 4:32 AM, Minh Ha Duong [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Dear friends, I just landed a big update to the main page ! http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page Hope you like it. Thanks to Ferenc, Bernt, Mercury, Montgoss and Stryderjzw for helping. Please express yourself by improving it further as you see fit. It definitely can use more polish: - The layout has been tested with Firefox and Konqueror only. - Obviously feeding the news automatically from an RSS flow would be better, as Aaron said. Pending that there will be a need to feed the newsbox manually. - I support Brian's remark that DOCS should be BUGS - I add that in the same linkbar, HOME and WIKI lead to the same page. In doubt, don't hesitate to use the Discussion tab of this page. I apologize in advance for not following up very closely in the next weeks, but familly vacations come first. Wishing everybody a smooth ASU experience soon, Minh -- Minh HA-DUONGChargé de recherche CNRS [EMAIL PROTECTED] CIRED, Campus du Jardin Tropical tel: +33 1 43 94 73 81 45bis ave. de la Belle Gabrielle fax: +33 1 43 94 73 70F94736 Nogent-sur-Marne, France Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://minh.haduong.com (work), http://minh69.blogspot.com (personal) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Questions: Daily Use, Community stability?
Hello Community, This is my first time starting a new thread in the mailing list and I felt that before investing $400 on something I should really think it out and ask a few questions. I will start with the questions regarding use as a day to day device. I need a minimum of two things from a phone: the ability to make and receive phone calls reliably and the ability to send and receive SMS messages reliably. From what I have read this is not always the case right now. If someone can verify that they have been using the device for this purpose for a matter of time I would really appreciate that. I have been waiting, patiently, for almost 3 years for this phone, since about the time that the 1973 sold out for the last time. I really do want to purchase a freerunner but unless I will be able to make it work as a phone I think I may be tied to my low end POS samsung t409 for the time being. My second set of questions revolve around the recent storms brewing in the community list. There has been a lot of fighting going on over ONE feature, the toggle option on the keyboard. Personally I would prefer to toggle mine myself but I am NOT going to get into arguments over that right now. What I would like to know is that if a major usability problem is reported by members of the community that we will not be placing information upon deaf ears. I am NOT a programmer but I love playing with anything Linux so the freerunner really looks like it would be fun to have. So long as I know that major problems (echo, the GPS issue, keyboard toggle option, etc) are going to at least be heard I will be willing to take some minor usability problems while a resolution is in the works. Thank you for taking the time to read and respond. -Shawn Thompson ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: In the press
Actually I can speak from experience that Matt has hit it on the head. I was having problems with the moko makefile while trying to test QEMU until I can afford to get the actual phone. I couldn't figure out why it was building with a broken GUI, luckily I knew about the mailing lists and someone was able to point me in the right direction. -Shawn On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 12:28 AM, Matt Joyce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My take on the problem is that if a new user searches for information, and finds something promising but it turns out to be wrong, or out of date, they will probably not update it. Once they find the information they may not remember (or be inclined) to go back and update it. What new user is going to start off by editing an article about stuff they don't know? Perhaps one method of identifying information, it to have a simple way to flagging an article as 'needs checking'. Wiki moderators and the community at large could focus their efforts there. MJ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Problem with QEMU and MokoMakefile
I've been wanting to test out the UI that is shown on the wiki and software reviews around the net. Upon building (make qemu) and letting it complete I got a very different UI that what I expected. Here's a couple of screenshots: http://projektenterprises.com/mokoshots/ Any ideas as to why I am getting this UI instead of the one I've seen across the web, I'm sure I had to have messed up along the way somewhere. -Shawn T. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Problem with QEMU and MokoMakefile
make qemu On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 6:44 AM, David Samblas Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what make instruction did you use? It begins like the ASU image file but as you notice I have no seen this initial screen before. --- El jue, 10/7/08, Shawn Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: De: Shawn Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Asunto: Problem with QEMU and MokoMakefile Para: OM-Community community@lists.openmoko.org Fecha: jueves, 10 julio, 2008 3:32 I've been wanting to test out the UI that is shown on the wiki and software reviews around the net. Upon building (make qemu) and letting it complete I got a very different UI that what I expected. Here's a couple of screenshots: http://projektenterprises.com/mokoshots/ Any ideas as to why I am getting this UI instead of the one I've seen across the web, I'm sure I had to have messed up along the way somewhere. -Shawn T.___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community __ Enviado desde Correo Yahoo! La bandeja de entrada más inteligente. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Problem with QEMU and MokoMakefile
Thank you Søren. I will give that a try tonight while I'm bored at work after-hours. -Shawn On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Søren Kristiansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just download the newest images from the buildhost and place them in images/openmoko/ and do: make flash-qemu-official make run-qemu I dont know why but it downloads an old bugged image (bugged in the emulator at least... dunno if it works on any of the neos) 2008/7/10 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've been wanting to test out the UI that is shown on the wiki and software reviews around the net. Upon building (make qemu) and letting it complete I got a very different UI that what I expected. Here's a couple of screenshots: http://projektenterprises.com/mokoshots/ I think is a Qtopia image. looks like monomakefile is downloading the qtopia jffs2 from buildhost.automated.it to de NAND of qemu ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Søren H. Kristiansen Stud. polyt., Software Engineering, University of Aalborg, Denmark ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: In the press
It is rather accurate. I went in an updated a few links to openembed and also ended up asking the community list for how to do proper emulation as the steps listed for mokomakefile were producing an unusable QEMU image. -Shawn On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:14 PM, Vinc Duran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's accurate. On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:41 PM, Matt Joyce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found this yesterday, thought it was quite an ok article. http://arstechnica.com/reviews/os/open-moko-software.ars This stood out for me *The tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation at the OpenMoko wiki*... Is this an accurate evaluation of the wiki ? If so, what can we do to fix it up, how do we identify old content and schedule it for updating? Matt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fwd: questions about our mailinglists]
I would second the idea of keeping the community lists and device-owner list separate. I follow the openmoko project as best I can but I cannot afford to purchase the phone yet so I don't subscribe to the owner's list, although I occasionally read the archives. -Shawn On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/8/08 Stroller wrote: Sean - you say in your post of 8 July 2008 14:27:41 BST that you're inclined to remove 'device-owners'. Can I ask you to consider a while longer, please? We're talking about circa 100 messages per day, so it might be best not to be too hasty. Maybe you could simply combine 'openmoko-devel' and 'distro-devel' into a single 'devel' list for the present and revisit the community device-owners decision after some more discussion, perhaps waiting a few weeks? Sure. I will ask Roh/Gismo to keep 'device-owners' open for a few more weeks. I actually woke up with new thoughts about this list, too. -Sean ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
