Re: [Shr-User] SHR-unstable got a facelift. And you a christmas present....
R with upstream. This also means that we now > have updated versions of basically every software component in this > image. This migration has unfortunately caused quite some head aches and > build problems... > * mokonnect was finally able to connect to my WEP WLAN without > crashing the kernel :). > * We will be providing a possibilitiy to upgrade the kernel to > 2.6.31 (including KMS goodness, see > http://www.bitwiz.org.uk/s/how-dri-and-drm-work.html) for adventurous > users some time after this release. We just had to make a cut somewhere > and this did not make it in yet. > > What is NOT working: > > * Ringtones are not working yet after the first call (it just > vibrates). There is an issue related to the new fsodeviced and how it > handles alsa sound profiles. We are investigating this issue. > * 2s Power button press does not shutdown, as the delayed action > thingie seems broken. You'll just get the "shutdown" menu in any case ATM... > * "Hoversels" in python-elementary seem broken, so you can't switch > profiles from the shr-settings app. > * The time is off as the timezone remains set to "Europe/London". > * Number-to-Name resolution is currently broken in the SMS message list. > * ffalarms crashes when you add an alarm... So don't use your FR as > an alarm clock with this image. > > External packages, such as those from opkg.org might be broken due to > the updated components. We do invite external app programmers to submit > their applications for inclusion as a openembedded build recipe and have > them added to the SHR feed, so that apps are just a simple "opkg > install" away. > > Finally, although this snapshot has taken quite some time, I think we > should congratulate those people that have worked hard in their spare > time to put it all back together, first and foremost mrmoku, who has > been a great informal lead dev and tireless buildhost guardian. But also > TAsn, dos1, JaMa, Heinervdm, JesusMcCloud, mickeyl, pb (and many others > that I have forgotten now), as well as all those 3rd party application > authors of apps that make the openmoko interesting. > ___ > Shr-User mailing list > shr-u...@lists.shr-project.org > http://lists.shr-project.org/mailman/listinfo/shr-user > > - > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr 0x39494CCB 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tangogps 0.99.1
Great ! I just ran TangoGPS and noticed the new version in debian :) . You're quick ! Very good release ! congrats ! On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote: > On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:36:45 +0100, Marcus Bauer wrote >> Hi out there, >> >> the latest release of tangoGPS is out. New features include: >> >> * a revamped layout - better usage of screen estate on the >> Freerunner and much nice layout on netbooks and laptops >> >> * route tracks - you can now fetch route tracks from the web using >> three different webservices >> >> I have made a ARM EABI binary (only the binary, not a package). >> >> The full news with screenshots on http://www.tangogps.org/ > > Great! > > Already pushed to Debian: > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=557513 > > :) > > -- > Tiago Bortoletto Vaz > http://tiagovaz.org > 0xA504FECA - http://pgp.mit.edu > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr 0x39494CCB 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navigation
yeah ! great ! what is the map source used to route ? an osm file ? or do you use a binary-optimised one ? Anyway, so glad you did it in EFL :) On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Patryk Benderz wrote: > Dnia 2009-12-09, śro o godzinie 11:02 -0800, Mike Crash pisze: > > Hello everyone, I only want to inform you, that I am working on new > > navigation for the Freerunner, current name is MC Navi, but may change. > Great! Looks nice :) Right on time to todays CU release. Lets put it to > Community section until you release stable application. > > -- > Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz > Linux Registered User #377521 > () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail > /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments > > > Email secured by Check Point > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr 0x39494CCB 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Jefliks Jabber-Client release
w00t !!! really great ! many thx ! I will try it asap On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Richy wrote: > On opkg jefliks was just posted. > > afaik it is the fastest JabberClient out there. (And the only one I know > that is based on EFL) > > http://www.opkg.org/package_331.html > > Enjoy > 668c16bc69 > 668c16bc69 > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr 0x39494CCB 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Rolling dices on OpenMoko
EFL does 3D too :) On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 10:47 PM, Xavier Cremaschi wrote: > On 08/03/2010 19:43, Davide Scaini wrote: > > give a try asking to mokomaze developer... I think he should give you > > lots of answers... maybe :) > > d > > Thanks, very good idea indeed ! Mokomaze can be a perfect model, I will > read the source :) > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr 0x39494CCB 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Froyo (Android 2.2) on Freerunner????
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 12:48 AM, Leonty Belskiy wrote: > Is'n Froyo supposed to be super-fast? It's fast on a 1GHz processor with at least 512MB RAM and hardware acceleration of OpenGL, etc... V8 is embedded, but if you can't even run webkit... ;) > I it faster than Cupcake? It's relative to the device. If a device have capabilities to run froyo, so yes it will be faster. But froyo won't run on the most lightweigh devices. And android 3 will run on devices with at least 2Ghz processor, etc... > > -- > Leonty > > On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Thomas HOCEDEZ wrote: >> Le 01/09/2010 14:31, Atilla Filiz a écrit : >> >> AFAIK Serdar Dere is actively developing Android for FR, so I am sure the >> images are real. How (close to being)usable they are, that is to wonder. >> >> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 5:06 PM, David Garabana Barro >> wrote: >>> >>> On Thursday 05 August 2010 16:52:24 Jan Girlich wrote: >>> > Am Donnerstag, den 05.08.2010, 16:42 +0200 schrieb David Garabana Barro: >>> > > http://serdar-dere.net/~serdar/daily/ >>> > > >>> > > Are these images real? >>> > > >>> > > Are there Android 2.2 images for Freeruner? >>> > >>> > I doubt these images are of any use (yet). Look at the filesizes. >>> > They're just about 7MB, way too small for a real image. >>> >>> Yes, but first one size is 67 MB. >>> >>> On the thread Nelson posted minutes ago, you can see they are real, but >>> they >>> only compile and boot. Not useful by the moment >>> :) >>> >>> >> Hi ! >> >> Of course the images are real (those > 7Mo!). I flashed my FR with it, it >> boots, starts, and ... Worked ! Ok you have to be Really patient because of >> the slowlyness of the interface, but everything works ! >> -- >> >> Thomas HOCEDEZ / Asthro, Openmoko-fr.org >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> >> > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr 0x39494CCB 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 01:33:48 +, "andy selby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > unzip GTA01_dimensions.zip > Archive: GTA01_dimensions.zip ... > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > cat GTA01_dimensions/README.txt > This file was saved from Pro/Engineer Wildfire 3.0. > Open via gtc01-mme01.asm. > > Nothing that Blender recognises. I'd love to know what the > bluetooth-adhesive.prt.1 file contains. > Thanks a lot Michael, I'm sure they'd com in useful. > According to this page : http://5axes.free.fr/Format_Echange.htm#PROE There is nothing but ProE to open these files. Is ProE able to export in STEP (standard) format ? -- Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Status of resellers (Was: GTA02 preorder please?)
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:54:08 +0100, Rodolphe Ortalo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Joseph, > > as a matter of fact, where exactly in the south of France? > (The longitude should be okay for me too, but what about the > lattitude? :-) > > Rodolphe Here it is : http://informationfreeway.org/?lat=46.80035049849701&lon=3.7363181789030766&zoom=6&layers=B000F000F Look at 43.70 for example... > > Le mardi 22 janvier 2008 à 11:23 +, Joseph Reeves a écrit : >> Hi Gilles, >> >> I work for a UK based company with an office in the south of France. >> We plan to use the FreeRunner as a business tool are actively looking >> to become a reseller in the areas that we operate. >> >> Hopefully we'll be able to provide you with a phone at some point :) >> >> Thanks, Joseph >> >> >> >> On 22/01/2008, Gilles Casse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Hello Michael, >> > >> > So direct pre-orders to OpenMoko.com are unlikely but in fact, I guess >> > that some of us (in Europe for example) would prefer local resellers. >> > >> > Btw, what is the status of local resellers for France? >> > >> > Thank you >> > >> > Gilles >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > OpenMoko community mailing list >> > community@lists.openmoko.org >> > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> > >> >> ___ >> OpenMoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > ___ > OpenMoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
France : Taxes for video and mp3 playing capacity
Hi all, According to this (http://www.pcinpact.com/actu/news/41415-iphone-ipod-taxe-commission-dalbis-copie-pri.htm french speaking) France is about to taxe smartphone which provide 3 features : - At least 128mo internal memory (neo will have 256) - at least one touch/key dedicated to audio playing (what about a touchscreen ?) - mp3 or video playing Obviously, this taxe is made to be iphone compliant, so I think the neo is too... If this case is occuring everywhere else (other country), I think it could be a good idea to distribute OpenMoko without any mp3 player but with a prompt at first wifi connexion for example which ask if you want install the related ipkg packages...or in an intallation wizard menu (no I don't want to be taxed again for that ! ;) ) -- Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Brief Community Update, January 24, 2008
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 09:19:48 -0800, Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A brief update: > > 1. Evaluation of GTA02A5 is taking place. There is some excellent > discussion on the kernel list, e.g.: > > http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-January/000606.html > http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-January/000538.html > Really good news there ! Thx Michael > > Sincerely, > Michael > -- Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: France : Taxes for video and mp3 playing capacity
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:19:46 +0100, "Alexey Feldgendler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:07:23 +0100, Steven Le Roux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> France is about to taxe smartphone which provide 3 features : >> >> - At least 128mo internal memory (neo will have 256) >> - at least one touch/key dedicated to audio playing (what about a >> touchscreen ?) >> - mp3 or video playing > > Neo doesn't have keys dedicated to anything except turning it on and off. > A touch screen is a versatile controller with areas assigned to different > features at different times, with no part of it being dedicated to > anything in particular. So it cannot be said that Neo has a control > dedicated to audio playing. > They are discussing about conditions and taxe for less than these 3 cases (for example only mp3 playing hability) And the screentouch case is the same for iphone I think... and iphone is clearly taxed for them. > > -- > Alexey Feldgendler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [ICQ: 115226275] http://feldgendler.livejournal.com > > ___ > OpenMoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: France : Taxes for video and mp3 playing capacity
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 16:43:10 -0700, Richard Reichenbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No direspect or anything but that's probably the dumbest tax I've ever > heard of. > Probably France is the dumbest country right now about taxes and other stupid stuff... This is an other debate ) -- Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: France : Taxes for video and mp3 playing capacity
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 02:00:26 +0100, "Pietro \"m0nt0\" Montorfano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Schmidt András ha scritto: >> In Hungary there is tax on every _empty_ Compact Disc and DVD. The >> concept is that you will store warez mp3 on them. So when I archive my >> personal photos or software projects I pay tax for the recording >> companies. >> SA > Oh, in Italy there are no software patents but there is a stupid tax > like that in Hungary, a tax that you pay on each thing which has the > ability to store datas (empty CDs, HDDs,...), that's because you could > "potentially" store something like illegal MP3s, illegal videos and > pirated copy of anything, so that tax is made (if i can remember well) > to refound the damage that anyone is subject. > > Cya > > Pietro > Well, offcialy it's not a taxes for illegal ustilisation but for an exception for private copy. The joke is the major want to blow up this private copy, but still want to get money from the taxe. this, more the fact that I can't stand any american/french/whatever Idol and I don't want to pay for that. Maybe OpenMoko could be the only platform which could not bring out-of-box an audio/video player. It's not about money, I prefer to give the taxe amount directly to openmoko as a donation (paypal button is missing ;) )... -- Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: France : Taxes for video and mp3 playing capacity
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 10:16:37 +0100, Etienne Labaume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Selon Steven Le Roux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> > No direspect or anything but that's probably the dumbest tax I've ever >> > heard of. >> > >> Probably France is the dumbest country right now about taxes and other > stupid >> stuff... > > Yeah, almost every tax talked about in this thread exists in France. But > how do > we avoid the Neo to be taxable ? > As said, if you don't sell the phone with an embedded player, I think the neo become out of conditions to be taxed. At least, you can justify that you are buying a phone and nothing else. > -- > Etienne Labaume -- Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: France : Taxes for video and mp3 playing capacity
