chmod any file in /dev, /sys, etc. to do rdate, power
off, opkg etc (ok, for opkg I myself would prefer to be asked for root pw).
Or make apps SUID! Do we really have to repeat this annoyance yet *another*
time?
If the user *really* wants to run these apps in the way you assumed (being
pissed off
Am Fr 13. Juni 2008 schrieb AVee:
> On Thursday 12 June 2008 17:30, Leonti Bielski wrote:
> > Hi!
> > I was wondering - why are we not using forum for community?
> > It's much better to view, you can subscribe and unsubscribe to the
> > topics you want and etc.
> > The main
> > Personally I don't
Am Fr 13. Juni 2008 schrieb arne anka:
> >> Plus, forums usually have provisions for storage and selective
> >> notifications.
> >
> > you mail client doesn't store your email? wow! :)
> >
>
> do you store everry mail?
No, kmail does (since I managed to do pop3-alike msg-retrieving over imap.
I
Am Fr 13. Juni 2008 schrieb Chris Wright:
> Since the alternative to using QVGA is using VGA with a faster GPU and
> processor,
One last time:
...OR USING VGA IN QVGA MODE WITH SAME PROCESSOR, AND SWITCH TO VGA WHENEVER
YOU NEED THIS RESOLUTION.
It's all about nothing else than just saving some
es:
http://www.cinterion.com/en/ktcm/modules_terminals/gerneral_purpose/Scalable_platform/MC75i_TC63i_TC65i
Quad-band isn't a rarely found feature on this type of modules, probably it's
hard to find a module that has dual-band nowadays.
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si
Am Do 12. Juni 2008 schrieb Ken Young:
> Ron K. Jeffries wrote:
>
> > GTA03 is a fairly small re-spin of GTA02.
> > They are not doing anything very risky.
> >
> > The biggest change is a new GSM radio that
> > supports EDGE, which is much faster
> > than GPRS that GTA02 has.
>
> Do we know if t
will mainly be a Freeruner USER
> rather than developer, it may or may not
> make sense to wait for GTA03.
>
> I have ZERO repeat NO (!!)inside information,
> so I may well be totally WRONG.
There's nothing I can correct you, though I'm also not sure about many of the
details
Am Do 12. Juni 2008 schrieb Andy Loughran:
> The developers must prefer mailing lists.
>
The day these lists go web-forum, I probably have to quit my job.
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Am Do 12. Juni 2008 schrieb David Pottage:
> On Thu, June 12, 2008 3:21 pm, Bumbl wrote:
>
> > would it, in theory, be possible to emulate a 2nd sim-card which was
> > inserted and saved on the flash memory before and switch between it
> > and the inserted one?
>
> In theory this is possible if
companies are changing the algorhythm for the
implementation of KI and IMSI encryptation.
[/quote]
Do you have MORE THAN ONE simcard that's older than 6years and you still want
to use them?
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Am Do 12. Juni 2008 schrieb Bumbl:
> would it, in theory, be possible to emulate a 2nd sim-card which was
> inserted and saved on the flash memory before
> and switch between it and the inserted one?
SIM cards implement an on-board crypographic authentication mechanism that
simply can't be "dow
Am Do 12. Juni 2008 schrieb Peter Nijs:
> Isn't the shared bus an advantage because now it can use DMA? Maybe that's
> why
> it is possible to hook up an sd-card to the glamo anyway. I see no other
> explanation why one would put an sd cardreader in a graphics ship. Please
> tell me if and wh
x
concurrent sounds (like alsa dmix is supposed to do) in a way that's not
eating up our cpu-resources.
Low latency on audio means some 10 milliseconds, and is important for
musicians, maybe powergamers, but very much ot for a handheld device.
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Am Mi 11. Juni 2008 schrieb Adilson Oliveira:
> So, cells like the samsung d880 just swap electrically between the 2 SIM
> cards? The spec say you can use both cards at the same time but don't
> say exactly what "same time" means.
There are phones out there that use 2 or 3 cards true-concurrently
are good for 2 SD-cards (Actually we're short on
SD-connections at SoC). A pity, I'd like it much... Well plans change quickly
(MOTD ;), there's nothing for sure right now it seems.
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free as we would like it". Otherwise we could
have hacked the GSM-firmware. Can't be that hard, simple periodic context
switching.
