Re: Freerunner For Sale
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 1:59 AM, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Tim Schmidt wrote: >> I've got a nearly-never-used Freerunner I'd like to sell... > > To help people decide, please tell us which version is it, GTA02v5, > v6, v7, what fixes it has applied (buzz fix, #1024, ..?) Ah yes, knew I'd forgotten something. The sticker inside says the following: GSM 850/1800/1900 Date Code: 20080620 PN 56-21146-00 I'm not sure if that makes in an A5 or an A6. It has had no fixes applied - I've never had any problems with it. --tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Freerunner For Sale
I've got a nearly-never-used Freerunner I'd like to sell... It's fully functional, original battery, charger w/ adapters, box, Zagg invisible shield (which has been applied to the screen since day 1), and a tuxbrain.com leather case w/ stylus. I'll ship anywhere in the US. Here's a couple photos: http://imgur.com/spmtV&ns24Q&ZA861 Offers? Timothy Schmidt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MP3 patents (was: Freerunner's Future)
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Steve Mosher wrote: > I am somewhat constrained in what I am able to say. On one view there is > the position, > held by some, that any hardware that is merely CAPABLE of mp3 decode is > required > to apply for a license. So these dolts want a license fee for every turing complete computer above a few mips? --tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: LCD Displays?
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Al Johnson wrote: > On Thursday 21 May 2009, zogg wrote: >> Thats intresting. What could have stopped them from making it >> non-monochrome in daylight? > > Probably cost and efficiency as these were major factors in OLPC. If PixelQi > don't start producing screens that are colour in daylight then I guess there's > a technical reason as well. Based on the explanation below I would have > thought adding the coloured filters between the LCD and the reflective layer > would drop backlight efficiency only a little since the prism has already > split the light, but I'm no expert. The extra component requiring precision > placement would add cost though. That's a good idea actually, and might just work. (!) --tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: LCD Displays?
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 10:01 AM, zogg wrote: > Thats intresting. What could have stopped them from making it > non-monochrome in daylight? It's not possible, as light coming from the front of the LCD will have to pass through the prism in the wrong direction in order to be reflected back through the prism. The split light would then not line up with the pixel boundaries. --tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: LCD Displays?
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 9:12 AM, zogg wrote: > Looks like LCD for indoors are common, and for outdoors theres scarcity. > So, do you know any manufacturers, or at least in what direction should > i try and look at? The OLPC has an LCD which is very easy to read in daylight. When backlit, it appears as a color LCD, but when frontlit (as from the sun), it appears greyscale. This is a function of the OLPC's very efficient backlight system (instead of using colored filters to block out 66% of the light from the white backlight for each pixel, they use a fresnel prism to split the backlight into it's component wavelengths on pixel boundaries. Thereby allowing nearly 100% of the light produced by the backlight through to your eyes, as opposed to less than 33% for typical LCDs. Light from the front of the LCD passes through the pixels, and is reflected by a silvered layer, back through the pixels to your eyes, never passing through the prism, so what would normally be colored sub-pixels appear as greyscale pixels. --tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 2:43 PM, David Pottage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unless we want a closed source driver, I don't think that would work. > > Reading between the lines on the Tungsten Graphics website. it looks to me > that they have one core graphics driver, that they keep porting to whatever > chip they are asked to write a driver for, so in each case the core engine > stays the same and only the hardware specific stuff gets changed. > > If this is the case, I doubt they would be willing to produce a GPL driver, as > that would require them either to publish the source of their entire engine, > or to write a new one. They've done much of the open source graphics driver development for Intel. --tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 5:36 AM, Timo Jyrinki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, Wolfgang, hopefully you didn't miss Tim's post, sounds promising > :) As do the other offers of help. I'd just really like to get documentation out into the wild. I understand that performance is unlikely to ever be better than what we have currently. However, if the Haiku or ReactOS folks ever want to port to the GTA02, I'm sure they'd appreciate documentation so they don't have to burrow through our code (as much). If at