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 10:00:58 -0500, Colan Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I definitely don't think FIC (or now Openmoko) should include the cost > (if there is one) of the licence to play MP3s. I don't want to pay > that, and I don't think anyone else should either. I'm happy with just > Ogg and FLAC files. Maybe an MP3 library can be downloaded separately, > like the way most Linux distributions handle DVD playing. > > If you want to pay for MP3s, don't make me pay for it as well! ;) Yes I understand what you mean. But, to them, mp3 means audio... and I presume all audio playing habilities. It's not about a codec. We could think about reading only mid files and block all other files... just during the shipping and the user enable it easyly but the easier way is to provide any player on repository but not out of box. Before to know how to do it... Does it make sense for some other than me ? for the Openmoko team ? the marketing team ? > > And I really like that speeding ticket analogy. This tax that assumes > guilt is insane. I don't understand how modern democratic justice > systems can tolerate it. I repeat, this taxe doesn't exit as counterbalancing the illegal use of audio files. It's more like a compensation for private copy. (This is still incoherent because they are taxing a potential use, but not a real usage... I mean I could never hear their music... watch their movies etc...) > -c. > -- > Colan Schwartz > Internet Consultant | Openject Consulting | http://www.openject.com/ > -- Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tangoGPS, a new gps & mapping software for the Neo
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:06:06 +0100, "Lionel Dricot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for the quick reply :-) > > - Any other Open Source GPS application in the field ? > Navit ? (http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Main_Page) works on both, maemo and openmoko... -- Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: I dont know why I was supprised
On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 07:59:01 -0500, "Christopher Earl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > www.openmoko.com > > Today I noticed a change that OM has released their CAD files for the case > of the GTA01, This opens a major door to Case modding. I guess im used to > closed hardware and tight-liped companies, but i was supprised. I will > never again own a closed phone. > It has already been discussed with Mickael on this list. The new part of this, is the communication around. According to Michael, gta02 case is not yet published, therefore I guess there is some differences, but the question is : what is the usefulness with this publication if there is difference between gta01 case and gta02 case ? I mean, the wanted case for someone who want to make alternatives cases would be the gta02 one. Anyway, this publication, which in and of itslef is a great news for consumers, is a good way for openmoko.com, showing again to the whole market an alternative way of business. -- Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Interview with Michael Shiloh about OpenMoko
On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:41:56 -0800, Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I forgot to mention that the Southern California Linux Expo interviewed > me as a warm-up to the show this weekend: > > http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/blog/2008/02/03/interview-with-michael-shiloh-of-openmoko/ > > Feedback is always appreciated. > > Michael > Very good interviewed Michael ! I hope it will be relayed. The only thing I feel now is regrets... because of my actual lacks of skills to contribute on software developpement :) (not over ;)) Thx ! -- Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ***SPAM*** (was : Re: FAQ Interactive, Funny Images and VideosOnline)
On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 02:32:35 -0800, Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yup. I already brought it to the attention of our list superuser, who > will remove this spammer. > > Michael good, note that I just replied it to inform others to not read it, to save time ;) -- Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
***SPAM*** (was : Re: FAQ Interactive, Funny Images and Videos Online)
Just for the record... -- Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: VoIP+IAX Program Theory for OM
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:52:05 +0100, "Sébastien Lorquet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > Hi ! > > Moreover, at least in France, it's "forbidden" to use 3G data links to > transfer VoIP steams. Just because it would be cheaper than voice plans, I > guess :) > It's not really forbidden, it's not provided at all ;) > Sebastien -- Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Community update: Regarding Neo FreeRunner pre-orders
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:14:11 +0100, "Richard Bennett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:48:08 +0100, David Pottage > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> If FIC setup a web shop in a European country with a low sales tax rate >> such >> as Belgum, Europeans buying Freerunner phones could save around 10% >> compared >> with buying from a German web shop. > > Don't you mean Luxemburg? They have 15% tax I think, in Belgium it is 21%. > Luxembourg could be great :) or spain too... but please ! not in sueden or denmark :) (25% !) Anyone here who lives in Lux ? :) > > Richard. > > ___ > OpenMoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner delayed a further 6 months?!?!??
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:55:58 +0100, Tom Cooksey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A friend just forwarded this on to me: > > http://www.telecoms.com/itmgcontent/tcoms/news/articles/20017514053.html > > > Please, PLEASE tell me this is not true? Or at least it's the consumer > version that's > delayed? > > No matter the delay, I will waiting for... I'm waiting for 2years after this phone... It's not few month more which makes me get bored... and I have to say I have no phone for now... (it's my friends who are complaining, not me :)) Simple reflexion... do you want a phone now, with not finished drivers, which could not bring you garantie that hardware is ok ? I think If you want to pay an extra (for out selling circuit), you should be able to get a gta02, but don't come in one month if the v6 or v7 are solving a hardware pb which is annoying you... So here is about the Openmoko release to be delayed, but even if it's the Neo phone from FIC, I don't care, I will be waiting ;) (and I still will have to wait for the 4th operator in France, because 3 first are fiddling with price, they pay a fined but the kept the same prices...) > > Cheers, > > Tom > -- Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: next costumers location
I did one here : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 11:38 PM, Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What about a nice wiki page telling if you want to buy a neo where do you > live and an email to contact? This could be useful to take the advantage to > buy 10 neo at a time and then giving it to each one who was accorded. > Let me explain, i want a neo, i'm from italy, near milan, marco (usual > name here) live in milan and wants a neo too, (and so on for 10 people)... > So pietro, marco and each other put an order together to minimize the cost > of the neo, so everyone can get the neo at a smaller price. > > This is only an idea and a usual thing that i do with my friends when > buying something from US or other countries. > > If someone find this useful can set up such a page? i don't know how to > use a wiki (yes, i know, i should learn how to use it but now i don't want > to do that :D) > > Cya! > > Pietro > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: next costumers location
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:46 AM, Steven Le Roux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I did one here : > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales Maybe it would be better to use the "Local groups pages" ( http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Category:OpenMoko_Local_Groups ) to organize group sales... > <http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales> > > > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 11:38 PM, Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What about a nice wiki page telling if you want to buy a neo where do > > you live and an email to contact? This could be useful to take the advantage > > to buy 10 neo at a time and then giving it to each one who was accorded. > > Let me explain, i want a neo, i'm from italy, near milan, marco (usual > > name here) live in milan and wants a neo too, (and so on for 10 people)... > > So pietro, marco and each other put an order together to minimize the > > cost of the neo, so everyone can get the neo at a smaller price. > > > > This is only an idea and a usual thing that i do with my friends when > > buying something from US or other countries. > > > > If someone find this useful can set up such a page? i don't know how to > > use a wiki (yes, i know, i should learn how to use it but now i don't want > > to do that :D) > > > > Cya! > > > > Pietro > > > > _______ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > -- > Steven Le Roux > Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Group Sales (was : Re: next costumers location)
More explicit with the subject On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 8:08 PM, Alexander Frøyseth < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Have made a Group sale for Bodø, Nordland in Norway now. > We are two from here > > Alexander Frøyseth > > Steven Le Roux skrev: > > I did one here : > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales > > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 11:38 PM, Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What about a nice wiki page telling if you want to buy a neo where do > > you live and an email to contact? This could be useful to take the advantage > > to buy 10 neo at a time and then giving it to each one who was accorded. > > Let me explain, i want a neo, i'm from italy, near milan, marco (usual > > name here) live in milan and wants a neo too, (and so on for 10 people)... > > So pietro, marco and each other put an order together to minimize the > > cost of the neo, so everyone can get the neo at a smaller price. > > > > This is only an idea and a usual thing that i do with my friends when > > buying something from US or other countries. > > > > If someone find this useful can set up such a page? i don't know how to > > use a wiki (yes, i know, i should learn how to use it but now i don't want > > to do that :D) > > > > Cya! > > > > Pietro > > > > ___________ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > -- > Steven Le Roux > Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing [EMAIL > PROTECTED]://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
and no more stylus ? On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Erland Lewin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/4/13, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > The STANDARD box contents will be a Phone and Battery. I expect to add > some > > other goodies, but only for the first few thousand buyers. > > There won't be a charger in the standard box? And I thought there was > a custom charger allowing the Freerunner to charge at a high current? > > /Erland > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
Thank you Steve for precisions. One more question about the 10 pack... As you can see, we are organizing to get 10pack in order to drive down the shipping cost... but is this pack will contain the same accessories than a 1 neo pack ? (charger, stylus, other goodies...). I mean if there is only 30$ difference between both, (plus shipping cost) but less all goodies, I am not sure it's more interesting to get it inner 10 neo's pack... thx On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 1:13 AM, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There will be two products. Buy 1 OR buy 10. ( in 850 and 900 versions of > course) > > So, if you wanted 11 you would buy a 10 +1. and yes, this is a always an > issue in volume sales. > > > I suspect when people get 10 committed community members to agree, they > will > place the order. > Move fast. Get organized, get ready. > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Burdette > Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 9:03 AM > To: List for Openmoko community discussion > Subject: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update > > Great news that things are getting so finalized. > > I have a question about the '10-pack'. I'm thinking about getting > together > a group order for my local LUG. Suppose we have 11 people interested? Is > it more a 10-plus pack, or would that extra 1 phone have to be ordered at > full 399 price? > > > steve wrote: > > I thought I would combine a couple posts today. First an update on > > PVT, or production verification test. Phones are being sent to me from > > the first PVT run. Michael Shiloh will be back in Silicon valley next > > Tuesday, so he and I will test the samples and get them out to key > > partners. I want to check a couple things like using the Nokia > > batteries as spares and generic USB chargers before I send these samples > out. > > > > Now, for the update on Products, and Pricing, > > > > 1. Products. > > > > Orginally the FreeRunner ( GTA02) was planned to come out in two > packages. > > Basic and advanced, just like the Neo 1973. We killed that idea. It > > was a quick humane death. The problem was the GTA02 advanced unit > > would have been $650 USD. After seeing the response to Neo 1973, a > > huge response, we decided the best path was to lower the price, reward > > our early developers, and attract more developers. > > > > 2. Pricing > > We scrubbed the BOM ( bill of materials). We eliminated the Luxurious > bits. > > Optimized the box like it was code. The first thing we got rid of was > > the lunchbox. It was cool, but it was expensive and heavy. Eliminating > > that was a sizeable cost savings. ( think shipping weight). > > > > Next we pulled out the debug board and made it a separate product. We > > priced it at $99 US. about 1 tenth what people would pay for similar > > capability. > > > > My goal was to get to a place where we could sell the FreeRunner at > $399. > > USD. > > > > We did that. > > > > The FreeRunner will ship from Openmoko.com at $399. For early > > customers I'm looking at throwing in a few free things. More details > later. > > > > The debug board will be available as a separate product for $99 USD. > > > > Many people wrote me mails asking if they could get a discount by > > buying more than one phone. Sometimes they were universities, > > sometimes a small business, sometimes a small group or club. > > > > For these people we created a 10Pack. instead of 399 per phone, we > > will charge 369 per phone. > > > > > > Over the next few days I will explain the next steps we go through and > > how the product will get distributed > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
if it could work with Weston UM2 :) or any Shure ;)
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 8:49 AM, Erland Lewin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Regarding a headset, how easy will it be to get a third party (wired,
> non-bluetooth) headset with decent sound for the Freerunner?
