ASU as daily phone, someone ?
I am currently using Qtopia on Freerunner as my main/daily phone, but could someone tell me if ASU would be usable too ? What will I loose (in usability/functionality) with ASU ? This array seems to tell me gogogo switch to ASU! http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions Having GTK+ and GPS possibilities while loosing some speed seems rather acceptable... Xavier Cremaschi. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: dead battery
Sarton O'Brien a écrit : The 'leave it overnight' scenario is the best one I encounter for a dead battery ;) ... I think you'll be right. Sarton A good one is : - Hold down the aux key. - Put battery in. - Put usb in. - Hold down the power key. - Release aux key. - Wait for menu. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Om2008.9] Using Freerunner as a digital audio player
Hi folks, yesterday I tried to use qtopia-phone-x11-mediaplayer and some ogg/mp3 files to transform the FR into a digital audio player. I have encountered 3 software problems : 1. audio quality is bad (whereas it is good with Debian+Sonata/Mpd, so definitively not a hardware problem here) : is there a way to tune some parameters ? 2. external speakers still work after headphones being plugged : is there an alsa subtlety here ? (it switches automatically with Debian) 3. software relies upon tags, which I do not use at all. I have a precise filesystem scheme and no need of tag-based players trying to sort my music. Is there a way of telling the thing to stop trying to be smart ? I need a dumb soft here ;) qtopia-phone-x11-mediaplayer seems totally usable with fingers, and that's the big motivation for me to use it. Thanks in advance, Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] Using Freerunner as a digital audio player
Robin Paulson a écrit : 2008/10/13 Xavier Cremaschi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: how did you get it to recognise tags? i imported some songs, all with id3 tags. none of the tags were recognised, the songs are all listed by filename, with 'unknown artist' and 'unknown album' any ideas? In fact the files I used were not tagged, therefore I saw all my songs in 'unknown album' / 'unknown artist' and thought this soft relies upon tags. Maybe I would have had the same result with tagged files, who knows ? I will do some additional tests this evening to see if tags are recognized. Xavier. PS : were your files ogg, or mp3 with ID3v1 tags or ID3v2 tags ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Debian] How can I simulate right click ?
Hi folks, has someone found a way to simulate right click on Debian using stylus or finger ? Because some software relies upon the presence of a second button, and it would be great to have the possibility to use them. I would have like a 'long pressure == right click', but (with Xfce) I can see the mouse cursor moving while I put this long pressure on the screen. The touchscreen probably does not have 480x640 points of pressure, so maybe long pressure is not a solution here. Moreover double-clicking is difficult, because mouse cursor moves between the 2 clicks (for same reason)... I am interested in any method to improve this 'touch screen - mouse cursor' behavior. Thanks in advance for your advices, Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] Using Freerunner as a digital audio player
Dan Jensen a écrit : Surely a program which grabs the information from your well-designed file system schema would work for you here? The trick is, doing it in this manner (that is, with tags) makes sure you have processing power left over when browsing the music, as all the tags are cached in a high-performance database. It also gives you the advantage of being able to find tracks directly by artist or by album or by... you get the idea, i'm sure :) While your filesystem is optimal for a single path through the music, the method used in the qt mediaplayer makes sure that the information is accessible through a number of different paths. So... give tags a shot before you discard their usefulness ;) qtopia-phone-x11-mediaplayer seems totally usable with fingers, and that's the big motivation for me to use it. On a related topic, the media player designed by the Qt people is rather simplistic, and while it works quite well, the Amarok team is working on a new player based on the technologies in Amarok 2 - what that means is that you'll be able to do all sorts of interesting things... This is again all tags based stuff, so may well not be what you want, but as general information for other people ;) ..leinir I just want a single view named Folders (which would be a file explorer) instead of the existing Albums, Artists, Genre. I totally understand that a tag-based player could be interesting for some people, but I *know* where my files are in my collection. If I want to listen to Metallica's last album on my laptop (with Sonata/MPD), I just go into metal/Metallica/ and I add 'Death Magnetic' folder to my playlist. I don't need to search Genre:Thrash or Genre:Metal, nor Artist:Metallica because I know where this folder is. In fact, yes it is optimal for a single path to the music, and that's what I want. The tag-based approach is a good way to dig into a collection you are discovering. Maybe it's shared by a friend, maybe you don't know what you have on your disk... whatever, I know which CD I ripped and where I stored it on my disk, and collection size is not a limit of this non tag-based approach you can trust me ;) To make a debian analogy, I use debtags to find a package providing a functionality I want, but I do not use the tags when I *know* package's name. Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] How can I simulate right click ?
Thanks ! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Introducing http://www.opkg.org
I discover 4 useful applications just by browsing this website for 5min... kudos to you, this is awesome ! Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] Using Freerunner as a digital audio player
Matthias Camenzind a écrit : Convert the audio files before you copy them to the FR. The bad quality is caused of that pulseaudio and the openmoko-mediaplayer uses near to 100% cpu time. I converted some mp3 to mono 64kbps, they sound good.And cpu usage is around 60%. Here a little script: Mmmm that's strange because everything sounds good under Debian. But thanks for the hint, I will check my cpu usage. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.8_Guide#openmoko-mediaplayer2 Shows how to make openmoko-mediaplayer2 finger usable. Thanks! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] Using Freerunner as a digital audio player
Mmmm that's strange because everything sounds good under Debian. But thanks for the hint, I will check my cpu usage. You are right, after a bit of killing : - it sounds good with qtopia media player, and mediaserver eats 45% of CPU in top - it sounds good too with mplayer (frontend here http://www.opkg.org/package_1.html) and it eats only 30% of CPU Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] I need hints! please help
A bit of documentation here : http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/28 Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: console command history
papa-piet a écrit : Fox Mulder schrieb: I didn't try it with 2008.9 because i only use debian I did. shh into your Neo workerd for me, but scp didn't, it looked like a timeout. Greetings Same behavior here, with bash I can ssh, but not scp. Here is the end of a scp -vvv with sh : http://pastebin.com/m475828a Here is the end of a scp -vvv with bash : http://pastebin.com/m5164a60e With bash I cannot : scp localfile [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp nor scp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp/file localfile Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Tangogps pre-cache?
