But why is ext3 not recommended for sd-card when compared to ext2?
i understood ist because of the additional wear caused by journalling.
I played with debian on my sd card for over a week without any problems
so far concerning the sd-card. I hope i must not backup my rootfs and
reformat it
Trolltech released Qtopia 4.3.2 this week, and the GPL sources hit the
slightly ot: is there a chance there will be an eclipse plugin anytime
soon?
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Before putting to sleep
what exactly are you doing when putting to sleep?
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is there any difference ?
afaik only insofar as frameworkd sedates the modem before calling.
re the draining: there _has_ to be a change in the latest updates.
i tried to resume my fr a few minutes ago -- and it was stone dead!
after putting on usb and a second, successful attempt (into 2007.2
in xfce-main-menu i need three clicks to open a submenu. someone an
idea on this?
i noticed it too -- sometimes even more.
i somehow think the menu is populated every time it's expanded --
subsequent submenus expand on first click.
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IIRC FSO uses a different gps daemon (ogpsd?) that makes GPS data
available
there#s fso-gpsd, a compatibility layer that allow legacy gpsd-interfaced
applications to run with fso
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I already use the newest kernel with debian.
2008-08-31 21:29:43,869 ERROR Exception in handler for D-Bus signal:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/dbus/connection.py, line 214,
in maybe_handle_message
self._handler(*args, **kwargs)
File
I've opened openmoko-feedreader2 and I've noticed that there isn't any
way to insert a new feed among the default feeds.
When clicking on the new feed icon in the 3th tab, nothing happens,
and the command line messages do not help to understand where's the
problem.
what about copying and
Do you others who run Debian on the Freerunner have sound?
yes.
What have you done to get it working?
nothing, afair, worked out of the box.
any error messages when playing or just silence?
did you check the mixer's settings?
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to an Ubuntu box, extract them from the deb file
dpkg -x filname.deb extract to dir
create a tarball,
that's rather ... long-winded, three far easier ways spring to mind:
1) alien -t midori...deb
produces a tar.gz from the deb
2) ar x midori...deb
splits the deb in it's three parts, use the
before crashing debian on my 8G-sd with experiments with apm i was
able to exchange files with my bt-enabled se-w810i
right-click on bluetooth-applet - browse device - choose w810i and
connect. first time i did the passkey-dialog appeared and everything
was fine .. sending/receiving data
sry i missed that - i am using xfce - by now i installed everything
with 'obex' in the name
what bt-applet did you have?
the only one i found so far is that little panel applet someone from the
list created and that only allows you to en-/disable gsm, wifi, gps, bt
and shows battery status.
could it be you had
bluez-gnome
installed?
since you have an 8gb card and xfce uses gtk the dependencies should not
worry you -- the only other graphical passkey agent i know in debian is in
kdebluetooth whcih you probaly would remember if you installed it.
Filter on the client side and leave the rest of us alone :)
that works only, if _everybody_ pust a distinctive feature in the subject.
there are a lot of messages with no marker whatsoever that the deal with
(mostly) 2008.8, since the ops are obviously ignorant of the fact that the
lists
But there are errors related to icons. You think I have to solve them to
start the function associated with the button? However icons are visible
only if you suspect that missing icons mean functions not accessible --
but for missing icons probably generic ones are used, i think.
I regulary upgrade my debian system every 1-2 days. In the last 2 days i
got an update for zhone automatically installed which doesn't work
anymore.
upgraded yesterday and have no problems so far.
When i use apt-cache show zhone i see version 0-git20080809-4 but no
that the same version i
But isn't there a way to use suspend/resume with the power button
without zhone?
probably not -- that's because of the development staus of fso and the
nature of zhone.
zhone is an app to test all the features of fso -- if you look into
zhone.log you'll see that even the pwr presshold is
I deactivated GSM within the panel app and it seems that zhone doesn't
really like this. I can also see messages in the log now.
After reboot (don't know why zhone doesn't work just after reactivation
of gsm) zhone works normal.
did you restart zhone and/or fso-frameworkd?
I have no SIM
I am having a lot of freezes and the only solution so far has been to
unplug the battery. Is there any other way I should be aware of?
you could try (if you didn't already) to hold pwr until the device reboots.