>
> I believe there was some discussion on the kernel list about impedances,
> which made it sound like many standard headsets would not give good audio,
> because they have too low an impedance IIRC. I would hate to have a
> situation where I would have to buy and discard many simpler headsets to
> find one with a suitable impedance.
>
> I reiterate that I am all for OpenMoko bundling 'commodity' items, but the
> key thing is that standard items really do work well.
>
> By the way, I guess the big capacitor that was needed to get good bass
> audio output ('Can we fix the audio for A5/A6/A7?'
> <http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-April/002112.html>discussion
> on kernel list again) won't make it into the Freerunner mass production?
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Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
Not providing SD card could take off taxes about private copy or other bullshits like that from RIAA and friends... as I said in a previous mail. To me charger should be provided, with stylus, headset and pouch at least. On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Mikko Rauhala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On ma, 2008-04-14 at 13:29 +0200, "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" wrote: > > I agree, I'll buy one soon too, but what's the maximum capacity actually > > supported (I've seen the wiki, but there are no so much tests)? I'd like > > to buy an 8Gb Mini-SD card... > > I have a 8 GB one (Sandisk) in my Neo right now. Well, not mini. Micro. > Different things. > > The SDHC spec theoretically goes up to 2048 GB, however an arbitrary cap > of 32 GB has been (at least for now) set by the SD Card Association > according to Wikipedia. Go figure. Anyway, at least up to the 32 GB mark > new cards should work, let's see if they'll break the spec again at that > point to sell new devices... > > -- > Mikko Rauhala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > University of Helsinki > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: oredring the Freerunner as an research item
Pretty good idea even for other Country ! On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was wondering if it would be possible to mark the shipment as "research > items". Since it is developer editions and not an end user product, I think > it makes sence. Can anyone from Openmoko confirm this? > > Here in Norway, we can save some money if this is done. (This requires > Openmoko to send a paper to the Norwegian custom, informing that this is > research items) > > Best regards, > > Flemming Richter Mikkelsen > -- > Please don't send me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > > Join the FSF as an Associate Member at: > http://www.fsf.org/register_form?referrer=5774> > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Trading in €uros ?
No matter how is the $, I think FIC is thinking in $, not un €, so if the $ falls, it's good for us, and nothing change for FIC regardly the $ previsions... I guess On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The figure in USD is as innacurate as anything else. You're not > actually paying $399 USD, you're paying the number of New Taiwan > Dollars that can be exchanged for $399 USD. > > Rebasing the price in ANY currency means absolutely nothing since > (assuming you aren't paying exchange premiums) it's the same price. Of > course, they could say 399 Euros, in which case it would be getting > more expensive for EVERYONE. > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Didier Raboud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Didier Raboud wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Just wondering. With the actual fall of the U$D, why not setting the > Neo's > > > prices in €uros ? (Which is actually pretty strong.) (or ¥ens, ...) > > > > > > This would imply a rising price (with time) for American customers > instead > > > of a falling one for European ones. > > > > > > Actually, the actual situation is good for me if the U$D continues to > go > > > down : my future Neo will cost less to me. :) > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > OdyX, aka Didier Raboud > > > > Just to precise my thoughts... > > > > The idea is not to have a rise of the price for American customers, but > to > > protect the value of the future Neo against a fall of the U$D. If the > U$D > > continues to fall, the real income back to FIC will fall with time. FIC > > will then have to augment its prices which is not desirable... > > > > Well... I'm not that much in Finance, so don't give my thoughts too > much > > value. > > > > Regards, Didier > > > > > > > > > > ___________ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DHL has a package for me!
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Kyle Bassett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > awesome! > > why does it matter that you are or are not an american? > > -Kyle > He need to cut his beard well and to not wear a turban :) Steve don't let them any doubt ! ;) > > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:57 AM, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My samples arrived! > > > > I'm in customs hell. They want me to prove I am an american. So I have > > to > > send them a copy of > > My social security card or my taxes. > > > > > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > _______ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner Antennas and Partially Metal Cases
yeah and there is an UFL connector for wifi output ;) I will be able to plug my SD27 ;) doing VoIP over kilometers ;) On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Erland Lewin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/4/15, Matt Manjos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > Take a look at page 24 of this document: > > > > > > http://people.openmoko.org/tony_tu/GTA02/certificate/NCC/TE7O1104_R01_CNS13438_FIC_GTA02.pdf > > > Thanks, that was very interesting to see photos of a disassembled > Freerunner, details that are not on the Wiki yet... > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: PVT Update.
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 4:17 AM, Mark Arvidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, but will it blend? > Ahah :) for those who didn't get it... : http://www.willitblend.com/ > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buy the Neo fra Norway
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Edwin Lock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, people in Europa can buy from TRIsoft (maybe also 10-pack, it's best > to mail TRIsoft about this). > Next time please check the TRIsoft website, it tells you the price(350 > Euro + shipping). > www.trisoft.de/openmoko > > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Alexander Frøyseth < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hei > > I have heard that only people from Asia and US can buy from OpenMoko > > And that people fra Europe have to buy from trisoft. > > > > The problem here is that trisoft is selling it for 399€ > > > > I do NOT know if this is true or correct > > > > Is this true? > > > > > As said in another mail, maybe the solution to mark as "research item" during some month could be a good option to take off some taxes...? -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: HAPPY DANCE version .9
So it appears to be the destructive test ;) On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 6:41 PM, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dhl delivered goodies today. I gave one to my kids. One phone. Two > teenage > boys. > > Stress testing. They fighting over it. Ha. > > > > > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Colored cases, etc - Was Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
Hmm in this goal, why not Openmoko.com to sell "blank" case, non finished ones, witout any painting, just to be customized/adapted later ? I don't think only with painting, but integrate an eye cam or other expansion pack, or wifi external connectors for example... Even one water proof why not :) On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 6:02 PM, Steven ** < [EMAIL PROTECTED]<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > For the one off, you could check out http://www.emachineshop.com > They do injection molding of various plastics in "many" colors. > > I'm not sure if you could make a profit by having them make a ton of > cases and then reselling them or not. > > -Steven > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 5:22 AM, Hugo Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Maybe there's someone out there with the know-how to make blank > > cases based on the published OM designs? I'd guess it's a matter of > > making suitable injection-moulded components -- front and back -- and > > then either ringing the changes with the plastic colour used, or just > > selling white ones that can then be painted and lacquered. I have no > > idea of the economics of injection moulding, though. > > > >Hugo. > > _______ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: HAPPY DANCE version .9
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 8:40 PM, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First question was can I play WOW on it. > > Answer could be : yes ! code it :) > I slap my head so hard I have no wrinkles in my forehead anymore. > > better than Botox. > > -- > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Steven Le Roux > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 16, 2008 9:56 AM > *To:* List for Openmoko community discussion > *Subject:* Re: HAPPY DANCE version .9 > > So it appears to be the destructive test ;) > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 6:41 PM, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Dhl delivered goodies today. I gave one to my kids. One phone. Two > > teenage > > boys. > > > > Stress testing. They fighting over it. Ha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > -- > Steven Le Roux > Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: wiki help
hmm okay it's not as easy as we wanted to do :) here is an explanation : | width="25%" rowspan="4" | Sample country | width="25%" rowspan="3"| sample region #1 | width="25%" rowspan="2"| sample city | width="25%" | sample buyer #1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber_Id |- | width="25%" | sample buyer #2 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber_Id |- | width="25%" | sample city #2 | width="25%" | sample buyer #3 mail Jabber_Id |- | width="25%" | sample region #2 | width="25%" | sample city #3 | width="25%" | sample buyer #4 mail Jabber_Id In a way, if your country already exist, so just do +1 to the "rowspan" value in front of your country, and the same for your city if exists. If your country doens't exist on the page, so add this : |- | width="25%" rowspan="1" | YourCountry | width="25%" rowspan="1"| YourRegion | width="25%" rowspan="1"| YourCity | width="25%" | Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jabber_Id if you have one) |- where your country is alphabeticaly located. Or at the bottom and we will correct it... Note, it doesn't have to be two following " |- " If you want to add a region, so +1 to the country rowspan, and after the : |- | width="25%" rowspan="2" | YourCountry | width="25%" rowspan="1"| NOTYourRegion | width="25%" rowspan="1"| NOTYourCity | width="25%" | NOTShawn |- | width="25%" rowspan="1"| YourRegion | width="25%" rowspan="1"| YourCity | width="25%" | Shawn |- And it's almost the same with a same region but not the same city : |- | width="25%" rowspan="2" | YourCountry | width="25%" rowspan="2"| YourRegion | width="25%" rowspan="1"| NOTYourCity | width="25%" | NOTShawn |- | width="25%" rowspan="1"| YourCity | width="25%" | Shawn |- it has to be as much rowspan value than there is interested members by location. okay ? On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 1:23 AM, Shawn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey, does someone mind answering a wiki editing question for me (off list > that is)? > > It's about editing tables, specifically the group sales page. > > thanks, > > . . .Shawn > > -- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it > now.<http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51733/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ> > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: HAPPY DANCE version .9. Teenagers stop fighting!