Does someone know how to use .osm files with tangoGPS ? Because lots of countries seem ready to be downloaded here : http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/ If it's not possible I think I will use osmtiles ;) http://www.millions.ca/~stacy/osmtiles.tgz Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Dillo: lightweight webbrowser v2.0
Thanks for sharing. Dillo is great and fast ! Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fennec on Openmoko
Do not forget dillo ;) http://www.dillo.org/ http://misc.andi.de1.cc/dillo/dillo_2.0-r0_armv4t.ipk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fennec on Openmoko
http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?pkgname=fennec Just to share, I don't know if it is usable 'as if'. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fennec on Openmoko
Thanks for your advices, it is far more usable now. Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved
Michael Zanetti a écrit : On Wednesday 15 October 2008 08:18:40 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Here you are [1]. It includes also the mwester fix for re-registering network and my workaround for GSM firmware crash. I hope it won't have any incompatibility with your installed Qtopia... [1] http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/libficgta01vendor-echo-cance llation.so.tar.gz Thanks for the lib. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to fix the echo issue here... Also the buzzing noise is still very loud... Any suggestions? For what I read in : http://n2.nabble.com/GSM-noise-%22buzz%22-issue-tc675090.html I think I can write 2 things : Firstly : there is a difference between : - echo cancellation (what we want) - echo suppression (no transmission when no one talks) Even if http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/libficgta01vendor-echo-cancellation.so.tar.gz ends with 'cancellation', are we sure we are talking about that ? Some older posts in this thread mentioned 'echo suppression'... Secondly : the buzzing noise is due to RF (radiofreq) parasites, and seems to be a hardware problem (related to the jack, because plugging a jack increases the noise a lot more). As long as we do not have a software fix (like for GPS/SDcard) or a hardware easy-to-do hack, maybe we should use a bluetooth earset because it seems to be a valid solution, cf. last messages in mentioned thread. Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.9] Forcing the charge rate on alternate chargers
Cameron Frazier a écrit : Hello all, Is it possible to force the charging rate to a particular (500/1000 mA)? I have a vehicle cigarette lighter - USB charging adaptor capable of 1A, but I'm pretty sure my FR only charges at 100 mA. I'd like to force it to charge at at least 500mA. I know there is some detection circuitry to detect the FR charger and then it charges at the 1A rate, but obviously my adaptor lacks the indicator. I remember seeing something on the wiki a while back, but I can't seem to find it now. Any suggestions? Cameron You can install : http://hdr.meetr.de/neo/openmoko/battery/battery_0.20080721_armv4t.ipk Screenshot here : http://hdr.meetr.de/neo/openmoko/battery/battery_05.png Two things in case of problem : If you see no icon on your desktop, just edit : /usr/share/applications/battery.desktop changing the line Categories=Application;System; to Categories=Application; If program cannot be launch because of a python error, check line 82 in : /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/_init_.py and replace the init call by : _init Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Touchscreen scratch protection
Alastair Johnson a écrit : http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield/openmoko-neo-freerunner-cases-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php I am currently using a full invisible shield protection Invisible Shield protects your device from scratches, and it does it very well, but you lose a bit in good-looking aspect (in my opinion) and in usability. About the body protection : as a geek I generally consider protection to be more important than look, but the FreeRunner looks far better without it (without:smooth and matte, with:adhesive and glossy/plastic). About the screen protection : very good protection too, but less slippery. A friend of mine bought an HTC recently and fingers slide well on default protection. That's not the case with the Invisible Shield, it is a bit harder to use. Having an object that pleases you is important too... maybe I will remove Invisible Shield soon. Neo1973 owners : how does your device look today ? Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Touchscreen scratch protection
Alastair Johnson a écrit : Interesting. Is it less slippery because it is sticky/rubbery, or because it is rough? How does it feel with a stylus? I don't know how to describe it in English... If you play minesweeper for example, you have to click without moving for 1 or 2 seconds to put a flag on a cell. As soon as your stylus touches your screen protected by the Invisible Shield, stylus' tip is fixed (and it works well). Without the protection, you have to take care to stay stable, because any small movement is going to make your cursor move. A friend of mine has a FreeRunner but he has not installed the Invisible Shield yet. Maybe I need to try his again. It may not be directly comparable but the Psion 5 had a finish very similar to that on the Freerunner. It was good for a while (~3 years for me) but eventually started to peel around the corners. The later 5mx had a paint finish instead. The Freerunner may do better as the corners aren't covered in the rubbery stuff. If it does start peeling like the Psion you will be able st scrape it off and have a black plastic finish instead. Thanks. I never protected my Nokia 9210 and (since 2000) it is still good (it has a resistant body), but the big screen is always protected as soon as device is closed, so it is hard to make a comparison. Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: problem sometimes getting network connection to FR
Workaround : suspend and resume Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] GPS pre-fetching maps from openstreetmap.org
http://www.millions.ca/~stacy/osmtiles.tgz + there is a readme inside Enjoy! Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: no icons in 2008.testing
While this problem is not solved, maybe you could downgrade to 'stable'. I have never done this, it is a bit rough, but you could try if you want : First put Om2008.8 in your /etc/opkg/*conf files (instead of testing) Then 'opkg update' to update your list of packages Then create the list of packages you want to downgrade : opkg list_installed | grep svnr36882 | cut -d ' ' -f 1 down.txt Then remove these packages : cat down.txt | while read r; do opkg -force-depends remove $r done Then reinstall them : cat down.txt | while read r; do opkg install $r done Now you should have downgraded everything. I don't think it's too hazardous, because it seems to be an X/Enlightenment problem, not a kernel/system one. Of course if someone thinks this will *not* work, please tell us why before someone tries. Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: no icons in 2008.testing
Ok it works, you just have to remove your ~/.e because it has been upgraded to svnr36882 version Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Battery charging : 1A from PC?
Hi folks, I have an external 2.5 hard disk drive which could be used without any external power supply. To achieve this, it was shipped with a 'Y' USB cable : - on one end it has a mini USB connector - on the other end it has 2 USB connectors So you have to use 2 USB plugs to power the disk. Does someone know if this kind of cable could be used to double-charge the FreeRunner ? Because naively I think that 2*500mA (maximum per plug) = 1A, but if the FreeRunner asks for 1A on 1 plug my laptop is dead... Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DOOM For Neo Freerunner / 1973
Great news about a great game on a cool device ;) But I have the same problem with Doom as with Duke Nukem 3D : it's horribly slow, much slower than youtube videos of these FR games. And so it is not playable at all. While running Doom, I have no sound and 'top' tells me my FR is almost idling. While running Duke Nukem, I have a crappy sound. And while using a media player to play some mp3 my CPU consumption is huge : only pythm frontend+mplayer backend seems light enough to allow me to listen music. Does someone have an idea of what my problem could be ? I did not see any particular error messages in stdout/stderr, nor in strace output. Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Battery charging : 1A from PC?