some time in the future, a rare bug is encountered and OpenMoko is focused on GTA07, documentation might provide a crucial hint to interested developers tracking down the bug. You get the idea... It's just nice to have. --tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 5:11 AM, Wolfgang Spraul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Openmoko actually has learnt a lot from this. First we have learnt to > not trust high-level promises as much as before. > In fact I would go as far as saying that going forward, we will not > trust any promises about 'we will open this up later' anymore. > Either it's open and documented at the time we make the decision to > use those chips, or we look elsewhere. > I believe that's what our customers want. Agreed, and awesome. > We have a long way to go to come out with kick-ass open phone > hardware, but if our community doesn't loose faith and continues to do > development together with us, we'll get there. The momentum we have > built with the Freerunner is awesome. Please continue to buy > Freerunners and to develop for it, same is happening internally. The > next phones will build on top of the free platform we have built > together, the technology investment will carry over. *crosses fingers and hopes* > Having said that, if someone wants to seriously develop for the glamo, > please get in touch with me and we will find a legally correct way to > extend the smedia documentation to you. > In fact we have done that in a few cases before already, but I'm not > sure how much actual codes have come out of that. I think very > little ;-) > So we need some really serious coders that don't mind a tough challenge. I am not a skilled developer, but I would be more than happy to organize, and participate in a traditional clean room re-implementation of the documentation. As a GTA02 owner, as a founding member of the Open Graphics Project, as a Director of the Open Hardware Foundation, I believe I have the resources to accomplish such a task. I'd love to try. Can we make it happen? --tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: RESEND(Wrong Thread): IMAGE/MP3 licensing issue.
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 4:38 AM, Wolfgang Spraul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Let me link back to one of my Weekly Engineering News (back when they > were still weekly, ahem - I am working hard to get this good > discipline back!) > http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td837114 > > We looked at several options, OIN, patent-commons, peertopatent. > In the end we decided to collaborate with the Software Freedom Law > Center in New York. We believe this is most in line with the goals of > the Openmoko project, and will have the best long-term results. > I cannot speak about details yet, the SFLC and Sean are working on > this. I think next year, with regards to patents the results from that > will be one of the more important developments for Openmoko and maybe > even the larger Free Software scene. Excellent. I'd missed that. Thank you very much for pointing it out! :D --tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: RESEND(Wrong Thread): IMAGE/MP3 licensing issue.
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Chris Samuel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's why I said "as much as anyone can know these days". It just can't be repeated enough. Many people still don't understand cost - to the community as well as companies - of the ongoing situation of software patents. In fact... if OpenMoko could make as much information available as possible about how much this has cost them - in lost productivity, lawyers fees, etc. - I'm sure it would help to galvanize more action among the community. We all know software patents are bad, but few of us feel as though we are affected by them on a regular basis. Show people they _are_ affected, and I think they will respond. Who knows... maybe you'll even sell some more phones :) --tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: RESEND(Wrong Thread): IMAGE/MP3 licensing issue.
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Chris Samuel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd still rather a format that didn't risk (as much as anyone > can know these days) such lawsuits in the first place.. _All_ software risks such lawsuits. Software patents are so over-broad, vaguely worded, impenetrably incomprehensible to normal folk, and numerous that _no significant work is safe._ _Of course_ we should prefer the Ogg formats - especially with companies like Sisvel running around - but to believe they are unassailable by patent trolls, or somehow more safe than other software is delusional. A well stocked portfolio of patents is no thread to a troll - they sell no products vulnerable to injunctions. The only threat a patent troll understands is a well funded group of researchers and lawyers ready and willing to spend millions of dollars and years of effort to invalidate their prized patent. Fortunately, such things _do_ exist. I suggest OpenMoko search for, and solicit help from any they may find. --tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What will be in GTA03?