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 3:37 AM, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I decided to do a test of sorts. I gave a phone to the boys and decided to > let them see if they could > Figure it out. I gave them 1 bit of info. Go buy a Pay as you go phone and > make sure it's GSM. Put > That Sim in the NEO. And I made them use their money. > next stage Steve : your wife's test ;) -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: wiki help
I've corrected it. it should have been : |- | width="25%" rowspan="4" | USA | width="25%" rowspan="1" | Colorado | width="25%" rowspan="1" | Denver Status: 1/10 | width="25%" rowspan="1" | Shawn Sullivan [[mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- | width="25%" rowspan="2" | Southern California | width="25%" rowspan="2" | Los Angeles Status: 2/10 | width="25%" | Ian Douglas [ http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Iandouglas Contact me here] |- ... I modified the status to 1/10 for Denver, do you really buy 7 items ? On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Shawn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I checked out the help on tables, and it didn't help. > > Here's what's there: > > |- > | width="25%" rowspan="3" | USA > | width="25%" rowspan="2" | Southern California > | width="25%" rowspan="2" | Los Angeles Status: 2/10 > | width="25%" | (name removed) > > Here's what i'm adding: > |- > | width="25%" rowspan="2" | Colorado > | width="25%" rowspan="2" | Denver Status: ~7/10 > | width="25%" rowspan="2" | Shawn Sullivan |mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > |- > > But the code is not putting a new row to whatever section is AFTER mine, > and it gets squished next to mine. ARGH > > > > - Original Message > From: Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: List for Openmoko community discussion > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 4:38:49 AM > Subject: Re: wiki help > > Thursday 17 April 2008 skrev Brenda Wang: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_edit_a_page > > The point is, really, that any page of this type (you know, one where > people > are supposed to sign up all quick and stuff) should not really require a > manual to edit ;) > > > geek wrote: > > > I struggled with that myself last night. > > > > > > goto the group sales table, click edit...look at Los Angeles and folow > > > pattern? > > > > > > It you have specific Q , hit me back... > > > > > > /matthew > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Shawn <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > > > > >Hey, does someone mind answering a wiki editing question for me > > >(off list that is)? > > > > > >It's about editing tables, specifically the group sales page. > > > > > >thanks, > > > > > >. . .Shawn > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try > it > > > now. > > > > > > < > http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51733/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62 > > >sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ> > > > > > >___ > > >Openmoko community mailing list > > >community@lists.openmoko.org <mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org> > > >http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > -- Sex, Drugs & Linux > > > > > > "How should I know if it works? That's what beta testers are for. I > > > only coded it." -- Linus Torvalds > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Openmoko community mailing list > > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > -- > ..Dan // Leinir.. > http://www.leinir.dk/ > > Co- > existence > or no > existence > > - Piet Hein > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > -- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it > now.<http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51733/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ> > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: wiki help
sure why not ! On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 7:27 AM, Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wednesday 16 April 2008 skrev Shawn: > > Hey, does someone mind answering a wiki editing question for me (off > list > > that is)? > > > > It's about editing tables, specifically the group sales page. > > > > thanks, > > > > . . .Shawn > > To be entirely honest, i am not sure who figured out that a list of this > sort would be good to make using wikimedia's table layout system, which is > widely known as the single most convoluted system out there (mixing html > and > wiki code? brilliant choice ;) ). > Surely, using a simple nested list would make better sense here? (if > people > accept this, i would like to volunteer to convert the table from its > current > state to a nested table with the same data) > > -- > ..Dan // Leinir.. > http://www.leinir.dk/ > > Co- >existence > or no >existence > > - Piet Hein > > ___________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Our new Main page of wiki
looks great to me... the contrast make sense to put visible some items, but colors depends a lot of the used screen to watch it... so maybe a lighter grey could be better ? I think the structure is more readable now, older is more...not ticky tacky but bric-a-brac I think... informations are not jumping on your eye :) On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Matt Manjos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree with the other few posters on this thread so far that the > colours have a bit too much contrast. Good design layout, but it is > somewhat difficult to read. > > Another thing: "Introduction for Openmoko" sounds a little awkward. It > already has the title on the page as "Openmoko Wiki" and it says > "Welcome to Openmoko", so there isn't really any confusion that the > "Introduction" is for Openmoko. > > Good Work, > > Matt > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 8:49 AM, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > The table colors have too little contrast, I think. It's readable, > > but I have to "force" myself to do so. > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 8:32 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Just a vote: I like the old one more. > > > > > > Am 17.04.2008 um 12:58 schrieb Ivo Anjo: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi. > > > > > > > > Personally, I liked the old one better, and the colors on this one > (mainly > > > the background color of the tables) are pretty agressive. > > > > > > > > Ivo > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Brenda Wang < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > Hi, all: > > > > Here is the new main page of our wiki. > > > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Test_main_page > > > > It will switch to Main page soon. > > > > Please feel free to give us your feedback . > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Brenda > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > Openmoko community mailing list > > > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > Openmoko community mailing list > > > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Openmoko community mailing list > > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: new main page of our wiki
here is mine : http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/73/20080417155544iy3.png and truely readable... try this tips : crash your win, install a debian/gentoo or any other real good OS... then try again :) On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Sebastian Hammerl < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i have blue links :( > > Andrea Debortoli schrieb: > > > > 2008/4/17, NeoSleg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > Can you really read this ? > > > > > > > > http://www.tsleg.com/upload/data/LGK2_newiki.PNG > > > > The blue links over grey background are not readable > > > to me links appear orange!!...they seem great!! > good job! > > Firefox 2 on Windows XP (I'm at work :( ) > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:26:08 +0200, "Flemming Richter Mikkelsen" > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On 4/17/08, rakshat hooja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> Please remove the black from the tables. its very tough to read the > > page > > > > >> with strong colours. Otherwise its nice. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > I do not agree. I really love the black background. It makes it easy > > to > > > > > read:) > > > > > -- > > > > > Please don't send me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See > > > > > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > > > > > > > > > > Join the FSF as an Associate Member at: > > > > > http://www.fsf.org/register_form?referrer=5774> > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > Openmoko community mailing list > > > > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > > > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > ___________ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > -- > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing [EMAIL > PROTECTED]://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: wiki help
less readable but very easier that way :) good job ;) On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Done :) > > Thursday 17 April 2008 skrev Steven Le Roux: > > sure why not ! > > > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 7:27 AM, Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > Wednesday 16 April 2008 skrev Shawn: > > > > Hey, does someone mind answering a wiki editing question for me (off > > > > > > list > > > > > > > that is)? > > > > > > > > It's about editing tables, specifically the group sales page. > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > > > > . . .Shawn > > > > > > To be entirely honest, i am not sure who figured out that a list of > > > this sort would be good to make using wikimedia's table layout system, > > > which is widely known as the single most convoluted system out there > > > (mixing html and > > > wiki code? brilliant choice ;) ). > > > Surely, using a simple nested list would make better sense here? (if > > > people > > > accept this, i would like to volunteer to convert the table from its > > > current > > > state to a nested table with the same data) > > > > > > -- > > > ..Dan // Leinir.. > > > http://www.leinir.dk/ > > > > > > Co- > > >existence > > > or no > > >existence > > > > > > - Piet Hein > > > > > > ___ > > > Openmoko community mailing list > > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > -- > ..Dan // Leinir.. > http://www.leinir.dk/ > > Co- >existence > or no >existence > > - Piet Hein > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Don't ship GTA02v5 without the rework
I totally agree with you. I understand everybody is happy to see the neo coming, but don't forget the goal :) : to provides the best free phones. It wouldn't be pleasant for us to by a phone, knowing there is a known issue with optimisation of power consumption and LED stuff.. I understand the rush ;) but we can wait... On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 2:26 AM, Ron K. Jeffries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OpenMoko team: > > It's crazy to consider shipping the GTA02v5 without the rework > to solve the current leakage issue. > > Yes, people are REALLY anxious to get this phone. But shipping > a few thousand of units that do not meet spec on standby time > is a Bad Idea. > > pull up your socks and do the rework > if that delays launch by 30 days so be it. > besides the firmware will be better by then as well. ;) > > -ron jeffries. > > CONTEXT: > -- Forwarded message -- > From: "Shawn Rutledge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "List for Openmoko community discussion" > > Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:30:59 -0700 > Subject: Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future > Button and LED software spec) > On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It sounds to me as the problem is easy for those of us that knows a > little > > electronics. If I get one that leaks current, I will start soldering! > > > > > > Does anybody know if the fix Werner is talking about, will be done for > all > > GTA02v5 PCB's? If it really will be a fix for it, it will not be any > problem > > at all. > > Yes maybe it can be fixed. But is the fix documented yet? > > Another way to look at it: if the fix can be done without a PCB > change, then why not get the factory to do the rework (swapping > transistors or whatever) before they are shipped? How much would it > cost to get that done in China? > > -- > Ron K. Jeffries > http://blog.eronj.com > http://twitter.com/RonKJeffries > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Don't ship GTA02v5 without the rework - reply
Thank you Tony for the update ! On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 3:25 PM, "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu) ha scritto: > > > This confusion comes from time latency of series of events, but no > > matter A5 or A6 should all apply the LED transistor change. > > > > I already update all the changes that shipping A5 will apply. > > > > > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware#GTA02_mass_roduction_version_change_list > > > > So, the only power-related issue fixed on A6 (and so not fixed on mass > production version) is: > > * GSM_modem power source Reduce power's ripple when the phone is talking > > I guess this is a minor issue, isn't it? Could we have more informations? > > Thanks anyway for your news and to the all Openmoko guys for their efforts > and for the comunication they keep with the community. > This is the power of an open company!!! > > BTW, I'm happy to know that I'll be able to drain my GTA02v5 flashlighting > my LEDs all the day :D > > -- > Treviño's World - Life and Linux > http://www.3v1n0.net/ > > > > _______ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Welcome to Openmoko GSoC
Really great news !! Congratulation ! Let's work on ! On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 12:41 AM, Daniel Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > I'm happy to announce the final Google Summer of Code slot allocation > for Openmoko. 10 projects will be funded this year which is quite an > improvement over the 3 we had in 2007. Lets make it rock. :-) > > So here are the projects that we will take on during this years Summer > of Code: > > OpenMoko Mail > Student: Vladimir Mihaylov > Mentor: Thomas Wood > > Flexible answering machine > Student: Frederik Sdun > Mentor: Thomas Wood > > IM/VoIP using telepathy > Student: Deniz Koçak > Mentor: Robert McQueen > > Accelerometer Gestures > Student: Paul-Valentin Borza > Mentor: Daniel Willmann > > Implementation of a OpenMoko remote controller for GNU/Linux > Student: Valério Domingos Valério > Mentor: Daniel Willmann > > speech recognition facility in open moko > Student: Saurabh Gupta > Mentor: Luis G. Lira > > A "targeted" SELinux Policy For OpenMoko > Student: Willis Vandevanter > Mentor: Stefan Schmidt > > SMS middleware > Student: Patryk Szymczak > Mentor: Michael Lauer > > odeviced: Open Device Daemon for FreeRunner/Neo1973 complying with > freesmartphone.org specs > Student: Sudharshan S > Mentor: Michael Lauer > > PIM storage for the mobile world > Student: Sören Apel > Mentor: m. dietrich > > Please make the students feel welcome in our community and help them > with any questions they have. > > If you applied this year but didn't get accepted don't despair. Openmoko > welcomes your contribution, whether made through GSoC or not and > through the "Community member of the month" contest you can even win a > t-shirt. It's all about the t-shirts. :-) > Finally, if there will be a Google Summer of Code next year we will try > to get accepted as mentoring organization again. > > All students are free to choose the way they want to handle the > development, if you have no strong preference we would recommend > creating a project at projects.openmoko.org. However, we do require > that every project has a website of some sorts with current status > information (this can be the projects.om.org Site, it could be a > special category in your blog, it might even be a plaintext file edited > in $EDITOR and synced to a webserver). Important is that there's some > place where interested people can go to and get an overview over your > project. General development discussion should take place on a public > mailing list, preferably [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > sign up for mailing lists at http://lists.openmoko.org/ > Also the IRC room #openmoko-gsoc on Freenode is available for mentors > and students to discuss their project. This room is of course open to > the general public. > > A good place to start looking for documentation is the Openmoko wiki at > http://wiki.openmoko.org/ > > An overview page with links to the individual projects pages will be > available at > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2008#Current_projects once > everything is set up. > > Regards, > Daniel Willmann > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QEMU slooooow
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Rune Gangstø <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've noticed the same thing. > I haven't tried it for a long time, so I can't say if it's just some other > options in QEMU. > If anyone knows anything, please share with us. > > 2008/4/22, Tomas Gustavsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > I totally agree with you. I have tried OpenMoko several times through > > QEMU but the waiting has been unreasonable long so the testing doesn't > > last very long... > > > > 2008/4/22, Eildert Groeneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > Hi List > > > > > > just wondering if everyone else is suffering from a veeey slow > > > operation in qemu openmoko. First it takes 10 minutes too boot and > > then > > > trying the applications like calendar or entering telephon numbers is > > so slow > > > that I never got past one entry. > > > > > > As I have not really seen any comments in this regards, maybe there > > are means > > > to speed this up. > > > > > > greetings > > > > > > Eildert > > > > > Yep same pb here... but I was trying on a dell x1 (ULV 1,1GHz so i was thinking mabe it was normal...) the last time I tried was 2 weeks ago. -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wiki distorted in Firefox 3?