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There was some discussion about the mailing lists a couple of months
ago - one Openmoko employee said they were considering suggestions
then another (apparently) unilaterally went on ahead anyway and
redefined the purpose of the device-owners list, renaming it to
support at the same time (an
with a segfault when attempting to read the dependency tree [1].
What may I do about that?
could be, your apt is stuck with that broken package (somewhere internally
is probably an unfinished job! flag set).
try to download the package manually (wget or so)
apt-cache show linux-libc-dev
shows
Anyone has a suggestion for a list of good keywords, something we can
start from (non-authoritative)? perhaps even a simple semantics?
well, on the hardware side we got
gta01 aka neo1973
gta02 aka freerunner (v5 as released version with v6 upcoming somehow)
softwareside
2007.2
2008.8
qtopia
please stop spamming the list with baseless rumours
pardon?
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I do want opkg to update the kernel, but I don't want it to touch NAND,
because my system is on the SD card.
i would expect opkg to update the kernel in /boot -- if you boot from sd
it should be the kernel /boot on your sd, if you boot from nand it should
be nand.
how did you design your
what have you installed?
2007.2
2008.8
qtopia
fso
?
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I guess you mean A2DP audio streaming. Otherwise you could use the
Headset or
the Handsfree profile. They are probably a bit easier to set up but have
poor
audio quality since they are developed for voice transmissions and not
for
Music like A2DP.
with the buzzing still unsolved
On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:06:16 +0200, Mikael Berthe
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* arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-09-02 10:57 +0200]:
I do want opkg to update the kernel, but I don't want it to touch
NAND,
because my system is on the SD card.
i would expect opkg to update the kernel
it seems to me the battery-plugin doesn't handle apm right?
the plugin does -- fso does not.
the plugin relies on apmd which is not used in fso and, as known, produces
issues when running.
since it is far bigger than the corresponding battery symbol, you're
better off with the
Now on 2008.08 I cannot found the same kind of option... does someone
know how I can configure this using a terminal ?
this is usually achieved by prefixing the number you dial with one of
these *foo# codes -- ask your provider or search the net for a list of
those.
try to put your echo strings in quotes:
echo -n ifdown usb0...
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The prefix I can imagine are:
[debian]
[2007.2]
[2008.8]
[qtopia]
Someone as other prefix to add on this list?
[fso]
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can someone tell me howto setup bt @ FR so i could transfer files /
browse FR via bt like my se-w810i?
(use FR as bt-fileserver)
look for everything with obex in it's name ...
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If you have any suggestions how to further improve the packaging i'll be
happy to hear. how can we integrate this package to the debian-fso
seems, the .desktop file is gone?
at least the plugin isn't any longer in the menu and dpkg -L does not show
one.
And now i got the kernel from today running and it seems to work.
does suspending by holding pwr for about 4 secs still work?
i tried a kernel+module-tarball about two weeks ago and at least
suspending that way stopped to work -- so i switched back to the
installation kernel+modules.
firstly:
- this is a support-list issue
- prefix your subject with at least the distribution you're using (2007.2,
2008.8, fso, debian) and maybe the hardware (gta01, gta02)
to make it easier to help you
When I run tangogps it tells me that I have no gps. It is weird because I
have the
I don't suppose you could tell me what file to look at? I've not seen
look below /etc for pulseaudio. there's a config file with sample in it.
the community archives of juni should contain a few messages describing
how to do it.
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this I knew, but Russell mentions changing the ringtone *format*, not
just the tone. I've not seen anything about this.
sorry, must have missed that.
re format i remember somebody posting a patch for python, that enabled
something. and i think, it was for 2007.2 (since i skip most other
cc1: warning: -f[no-]force-mem is nop and option will be removed in 4.2
that's only a warning, should be save to ignore.
In file included from sys/linux/joy.c:6:
/usr/include/linux/joystick.h:131: error: expected
specifier-qualifier-list
before '__s64'
google has a few hits for that:
how to disable joystick ? oO
./configure --help
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SDL: can't set video mode: No video mode large enough for 160x144
can't really help you there.
have a look at google and check maybe with fbset what idea sdl might have
of your screen.
http://doc.freevo.org/FAQ#head-a6b386d46c6dd5694353689a4017ccfbcaf19ee9
here's one related to zaurus
Suggestions?
start by clicking from menu or file manager?
