Latest SHR-?
I heard somewhere that there are some SHR-stable images on the way. Have they been released? If not, what image (lite) would you suggest I pick up for the time being that works best as an everyday phone (ie the most recent image)? Also, is there any specific kernel that has the logging disabled (like from the 'Significant speedups' thread) that work best with SHR? -Tonym ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
Not my primary phone, but I use it form time to time to surf the web/play games with Hackable:1 or QtMoko (only distros that connect to web). Not huge fan of SHR, because the interface does not lend itself well to a phone (can't even create+type+send an SMS in less than a minute, much less 15-20 seconds like every other phone ever). My daily phone is the same phone I've had for years, a Motorolla L2 bar phone. -Tonym Risto H. Kurppa wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Do you use FR as your primary PDA? What distribution you run most of the time? If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? Thank you :) r ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] GPS navigation apps for QtMoko
Yeah, NeronGPS is in the QtMoko feeds and all you need to install it is a recent version of QtMoko and an internet connection. It's native to the Qt framework that QtMoko uses and doesn't need an X server. It has a slightly different interface from Navit and tango, but it's pretty easy to get used to. -Tonym Brolin Empey wrote: Hello list, Are there any GPS navigation apps for QtMoko, i.e., any usable without an X server? I cannot use QX because every time I try, I end up having to remove the battery from my FreeRunner because my FreeRunner locks up and is unusable. I wanted to use Navit, but it requires a working X server. Alternately, is there any way to get a working (non-QX) X server on QtMoko, or use QtMoko with an X server (maybe on plain Debian)? Months ago, I asked for recommendations of MicroSDHC cards to buy to install plain Debian on. I still have not even found a place to buy any of the recommended cards because I have not made doing so a sufficiently high priority for it to ever be done. My parents gave me a Garmin nûvi GPS navigator (I do not remember which model, but I can find out if you want) as an early Christmas gift, so I at least have a working GPS navigation solution, but it would be better if I could use my FreeRunner as a GPS navigator. I never use cell phones while driving because doing so is a recipe for disaster for me: I always pull over and stop before using a cell phone. I am mentioning this because I wonder if it simplifies finding a GPS navigation app because I do not use cell phones while driving, so I do not have to answer nor make calls while the GPS navigation app is running. I still need to log missed calls and receive SMS messages, though. I also do not want messages about missed calls or received SMS messages blocking my view of the GPS navigation app on the screen while I am driving because I may not even be able to safely pull over to use my FreeRunner. I am using QtMoko v14, but will see if v15 looks like it is worth upgrading to. Thanks, Brolin -- Sometimes I forget how to do small talk: http://xkcd.com/222/ “If you have to ask why, you’re not a member of the intended audience.” — Bob Zimbinski, http://webpages.mr.net/bobz/ttyquake/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[H:1] New Keyboard! t9brain
Screenshots from rev4 [1] [2] I've made a new keyboard, built specifically for the Hackable:1 distro. I can supply the source if someone wants to build a package for SHR or QTMoko. Before that, though, it needs a severe face-lift, if anybody is willing to help me on that front. My specialty is basically everything but making it look pretty. A simple E-based design would be nice... To use it, you must execute the binary within the same directory as the words dictionary directory [3]. The source is here [4], but keep in mind that the current algorithm doesn't use nearly all of the files in the tarball. Most of the algorithm is in t9_list.cpp and numpad.cpp. If you have H:1 I encourage you to try it out and give me feedback. -Tony McKeehan [5] [1] https://projects.openmoko.org/docman/view.php/302/530/Screenshot-4.png [2] https://projects.openmoko.org/docman/view.php/302/531/Screenshot-2.png [3] https://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/932/t9_bins_dicts.tar.gz [4] https://projects.openmoko.org/project/showfiles.php?group_id=302release_id=589 [5] http://t9brain.projects.openmoko.org/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[H:1] New keyboard: t9brain