On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 1:20 PM, MartinG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/5/08, Tomas Gustavsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm running Firefox 3 Beta 5 in Ubuntu 8.04 and the OpenMoko wiki menu > > (the one to the left) is placed a long way down (instead of at the > > top). Is this a Firefox bug or a css problem? > > Same goes for the Opera browser [1] - the menu comes after the rest of > the text, down to the right. I think it has been like this for a long > time, and for many versions of opera (9.x). I now use 9.50 Beta 2, and > the problem persists. > > I think the problem was there also when the wiki was bug free (see > validator.w3.org). > > best, > MartinG > > > [1] http://www.opera.com > hmm :) I use swiftfox in 3 series since month and I was believing it was normal :) Looking it with iceweasel 2* show me the menu on top effectively -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wiki is down
On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Steven ** < [EMAIL PROTECTED]<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > Myself and several others cannot reach the wiki. > http://www.openmoko.org gives a 404 error (it redirects to > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page which is Not Found) > http://wiki.openmoko.org redirects to > http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/index.cgi > > -Steven > Ok to me but CSS broken in mediawiki -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 4:04 PM, digger vermont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 11:01 +0200, Michele Renda wrote: > > shhh... don't get up the child :) > > > > Let them to work in peace, our baby is becoming bigger :) > > It'd be fun to see a picture of them on the assembly line. Kinda like > an ultrasound :) > > digger > I prefer to know them working on shipping stuff :) -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Europe Distribution
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Philippe Guillebert < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pietro "m0nt0" Montorfano wrote: > >> Rodolphe Ortalo ha scritto: >> >>> Bonjour! [...] >>> >> What about Europe distribution ;). Let's come back to the subject :) -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Europe Distribution
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Joachim Steiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steven Le Roux wrote: > > What about Europe distribution ;). Let's come back to the subject :) > > well.. i think that was already answered somewhere in the thread in > other words, but here my short version: > > afaik there will be 2 possibilities: > > - order at the openmoko us based webshop. > - pay in us$ > - pay the (to europe quite high but not unusual) higher shipping fee > - if not in the us: pay the VAT/sales tax of the target country on > recieving the package to the ups guy (usually in cash) > - use a CC (currently JCB, VISA, MASTER. _no_ AMEX afaik) > > - order at a local distributor > - pay the local currency > - pay for shipping if you do not pick it up yourself > - pay the regional tax/vat of your county directly with the device and > shipping > > so the bottomline is: us customers as well as worldwide can very easily > order directly at openmoko. but if you do not want to have the hassle of > transatlantic shipping, different currencies etc or want local > warranty, buy at a local distributor. > > i guess due to the shipping costs its cheaper and less hassle to order > single devices directly at a distributor. also these could have > different payment methods, but thats their decision. > > > kind regards > > -- > > Joachim Steiger > Openmoko Central Services > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > To resume, there are some dsitributors : France : Bearstech Germany : TRIsoft we don't already know conditions, and prices with Bearstech, but TRIsoft seems to be arrested to 350€ incl VAT (plus fee's shipment) -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner v. HTC v. ....
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Federico Lorenzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Al Johnson > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Comparing with the FreeRunner hardware wiki page: > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware > > > > Comms: Freerunner only has GSM/GPRS triband. > > Connectivity: WiFi equal, Freerunner has Bluetooth 2.1 with EDR > > CPU: same core and clock > > Camera: Freerunner doesn't have one > > Memory: Freerunner has double the RAM and double the ROM > > Memory card: Equal > > Screen: same size, Freerunner is 480x640 but has no keyboard. > > Weight: Similar? Freerunner 110g without battery, battery weight not > quoted. > > Size: Similar, but different shape. Freerunner is 120.7 x 62 x 18.5 mm > > Battery: Freerunner has 1200mAh > > > > USB host mode: only Freerunner. I don't know of another phone that has > this. > > GPS: only Freerunner > > > > media decode/3D: both have the hardware and neither do much with it yet. > > Openmoko have been open about exactly what the capabilities are, while > HTC > > were rather evasive when customers started questioning the media > performance. > > There are other phones that are better in this area. > You left out the ability to connect to a phone that has HSDPA / 3g (in > my case the Nokia E51) via Bluetooth or USB, and use it as a modem :) > > Cheers, > Federico > and we are talking about a "phone"... so the camera... is clearly NOT a priority for a first phone;.. fortunately there is no keyboard ;) ! or where's the point with the touchscreen... -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: silence (re mass production status) is deafening
Just read mails... Steve explained that there is a last preMP and the process by the manufacturer, test process etc... 2 days ago max... On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 6:08 AM, Steven Kurylo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 8:08 PM, Ron K. Jeffries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > (I am not complaining, just sayin'...) > > > > We're not hearing much about the status of production > > for Freerunner. From available bits of info, I deduce: > > Only a week ago there was a thread "Whats up with the freerunner mass > production?". I'd hardly call that a lack of communication. > > -- > Steven Kurylo > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: comparing Apples and Oranges $199 iPhone Freerunner GTA02
it's not 199$... cause it's a subsidized phone... try to get it without any operator contract... at 199$ ;) 2008/6/10 Rahul Joshi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 3G iPhone coverage: > http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/09/wwdc-2008-coverage-roundup-the-iphone-3g-has-landed/ > > Its a good phone. extended Office functionality is missing though. $199 is > just too good a price to beat. > > Rahul J > > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Richard Reichenbacher < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> It's 8GB not 4 and it's $199 with a 2yr contract. Regular retail prices >> have yet to be announced. >> >> >> >> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Ron K. Jeffries >> *Sent:* Monday, June 09, 2008 10:38 PM >> *To:* OpenMoko >> *Subject:* comparing Apples and Oranges $199 iPhone Freerunner GTA02 >> >> >> >> >> [I trust this will not initiate a flame war.] Please? >> >> iPhone v2 announced today. I'd like to understand >> on a hardware basis ONLY (I grok the value of >> free and open source) how does >> the entry level $199 iPhone with 4GB >> compare with Freerunner GTA02. >> >> where I get lost is how much RAM iPhone >> has vs Freerunner. I realize I can buy >> high capacity microSD flash card to match >> iPhone flash capacity >> >> are these assertions correct? >> >> Apple has: >> >> -- 3G data [much faster than Freeruner's GPRS] >> -- faster processor >> -- larger physical screen size (but about the same dpi?) >> -- 2 megapixel camera >> -- proximity sensor (knows when held to face, can dim screen) >> >> the two smart phones are aprox equal on >> -- wi-fi >> -- accelerometer >> -- bluetooth >> >> Ron K. Jeffries >> http://www.retaggr.com/Card/RonKJeffries >> >> >> ___________ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> >> > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Vote! Zimbra Mobile on the Openmoko
2008/6/23 Joseph Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Dear all, > > I'd like to bring this poll to your attention: > > > http://www.zimbra.com/forums/zimbrame-j2me-client/12642-vote-phones-zimbra-j2me-client.html > > For those that don't know, Zimbra is an awesome email/collaboration > suite, they're asking for people to vote on the next mobile platform > that their client will be released on. Zimbra on a FreeRunner would be > a Blackberry killer. I've put up a short blog post here: > > http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/20080623 > > Thanks, > voted :) thx for the link > > Joseph > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0x39494CCB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO Image gets it right
2008/6/24 Doron [Ofek BIZ] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Graeme Gregory wrote: > > > Well I have seen the future and the future is FSO. > > > Great work !! > > FSO is the future. > sure :) great demo > > - doron > > > For the first time I have been able to make and receive phone calls on a > > gta02 without hassle. GTK+ software could no do this, qtopia software > > cannot do this. > > > > And the best of it is, this was on my broken GTA02 where the gsm is > > about as reliable as a robin reliant (non UK people look up Only Fools > > and Horses). > > > > Things are looking good now we have solid gsm. > > > > Graeme > > > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > _______ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0x39494CCB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Community Initiative GTK
2008/6/27 Marcus Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Hello, > > I'm wondering if there is any interest in maintaining the GTK software > stack? > > Actually many companies have expressed their interest in a GTK based > platform as it is perceived as more future proof than some kind of > exotic software stack with a very small developer base. > > > Marcus > You will still be able to develop what you want with GTK if you want... but EFL are soo much beautiful ! (Hmm okay im an e17 user :) can one feel it ? ;)) EFL are optimized libs slower hardware, more powerful than gtk, wich is just a gui toolkit. EFL are so much more... -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0x39494CCB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
To clone a SIM via Freerunner ?
Hi all, I plan to clone a future SIM to have a "sports phone" to preserve my freerunner... But changing all the time from a unit to another will quickly get me bored... Is there a way to clone the SIM with the phone ? Or do I need a reader ? anyone has a good plan for "naked SIM" ? -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0x39494CCB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: To clone a SIM via Freerunner ?
2008/6/29 Joerg Reisenweber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Am So 29. Juni 2008 schrieb Steven Le Roux: > > Hi all, > > > > I plan to clone a future SIM to have a "sports phone" to preserve my > > freerunner... But changing all the time from a unit to another will > quickly > > get me bored... > > > > Is there a way to clone the SIM with the phone ? > No way, neither with phone nor with other means. You can't read out the > crypto. > You can ask your provider for a twin-card. That's exactly what you want. > /j > thx for reply so what to think about this kind of product : http://tinyurl.com/3k95tq ? fool's trap ? -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0x39494CCB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: To clone a SIM via Freerunner ?
2008/6/29 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > No, it's basicly working but only for those sim cards with old encryption. > But in practice nowdays operators use new encryption which is > unbreakable and getting your KI (needed for cloning) is impossible. > If yor sim is old it might be possible to clone. Look into sim cloning > forums specific for your country, they often can tell if the card is > clonable(operator, year, serial number etc.) > okay ! thx both... this market is really boring... all is closed... now not anymore the terminal :) it's a good start... > > On 6/29/08, Steven Le Roux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2008/6/29 Joerg Reisenweber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > >> Am So 29. Juni 2008 schrieb Steven Le Roux: > >> > Hi all, > >> > > >> > I plan to clone a future SIM to have a "sports phone" to preserve my > >> > freerunner... But changing all the time from a unit to another will > >> quickly > >> > get me bored... > >> > > >> > Is there a way to clone the SIM with the phone ? > >> No way, neither with phone nor with other means. You can't read out the > >> crypto. > >> You can ask your provider for a twin-card. That's exactly what you want. > >> /j > >> > > > > thx for reply > > > > so what to think about this kind of product : http://tinyurl.com/3k95tq? > > fool's trap ? > > > > > > > > -- > > Steven Le Roux > > Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 0x39494CCB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0x39494CCB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why enlightenment?
