On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Pander <pan...@users.sourceforge.net> wrote: > hotpots in the world: > http://maps.fon.com/ > this map is faked cause a node is added once you entered your coord in order to receive one router.
No matter if you move between, or if you never plug it on... I agree to Raster... Even if there is few open hotspot, it's barely usable because it isn't noticed anywhere. here is a view in my city after a small wardrive : http://le-roux.info/temp/wardrive_brest.png results here : http://brest-wireless.net/wiki/wd more than 10 000 wifi access points. less than 1% opened, less than 0,4% opened by acknwoledgement You can use it only if there is a real wifi network band (like brest-sans-fil-x access in Brest city, only 40 APs for now) Look the freephonie map... freephonie is a free service provided by the the ISP free.fr in France. Every where you have a freephonie access point (the set top box freebox), you can phone freely and taxes free. It's usable, because you have freebox everywhere...nearly 30% of the whole probes we see... and compared to that... we have 2 fon access... versus... http://maps.fon.com?lt=48.39649929054651&ln=-4.488687515258789&zm=14 numbers speak themselves... > On Thu, December 18, 2008 10:51, john wrote: >> A similar situation in London. Apparently we have the most WiFi >> hotspots in comparison to other cities [1] but you will have to pay to >> use the majority of these as they are operated by telecos like BT. >> >> [1] >> http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/29/london-trounces-rest-of-world-in-quest-for-wifi-dominance/ >> >> I have a deal to use T-Mobile hotspots but never used them as I just >> leave my device connected via 3G. The only time I switch to WiFi >> outside my house is when I am at my local pub which has poor GSM >> signal and free WiFI. >> >> Having said that, the only application I tend to hammer the 3G on is >> Internet radio. I like to chillax to KCRW on my commute! >> >> John. >> >> 2008/12/18 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com>: >> [snip] >>>> >>>> Improving to 3G is therefore a "nice to have" for me. Not mandatory. >>> >>> here is where i'd disagree. i can walk down my street in sydney - 100% >>> of wifi >>> spots are locked (wep/wpa etc.) - no one opens them. yopur choice is >>> "spotty" >>> wifi hotspots you have to pay for. the other option is 3g (umts/hsdpa >>> etc.) >>> which has pretty good coverage most areas in urban settings - even >>> outside. i >>> think there seems to be some assumption that wifi is so widespread in >>> urban >>> areas (and it comes at a cost equal to or cheaper than 3g datarates). >>> this is >>> not the case in australia. not to mention the datarates for 3g are MUCH >>> less >>> than 2g - they give you a discount for 3g data, but for 2g, it's rap you >>> silly >>> per kilobyte. why? the phone network's 2g data setup was NOT designed >>> for heavy >>> data usage - it's being abused for data and that impacts call quality >>> and the >>> providers will appropriately price the service based on the network >>> ability to >>> provide. so 3g is reasonable. for 2g i will never pay for it as its >>> outragoeus. >>> >>> -- >>> ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- >>> The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Openmoko community mailing list >>> community@lists.openmoko.org >>> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr 0x39494CCB <ste...@le-roux.info> 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