arne anka a écrit : -- but i am sure, trying to _charge_ with 500 is asking too much. Thanks for your answer. Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DOOM For Neo Freerunner / 1973
SCarlson a écrit : Xavier -- Can you give us some details about your current distro and anything other information that might be interesting? Ok here we go... Hardware : a FreeRunner with - GSM on and registered - Wifi off - GPS off - Bluetooth off - GPRS off - maximal brightness - a 8GB micro SD card Software Stack : - Om2008.8 almost up to date on main memory : I am trying to use/play on this one (see below for more details). Currently I have 50.1M of available space. - Debian on microSD Software Stack Details : [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /etc/om-version Tag Name: VERSION: 21895bf33f04f36292eec686438b55a514cb715d Branch: org.openmoko.asu.stable Build Host: barbie Time Stamp: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:25:15 +0800 Software Stack History : - it started as an Om2008.8 - I installed lots of software from various origin (opkg.org, ångström, some ipk found in this ML's threads), resolving some dependencies manually. - I upgraded to testing 2 weeks ago - I downgraded some packages from testing to 2008.8 because of the no icons bug, cf. http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-tc1393524|a1399864 About Doom : I installed http://opendoom.googlecode.com/files/opendoom_0.1.1_armv4t.ipk About its dependencies : [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg list_installed | egrep 'doom|libsdl|libsdl-mixer|libsdl-net' libsdl-1.2-0 - 1.2.11-r6.1 - libsdl-image-1.2-0 - 1.2.6-r1 - libsdl-mixer-1.2-0 - 1.2.6-r2 - libsdl-net-1.2-0 - 1.2.7-r0 - libsdl-ttf - 2.0.3-r1 - opendoom - 0.1.1 - Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Virtual music instrument using microphone and touchscreen
Hi Folks, I know being just a follower could be bad, but I liked these iPhone videos so I wanted to share : http://www.korben.info/un-ocarina-dans-votre-iphone.html A fun idea don't you think ? Xavier Cremaschi. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: no icons in 2008.testing
A recent update to testing showed this bug still occurs in my situation. So I just wanted to share a little update relative to downgrade commands from my previous mail : because opkg accepts more than one package's name as argument, we can speed up the whole thing by making far less calls. Instead of : cat down.txt | while read r; do opkg -force-depends remove $r done which is sequential, you can do : cat down.txt | xargs opkg -force-depends remove Instead of : cat down.txt | while read r; do opkg install $r done you can do : cat down.txt | xargs opkg install Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO][M4] DOOM Running slow.
I noticed the same, but the solution from another thread worked here - either execute or put into ~/.profile : # fix doom accelerators echo 10 /sys/devices/platform/lis302dl.1/threshold echo 10 /sys/devices/platform/lis302dl.2/threshold Stefan Great tip ! That's why my Doom was so slow ( http://n2.nabble.com/forum/Permalink.jtp?root=1444789post=1453633page=y ) Thanks, Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Need help to create a french illume keyboard
Hi all, I am currently looking at keyboards layout in /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards/ The syntax seems simple : key x y w h normal ' apostrophe shift quotedbl capslock ' apostrophe But I cannot find any doc/blog/thread/keyboard with composing features in it. I need to put few big keys (for fingers, not stylus). I also need to write in French or Spanish so I need to easily write any combination of aeiou (respectively AEIOU) and ´`^¨ (and also Ñ ñ Ç ç...) On my computers I usually use QWERTY keyboard with US International, which gives powerful composing possibilities to the user, see : http://www.cs.umu.se/~hegner/Misc/Windowskb/windows0x.png Therefore I would like to create this kind of key : key x y w h normal e e shiftE E diacritic1 é é diacritic2 è è diacritic3 ê ê shift+diacritic1 É É shift+diacritic2 È È shift+diacritic3 Ê Ê etc I would like : - to have 3 or 4 toggles that would modify the key layout and behaviour (like the weel-known shift key that e-E or E-e) - or to have one super shift key with multiple states, which would cycle between 4 or 5 states, for example normal_keyboard, ´_keyboard, `_keyboard, ^_keyboard Till now I have found shift and capslock, I would like to know how I can create new states and how I can combine them. If it is not possible, maybe I can put X in us international but : setxbmap us_intl can't work because setxkbmap does not seem to be packaged And the problem with this solution is the lack of graphical stuff, the user will have to KNOW that ' is a composing key and that he has to type ' + c to make a ç Thanks in advance for any kind of help. Xavier Cremaschi. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need help to create a french illume keyboard
that's determined by the .kbd virtual resolution (at the top of the .kbd file) :) Default.kbd ends up determining it (it retains aspect ratio and expands to fill the screen width - thus height scale accordingly). the kbd virtual resolution is mapped on the physical keyboard area, therefore I can use the unit scale I want (for example 10x10 key in a 100x20 virtual resolution == 1x1 key in a 10x2 resolution) But I would like to increase the height of the keyboard area, for example to take 50% (320px) of my screen. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need help to create a french illume keyboard
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) a écrit : the virtual res aspect ration determines the aspect ratio of the physical kbd - so make the virtual res taller and it will get taller. If I put 70x70 I should have a square keyboard, but I still have the same grey area -- in absolute coordinates the dictionary selector and keyboard selector didn't move -- and my first line keys is not visible and is probably under the application (which is above the keyboard and probably always on top). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
espeak, mbrola, utf8, navit : problem with french accentuated letters
Hi, I am trying to use espeak+mbrola and navit to obtain a french-speaking GPS. At the end I will need navit to produce french sentences (navit-locale-fr is not installed because I don't use 0.0.4-r1 but svn-1865), but for the moment espeak is the problem. But when I run espeak -v fr napoleon.txt (napoleon.txt being an UTF-8 Unicode text file containing the first paragraph of http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napol%C3%A9on_Ier#La_formation_militaire ) espeak tries to spell accentuated letters. For example for the word représentant I hear : repr-e accent aigu-sentant (repr-e with accent-sentant) If I do on my PC with Debian and espeak 1.37 espeak -v mb-fr1 -f napoleon.txt I can see things like : e 56 0 106 80 102 100 102 p 75 but on my FreeRunner with Om2008.12 and espeak 1.37 I see e 81 0 103 80 96 100 96 @ 87 0 96 80 92 100 92 _ 1 a 47 0 99 80 96 100 96 k 92 s 100 a~ 59 0 99 80 96 100 96 t 85 E 63 0 99 80 96 100 96 g 65 y 148 0 103 80 96 100 96 _ 1 p 75 this aksatEgy is the accent aigu in repr-e accent aigu-sentant napoleon.txt seems : - ok while doing 'cat' on it (using ssh in Konsole - kde virtual terminal) - '..' instead of accent in vi (using ssh in Konsole) - some accents ok, some not in vim (using ssh in Konsole) - no accents in openmoko-terminal2 What can I do to have a full utf8 environment able to support french language ? Xavier Cremaschi. PS : $echo $LANG fr_FR.UTF-8 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: espeak, mbrola, utf8, navit : problem with french accentuated, letters
Gilles Casse a écrit : The issue with French accent is the same than the one with the German character: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-December/038801.html Yes I noticed that ;) I am currently using an old OM distro and hackable:1 and can't help further sorry for installing the locales on OM 2008.12. In fact I cannot found any glibc-locale-fr package installable, so I did a copy of my /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive, following your example. Now it works As mentioned on http://espeak.sourceforge.net/mbrola.html $espeak -v mb-fr1 -f napoleon.txt | mbrola -e /usr/share/mbrola/fr1 - test.wav $mplayer test.wav works and it is not too bad. But I cannot pipe the output from mbrola through aplay. The pipe seems to lack of some headers : $espeak -v mb-fr1 -f napoleon.txt | mbrola -e /usr/share/mbrola/fr1 - test.wav $file test.wav test.wav: RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, Microsoft PCM, 16 bit, mono 16000 Hz $espeak -v mb-fr1 -f napoleon.txt | mbrola /usr/share/mbrola/fr1 - - | cat test.wav $file test.wav test.wav: data Size are also a bit different, the piped one is 44 bytes smaller. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: espeak, mbrola, utf8, navit : problem with french accentuated letters
Now I am trying to plug everything into speed-dispatcher...