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Bram Neijt wrote: > I know this question must have come up once before, but I couldn't find > any real answer online, so I'm posting it here. Why enlightenment? > > I haven't seen enlightenment being used for over 4 years, huum ? I use it daily on desktop/laptop and at work for over 4 years. I have friends who use it like me... There are external project which use it too... for example : geekbox is switching to E, Calaos the domotic app, > and with the > wealth of programs out there which are portable portable doesn't mean usable. >and can run on top op > Linux, this choice really astounds me. I'm only writing this now, > because I see that the next Om release (2009) is going to keep focusing > on using it. > and it's a great thing !! > Most people will not find this discussion productive, but please > consider giving me some good pointers as I'm having a hard time to get > my head around this. > > As I see it, all embedded devices running some kind of interface use > either QT or GTK (QT Phone, Nokia Internet tablet, Sharp Zaurus..) and > there are various applications and standards available. > focusing on E doesn't mean you can't run any GTK or QT app. It's really like a pc, if you run gnome, can't you run marble or K3B ? If you run KDE4, can't you run firefox or OpenOffice ? The choice for a standard graphical librairy make sense for the OS, but the OS shouldn't forbid you to use any application you want. Obviously, the intergration is better when application are mainly coded with native libs, but, if we are making a choice between GTK or QT... the debate is the same.. my QT apps won't be integrated as well as GTK's ones on a GTK environment and vice versa. > Why then go for enlightenment? > cause it's great and fun ;) > Hoping this is not to inflammatory, > Bram > > > > _______ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr 0x39494CCB 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Testing] Enlightment SIGKILL'd
On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Philippe Lhardy wrote: > Hi, > > I try to install latest shr-testing image got at > http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/openmoko-shr-image-glibc-ipk--20090416-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz > i untar the content on a ext2 ( tested a ext3) too and boot with Qi on it, > this is on a usdcard on the 3rd partition ( 2nd is android that was booting > until i put noboot option ). > i put rootdelay=5 on /boot/append since it is on ucard > It just boot and start Xglamo but a white windows come up with enligthment > SIGKILL'd and i can retry many times it doesn't come up. > ssh & usbnet conenctivty is working and if i launch enlightment_strat by > hand it complains BUS_ERROR > > r...@om-gta02 ~ $ Xglamo& > r...@om-gta02 ~ $ (II) verbosity set to 5 > Using GLAMO 3362 card > (II) Screen: 16/16 depth/bpp > (II) vram size:4194304, onscreen vram size:614400, offscreen vram > size:3579904 > (II) initialising offscreen pixmaps > Extended Input Devices not yet supported. Impelement it at line 647 in > kinput.c > > r...@om-gta02 ~ $ > r...@om-gta02 ~ $ enlightenment_start > E - PID=2209, do_precache=0 > ESTART: 0.00041 [0.00041] - begin > ESTART: 0.01203 [0.01163] - signals done > ESTART: 0.02210 [0.01007] - determine prefix > e_prefix_determine() > DYNAMIC DETERMINED PREFIX: /usr > ESTART: 0.05705 [0.03495] - prefix done > ESTART: 0.06641 [0.00936] - eina init > ESTART: 0.11270 [0.04629] - intl init > ESTART: 0.12229 [0.00959] - parse args > ESTART: 0.13078 [0.00849] - arg parse done > ESTART: 0.13942 [0.00863] - ecore init > ESTART: 0.17632 [0.03690] - ecore_file init > ESTART: 0.18964 [0.01332] - more ecore > ESTART: 0.19760 [0.00796] - x connect > ESTART: 0.48743 [0.28983] - ecore_con > ESTART: 1.87269 [1.38526] - xinerama > E17 INIT: XINERAMA CHOSEN: [0], 480x640+0+0 > ESTART: 1.89923 [0.02654] - x hints > ESTART: 1.91815 [0.01892] - x hints done > ESTART: 1.92139 [0.00325] - ecore_evas init > ESTART: 1.94193 [0.02054] - test done > ESTART: 1.95010 [0.00817] - efreet > ESTART: 1.97073 [0.02063] - efreet done > ESTART: 1.97889 [0.00816] - configure > ESTART: 1.98905 [0.01016] - dirs > ESTART: 2.00344 [0.01439] - filereg > ESTART: 2.01261 [0.00916] - config > BUS ERROR try : cd /root && mv .e .e-old && enlightenment_start > > What did i miss ? Is that image correct ? > What is the correct image to have a working environment ? > Why does it mount root as ext4 ? ( with ext2 installation it complained > about circular references ) > > I am willing to help but in testing it seems there is no gdb what doesn't > help to debug things. > > Please appologize if i polute the mailling list with usless remarks. > > Regards > Philippe > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr 0x39494CCB 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2009] Couple of troubles
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 12:17 PM, ivanshirok...@gmail.com < ivanshirok...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello. Yesterday I've flashed new testing image of OM2009. Must say it > works pretty good. > ... > > 2) I've set alternative rendering method in illume (in advanced setup > options) and now it crashes on load. Can I fix it without reflashing FS? I experienced the same ;) I am a e17 user on my desktop so I know you can change your engine with : enlightenment_remote -engine-set where can be SOFTWARE or XRENDER. (maybe SAFTWARE16 too on FR... you can know it with -engine-list ) my pb is I don't have networking with om2009 yet :) s I can't set it up :) -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr 0x39494CCB 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Dash bought by RIM
So what is going to happen to project B :) On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Gerald A wrote: > Here's a bit of news from a one-time collaborator of Openmoko: > > > http://www.itworldcanada.com/a/Daily-News/647d02c5-15ce-4d87-9654-0b9a026771a9.html > > Dash bought by RIM > > > > I'm not sure if there is any communication between OM and Dash anymore, so > can't really > say if there is any impact to OM from this. I thought some community > members might be > interested though. > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr 0x39494CCB 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing release 5
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:21 AM, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Michal Brzozowski > wrote: > > > > I found two problems so far. > > > > 1. When waking up from suspend while in horizontal mode, there is garbage > on > > the screen and it's unusable. > > Can you take a photo to show it? > > > 2. It's impossible to scroll in paroli, it's too sensitive and you always > > end up pressing a button > > What screen? Settings might still have some issues but the other > should have it working pretty well.. > > > 3. Paroli doesn't support horizontal mode too well. > > That's be the third problem, you only promised two :) But yes, it's > true that when it's been designed, the horizontal mode has not been > kept in mind (actually I think ~no one has tested it before you..). So > possibly some work will be done there in the future.. > > > Other than that it's pretty stable, good job! > > I agree :) > > Hi all , Just flash to help testing :) I really love paroli ! Better each release appearing :) I found the same issue than Michal, not a real problem, but it's hard to scroll without clicking. not a big deal anyway... BTW, with testing release 4 you could return into illume by changing the profile, but now I change profile to illume without any effect... is it still possible ? How to access to apps ? congrats for the great work :) > r > > -- > | risto h. kurppa > | risto at kurppa dot fi > | http://risto.kurppa.fi > > _______ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr 0x39494CCB 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing release 5
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > > Hi all , > > > > Just flash to help testing :) > > > > I really love paroli ! Better each release appearing :) > > Awesome! > > > I found the same issue than Michal, not a real problem, but it's hard to > > scroll without clicking. > > Could you specify on what views (or all?) is this? for the "people" view, it's ok, scrolling nicely without clicking, but in the "settings" menu, I put my finger on item A, then scroll up/down, when I release it, the item A is automatically clicked. > > > > BTW, with testing release 4 you could return into illume by changing the > > profile, but now I change profile to illume without any effect... is it > > still possible ? > > > > How to access to apps ? > > INteresting.. It should be no problem to change to illume or > paroli-serenity theme.. I have no idea what's this about.. Accually it was a "first shot" problem, after reboot, no pb selecting paroli-serenity (which look great to me !) Maybe a button to put paroli in fullscreen mode would be more useful than changing the profile ? > > > > r > > > -- > | risto h. kurppa > | risto at kurppa dot fi > | http://risto.kurppa.fi > > _______ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr 0x39494CCB 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing release 5
Another feedback : After a while, receiving a call make paroli buging , the phone is vibrating endless. (infinite loop ?) I can't stop it, and have to put the battery off. It happens after a suspend. with any contact. It's just that I can say for the moment... sorry keeping the search... -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr 0x39494CCB 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing release 5
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Jose Luis Perez Diez wrote: > El Thursday, 18 de June de 2009 22:52:30 Steven Le Roux va escriure: > > Another feedback : After a while, receiving a call make paroli buging , > the > > phone is vibrating endless. (infinite loop ?) I can't stop it, and have > to > > put the battery off. > > > > It happens after a suspend. > > with any contact. > > > > It's just that I can say for the moment... sorry > > > > keeping the search... > > I did this same test this morning with the same results but I keept it > vibrating until I arrived at work to copy /var/log/* and the output of > logread to a pc. > > I stoped the buzz calling reboot from ssh ;( If you have ssh access you can stop it with : echo none > /sys/class/leds/neo1973:vibrator/trigger > > I will try to reproduce it with a plain testing release 5. > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr 0x39494CCB 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Pander wrote: > hotpots in the world: > http://maps.fon.com/ > this map is faked cause a node is added once you entered your coord in order to receive one router. No matter if you move between, or if you never plug it on... I agree to Raster... Even if there is few open hotspot, it's barely usable because it isn't noticed anywhere. here is a view in my city after a small wardrive : http://le-roux.info/temp/wardrive_brest.png results here : http://brest-wireless.net/wiki/wd more than 10 000 wifi access points. less than 1% opened, less than 0,4% opened by acknwoledgement You can use it only if there is a real wifi network band (like brest-sans-fil-x access in Brest city, only 40 APs for now) Look the freephonie map... freephonie is a free service provided by the the ISP free.fr in France. Every where you have a freephonie access point (the set top box freebox), you can phone freely and taxes free. It's usable, because you have freebox everywhere...nearly 30% of the whole probes we see... and compared to that... we have 2 fon access... versus... http://maps.fon.com?lt=48.39649929054651&ln=-4.488687515258789&zm=14 numbers speak themselves... > On Thu, December 18, 2008 10:51, john wrote: >> A similar situation in London. Apparently we have the most WiFi >> hotspots in comparison to other cities [1] but you will have to pay to >> use the majority of these as they are operated by telecos like BT. >> >> [1] >> http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/29/london-trounces-rest-of-world-in-quest-for-wifi-dominance/ >> >> I have a deal to use T-Mobile hotspots but never used them as I just >> leave my device connected via 3G. The only time I switch to WiFi >> outside my house is when I am at my local pub which has poor GSM >> signal and free WiFI. >> >> Having said that, the only application I tend to hammer the 3G on is >> Internet radio. I like to chillax to KCRW on my commute! >> >> John. >> >> 2008/12/18 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler : >> [snip] >>>> >>>> Improving to 3G is therefore a "nice to have" for me. Not mandatory. >>> >>> here is where i'd disagree. i can walk down my street in sydney - 100% >>> of wifi >>> spots are locked (wep/wpa etc.) - no one opens them. yopur choice is >>> "spotty" >>> wifi hotspots you have to pay for. the other option is 3g (umts/hsdpa >>> etc.) >>> which has pretty good coverage most areas in urban settings - even >>> outside. i >>> think there seems to be some assumption that wifi is so widespread in >>> urban >>> areas (and it comes at a cost equal to or cheaper than 3g datarates). >>> this is >>> not the case in australia. not to mention the datarates for 3g are MUCH >>> less >>> than 2g - they give you a discount for 3g data, but for 2g, it's rap you >>> silly >>> per kilobyte. why? the phone network's 2g data setup was NOT designed >>> for heavy >>> data usage - it's being abused for data and that impacts call quality >>> and the >>> providers will appropriately price the service based on the network >>> ability to >>> provide. so 3g is reasonable. for 2g i will never pay for it as its >>> outragoeus. >>> >>> -- >>> - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- >>> The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com >>> >>> >>> _______ >>> Openmoko community mailing list >>> community@lists.openmoko.org >>> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >>> >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr 0x39494CCB 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Seeling my Freerunner on Ebay
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > feydreva wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I just bought an another phone, so I am selling my Freeruner on ebay. >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=270326829135 >> >> Starting bid is 100$, no reserve, free shipping. >> >> Phone is like new, it always had a zack invisible shield for the full >> body and for the screen. >> Headset have never been used, and it comes with the pouch. (i lost the >> stylus long time ago). >> >> I can provide more picture and more info in request. >> At the moment, it is loaded with the 2008.12 version of software. >> >> Regards >> Philippe >> >> > You forgot to say whether this was the 850 or 900 model. > > From the fact that the phone is located in the US, I'm assuming it's > the 850 model. > > Shachar > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > If you run this 850MHz phone in EU, it should work on both 1800/1900 even if 850 can't reach any BTS, right ? -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr 0x39494CCB 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OpenStreetMap Breizh png snapshot from z8 to z17 for TangoGPS
Hi all, Here is a mirror for downloading preloaded png files in order to offline use TangoGPS. The files cover this area : http://openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.02&lon=-3.18&zoom=8&layers=B000FTF from zoom 8 to zoom 17. Each .tar corresponding to the zoom . The snapshot has been done late december. (don't be surprise by the lighttpd listing... it's breton speaking.. from brittany ) Have fun. -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr 0x39494CCB 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: IPv6 for minimo
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 9:28 PM, Ed Kapitein wrote: > Hi Sander, > > Your build is also not supporting ipv6. i narrowed it down to minimo not > resolving ipv6 addresses. > Using http://[2001:4860:0:1001::68] works. > Using http://ipv6.google.com does not work. > ping6 ipv6.google.com from the command line also works. > > PING ipv6.google.com (2001:4860:0:1001::68): 56 data bytes > 64 bytes from 2001:4860:0:1001::68: seq=0 ttl=60 time=422.222 ms > > Hope you can build minimo with ipv6 support. > > Kind regards, Hmm Google is not the best example here because if your ISP ipv6 connectivity hasn't been validated by google, you won't be able to resolv the name from ipv6 (only ipv4) All is described here : http://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/ (but it's not the pb here ;) because you can resolv with icmp request...) > Ed > > Sander van Grieken wrote: >>>> wget http://www.ginguppin.de/files/minimo.tar.bz2 >>>> >>> that would be mine :-) >>> it's built a long time ago and i don't really recall what options i used. >>> since i don't use opkg anymore, but debian, there's no chance it will ever >>> be updated -- i removed the oe stuff from my pc and use either debian >>> packages or build my own. >>> >>> you'd better look for dillo or midori, i don't even know if there's any >>> development still going on with minimo. >>> >> >> Hi, >> >> A week or so back I built a Minimo package for FSO and submitted it to >> opkg.org. I don't >> know if it has IPv6 support and it'll probably complain about dependency >> version numbers >> if you're on OM2008.x, but you could try to install it with -force-depends >> and see if it >> works. >> >> If it has no IPv6 support then let me know and I'll have a look at building >> a new package. >> >> Also be aware that Minimo has no bookmark management, which kinda sucks >> >> grtz, >> Sander >> >> >> >> _______ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> >> >> > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr 0x39494CCB 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner Chat Application: Suggestions wanted!