Sorry, didn't realize that the mailing list handled it like that... (resending) Screenshots from rev4 [1] [2] I've made a new keyboard, built specifically for the Hackable:1 distro. I can supply the source if someone wants to build a package for SHR or QTMoko. Before that, though, it needs a severe face-lift, if anybody is willing to help me on that front. My specialty is basically everything but making it look pretty. A simple E-based design would be nice... To use it, you must execute the binary within the same directory as the words dictionary directory [3]. The source is here [4], but keep in mind that the current algorithm doesn't use nearly all of the files in the tarball. Most of the algorithm is in t9_list.cpp and numpad.cpp. If you have H:1 I encourage you to try it out and give me feedback. -Tony McKeehan [5] [1] https://projects.openmoko.org/docman/view.php/302/530/Screenshot-4.png [2] https://projects.openmoko.org/docman/view.php/302/531/Screenshot-2.png [3] https://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/932/t9_bins_dicts.tar.gz [4] https://projects.openmoko.org/project/showfiles.php?group_id=302release_id=589 [5] http://t9brain.projects.openmoko.org/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [H:1] New keyboard: t9brain
I understand, I'll work on fixing it. The algorithm itself is unique and is really just another rendition of a predictive keyboard and could be built to support any other keyboard layout, if need be. -Tonym Atilla Filiz wrote: On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 7:47 PM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de mailto:openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: i strongly discourage the use of t9 in the name. I second this. It is a trademark, might get you into trouble. -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fun]Pipboy2009 first alpha prototype(v0.01)
He's using rev5rc1 of Hackable:1. It's based on 2007.2, but much more advanced. It's not an FSO-based distro, but the devs say that they'll convert it to FSO by the time rev6 comes out. -Tonym Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:58, Atilla Filiz atilla.fi...@gmail.com wrote: This prototype was developed with every DIYer's favourite disposable, duct tape. http://img410.yfrog.com/i/17112009m.jpg/ The setup needs further optimisation, as the tape is not strong enough to hold the device in place, and the device should be moved more to the back so it doesn't obstruct wrist movement. -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme Quite off topic... but WTF, are you really still using Om2007.2? O_o Well, I understand, it's *much* better than Om2008, but 2008 is also abandoned and I now really recommend some FSO based distro... ;) Well, at least you have really powerful watch ;D ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR] which to use?
I was thinking about try SHR again, but I don't know which image I should use. I heard somewhere that there was a mostly-stable image built in October, but I can't find it anywhere. I have the unstable from early September, but I thought that there was something more recent than that. Thanks, Tonym ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness
Would this only work with SHR/QtMoko, etc, or would this also work on Android? I guess my question is, can this be solved from the kernel, or is it done through the distribution itself? -Tonym Yogiz wrote: Anyway, I agree we should make QVGA work well, and I would use it for most apps. We should also keep in mind ways to allow use of the high res screen -- maybe picking certain apps (like browsers) that could switch to VGA automatically, and making sure the transition between resolutions is a smooth, fast, and automatic (where desired). Here's an idea I'm not sure I've heard before and I think it should be pointed out. When there was discussion whether to use VGA or move over to QVGA I was for the higher resolution, because viewing maps, terminal, pdfs and browsing at higher resolution was more important for me then speed. If however we could have everything at QVGA by default and change smoothly to VGA when required we could have all of the good and none of the bad. Sounds very good to me. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
HTC Hero source code?
HTC recently released the kernel source code to the Hero. Would this be of any use to use? Would it be possible to get the HTC Sense OS on the Freerunner? Or, worst case scenario, we could at least get some information on how HTC modified Android to learn from. http://developer.htc.com/ Let me know of you think of what we could do with this. I'm not advanced enough to make the first step, sorry. -Tonym ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: HTC Hero source code?