I added in /etc/speech-dispatcher/speechd.conf
DefaultLanguage fr
AddModule mbrola sd_generic mbrola.conf
DefaultModule mbrola
and I created a mbrola.conf in /etc/speech-dispatcher/modules
It works (spd-say bonjour speaks!), but instead of a generic rule :
GenericExecuteSynth \
echo \$DATA\ \
| espeak -v mb-$VOICE $PUNCT -s $RATE -a $VOLUME \
| mbrola -v $VOLUME -e /usr/share/mbrola/$VOICE - -.au \
| $PLAY_COMMAND
I had to hardcode some variables :
GenericExecuteSynth \
echo \$DATA\ \
| espeak -v mb-fr1 \
| mbrola -e /usr/share/mbrola/fr1 - -.au \
| aplay
because /var/log/mbrola.log told me :
Fri Jan 2 11:34:19 2009 [765343]: child: synth command = |echo
bonjour | espeak -v mb-fr1 -s 160 -a 2.00 | mbrola -v $VOLUME -e
/usr/share/mbrola/$VOICE - -.au | $PLAY_COMMAND
|
In this line you can see that all variables have not been expanded.
Xavier.
PS : here is my mbrola.conf (with debug info enabled, cf. last line).
# Espeak mbrola output module is based on the generic plugin for Speech
# Dispatcher. It means there is no code written explicitly for
# this plugin, all the specifics are handled in this configuration
# and we call a simple command line client to perform the actual
# synthesis. Use this config file with the sd_generic output module.
#
# IMPORTANT: The audio output method relies on an audio playback
# utility (play, aplay, paplay for OSS, ALSA or Pulse)
# being installed. If this is not the case, consider installing it
# or replace the $PLAY_COMMAND string in the GenericExecuteString below
# with play, paplay or similar.
#
# GenericExecuteSynth is the shell command that should be
# executed in order to say some message. This command must
# stop saying the message on SIGKILL, otherwise it's useless.
# You can use the variables $LANGUAGE, $VOICE, $PITCH and $RATE
# which will be substituted for the appropriate value (you
# can modify this value, see other parameters).
# The command can be split into more lines, if necessary, using '\'.
#GenericExecuteSynth \
#echo \$DATA\ \
#| espeak -v mb-$VOICE $PUNCT -s $RATE -a $VOLUME \
#| mbrola -v $VOLUME -e /usr/share/mbrola/$VOICE - -.au \
#| $PLAY_COMMAND
GenericExecuteSynth \
echo \$DATA\ \
| espeak -v mb-fr1 \
| mbrola -e /usr/share/mbrola/fr1 - -.au \
| aplay
# The following three items control punctuation levels None, Some, and All.
# Each of these values will be substituted into the $PUNCT variable
depending
# on the value passed to speech dispatcher from applications.
# Note that if an empty string is specified, then $PUNCT will be blank
# which is a default situation for espeak.
GenericPunctNone
GenericPunctSome --punct=\()[]{};:\
GenericPunctAll --punct
# GenericStripPunctChars is a list (enclosed in doublequotes) of
# all the characters that should be replaced by whitespaces in
# order not to be badly handled by the output module or misinterpreted
# by shell.
# GenericStripPunctChars
# If the language you need to pass in $LANG is different
# from the standard ISO language code, you can specify
# which string to use instead. If you wish to use
# other than ISO charset for the specified language,
# you can add it's name (as accepted by iconv) as a
# third parameter in doublequotes.
GenericLanguage af af utf-8
GenericLanguage cs cs utf-8
GenericLanguage de de utf-8
GenericLanguage el el utf-8
GenericLanguage en en utf-8
GenericLanguage es es utf-8
GenericLanguage fr fr utf-8
GenericLanguage hr hr utf-8
GenericLanguage hu hu utf-8
GenericLanguage it it utf-8
GenericLanguage la la utf-8
GenericLanguage nl nl utf-8
GenericLanguage pl pl utf-8
GenericLanguage ro ro utf-8
GenericLanguage sv sv utf-8
GenericLanguage sw sw utf-8
GenericLanguage gr gr utf-8
GenericLanguage cr cr utf-8
GenericLanguage hu hu utf-8
GenericLanguage id id utf-8
# AddVoice specifies which $VOICE string should be assigned to
# each language and symbolic voice name. All the voices you want
# to use must be specified here. This list will likely not be
# up-to-date, please check eSpeak documentation and add the voices
# you want to use. Or better use the native espeak module ('espeak'
# not 'espeak-generic')
AddVoiceenMALE1 en1
AddVoiceenMALE2 us2
AddVoiceenMALE3 us3
AddVoiceenFEMALE1 us1
AddVoicedeMALE1 de4
AddVoicedeMALE2 de6
AddVoicedeFEMALE1 de5
AddVoicedeFEMALE2 de7
AddVoicefrMALE1 fr1
AddVoicefrFEMALE1 fr4
AddVoiceitMALE1 it3
AddVoiceitFEMALE1 it4
AddVoiceesMALE1 es1
AddVoiceesMALE2 es2
AddVoicesw
Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup
I don't get how the dictionnary (illume and qtopia) actually helps to write some word. To write forest with illume keyboard you just have to type : - near the f key - near the o key - near the r key - near the e key - near the s key - near the t key For each key you type, the illume keyboard makes the hypothesis that you probably type near the right key but not exactly on the right key, so with these 6 different positions (for forest) it searches in its dictionary all the possible words. That's why for and die come together. Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Report] - Buzz fix
The .pdf says this hardware fix transforms a GTA02v5 with buzz into a GTA02v7-equivalent (without buzz). But is the GTA02v7 currently produced and/or sold ? The wiki seems to stop at GTA02v6 (for which buzz is still a possibility). Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Paroli Base
Do we have to kill or remove qpe to use Paroli ? (any resources conflict maybe ?) Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
orrery, $LANG, numbers format : bad numbers make orrery crash.