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak < seba.d...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 7/16/09, Alex Teiche wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > > > I recently recieved my A6 FreeRunner, and have been looking for some > coding > > to do:) I plan on writing a chat application(similar to Pidgin) > optomized > > for the small screen. I was wondering what suggestions the community had > > before I get too far into it. > > > > What UI elements do you recommend I keep out front/put back in menus to > save > > space? > > Which protocols have the highest demand for implementation? > > How should it deal with multiple concurrent chat sessions? > > How should the user be notified when a new chat message is recieved? > > Should logging be implemented? > > Any other ideas/suggestions? > > > > We all have our own opinions on these issues, so I just wanted a sense of > > what the greater community thought. > > > > ~xelapond > > > > Please use elementary and telepathy, with priority on Jabber/XMPP. > That's all of my requirements :) Same here :) > > > _______ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr 0x39494CCB 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: good bye google code
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:35 PM, mqy wrote: > > > you can't do the smalles things w/o having a google account -- not even > > contact authors of google code projects, let alone reporting bugs. > > I like google search, but google lives a bad life in my country. This is not due to Google... it's a china problem... Ask your government to not put many filtering equipments and routers, and latency will be better :) > I dislike the "feature" of google code: it increases SVN revision number > whenever you edit a wiki page! > > -- > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/good-bye-google-code-tp3277602p3277649.html > Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr 0x39494CCB 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is your GPS working today?
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > Hey guys! Hi > > > I have really small question. Is your GPS working now? Yes, these days, including today afternoon... On SHR, just launching TangoGPS, it works out of the box and TangoGPS rocks ! > And if not, > when it worked last time? Also if not - after trying to use it, check > if you have "rxerr" messages in dmesg, and report it here. > > Thanks, > > Sebastian Krzyszkowiak > dos > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr 0x39494CCB 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO core team founds BGB company
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Michael 'Mickey'
Lauer wrote:
> Braunschweig, Germany, 2009-07-29. For immediate release.
>
> The freesmartphone.org core-team founds a BGB company to facilitate
> the further development of free and open source middleware for
> Linux-based mobile systems: "Lauer, Lübbe, Schmidt, Willmann,
> freesmartphone.org GbR".
>
> The core-team members of the freesmartphone.org project today announced
> the founding of a legal entity offering consulting, training, and
> implementation services around the freesmartphone.org middleware
> platform, also known as FSO[1].
>
> "We now have a single point of contact for both commercial and
> non-commercial parties who want to use our services to create compelling
> solutions. This is of interest for groups or individuals creating new
> devices or freeing existing devices ("anti-vendor-ports") and who
> decided to incorporate the FSO middleware", says Dr. Michael Lauer,
> founder of the FSO project. "If you care about the further development
> of this platform or if you need guidance for tailoring or customizing
> the FSO middleware, contact us via E-Mail at
> coret...@freesmartphone.org".
>
> With todays' smartphones evolving into ubiquituous companions, a gap has
> emerged between widely used FOSS components like the Linux kernel and
> core system libraries on one side, and end-user applications on the
> other side. The lack of a complete free mobile software stack hinders
> innovation and leads to reinventing proprietary solutions for services
> middleware.
>
> FSO's mission is to close this gap by designing and developing solid
> middleware for mobile systems in an open fashion; this refers to not
> only publishing source code under open source licenses, but also to
> sharing the whole design and development process with the community and
> giving both commercial and non-commercial entities a way to co-drive and
> steer the process.
>
> Built on top of the Linux kernel, FSO implements high level services for
> mobile application development, accessible via the DBus interprocess
> communication standard. Leveraging the FSO APIs allows the developer to
> concentrate on solving application domain problems, such as business
> logic and presentation of data, without having to worry about the device
> specifics and low level details, such as how to access resources,
> telephony, location awareness, data storage, etc.
>
> About freesmartphone.org:
> Previously funded by Openmoko Inc, freesmartphone.org is a collaboration
> platform for open source and open discussion software projects working
> on interoperability and shared technology for Linux-based smartphones.
> freesmartphone.org operates on the services layer (middleware) and
> offers APIs and reference implementations that support modern
> interconnected mobile devices. To provide reference solutions,
> freesmartphone.org works closely together with various device-specific
> communities such as the Openmoko, OpenEZX, and HTC-Linux groups. The FSO
> team honours and bases on specifications and software created by the
> freedesktop.org community.
>
> [1] http://www.freesmartphone.org
>
>
This is great ! And I hope it will provide more visibility to FSO.
more visibility => more contribs => more testing => more stable =>
best FOSS GSM middleware :)
Since I love OS like om2009/Paroli, and even SHR (all EFL based
development actually) , I would love to see FSO to be rock solid to
help people to concentrate on Apps and tweaks :)
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Re: om2009/paroli status
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:42 AM, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: >> (I understand that Laszlo didn't get the support needed but got some >> of his code rejected -> lost interest.. ) > > I would like to add my 2 cents here;) > > I didnt stopped working on paroli at all, > just my attention was distracted by some hobby project > (home-made electric bike) and I was on vacation in the > last 2 weeks (hence the late reply). > > But I agree, what Mirko is doing, are the worst scenario of > every possible act, ie. stating he is working on paroli, but > his last real work on paroli was exactly two months ago on > June 3, with commit 6b47ad3a17814105e7107dcf7cc30dc4f3584387. > In addition to this he is not responding to emails, especially > which contains programing questions regarding to paroli. (I know, because > I shoot 10-15 emails already to him in these 2 months). > > I have read somewhere some years ago, how to best quit an > open source project, but I cant locate it anymore (nor on > the web nor in my computer). It addressed this very issue, how > to avoid this kind of frustrations. > > I would like to suggest to Qi company (Mirko's bosses;), to > allow (better word: force) Mirko to work on Paroli one hour > per week. To answer questions, and integrate others' works. > > There are many ongoing work, which needs to be integrated into > paroli. There are two branches by Dietrich, namely tacheles > and rebase. Where tacheles needs some very deep (tichy/paroli) > knowledge, to be able to integrate into paroli. > Other seems mostly cleanup. > We should really need some kind of communication platform, > because I for example never met with Dietrich, but I > really like his works (on pyneo.org, I based my gps program > on his "mappad" work. It was he or josch) > > So there are two more possible contributors: Dietrich and josch. > They need some attention, to not lost his interests in paroli. > > I for example have many more or less working programs, which > needs some help to properly integrate into paroli. (I have shoot > an email like 4 days ago to Mirko, but no answer;) > > These are: > - calculator app (already usable) > - gps app, and I would like to develop some predefined gui for > it: walking, running, biking, driving, paragliding > The basics works, I need edje (.edc file) gui for more advanced > things like zoom in, out and panning;) > - note taking app (almost working) > - calendar app (I have some gui sketches) > - some already done (or planned) gui improvements for paroli > - I have some gui ideas, where I need consensus > from Mirko and Angus, one of them is putting topbar at the > bottom. Because the bottom is not really finger usable, so > why waste the valuable space at the top (just under > illume's topbar). And it makes little sense to have two > topbars at the top. > > Mirko: If you want to step back from paroli for some time (months), > please, please integrate people's work before it, and > only leave after. > > There are many things, where we really need you. Im not able to > help Dietrich integrate his dbus based "multithreading" programs. > I (for example) need some tichy help. > > I think everybody got an idea about paroli status. > > Best regards, > Laszlo > So nobody here has any news from Mirko ? Neither QI-Hardware ? I really like Paroli and would love to see this effort congratulate for example by being integrated into SHR too... but if the maintainer remains w/o news... Laszlo what do you think about a fork to apply your patches ? a continue with welcomed contrib ? -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr 0x39494CCB 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: om2009/paroli status
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Mirko Lindner wrote: > Hi, > I am still alive and by no means agree that I am not doing anything. > I would agree that I am not coding right now. I am in active contact with the pyneo crew, met with them in Hamburg and talked with fgau of epydial how to get the apps into paroli. MDT of pyneo who has started 2 branches has taken over the part of doing maintenance on paroli's core (formerly tichy) and this is still the plan. > Adding features to paroli right now has been opted against as Angus and I > still hope to be able to release Om2009. This requires bug-fixing not new > features. > I am also collaborating with Mirko from OpenWrt to get paroli fully > supported on this platform as well. > > So nobody here has any news from Mirko ? Neither QI-Hardware ? > > Not on the mailinglists I admit, but I am online on irc regularly these > days. Certainly less than during OM times and maybe difficult to catch due > to changing nick names. Good to know :) > > I really like Paroli and would love to see this effort congratulate > for example by being integrated into SHR too... but if the maintainer > remains w/o news... Laszlo what do you think about a fork to apply > your patches ? a continue with welcomed contrib ? > > I think a fork would be the worst case scenario. And you're right ! It was the last possible scenario to adopt... >Laszlo also doesn't need to > fork, if adding new features is desperately needed how about a branch? > Certainly better than splitting the few resources that go into a project. > I take part of the blame as I am heavily involved with Qi Hardware at the > moment and also do like to socialize and enjoy the sun every now and again. > I see a future for paroli and am interested in and working for a revival of > a python based multi-purpose device UI. There is no pb being off for a while... but mails was looking like you're dead 2 month ago ;). So let's stabilize and what non-coding user can do more then adding tickets to the Trac ? > /mirko -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr 0x39494CCB 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Reading binary messages
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Bernd Prünster wrote: > KaZeR schrieb: >> Hello list. >> >> Has anyone succeeded / starting working on reading binary sms? >> >> I have some of them sitting in my inbox, under SHR it's only displayed as >> "This is a binary message" >> >> Thanks in advance! >> > isnt this text also displayed when getting an mms? > Yes I'm pretty sure this is the case. I got one receiving an mms. But maybe Kazer wanted to ask if there is work to display mms... (which are binary sms...) > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr 0x39494CCB 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: One Neo Freerunner for sale
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > 2009/8/26 Benny Källström : > > > > I am selling my Neo Freerunner A6, with the buzz fix applied by Golden > > Delicious Computers. > > > > It includes: 1 Neo Freerunner in Perfect Condition, only used it for two > > weeks. No scrats on the screen. 2 Li-ion original batteries, usb cable, > ac > > charger, OpenMoko Freerunner Pouch, memory card 4 gb microSD with > adapter, > > OpenMoko Headset. > > > > Packed in Original protective box. > > > > > > Price 140 € + shipping charges. I will ship WorldWide, in traceable > insured > > parcel. > > > > CHEAP! > > Let's see if someone from Finland will buy it to save some shipping costs. > > I hope you didn't get frustrated with the community as there're some > awesome things happening right now: > http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/great-news-from-the-openmoko-community/ > yes ! and the Illume 2 which will come in the next month will kick ass for sure :) > > > Cheers! > > > r > > -- > | risto h. kurppa > | risto at kurppa dot fi > | http://risto.kurppa.fi > > _______ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr 0x39494CCB 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: One Neo Freerunner for sale