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Daniel Benoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think people will be willing to pay an extra $200 just to get a > camera in there. Please do some research before making baseless comments. Camera modules do not cost $200. More like $10. Less in quantity. See here: http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=8668 Further, their useful for far more than just taking photos. They make great barcode readers - even for 2D barcodes like UPS uses. GPS + camera = geotagged photos. Clever developers could even use one to supplement input from accelerometers. --tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008 WTF??
On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Jeff Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, I agree, but people that bought one without knowing the full extent are > going to be mad. It's essentially a > $400 mistakethe only real return policy stated is against the hardware > being > DOA and not buyer's regret. With that being the case I think you really > need to manage expectations of what's coming in the box. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caveat_emptor The fact that the phrase is Latin should be a clue to the age of the concept. If you fail to realize that the onus to fully research the product for which you are parting with your hard-earned dollars is on you, and you alone... You are at least 2,000 years behind the rest of us. --tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: cpu-speed limitations
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 6:05 AM, Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We didn't get to the end of meddling with the Glamo yet, but what we got > is what we got so far. The biggest handicap by far for that chip is we > can't share the documentation. Is there anyone we can contact, as community members, to attempt to get the documentation freed up? Anything we can do at all for that matter? Whether or not it's likely to succeed. --tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Tangogps pre-cache?
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 3:05 PM, arne anka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> /media/card/Maps/OSM/ > > with (my) 2007.2 that path does not point to the sd card. Hmmm... odd. It always has here. Anyway... you can substitute whatever directory your card is mounted in under /media for "card" in my path. So it becomes /media/[your_card's_dir/Maps/OSM --tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Tangogps pre-cache?
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 2:48 PM, Vinc Duran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Jeff, > I'd like to put the maps on the SD card. Is there a sensible path on > the SD card I should use? /media/card/Maps/OSM/ That's the path used in the scaredycat images. --tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 8:35 PM, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1. Give people a free repair kit? > 2. work with distributors to do repair. > 3. Host repair PARTIES! Woo hoo. Bring your own soldering iron. BYOSI Personally, a kit would work for me. I have fine pitch solder and a nice iron, but not enough SMT parts to have that cap on hand (or easily aquired). I suspect others might not be so lucky though. --tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alternative stylus - Group Buy
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 1:53 AM, Steven ** <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyone interested in a different group buy? > I want one of these: > http://www.jetmall.net/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=303 > I think it would go with my FreeRunner very well. It even has a > little strap that I could hook though the hole on the FreeRunner! > > But as you'll see, they want $9 to ship a $3 stylus. They apparently > only offer UPS for shipping and I can't find any other store that > sells this stylus. However, the shipping cost doesn't go up with > additional stylus (because they weigh nothing!). So, if anyone else > is interested in one, we could save on shipping by buying 10 of them > and re-shipping via USPS (which wouldn't need more than a 42 cent > stamp in the US). Anyone interested? If I can get 8 other people, it > would work out to $4.50 per person. I'm in. Paypal work for getting you the cash? --tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Reason for GPS problems found!
Awesome. At least we now know what's causing the problem. Is there a chance that changing the orientation of the internal antenna slightly (perhaps through very minor modifications to the inside of the plastic case) could rectify the issue? --tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: NVidia S-O-C
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Francesco Cat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ehm... I don't get what you meant to say... You said you thought they cared about Linux / Open Source. In the last 10 years, I haven't seen a single hint that they do. One possible (absurd) explanation is that we've been observing different Nvidias from different worlds or dimensions. Hence the question. --tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: NVidia S-O-C
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Francesco Cat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nvidia seems to care about Linux and OpenSource In what world have you been living for the last 10 years or so? --tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anyone using FR as a phone?
On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 9:28 PM, Joerg Reisenweber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Meanwhile we are about to improve the hw to cope with this (a little difficult > without exact idea of the way this happens). Meaning, the improvement will show up in a new rev of the Freerunner, or in the next model phone? --tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