Hi folks, here is my problem : #echo $LANG fr_FR.UTF-8 #orrery -d /usr/share/orrery/ Wrong number (1) of numbers found on line 1 of /usr/share/orrery//orbitalElements/mercuryElements Ok so let's check this file, assuming bad packaging is unlikely to happen... #cat /usr/share/orrery/orbitalElements/mercuryElements 0.38709927 0.20563593 7.00497902252.25032350 77.45779628 48.33076593 0.0037 0.1906 -0.00594749 149472.67411175 0.16047689 -0.12534081 0.38709843 0.20563661 7.00559432252.25166724 77.45771895 48.33961819 0. 0.2123 -0.00590158 149472.67486623 0.15940013 -0.12214182 0. 0. 0. 0. But '.' (point) is a decimal delimiter in english cultural settings. We french use ',' (comma) #LANG=C orrery -d /usr/share/orrery/ It works. Does someone have an idea to avoid the overriding of $LANG on the fly for this specific application ? A config file to tweak ? Best regards, Xavier Cremaschi. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Yaouh! out (update for tangogps maps)
Carlo Minucci a écrit : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh! i a simple interface for update the maps of tangogps it's optimized for low band usage Just a question : how can you check the remote file without dowloading it before ? Do you use etag [1] to do that ? Xavier. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_ETag ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Yaouh! out (update for tangogps maps)
do you know a better way? No it seems great, I just wanted to know ;) Xavier. (will try the application) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] fennec
Davide Scaini a écrit : Is there any fool who tried to build fennec for arm? ;-) it would be interesting... d My 2 cents : I failed at compiling it : http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.platforms.mobile/browse_thread/thread/f35f8eb244fd0523# but people from Angstrom seems clever than me : http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?pkgname=fennec http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?pkgname=fennec-dev Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Another possible keyboard
Hi all, I have tested the Nokia 5800 xpressmusic, and its small keyboard looks like this : http://www.slashgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/all-about-symbian-review_-nokia-5800-xpressmusic-preview-part-1-1.jpg It is quite usable with finger (not nail, not thumb, but the index finger), I made very few typo with it (I was not moving) : - the system seems to detect the pressure point quite well - no predictive keyboard behind - 360x640 pixels, so not wider than FR. Another thing which is quite comfortable : the haptic feedback. When you click on something, the phone vibrate, but it doesn't feel like a vibration but more like a 0.5mm nudge... it feels solid. Xavier (just want to share). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
SHR first impression : it's slow ?
Hi folks, I ruined my OM2008.12 yesterday, trying to put some bad libc6 for mozilla-fennec. So I told myself let's try this SHR everybody is talking about I have some problems with : 1. wifi : Wifi Mofi hangs when I run it 2. gps : GPS cannot fix 3. SHR Panels : some panels in 'Settings' hang when I click on them (GSM/operators for example) 4. Everything is slow For 1 to 3 I hope I will find a solution by investigating a bit more, but these things worked 'as if' with OM2008.12 so I was a bit disappointed... so many people write SHR unstable is very stable, but I find OM2008.12 to be far more stable... Maybe something is wrong with my install, I don't know. For 4 I would need your help, enlightenment eats lots of kernel time in htop (cpu and memory are still ok), it was 15:00.00 the last time I checked. I need 2-3 seconds to scroll on desktop, while in enlightement settings panel (aka the wrench) it is fluid. Does anybody have an idea for 4. ? Best regards, Xavier Cremaschi. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR first impression : it's slow ?
I can hit the wrench and see: Display Look Screen Input No advanced at all. You can scroll horizontally. I have lots of item in this bar in my SHR (unstable installed yesterday) Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR first impression : it's slow ?
1. wifi : Wifi Mofi hangs when I run it 3. SHR Panels : some panels in 'Settings' hang when I click on them (GSM/operators for example) 4. Everything is slow Seem better since yesterday evening upgrade, but it still very hard to scroll on desktop. 2. gps : GPS cannot fix I cannot make it working. Hardware is ok since it worked with Om2008.8, timezone/time is good, but no fix... 'telnet localhost 2947' always output same 'empty' data. Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Revealing/Hiding my caller id
Indeed I have the same question for SHR now : how can I reveal or hide my phone number to my correspondents ? Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR first impression : it's slow ?
Carl Lobo a écrit : Is fso-gpsd running? Try restarting it from Settings/Services. GPS seems to be working fine for me with my last update on Monday.. Yes of course, - date and timezone ok - persist file removed - fso-gpsd restarted - no concurrent gpsd running - telnet localhost 2947 ok but without real data when press on r (but lots of commas !) And no fix in tangogps even after long time. Xavier. PS : but you're right to mention trivial things, to avoid the omfg-cable-was-unplugged-since-beginning syndrom ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Revealing/Hiding my caller id
Klaus Kurzmann a écrit : via GUI not yet... you can do it with a dbus call: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.GSM.Network.html;hb=HEAD#SetCallingIdentification mrmoku Thanks ! Does a dbus call persist over reboot or should I add it in an init script ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR first impression : it's slow ?
Helge Hafting a écrit : Remove the file /etc/freesmartphone/persist/ogpsd.pickle then, restart frameword or just reboot. (Restarting frameworkd sometimes cause trouble with the phone side instead). ogpsd.pickle is where gps information is saved in order to speed up the next activation of the gps unit. It goes bad sometimes, particularly after starting a newly flashed SHR unstable. If this file goes bad enough, you wont get a fix - ever! Deleting the file forces the gps to cold start, which may take an extra minute or two. But it works reliably. When you stop using the gps unit, a new ogpsd.pickle file is created - this time with good data. Helge Hafting Already done, no fix at all after 40min. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR/FSO] - GPS - no fix, ogpsd.pickle question
Since my update of yesterday evening I have successfully obtain a fix (and /etc/init.d/fso-gpsd stop rm ogps.pickle reboot) Try to do the update :if it works it was a regression, if not it confirms another problem, getting a fix is very tricky. Best regards, Xavier ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR first impression : it's slow ?
Helge Hafting a écrit : For example: telnet localhost gpsd r You should get at least one message per second after hitting enter after the r - whether you have a fix or not. Already done, 1 msg/second, always the same (no fix inside, no numerical values) You may also want to try grep ogpsd /var/log/frameworkd.log check if there are any messages indicating trouble. this particular one is normal, although it looks like a problem: 2009.02.25 22:47:06 ogpsdWARNING (could not write to '/sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gps.0/power_on': [Errno 2] No such file or directory:'/sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gps.0/power_on') Already done too, I made an update yesterday @ 23h00 CET time, and just after I deleted the pickle file and rebooted, and I had a fix. I presume a bug was fixed. Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR] Phonelog and hidden caller ids
Hi folks, phonelog crashes as soon as someone calls me from a phone with hidden caller id. There is a simple problem in /usr/bin/phonelog : the output of the error message fails because of a problem of python string and int concatenation. It seems easy to fix, by replacing : print foo + call + bar by print foo %d bar % call (never done anything in python, so not sure) But, by reading the code, it seems that phonelog will just output a message saying hey dude, delete call from database and relaunch, so does anybody has or is able to modify phonelog to handle this kind of caller-without-id ? Btw db still grows, so even if the app cannot be launched the FR still logs calls. Xavier Cremaschi. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Revealing/Hiding my caller id
It does not seem persistent over reboot, even with the new GUI iface of Johny Tenfinger (thanks for that btw !) Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bying a Freerunner with the buzz-fix on it
Alexander Raab a écrit : Hi, I'm thinking about getting a Freerunner. But a few months ago I met someone and he told me that the buzzing is quite heavy. I read about a fix for that on the A7, but there is only a A6 sold. Have I missed something? And whats about the GTA03? Would it be sold this year, next year or ... best regards Alex In a mail from Steve Mosher (VP Marketing) on 2009/02/1st he wrote : -- Feb 2-9: final alsa states for A7 are developed and tested and signed off. Feb 9-16: Phones at the factory are flashed. Feb 16-23: Ship to Disty. Those are not official dates agreed to by everyone working the issue, but I suspect they are close. When will it get to you? That's hard to say. I would expect some disty will try to be the first with A7 phones and will start their order process as the TPE returns for work on 2/2. -- About GTA03 I think almost nobody is working on it, it's just a draft (a wiki page ?), am I wrong ? Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Phonelog and hidden caller ids
Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann a écrit : what version of SHR (or more specifically ophonekitd) are you using? Must be rather old... This was fixed long time ago. pyphonelog - 0.16.3-r0 - ophonekitd - 0.0.1+gitr603+55f1ffd482fe6172a694a2416e18627a0acc6484-r15 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Note taking applications
Maybe he meant with a small screen ? I think we need a software which allows us to write a word in fullscreen (maximizing the available writing area), then detects (pause? gesture?) the word is complete, adds it to the current sentence, and cleans the screen for next word. Does anyone have an idea of such a software ? Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fennec Beta 1 Released
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra a écrit : Does it have a sane compile process already? Or is it still the hell on drugs that I last saw (which was fairly recent)? I tried for alpha 1 and alpha 2 too, and I failed. But IIRC Marco Trevisan succeeded (for alpha 1) a long time ago... Marco if you read this, can you put a bit of your knowledge on the wiki ? So maybe one of us will be able to compile the beta for FR without becoming insane. Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR] vim, ntpclient... a repository ?