From what I can tell, there are a lot of drivers in the source. I ls'd the source and here's what I got. $ ls kernel_hero/drivers/ accessibility connector gpu macintosh nubus rtc thermal acpi cpufreq hid Makefile of s390 uio amba cpuidle hwmon mca oprofile sbus usb ata crypto i2c md parisc scsi video atm dca ide media parport serial virtio auxdisplay dio ieee1394 memstick pci sh w1 base dma infiniband message pcmcia sn watchdog block edac input mfd pnp spi xen bluetooth eisa isdn misc power ssb zorro cdrom firewire Kconfig mmc ps3 switch char firmware leds mtd rapidio tc clocksource gpio lguest net regulator telephony This what you're talking about? -Tonym Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 04:41:06PM -0400, Tony McKeehan wrote: HTC recently released the kernel source code to the Hero. Would this be of any use to use? Would it be possible to get the HTC Sense OS on the Freerunner? Or, worst case scenario, we could at least get some information on how HTC modified Android to learn from. http://developer.htc.com/ Let me know of you think of what we could do with this. I'm not advanced enough to make the first step, sorry. Are the drivers there, or is the release a sham? Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR status
I have personally had many troubles with SHR in the past. For one, I don't think the Contacts application has ever worked for my SIM card. It immediately crashes. It might be because it hasn't finished loading all of the contacts from SIM, but crashing is a poor way of handling this issue. Also, the lack of a true 'phone' UI seems to be missing the point (although Launcher does some to fix this). Another thing is that I don't enjoy the laggy graphics. Even by setting it to sw_16, it just looks tacky. Not a good decision to have to make. That being said, I find the custom Settings apps to be fantastic. The only thing that has never worked is the wifi connect stuff, and I think that it's a problem that everyone has. The illume themes are also very good on the eyes. I'm very impressed with the progress made so far. Overall, not for me. I tend to stick with QtMoko/H:1 for reliable phone service and stability. QtMoko's v14 is almost out of the 'getting it to work on the freerunner' stage and onto the 'lets make it a better OS overall' stage which shows the immense progress. H:1 is making huge advancements with their new rev5RC1. The only real issue with it is the lack of ringtone profiles and the wifi app is rather primitive (but you can load others, obviously). I think if you want to have a true 'reliable phone' you should head to one of the ones I just talked about. If you want to be a part of cutting edge phone development, with all of the quirks and caveats, then SHR is what you want. Now all we need is for Android-on-Freerunner to fix the glamo issue so it's not laggy and increase the sound quality of calls, and the Freerunner will be making its way to stardom. -Tonym W.Kenworthy wrote: On Sun, 2009-10-18 at 21:46 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 08:49:02PM +0200, Michal Brzozowski wrote: 2009/10/18 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org I'm using SHR Unstable as a daily phone. Has quirks, but IMHO SHR Testing should become what SHR Unstable is right now before the next sync. What date is your SHR-u from? I'm using one from August with some updates and I miss phone calls from time to time. Is there a new one that seems to have reliable telephony? Current SHR Unstable. All updates applied. And define reliable telephone... More or less reliable than current testing? :) Rui Define reliable telephony as - at least as good as the cheap ~$au100 phones available from your local carrier. Freerunner: much less :( Billk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Doom Updates in Progress -- Request from Distribution Maintainers
SHR is indeed the most-used. I think making a package for the upcoming H:1 rev5 would be cool, too. Also, I think the Om2009 maintainers all moved on to SHR anyways. -Tonym SCarlson wrote: Hello Everyone -- I've been off the radar for a while, decided to stop back in and noticed that Doom doesn't seem to run anymore in its old packaged version from last year. Just like to say, I'm on it. I've installed the SHR image from May 09, that is where i'm starting, as I believe thats the latest SHR-Testing. Are there other distributions that need attention? I'd like to hit majority users first.. I assume that is SHR and Om2009? (Are there people running Om2009?). I'd like to ask the Distribution maintainers,( those who are left? Just SHR now?) For some help putting Doom in the distro specific repos. That way everyone can opkg from a tested distro specific places and install. Its not necessary but would be nice. -Scott ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shrunstable] Midori question
