of
the standard port every headset should work. I also thought that the
openmoko (GTA01) headset has no mic. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Kevin
Am Montag, den 14.04.2008, 02:35 +0200 schrieb Marco Trevisan
(Treviño):
steve ha scritto:
Many people have voiced there opinion to me about what
Probably need to set up a wiki of stuff like this.
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of silence for the dead freerunner, death to ensure a product
free of defects :)
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The last of DVT testing is I think complete. These are destructive
tests.
Where we try to break the phone.
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, 12:36 -0700 schrieb steve:
Ok thanks dirk.
Frankly, some people thought the pouch sucked.
If I ship a pouch, you have no choice. you get my pouch.
My opinion: it's a phone sock.
Ideally I would love to have the community
develop this accessory if they want
wish, or decorate to your heart's content.
Half jokingly,
Michael
steve wrote:
Ok,
Well I apologize for killing the orange/white model. When I
get to place where I can figure what colors everyone wants and in what
ratios, then I can easily add colors. For now, folks are focused
of them legal) so, the team will make a decision.
We won't please everybody, but it will be a rational decision, based on
cost of the extra goodies, availability, and importance, and your feedback
Steve
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Exactly why we decided to do the 10 pack!
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What about a nice wiki
price, and openmoko can focus on open source hardware and
software.
Steve
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the CAD files.
So, that is the direction I am working toward. Open Engineering. Open
Marketing. Open Sales.
These culture changes take time. But from Sean on down we are committed to
move forward with them.
Steve
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I'll get the dimensions on the 10 pack, but we have reduced the size of the
individual box very much.
If you want to guess at shipping, figure at 10 pack will weigh on the order of
3 Kilo, and use the dimensions
Of the Neo 1973 to figure the total package size.
The average of shipping a single
finalized.
I have a question about the '10-pack'. I'm thinking about getting together
a group order for my local LUG. Suppose we have 11 people interested? Is
it more a 10-plus pack, or would that extra 1 phone have to be ordered at
full 399 price?
steve wrote:
I thought I would combine
: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
2008/4/13, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The STANDARD box contents will be a Phone and Battery. I expect to
add some other goodies, but only for the first few thousand buyers.
There won't be a charger in the standard box? And I thought there was a
custom charger
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The STANDARD box contents will be a Phone
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and no more stylus ?
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Erland Lewin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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That will be the subject of my next post. It's somewhat complicated
With a host of side issues. I look at it like debugging code. I try to fix
One issue at a time. Then test my fix. Then move onto the next problem and fix
that.
So, We had to prioritize issues.
First: get a good product line up,
of course it has all the goodies.
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Thank you Steve for precisions.
One more
Ha,
Dont go encouraging me with wacky ideas I like.
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But is the software going to depend
we actually wanted to promote local groups so we created a special product
for them
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a small group or club.
For these people we created a 10Pack. instead of 399 per phone, we will
charge 369 per phone.
Over the next few days I will explain the next steps we go through and how
the product will get distributed
Steve
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could run it at 500Mhz the battery life would suffer.
So. We designed it to run at 400. All the cpus are rated at 500.
Steve
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The accelerometers measure gforce. They measure this force at a certain
frequency ( the spec is out there) as with all accelerometers there is a
measurement error and a drift. the Phone has two 3 axis accelerometers, and
simple physics tells you if you have Xdotdot, Ydotdot, and Zdotdot, you
can
The FreeRunner uses a 500 Mhz CPU. The board design is rated to 400 Mhz.
So, if people check CPU processing specs they will see 500MHz.
Operationally, we limit it to 400 Mhz. For a varety of reasons.
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I listen to ideas and proposals I havent heard.
Steve
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Hello,
Just
As I explained a while back we had a few milestones to hit before beginning
mass production.
The First was DVT. Building phones and verifying the design. That's been
completed and so we have
Moved onto the next stage PVT. Verifying the design for Production. This
stage is always a bit annoying
number: xx and is located here: y could you please get it back
for me?
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Ya, I started down the API path with Michael Shiloh a while back, but we got
diverted by other things.
Hi matt,
Lets talk about your ideas, we need to highlight the new hardware we
added. Let me know what you are thinking
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Steve wrote:
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Subject: RE: Price of the Freerunner spare parts Yes,
The information about returns and defects etc needs to be shared. First,
however
Thx.
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Engineering says: you can't have both, 1A charging _and_ protection for
every
Ya this nailed it for me. thx Michael.
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Maybe I just create a spares product?
with 3 batteries, and some other goodies thrown in?
What goodies would go in that bag?
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I dont believe the replacements have the columb counter.
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) is that our device
checks the ID of the charger and then determines whether or not we can fast
charge. ( greater than 750ma I think... )
Steve
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Will,
On the web shop and the wiki I would like to see a list of suitable
replacements for the batteries ( nokia bl4,5,6 and clones) the charger,
the stylus, the headsets.
Steve
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ok, let me noodle on this a bit. I have some ideas.
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Am Do 27. März 2008 schrieb steve:
Hi Kevin,
Libertarian as well here. The first charger I want to test is my iGo as
well.
A while back I discussed the fast charging issue with Engineering. I'll
revisit that issue and get
than
500ma from a PC USB. Somebody not in marketing should answer that question.