Hi folks, does someone know how to install vim (not vi) in SHR ? I think there is one repository I don't have, I can't believe vim to be not available :P Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bying a Freerunner with the buzz-fix on it
Hi, one month after, do you have any update relative to shipping date of GTA02v7 ? Kind regards, Xavier ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bying a Freerunner with the buzz-fix on it
Xavier Cremaschi a écrit : Hi, one month after, do you have any update relative to shipping date of GTA02v7 ? Kind regards, Xavier mode Biff Tannen ON : Hello? Hello? Anybody home? Huh? :-/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: projects.openmoko.org not reliable
Yorick Moko a écrit : i have the same weirdness with shr-project.org and bearstech.com sometimes i can't acces anything of it, except blog.shr-project.org (but not build or anything else) For me it's sometimes with www.angstrom-distribution.org ... maybe the dark power of the telco/internet providers lobby, who fears Openmoko ;P ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Booting from MicroSD
You probably need to remove 'ro' from kernel options of your boot loader (uboot I presume) Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What is involved in preforming the hardware Buzz fix?
Adam Jimerson a écrit : P.S. Is the next hardware release of the phone, if one is planned, have this fix already applied? Future revision (GTA02v7) should have the fix applied. It was supposed to be released in February, but we still are waiting for it... Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] 4-16 shr-testing is pretty good!
Vasco Nevoa a écrit : And Raster's keyboard finally works the way it should (fast and clean). With utf-8 support or not ? If I wrote 'ete' with my french dictionary, will it propose me 'été' ? Because IIRC, it was an utf-8 patch that made it very slow in the old SHR-testing... Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR-testing] ls /lib/modules : input/output error.... fsck.jffs2 ?
Hi folks, I have updated my FR in shr-testing last sunday, and there was no icons on my desktop at all. And because of a lack of 'depmod -a', I couldn't access to my FR through ssh (no usb ethernet, no wifi). So I have booted on sd card (debian), mounted /dev/mtdblock6, chroot and depmod. Then everything starts working again (cool no ?) But today I have lost wifi/usb ethernet once again (I don't know why, no unusual use), and from the shr terminal I can see : $ls /lib/modules input/output error in ./2.6.29-rc3/ From debian, everything is ok (I can mount and ls this folder) Any idea ? Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] flashed kernel and uname
No problem at all with shr and 2.6.29, but I solved the lack of modules by : - booting from sdcard - chrooting on flash - downloading and unpacking modules archive from http://build.shr-project.org Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR,FSO] Serenity theme for illume
Just a question : before I used shr-testing and serenity, and my apps were black (tangogps, wifimofi). Yesterday I flashed my FR to restore a fresh new shr-testing, I restored serenity too, but my apps are grey (like a classical gtk widget). An idea ? Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] flashed kernel and uname
Xavier Cremaschi a écrit : No problem at all with shr and 2.6.29, but I solved the lack of modules by : - booting from sdcard - chrooting on flash - downloading and unpacking modules archive from http://build.shr-project.org Xavier. I must add : with 2.6.29-rc2 (packaged in files named 2.6.28, weird) it seems you cannot see the FR from a Microsoft Windows OS, when with 2.6.29-rc3 I can ssh without any problems. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] flashed kernel and uname
In the chroot, after unpacking, do not forget to do a depmod -a 2.6.29-rcX (put the name of your /lib/modules/directory here) Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [navit] Actions-Town-Streetname: no ok button?
Marcel a écrit : Hello! I'm fiddling around a bit with navit and found that there's no confirm button when searching for a location (?) via the internal gui: Menu-Actions-Town-[enter town's name]-[click green tick]-Street name- [enter street name]- There's no green tick to click (what a rhyme...) here. Is that a bug? Or am I missing something? *g* -- Marcel Navit refines the result list when you add letters. At the end you just have to pick the right item in the (small) list. If you see nothing in town list after writing 'A' (for example), it could mean : - you use a piece of openstreetmap with tags navit cannot understand - no city with a name beginning by 'A' in the selected country (lol) Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
A5 buzzfixed : which alsa state file ?
Everything is in the title : should I keep my A5 files or use the A7 ones ? Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2009] Couple of troubles
It successfully connects to bouth of my wifi routers, acquires DNS servers so I can see them in /etc/resolv.conf. But I cant ping any of internet addresses. Even IP addresses =( Check your routes (route -n), I think the source of your problem is there ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing release 5
I see none of my contacts... am I missing something obvious or is it a bug ? Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debuzzing
Olivier Migeot a écrit : Now my lovely lil' Neo is back, and is (as far as I can tell) buzz-free. Thanks a lot guys. These are initiatives that makes me happy I bought an FR, no matter how many problems occured/still occurs. Mine is back too, after a nice trip to Germany... it just told me I'm sorry I lost my buzz in München... :P Thanks Dr N. for what you did ! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[om2009] shr-settings like ? usability ?
Hi folks, is there any way to activate/deactivate suspend (for gps use) from GUI in Om2009, as with the Settings menu in SHR ? Other question : I leave for a 5 days trip tomorrow. The last time I did this I was using SHR (it went fine), but few days ago I installed Om2009. But I don't have enough feedback to decide : should I rollback to SHR for this trip or is Om2009 usable enough ? Thanks for advice, Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [om2009] shr-settings like ? usability ?