I know there's one trick where you can tap the power button to turn the FR on, then press and hold the AUX button for the entire duration that's it's lit up red (this is you telling Qi that you want to skip that boot option) and it will move on to NAND. You can find more info at the wiki's Qi page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi#Choosing_a_Kernel -Tonym Jan Henkins wrote: Hello all, I'm using midori - 0.1.10-r2 on SHR unstable, which is a great experience overall. One of the biggest things I use my FR for is to read ebooks when I commute on the train using FBReader. Mostly I download ebooks on my PC and scp it across, because for some reason I cannot download files properly with Midori. This seems to be a general thing, but the site I normally frequent for my SciFi fix is the free library at: http://www.baen.com Earlier versions of Midori displayed the file instead of download it, but 0.1.10-r2 simply does nothing when I click on any link to download either .mobi or .zip files. Does other people also experience the same issue? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QI boot order
Sorry, this was meant to be in response to the Qi question -Tonym Tony McKeehan wrote: I know there's one trick where you can tap the power button to turn the FR on, then press and hold the AUX button for the entire duration that's it's lit up red (this is you telling Qi that you want to skip that boot option) and it will move on to NAND. You can find more info at the wiki's Qi page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi#Choosing_a_Kernel -Tonym ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Announcement: Cupcake release 0.1.1 for Freerunner
Don't forget to append the next Community Updates page. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2009-09-30 I'm very happy to see this project moving forward after much stagnation. -Tonym Niels Heyvaert wrote: Hi all, Things are moving ahead. The community has released v0.1.1 of the Android Cupcake for Freerunner fixing the suspend during a call issue. Check out Jim Ancona's announcement: This is a bug fix release containing the fix for Issue 3: Suspend during a call (http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/issues/detail?id=3). It may be downloaded from the site at http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/ Thanks to Michael Trimarchi for the fix! Feel free to give it a try. Niels. Google Code site: http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/ Git repository: http://gitorious.org/android-on-freerunner New mailing list: http://groups.google.com/group/android-on-freerunner _ Voeg vrienden toe van LinkedIn Facebook aan je Windows Live http://profile.live.com/connect ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Community Updates 16/09/2009
I've committed the newest set of Community Updates on the wiki http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2009-09-16 The next batch goes out on 30/09/2009 so if you have any updates by then, add them to this page before then http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2009-09-30 -Tonym ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Where can I buy miniUSB-m → USB-A-f adapte rs in Canada?
No, you need something like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812150048 and you can find them basically anywhere. I've accrued about 7+ over the years, from digital cameras, hubs, cell phones, etc, etc. Even the FR came with one. -Tonym Brolin Empey wrote: Hello list, A few days ago, I was chatting with DocScrutinizer in #openmoko on FreeNode about using a USB → Ethernet adapter to connect my FreeRunner directly to my Ethernet LAN. DocScrutinizer told me I need a miniUSB-m → USB-A-f adapter or a cable like this: http://www.conrad.de/goto.php?artikel=971535 Where can I buy such an adapter or cable in Canada? I live in the Lower Mainland of British Columbia, Canada. I already checked some local computer stores (NCIX, A-Power) and a distributor (ACP Marketing), but none appear to have what I need. I know there is at least one other list member who lives in the Lower Mainland, and there must be other Canadian members even if they live elsewhere in Canada. Thanks, Brolin -- Sometimes I forget how to do small talk: http://xkcd.com/222/ “If you have to ask why, you’re not a member of the intended audience.” — Bob Zimbinski, http://webpages.mr.net/bobz/ttyquake/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko - mass import of contacts?
vcards are the most common way of doing something like that and I'm pretty sure I've used vcards with QTmoko before. Build a vcard from your contacts source, send it to your Documents folder and play with it. -Tonym Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: Hello, Is there a way to do mass import of contacts in QtMoko? Say from a file or something? -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QTMoko] V8 doesn't receive SMS
I just installed V8 of the QT Moko and overall I am very happy with it. I've noticed that it is much faster than previous versions with QX installed. I do have a problem where SMS messages went unreceived. I should have received 3 SMS messages, but QT Moko failed to notice them (and it was connected to my phone network because I was able to make calls). Also, the volume is very low for phone calls even after updating the gsmhandset.state file to use values of 120. Does anyone else have either of these problems? -Tony ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Community Updates 02-09-09
Hello, everyone, I've sent out the release to the new community updates page and you can read it here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2009-09-02 Also, if you are aware of any updates/news by 16-09-09 you can notify the community by reflecting the changes on the following page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2009-09-16 -Tonym ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