Steve
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screens? do
I pass those costs on everyone?
Steve
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I think spare parts
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On Mon, 2008-03-24 at 16:00 -0700, steve wrote:
I thought about spare parts a while back. The Issue
in stock for all the
customers? If you sell a Lamp, do you hold 3 years of light bulbs as spares?
basically, this goes to the definition of spare part. Im curious how they
define it.
Steve
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the whole bag of parts; fix it your self.
or build a business around this service.
Let me think about it. Throw rotten fruit at this idea if you like.
Steve
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are proceeding with a series of
PVT builds to test the production worthiness of the design.
As those PVT runs get going, I'll update everyone on the results.
Steve
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. And there
will be a discount.
Steve
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ramsesoriginal
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Hi Ian,
Since I'm in California and the factory is in China, it's a little
difficult for me
/e5bcc84ba00ce053?lnk=stq=triangulate+group%3A*cellular*#e5bcc84ba00ce053
-Steve
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
Jeff Andros [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
OK, legal matters aside, your network operators ALWAYS know where your
phone is: cell towers can triangulate the position of your phone(it's like
reverse GPS
Thanks for letting us know so quickly. This definitely gives me
something to think about purchase wise. Please keep us informed as to
any future plans for alternate tri-band or quad-band hardware.
-Steve
Michael Shiloh wrote:
Unfortunately, this also affects the GTA02, which is now far too
ambiguity. Failure to retrieve either would just be ignored.
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a
little antsy regarding my future GTA02 purchase. Thanks for keeping us
up to date on this issue.
Does this mean future updates will also be made available, or is it a
matter of negotiating separately for each release?
-Steve
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Steve
I wonder why this update can't be done in the field. The only cellular
phones I can think of that had radio code which wasn't field updatable
were AMPS phones with the firmware in (OT/E)PROMs. Surely the radio
firmware in the Neo 1973 is stored in some sort
describes the classes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Packet_Radio_Service
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a better way.)
Notes:
It should be easy for a novice user to pick up the phone and turn data
usage completely on and off at will, at least for cellular.
-Steve
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Harald Welte wrote:
On 9/6/07, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It may be worth talking with ATI again. Since this announcement, I
[...]
As indicated previously, this agreement includes a statement that
OpenMoko will work on to-be-publicized documentation on the SMedia chip,
which
on the impression I get from this list.***
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Ashok Kumar wrote:
Can anyone tell me what are the changes between GTA1 and GTA2? Which
version is going to be shipped as user release in september?
It's on the wiki:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973:_GTA01Bv4_versus_GTA02_comparison
-Steve
Ian Stirling wrote:
Steve Seltzer wrote:
Ian Stirling wrote:
Ian Stirling wrote:
Using a copy of mplayer originally intended for the Zaurus, mentioned
by anrp on IRC.
I played back a random video - which happened to be
VIDEO: MPEG1 352x240 (aspect 1) 24.000 fps 1536.0 kbps (192.0
Ian Stirling wrote:
I would like to see a bare GTA01 board being available - even after
GTA02 becomes available.
There was some previous mention of available parts. I'd like to be able
to buy the plastic case. That way I would have the option of possibly
doing a little hardware hacking along
of the
other alternatives. Oh, and I want the phone. :) :)
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Shachar
Delays are likely.
If FIC is listening, I'm also waiting for the second gen hardware and
would like to see it ship as soon as it's ready. I don't care if the
software is pretty or even fully functional yet, as long as its upgradeable.
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are already filling up fast:
http://conferences.oreillynet.com/pub/w/58/bof.html
so someone fill it out soon if they would like to see one.
Steve
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the RF and
baseband/MAC functions in a 5mm x 5mm TFBGA package that supports the
SDIO/SPI host interfaces.
...
If someone doens't beat me too it, I add this info to the wiki
sometime latter today.
Steve
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on the ideas
page, so you are partially ahead of the game.
hth,
Steve
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it up, will post it
when I find it.
Steve
ps. Sorry to send directly to you(Sean), I'm not subscribed to the
community list and not sure if this would get through.
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They have been round for a while. Haven't used any but there are
commercial and OSS versions available now.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=linux+exchange+connector
Thanks
Steve
On 20/01/2007, at 5:55 PM, Todd Conley wrote:
I just started reading about openmoko today and am very
by
roaming charges etc. Now there is an idea, program the ability to
copy SIM card profiles so I can switch between SIMs with out
physically inserting it when I need it. Not sure how possible that
is, don't know enough about how the SIM cards work.
Keep up the good work.
Steve
Hi. First of all I want to repeat what many others on this list have
already said. I am very excited about the open moko project and the
opportunities it represents. I will be one of the first in line to buy an
openmoko phone when they are available.
I have a few questions. Thanks in
Wow, thanks for all the very quick responses. Sorry if I sounded a little
confrontational or if some of my questions were already answered in other
posts but, you know, you get a little skeptical and this project does
*almost* seem too good to be true (because it sounds that good).
Anyway,
Hey, now that I read the presentation I feel a little foolish posting a link
to ESR's essays :) Oh well. Once again, thanks and good luck.
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