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:05 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 11:47:36PM +0200, Steven Le Roux wrote: > > yes ! and the Illume 2 which will come in the next month will kick ass > for > > sure :) > > Got info on that? Can I haz illume2 kthnxbye!? too early for the moment I think :) News from here : http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/blog/ecn200934 You can compile from src/modules/illume2 > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr 0x39494CCB 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Illume2 (was One Neo Freerunner for sale)
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Marcel wrote: > Am Donnerstag, den 27.08.2009, 13:49 +0100 schrieb Rui Miguel Silva > Seabra: > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 01:47:22PM +0200, Lukas Märdian wrote: > > > Am 27.08.2009 10:18, schrieb Markus T?rnqvist: > > > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:07:53AM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > > > > > > > >>> Got info on that? Can I haz illume2 kthnxbye!? > > > >>> > > > >> Yes, screenshots, links, something. Didn't hear about this before.. > > > >> > > > > +1 please > > > A little research on Google gave me this results: > > > Enlightenment changeset from raster: > > > http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/changeset/41883 > > > and a small sentence about it on "Planet E": > > > http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/blog/ecn200934 > > > > I did that, but those aren't as nice as a nice little screenshot :) > > >From what I see there is not much that could be shot as "illume2" yet... normal, I also just tried, illume2 is kind of a fork from illume, with code cleaning and refactorization before going further. I see a little difference on my desktop btw, the illume2 module is less intrusive. > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr 0x39494CCB 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QNavitCtl - Navit Bookmarks via dbus
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Patryk Benderz wrote: > [cut] > > I like all the purposes you did it for - this makes Navit again a bit > > more usable > Oh, come on Risto, it is much more usable than tangoGPS for example. > Navit has a working routing engine which is vital. You're wrong comparing both solutions here. They are not intented to do the same job. TangoGPS is not a routing app and, in a lot of case, this is enough seeing where you are going to drive, without the need of routing. These soft are not in the same cathegory to me. > > -- > Kind Regards, Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz >Linux Registered User #377521 > () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail > /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments > > > Email secured by Check Point > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr 0x39494CCB 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Paroli misses tichy
It could be could to produce a SHR-U snapshot with paroli to try it out of the box and to quicky have a lot of tester. On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 12:01 AM, Laszlo KREKACS < laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com> wrote: > I miss paroli;) > > Looking at the paroli package, the tichy directory is not copied over. > > Do you know where can I find the .bb recipe for paroli and > paroli-calculator? > All the two needs fixing. Also would be nice to compare wiht om2009's > .bb recipe. > > Best regards, > Laszlo > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr 0x39494CCB 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Paroli Theme/UI proposals
It's just Brilliant !! I would love to use that ! But maybe it should be a different project than paroli because I think it more than a theme which is needed to approach your mockups On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:26 PM, Jon Kristian Nilsen wrote: > Long overdue, but here it comes:) > > As mentioned a couple of times on irc, I've been working on a few ideas > I've had regarding paroli. > What got me interested in this was the post to the ML some time ago: > http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-May/048133.html > > Now these are just mock-ups, but ihmo pretty god ones. I've spent quality > time thinking about user friendliness and what I'd like to see:) Ofcourse > I've probably missed > out a few bit's and pieces here and there, heck, I don't even know if it's > doable, but I will let others be the judge of that, since im not familiar > with the code. > > It's all explained in my post and under each picture, so I hope you guys > understand my thoughts even though English is my 2nd language:D > > Hope you guys like my work: > http://jonkristian.no/2009/08/paroli-ui-theme-proposals/ > > > Best regards > Jon Kristian Nilsen > -- > http://jonkristian.no > http://divineintervention.no > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr 0x39494CCB 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: application idea
moreover if it's raining... you risk to put all wet your neo and get it down :) (lack a windscreen wiper ? ;)) On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 17:30:18 -0400, Jimmy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > meteorology is a joke > > Federico Lorenzi wrote: >> On 9/13/07, Jimmy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Eh... why would you need to know the current weather if your already >>> there, looking at it? >>> >> You can look 5 days into the future too? Wow, i thought it was just me > :) >> >> ___ >> OpenMoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> > > > ___ > OpenMoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: opensource aerial photography project (was Re: OM Camera - a newangle)
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:33:56 +1200, "Robin Paulson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 19/09/2007, OJW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Tuesday 18 September 2007 19:12, Ian Stirling wrote: >> > It must have wi-max, and be able to fly up to several kilometers, to >> > take pictures for use with the OM mapping system. >> >> Need to integrate with these guys... >> >> http://diydrones.com/ >> >> [phone with GPS and camera being used to fly a model aircraft, and send >> georeferenced photos back over the network] > > interesting stuff > > this has got me thinking - openstreetmap is progressing as a nice > alternative to google maps and so on, but is there an open-source > equivalent for the photography part of google maps/earth? something > working in a similar way to osm, using photos taken by anybody, with a > UAV or any airborne vehicle, and licensed under GNU FDL? this sort of > technology is getting cheaper and cheaper, it's well within the price > range of common people now Yes there is, I beleive a friend shew me that in the osm editor (josm) I have to verify > > ___ > OpenMoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtopia coming for Neo1973
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 10:32:46 +0200, "Dani Anon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/25/07, Lorn Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> Carlo E. Prelz wrote: >> > Subject: Re: Qtopia coming for Neo1973 >> > Date: mar 25 set 07 08:18:31 +0200 >> > >> > Quoting Dani Anon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): >> > >> >> - But QT is not free (as in beer) for commercial usage >> > >> > This is not the only reason why Qtopia is sub-optimal. >> >> It's not a reason at all. Neo is a "free" phone! If I wanted commercial >> applications, I could easily use any other phone out there. The reason >> why we are all here, is because the Neo is 'free software'. Would the >> Neo interest you as much if it wasn't as 'free'? > > Tell that to all the people using Wine under Linux. I Don't think there are so much... I fully agree with him to say Neo/OpenMoko goal is to become a *FREE* user friendly phone. Even if Qtopia could give bigger range, or bigger "celebrity", it will not change the OpenMoko/OpenEmbedded mission, to provide a free framework/os > >> They haven't progressed that much in the last 6 years. Slower cpu uses >> less power. > > strongly agree with all these points. With mobile devices, direct > access to the hardware is everything because it might mean an extra > hour of battery. the main problem right now is I'm not sure about the > future of openmoko if they keep using X. When I learnt openmoko was > using an X server it surprised me a lot, its a very weird decision. > Most of Linux powered extramobile devices that I know of (please > correct me if I'm wrong) have some kind of framebuffer environment in > which you can directly draw stuff on screen with little overhead. > > Dani Ok, I am not a developper, but, I think the accelorometer has the goal to provide a good video rendering. If you see forward, the hardware will be improved, and I think there will be some "eyeglasses" effect or any "eye candy" things that won't not be possible with frame buffer... -- Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtopia coming for Neo1973
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:48:21 +0200, Gabriel Ambuehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 25 September 2007 14:23:24 Steven Le Roux wrote: > >> Ok, I am not a developper, but, I think the accelorometer has the goal > to >> provide a good video rendering. > > Nitpick: An accelerometer measures physical acceleration and enables > things > like the Wiimote. What you're thinking of is a (graphics) *accelerator*. oops, language bug :) As you said, I was talking about the SMedia 2D/3D accelerator :) -- Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Please welcome Graeme Gregory
Welcome Greg ;) On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 02:06:25 +0800, Sean Moss-Pultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Community, > > Today I'm extremely excited to announce our latest employee: Graeme > Gregory. He's going to be our OpenEmbedded and BitBake developer. (We're > really trying hard to add more depth to our team to support this huge > effort.) > > Graeme's primary task is maintaining the OpenMoko distribution in > OpenEmbedded, keeping classes and recipes up to date, ensuring that the > distribution is buildable at all times and managing distribution releases. > > He'll be around distro-devel@ more than the rest of us. Definitely feel > free to pick his brain if you need help. > > -Sean > > ___ > OpenMoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:56:26 +0800, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 06:52:59 +0100 "Pietro \"m0nt0\" Montorfano" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > >> Oh yeah, welcome Rasterman!! >> So e17 also on openmoko phone? :D >> Wow!! I'm sooo excited! > > Um Hi Guys! :) > *bounce* > Hi ! > E17 on phones - let's see. I'm really keen to see it be able to do that. > If it > means making a phone sexy - I'm all over it like stink on stinky tofu. :) Great news !!! I am e17 user for some years ago after DR16 user so I know you was specialized in embedded systems :) OpenMoko is a kind of a logical way for you :) great welcome and see you soon :) Steven (waiting for his Neo1973 GTA02 - EFL/OpenMoko :) ) -- Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Example of accelerometers utility
Here is a video which shows some applications for accelerometers in a current phone use: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWc-j4Xs5_w There is for example : - battery level - different tone for received msg (accelerometers make sense cause if you are in reunion/course/whatever, the phone shouldn't be moving, unlike if you are walking/moving, most of time any noise should be acceptable) ideas : There is already some different way to login, (gps coord) login/pwd..., why not a code based on accelerometers :) I mean for example, two at left, one at right, one bottom, one behind... It could be a 3D code... -- Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer
On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 21:18:06 +, Giles Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 2 Dec 2007, at 14:41, Christian Surlykke wrote: > >> Hello >> >> I'm interested in using the neo1973 as a bicycle-computer, utilizing >> it's gps abilities. >> >> Any comments/insights would be appreciated.. > > I have a Garmin Forerunner and the battery life is 10 hours. I'm not > sure the Neo could last that long? > > The software is possible, but I'm not sure anyone needs the screen on? You can still split the screen and use a small surface which reduces power consumption. > it's better to download the stats after a run, not keep looking at the > screen and risk an accident or just getting distracted. They say you > should look far ahead and not at your front wheel, that way you don't > get so tired :) > > I ride bike trials... so it could interest me, and the problem about not loking a wheel doesn't exist ;) > ___ > OpenMoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Press review : Openmoko among the linux 2007 inovations
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=940&num=1 Nothing more but thx to all of you guys -- Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Community update, Thursday, December 20 2007
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:42:53 -0700, "Richard Reichenbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As long as there's the Equifax security certificate it'll support our > network. It would also be a huge move for cell phone wifi as it would be > the only phone that works with our network. > > Richard > > And the whole "freephonie" network in France which is a wifi network for SIP phoning over PEAP autentication. This is a huge wifi nework which provide free national phoning through wifi from freebox set top boxes. Juste to give you an idea, here is an example of the network on one part of the Brest City (France). It's between 10 and 20% of all the SSID :) http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/1812/freephonie3cp5.png (picture obtained with kismet, gps, and pushing all coords in kml, oh and many many car driving time :)) It represents like 1,5 millions Access point over the country, and both phone provided by Free (the ISP) are quite bad, a wistron and a pirelli which are not opened, and anyway pieces of shit), so many people are interested by the PEAP feature ;) -- Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