Risto H. Kurppa a écrit : On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Xavier Cremaschiomega.xav...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, is there any way to activate/deactivate suspend (for gps use) from GUI in Om2009, as with the Settings menu in SHR ? Settings (prss aux for 2sec) - phone - suspend - -1 Thanks for the tip ! Btw do you know how I can scroll in 'Settings' without entering into a submenu ? Other question : I leave for a 5 days trip tomorrow. The last time I did this I was using SHR (it went fine), but few days ago I installed Om2009. But I don't have enough feedback to decide : should I rollback to SHR for this trip or is Om2009 usable enough ? Test it at home: if you can do what you want (=gps, wlan, calls, ...) and are happy with it, why not. calls and gps seems ok :) r - using FROM2009t5 as my only phone, planning to travel around 3 weeks with it.. If you think 3 weeks are doable, it's a good argument for me to try for 5 days :) Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [om2009] shr-settings like ? usability ?
Laszlo KREKACS a écrit : On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Xavier Cremaschiomega.xav...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the tip ! Btw do you know how I can scroll in 'Settings' without entering into a submenu ? Yepp. It is fixed since two days or so Upgrade to the latest unstable or wait for the next testing release. If you think 3 weeks are doable, it's a good argument for me to try for 5 days :) Before anyone is going to vacation and using om2009, I highly recommend you to either wait the next testing release, or try unstable, or incorporate this patch to your local paroli: http://git.paroli-project.org/?p=paroli.git;a=commit;h=7540025fad3c8ba6def420909b79b06f2e198b0b http://git.paroli-project.org/?p=paroli.git;a=commit;h=3a8cd2048e14da8895747e861d79fa24dc1a70dd http://git.paroli-project.org/?p=paroli.git;a=commit;h=4cc4242559f4b038dc15356bbc76e617dc1b13f1 It makes *automatic* backup of your sms', contacts, call-logs. So if you loose your contacts in the middle of nowhere, at least you can recover;) Laszlo I made the update :) Btw 'People' application needs to be fixed... For whom it may concern, in /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/tichy/gui_paroli/__init__.py, line 288, in _redraw_view the line letter = value[0] triggers an error. If you read the code, you will see something like : if hasattr(item, attribute): value = getattr(item, attribute) if isinstance(value, str) and not len(value): value = #bugfix for empty name if self.LetterDict: if self.label_list.index((part, attribute)) == 0: letter = value[0] This code fails is 'value' is None, which is its value in my specific case indeed. I tried an ugly modification : if hasattr(item, attribute): value = getattr(item, attribute) if value == None: value = if isinstance(value, str) and not len(value): value = #bugfix for empty name if self.LetterDict and len(value): if self.label_list.index((part, attribute)) == 0: letter = value[0] Now it's fine. Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [om2009] Perfect for holidays
Laszlo KREKACS a écrit : if self.LetterDict and len(value): The len(value) part is not needed, because you already fixed it before. And if the value is None, the len(value) fails with a TypeError exception. I was not sure (and am still not) the two 'if' before this one represent all the possible cases... But I was sure of one thing : this code block wants to use string[0], therefore len(string) have to be true. ps: Im wondering how people manages to add empty contacts and with value None(!). We are the geeks, we can do everything (**) More seriously, my old Nokia 9210 seemed to use an internal convention for contacts. If I put for John Smith a phone number (001), a fax number (002) and a private gsm number (003), I will see on my SIM card : Someone before John Smith : XXX John Smith : 001 '' : 002 '' : 003 Someone after John Smith : YYY Additional bug report : suspend -1 does not prevent suspending. Conclusion : Om2009 is really usable and reliable, and Paroli is fuck*ng great... the perfect solution for your FR if you want to go on holidays ! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all] navit install problems
Robin Paulson a écrit : 2009/7/6 Christ van Willegen cvwille...@gmail.com: On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Jeffrey Ratcliffejeffrey.ratcli...@gmail.com wrote: It works if you set up a swapfile. Having to set up a swap file for an .ipk file of 3M in size still seems unreasonable... the ipk i installed was over 5MB - i presume it expands to some huge size and is stored in ram. i tried the --tmpdir switch (which i assumed would unpack it straight to disk rather than to ram) but that didn't help at all dd if=/dev/zero of=/path/to/swapfile bs=1M count=128 mkswap /path/to/swapfile swapon /path/to/swapfile then retry. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [om2009] shr-settings like ? usability ?
Laszlo KREKACS a écrit : if self.LetterDict and len(value): The len(value) part is not needed, because you already fixed it before. And if the value is None, the len(value) fails with a TypeError exception. I pushed a fix which should be enough: http://git.paroli-project.org/?p=paroli.git;a=commit;h=3af9f956337445dc3772038ba1eeeb8a4e33f406 I confirm the 'and len(value)' is mandatory, I did an update and your fixed version still crashes (it's ok again when I add the len(value)) Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] i did something really stupid...help needed with opkg
Robin Paulson a écrit : yeah, like really really dumb. i've been taking a few packages from debian and installing them on my shr system. all was going well, until i got to libc6. here i should have stopped - this is a pretty critical part of any system, unlike gphoto and other trivial stuff that i'd installed previously my system works fine as far as i can tell - it boots, everything runs fine, but at every opkg update opkg upgrade i get this: Multiple packages (libc6 and libc6) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER. Using latest. Multiple packages (libc6 and libc6) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER. Using latest. Multiple packages (libc6 and libc6) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER. Using latest. Multiple packages (libc6 and libc6) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER. Using latest. Upgrading libc6 on root from 2.6.1-r16 to 2.7-18... Collected errors: * ERROR: Package libc6 (parent libc6) is not available from any configured src. * Failed to download libc6. Perhaps you need to run 'opkg update'? but it never completes. i should say, all the other packages upgrade just fine. i think the issue is with the install scripts, there are commands in them which aren't relevant to the freerunner (dpkg for instance), so it's never going to complete opkg list_installed |grep libc6 returns the version from shr (2.6) opkg install -force-reinstall and opkg install -force-downgrade give the same messages as above so, can anyone offer advice? i want to return to the original shr version without re-flashing if possible cheers Download and extract libc6 package, then put the files at the right place ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] No suspend after ffalarms alarm while suspended
Marcel a écrit : G'evening, I'm not sure where this problem comes from, so I tell you about it before filing a bug somewhere. Steps to reproduce: 0. Boot the Neo freshly 1. Set an alarm in ffalarms 2. suspend the Neo 3. wait for the alarm to ring (whatever sound you have set :p) 4. Neo's awake now. Try to suspend. Expected: Should suspend normally Observed: Doesn't suspend, frameworkd.log: http://pastebin.ca/1488707 Workaround: Restart frameworkd. Worked partially (once). Now I've got it so far not to suspend at all anymore but just show tty1 for some time and then return to illume as if nothing happened. frameworkd.log of such a process: http://pastebin.ca/1488840 I hope this gets someone any further... I'm not too enlightened what exact conditions it takes to break suspend yet. -- Marcel Not sure it's related, but : - in Om2009r5, it was impossible NOT to suspend (event with suspend -1 in config settings). So it was bad for car gps but ok for phone autonomy - in Om2009 since my yesterday update, it's impossible to suspend (even with suspend 20 or suspend 30 in config settings). So now it's ok for car gps but less good for phone autonomy... Does someone break something in the suspend stuff ? More important : does someone know how to solve that ? Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2009] paroli - settings scroll
Risto H. Kurppa a écrit : On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Previdi Robertoprevidi.robe...@gmail.com wrote: Is it possible to scroll the settings in paroli without clicking anyone? At the moment it isn't, it hasn't been fixed yet, as far as I know. r I can do it, it has been fixed some days after the release of the r5. Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: moving mouse cursor automatically with xautomation (Re: touchpad on OM)
I don't think X supports two pointers to have at two different places. That's why I have to draw a fake pointer. I don't know for the X in Freerunner but http://wearables.unisa.edu.au/mpx/?q=mpx Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: moving mouse cursor automatically with xautomation (Re: touchpad on OM)
Timo Juhani Lindfors a écrit : Xavier Cremaschi omega.xav...@gmail.com writes: I don't know for the X in Freerunner but http://wearables.unisa.edu.au/mpx/?q=mpx Any idea what the status is? I don't seem mpx in debian unstable and that page seems to be from 2006. Wikipedia : - MPX was merged into the current development version of X.Org on 26 May 2008 - Xinput2 (XI2) which is the second official stable API release of the XInput X Window Extension, containing MPX was merged into the current development version of X.Org on 3 Jun 2009 You'll need to wait for server 1.7 (X11R7.5, cf. http://www.x.org/wiki/Releases/7.5 ), but it's coming... Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
tangogps : updating tiles ?