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any tip on how to follow up?
have a look at
lsmod
is
g_ether
listed?
if not, do
modprobe
g_ether
if that helps: when did you update your kernel last?
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one should probably ask on the fso-list what's the differen'ce between om
and fso kernels is -- the subject seems not to be appealing to the fso
guys reading this list ...
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Is this the right list or is there a more apropriate list for this kind
of questions for fso?
dunno, but asked anyway ...
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Any recent OM kernel package should have this already. I don't know
what the deal is with Debian and which config they use. The ones that
OM use to generate the packages are defconfig-gta01 and defconfig-gta02,
these are set to cook modules for g_ether and the other gadgets.
debian should
Someone managed to compile one with touchscreen working (Arne Anka?
Timo? not sure, sorry), and Gismo started to clean up some packaging,
i did. and the deb is available on
http://www.ginguppin.de/node/23
be aware that right click does not work -- there seems to be the necessary
code
device to /dev/ttySAC1 and it works. I don't know for what reason i
should install fso-gpsd.
so that you don't need gpsd.
fso handles gps by itself -- thus having gpsd trying to handle gps too,
might end up in confusion.
fso-gpsd is a compatibility layer between fso and applications requiring
would you please post in the commonly used language of this list?
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But from where can I get LAN tools for [EMAIL PROTECTED] In which package I
will find it?
if you use debian on your pc, use apt-file. else see
http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages#search_contents
the bottommost form.
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i remember to have read a while ago, where to download navit for
debian/armel -- but i can't find the message.
could someone please post a link -- even for an ipk if nothing else exists?
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(1) does it support wimax?
afaik no
(2) i heard we can install a deb files is that true?
you can install debian/armel and thus the world of debian is open to you
(3) can i try android in it and install openmoko back?
not atm and it's quite unclear if ever -- android is for now available
What about tinymail http://tinymail.org?
is there a gui?
the page states, it is a framework but the demos show some kind of gui --
but i can't find further informations.
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Another thing is I bought a 2G uSD and I want to move my debian system to
that card. If I manually partition it (8MB fat and rest ext2) and just
copy
contents of 512M, would it work? Or maybe i can copy an image using dd
and
then somehow resize the partition. Anyone tried migrating from
A consistency check with fdisk yielded that the size of the partition and
the size of the filesystem do not match, and advised me to run e2fsck.
e2fsck said there are no problems. I ran fdisk and e2fsck on FR-debian.
gparted on my py sees the partition as 2GB. darn it.
so? your partition
Exists something i could do?
you probably need to fiddle with the sd clock. search the archives and the
wiki, there should be a few postings/entries how to do that either in
u-boot-menu or in sysfs.
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Running OM2008.8 I cant start an xterm session, how could I do it?
2008.8 != debian/fso
I just installed xfce4, it is runnig well, but slowly...
How could I start OM2008.8 with zhone and the openmoko-panel-plugin at
start up?
not at all afaik.
2008.8 is one distribution for freerunner,
a few questions:
- to move an installation from sd card to flash: is it sensible/sufficient
to delete everything from flash and copy from sd card?
creating a jffs image and flash it to the fr seems rather long-winded.
- to those havin debian in flash: what do you have in flash what on sd? my
But why you refer to Debian/FSO? Is the arm repo mainteined by the FSO
team?
no.
but fso has it's own life independent of debian -- otoh debian on fr makes
only sense when using fso.
OM does not use FSO?
not yet.
it is supposed to be the next step (internally) -- but afaik the 200X.Y
BTW What I wanna mean is if it is possible to have the openmoko-panel-
plugin running on the zhone-session, the default one for Debian on
freerunner.
if you have _only_ zhone running (ie no xfce or what desktop/window
manager ever), the answer is no.
if you use xfce and start zhone as
My .deb doesnt appear to miss these icons, except brightness.png.