Hi folks, I have been using tangogps since the beginning of my Openmoko life (july 08), and now I've got lots of openstreetmap tiles stored on my microSD which cover useful areas for me. Does anyone know how I can update my tiles to get the most up-to-date openstreetmap info ? I don't care to re-dl all my tiles, but I don't want to download useless ones : my coverage is very specific, I have lots of tiles in order to cover cities on the coast (I zoomed and ask for a detail download of these cities), but almost nothing further in the land (not useful for me), so triggering a re-download of a huge rectangular area is NOT what I want. Thanks in advance for your help, Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tangogps : updating tiles ?
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Re: tangogps : updating tiles ?
Yaouh is nice, but the whole process is slow so I left my FR up all the night to update tiles (95k tiles updated/173k total). It seems fine now :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix party at Debconf09 pics aviable :)
David Reyes Samblas Martinez a écrit : There are some more from other camera unpublished yet but a great bunch of them are avialable with comments in spanish and english english version here http://www.tuxbrain.com/en/content/there-and-back-againtuxbrain-debconf09-pics I'm working on the subtitles of the vids I hope I can finish them soon Nice pics ! Now I need one of these Debian bottle of wine... Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Paroli : migrating SIM contacts
Hi folks, I use Om2009/fso/paroli as my daily phone, and today I need to migrate from my old SIM card to a new one. And of course I want to keep my contacts. What I have : - old SIM card with contacts (currently in my FR), but some are shorten (like a too long filename in MsDOS) probably because the card is a 9 year old one - new SIM card with nothing but pre-registered provider numbers - a vcf file exported from an old Nokia 9210 in 2008/07 (FR release date), full information (long names...) but of course contacts added between 2008/08 and now are missing - 2 contacts added in Paroli... must be on FR flash memory because I can see them even with the new SIM - geek abilities and a great FR community (you) What I want to do (ideally) : set up a centralized thing where I could import contacts from these different sources, then sort a bit the mess, then export everything in the new SIM. Do you have any idea ? Is there any SIM-to-vcf or paroli-to-vcf piece of software ? If not possible : what could be the best way to transfer my old SIM card contact into the new one ? I presume I can fill the holes/rename things manually after the big part of the job is done. Best regards, Xavier Cremaschi. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Paroli : migrating SIM contacts
Michael Pilgermann a écrit : Hi Xavier, generally speaking, you could use PISI (http://www.opkg.org/package_191.html) for this problem. Although, we developed and tested PISI on SHR. So, I do not know, whether it is running on Om 2009 as well? (Any experiences from anybody??) If it is running: You could take a copy of your VCF file - synchronize this one with you existing SIM card entries (access via dbus, should be in OM 2009 I think) ... afterwards, you could edit the vcf file and sync again with the new SIM card in the OM. The Paroli numbers are not yet visible to PISI; unless Paroli makes use of OPIMD??? But that would be new to me ... Michael Hi, I am currently trying to sync my old SIM card with my VCF file, in order to dump the VCF file into my new SIM card later. PISI can be installed and launched from my Om2009, but I have an encoding problem : ** Error: Changes to source 2 (VCF) could not be applied due to the following reason: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xe9' in position 36: ordinal not in range(128) Could you tell me how to run PISI in full UTF-8 ? I think this software could be a good solution for my problem, but my VCF file is an UTF-8 one (I am french) Best regards, Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Paroli : migrating SIM contacts
Michael Pilgermann a écrit : Hi Xavier, I don't think, you can configure this somewhere. I will have to apply some minor changes to the code - could you please send me a sample VCF file (some sanitized version of your file), which triggers the error message. I will try to fix this then soon ... Michael File sent ! :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Paroli : migrating SIM contacts
I have used a python script to load my VCF file into Paroli, now I have my contacts even if SIM is still empty. PISI failed to load the VCF file into SIM, but I still want to do that as soon as possible, because SIM is far more reliable than a file on FR. Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009
Angus Ainslie a écrit : Now I have a question of all of you. Should I continue to maintain Om2009. From the recent poll by rhk it seems that SHR users outnumber OM users by ~ 7:1. So what I'd like to know is does anyone still think Om2009 is a worthy venture or should I move over to SHR and see what help I can be there. As a Om2009t5 user it's a big YES for me. I know that numbers speak against Om2009, but I use and love this distrib. I am using it since 1st july, and I find it : - usable (hi Paroli !) - stable while using (few reboots, only when battery exhausted or when I need to change SIM, which is rare) - stable while upgrading : I was used to break lots of things while upgrading my SHR-U, it's far better with Om2009 Xavier Cremaschi. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009
Risto H. Kurppa a écrit : Sorry to tell you but this is because there have been no changes in OM2009 - nothing that could break anything. SHR instead is developed all the time - changes when upgrading - things might eventually break.. True, but as my gsm, my gps, etc... are ok, no could break anything change seems a good deal. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009
Michal Brzozowski a écrit : Then just flush one of the SHR-u images that people report as stable and don't upgrade... That's what I do. I like small fixes, and I don't like huge breaking changes, nor this idea of a unstable, which is stable, which is not so stable please wait before upgrading... ok now! don't move then!. Of course I understand the lack of -testing and/or -stable branch is a suffered constraint and not a choice. I am not *against* SHR, but please do not forget people who prefer stability over bleeding-edge (hello Debian users o/) Xavier Cremaschi. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