I cant find the brightness.png file in the src tgz.
now that you mention it -- wifi is not shown.
i get the brightness dialog randomly and though it was a second
functionality of the battery icon ...
You have to enable it in the openmoko-panel-plugin file. Just set
ah, thanks a lot.
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accelerated x-driver!
since the specs for the glamo are subject to an nda, nobody else can ...
We have an accelerated X driver, do you mean add more features?
afair 3d and video (ie playing videos) still need work.
am i wrong? did i miss something?
additionally, xglamo in debian does not
I would like to ask the community:
What do you want us to work on?
accelerated x-driver!
since the specs for the glamo are subject to an nda, nobody else can ...
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not sure, if i understand you correctly -- but you might have a look into
/usr/bin/zhone-session.
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- is it possible to have zhone not lock the screen? its just
inconvenient.
i looked it up in code and simply commented the part -- it's a while ago,
though, and i don't remember exactly, where it was (/usr/bin/zhone i think)
- is it possible to have zhone jump to the top of the window
Did a quick google but couldnt figure out what it uses as storage.
Hopefully not a relational database - they have their uses and qtopia
has conclusively proven this is *NOT* it :)
Yes, the do indeed use MySQL!
well, if it is supposed to be a part of kde, the use case is clearly a
desktop
==Pim device==
imho that's exactly the kind of task openmoko did _not_ ask for.
there are a lot of posts lately completely ignoring the point of basics
and no eyecandy -- if the list in the wiki develops the same way it's
plain useless.
pim frinst is at it's best part of a middle tier, but
So first I tried the
testing-om-gta02-20081019.uImage.binhttp://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing-om-gta02-20081019.uImage.binkernel
from
http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/
While everything booted fine, I could not ssh into the device so I had to
give up on that kernel and just
CPU time of a proc? I was thinking in something like 'cat /proc/5/...'
it's hard to believe there should be no python way to access procfs more
generic (not to speak of other languages).
maybe
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2004-December/298171.html
helps?
No, I have not tried the 512mb card (it's at home and I'm at college).
I'm not sure how to do what you're talking about arne, but you're
suggesting that I can install a base system and put Debian on that? Can
you point me in the correct direction?
He was saying if you had your 512 to
Awesome, what's the model # on that sandisk 8G?
see here for the amazon url (sandisk 8gb ultra II seems to do, especially
ultra II)
http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1088359
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When I looked at the prices for GPRS service from my provider (around
3¢/kB), I was flabbergasted,
well, i pay 24¢/mb. simyo, germany.
with my treo 650 i mostly used it to look for the next available train,
when german railways spoiled my plans again ... and an occasional call to
google
This is the listing of the above link:
[ ] dfu-util22-Oct-2008 01:31 579K
[ ] gta01bv4-lowlevel.bin 22-Oct-2008 01:31 280
[ ] gta01bv4-u-boot.bin 22-Oct-2008 01:31 214K
[ ] gta02v5_and_up-lowlevel.bin
which file is used to set the auto-login user?
not sure -- but even changing that would not really help, since a lot of
functionality simply requires root rights.
_all_ distributions available suffer from the same big security issue that
the run as root.
the issue was discussed some month
type), copied the content of the first one (kernel and a text file whose
purpose i do not yet grasp)
it should be a text file that, just for reference, contains the URL of
the installed kernel
that i did understand -- but has it other meanings but to offer the user a
link? ie, does the
I have been using debian so that all X apps run as normal user for
almost a month now.
with everything? suspend, gps, wlan, you name it?
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I finally worked out what I was missing here. So for anyone else in
the same bemused state: you have to have some SIM contacts!
did not see that thread before -- but yes. it is so since zhone
started.probably everybody presumed you know that.
bot do not despair!
the wiki has imo a
1) touchscreen (no qwerty buttons) - freerunner, HTC Orbit, iphone
2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball - blackberry curve
3) combination touchscreen plus qwerty - G1
4) 5-way-rocker switch (maybe with two softkeys left and right) -- palm pda
the only thing i miss right now (maybe someone
is it just me or is somebody else also experiencing a weird sensation of
dejavu?
i hoped this topic to be discussed to death several times.
anybody made a statistic how many weeks it takes before it comes up again
... and again ... and again?
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below a patch for zhone to read contatcs instead from sim from
/root/addressbook.vcf (what's the easiest way to determine the user's home
directory from python?)
main difference to the patch proposed someweher on the wiki: _all_ numbers
of one contact are added to the list, not just the last
With the risk of being completely OT - you all
know that the QWERTY keyboard was designed for
the specific purpose of not having the hammers
of the typewriter clash if you type too fast ?
There's nothing very ergonomical about them.
In that perspective, qwerty layouts have been
legacy since
Please also have a look at the following three use cases concerning SIM
contacts and address book contacts. This is an elegant way of dealing
with the two.
you lost me there -- which following use cases?
on a related note: anybody usable links to fso/framweorkd documentation?
i only found one
http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/index.html;hb=HEAD
that one i was looking for -- none of the specific pages google lists has
a reference to this toc.
It's not an easy human-readable URL, but it is linked from the
freesmartphone.org homepage, and it does give
Should we remove devel completely or should we try harder to stay on
topic?
well, what topic is community supposed to have? it's rather fuzzy, i
think.
support, devel, hardware, device-owners, ... state(d) their
purposes by their names, but in which respect is community different
from
I had expected to find the mailing list details easily, but they are
burried on the Tutorials page!
mr livingston, i presume?
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please, prefix your posting's subject with the name of the distribution
you're using -- like everybody else does.
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If you think that's buried... help us, it's a wiki!
not as long as it requires to create an account -- i got far to much of
those and do not intend to add to the list just to make some comments or
corrections in a wiki.
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Maybe this answer from Andy Green helps you a bit because this question
already comes up some time ago. You only had to search this mailing list
for his response.
http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td532868
thanks for the link -- i tried to tell him that a while ago, but to no
/sys contains usually at least as many links as there are real files, i
find it rather confusing but there's probably a reason.
simply do
ls -alF
or
file
for both files
ls -alF /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron
ls -alF
I have tried it and i liked it. It was definitively faster. I might
stick with it for a while i hope.
how does it play with the dead battery issue?
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ever asked your local optician?
the usually have both the common kind (like a bubble) and the fresnel kind
(like those some cars have in the rear windows) which probably fits your
needs better (flat and thin).
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Why not? What the difference between place the magnifying glass on the
device and enable the zoom function (or switch resolution)?
having the whole screen magnified or just a section.
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what version of the panel plugin ist that? The packaged one, or the
newly released 0.5?
the debian packaged one (0.4-1.2).
didn't notice there's a new one already. was there an announcement i
missed?
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of what use is smartphone-userland if messages of this kind are not posted
there?
seems i have to subscribe to pkg-fso-maint, too, since a lot of messages
i'd expect in smartphone-userlands or even
after a few minutes the polling of at least the battery state stops --
little investigation shows an exception, because the dbusgsmstate dict
seems not to contain the key registration
Exception in thread Thread-1:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/lib/python2.5/threading.py,
On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 17:07:48 +0100, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello all,
What would be the cleanest way to shut down debian on the FR?
I have XFCE panel running. Clicking the 'lock' only allows me to log
out, leaving me at a login prompt. Keeping down the power button will
cast an init
Thomas gave me an idea with halt. I intend to make that a /etc/sudoers
command and then stick that in the XFCE menu somewhere. Maybe an easy
way to do this. :-)
if you fiddle with sudoers already the easiest way would be to do as the
link describes:
- create a group (powerdev or so)
- add
there have been a new version of the panel-plugin(since friday) which is
joachim pointed me to the posting on pkg-fso -- since it's unpredicatble
which list is used for information i also subscribed to pkg-fso now ...
also we now have a bug tracking system on
[edit] System-level improvements
what about the buzzing issue?
last thing was in august that buzzing could be literally cut off by
clipping a pin of the headset connector -- or by placing a ferrite pearl
somewhere.
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Does someone know if this kind of cable could be used to double-charge
it might work -- but the usb spec does not specify that kind of thing.
and, there's no guarantee that indeed 2x500 is drawn -- it might as well
be 1x1000 and 1x0.
those external harddisk usually only pull more then 500 for
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