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Am Mi 11. Juni 2008 schrieb ian douglas:
> As an aside, when comparing 2G and 3G:
>
> Even according to Apple, the new iPhone 3G model will get up to 10 hours
> of talk time on 2G but half as long (5 hours) in 3G mode.
>
> I'd love to learn more about how voice quality differs between 2G and 3G
full ACK
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nd now I'm definitely stopping to feed this tro.. er, thread, which btw seems
nobody is looking on the weird subject any more :-/
ETX
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way?
> > >
> > > Oh, my vote is for usb.
> > >
> >
> > I would also vote for a USB connection. Easier to set up, and the
> > peripheral can take power from the phone.
>
> It is good that the Y cable is invented:)
Was a fun and a pleasure
reenprotector sounds like a good idea to me. Best way would be to
remove the front lid (see wiki on how to do that) and place an oversized one
directly on the LCM. You may use any type of protector that meets your taste
and is large enough to cut it to fit.
Just my 2 €cent, YMMV
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Am So 8. Juni 2008 schrieb rakshat hooja:
> > We also got a camera on GTA03.
> >
> > cheers
> > jOERG
> >
> >
> >
> >
> Any specs of the camera.
This was a quote of a previous posting of another OM-engineer (Carsten IIRC).
Honestly I'm d
We also got a camera on GTA03. Changes will be significantly more noticeable
than only making a 2.5mm hole 3.5mm ;-). Let me put it this way: probably we
won't even consider to ship a lanyard for accessory. ;-)
cheers
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VGA-screen isn't much more expensive than a Q, if we can drive a VGA as Q
without problem or speed-penalty to do sane video etc., and if it's correct
we used a VGA so far - we won't change this. No way!
cheers
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screen! :-/ Just my 2 cents from HW-dev
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Am Fr 6. Juni 2008 schrieb Flyin_bbb8:
> just wanted to add, Differential GPS is mainly for aircraft GPS systems to
> get better guidance on the ILS (Instrument Landing System).
>
Aaaaha, I seen it being used for all sorts of archeology and buildings
construction purposes.
And from the info in
Am Do 5. Juni 2008 schrieb Lally Singh:
> AFAIK, the AGPS allows you to upload additional information into the
> onboard correlator (the CPU that does the actual location calculations
> for GPS) to enhance the accuracy over what you get with simple
> satellite triangulation.
It's about reducing T
Am Do 5. Juni 2008 schrieb Stroller:
>
> On 4 Jun 2008, at 18:12, Joseph Reeves wrote:
> > ...
> > TinyURL on the other hand... Why would anyone ever use that? I never
> > click on links unless I know where they link to. Here's a plan for
> > abuse:
> >
> > 1: Discover browser 0-day exploit
> > 2
Am Do 5. Juni 2008 schrieb AVee:
> On Wednesday 04 June 2008 22:55, Andy Powell wrote:
> >
> > tinyurl is useful instead of typing in twattishly long urls which many
> > sites insist on using. Generally you don;t want to click on a link
provided
> > by someone you don't know/trust. Not only that
nal CTRL-* on my mail-UA to delete all duplicates (that's kmail)
cheers
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ng this mode.
AFAIK (No Mac here)
Anyway to me it's not of this high priority to have WixXXx-compatible mass
storage. As long as things will "PnP" with all kinda *nix-systems.
so just my 2 €cent
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> | allow to upload on cameras.
> | But that should get around the exclusive access problem.
> |
> | Also there could be an image file which is shared via USB storage so no
> | need to unmount the SD card.
>
I'm just working on improving the schematics (like quite some other guys of OM
staff), but we at EE are not deciding on key features of future products, we
are provided with specs on what to design.
Anyway your suggestions and requests will be noticed when posted in this list.
cheers
have to complain about "I
dunno".
Your hardware development guy
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Am Di 3. Juni 2008 schrieb Sergey Volkov:
> Hello, openmoko community.
>
> I have a question regarding future products of Openmoko. Wiki says
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA that GTA03 is actually
Am Mo 2. Juni 2008 schrieb Michael 'Mickey' Lauer:
> On Monday 02 June 2008 11:34:07 Bin Chen wrote:
> > I am just looking at the code of gsmd2, I doubt whether a condition
> > has been processed. Suppose a command is send but during the wait time
> > of the response, another unsolicited command s
Am Mo 2. Juni 2008 schrieb Joerg Reisenweber:
> Am Mo 5. Mai 2008 schrieb steve:
> > Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=sita.openmoko.org)
> > by sita.openmoko.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50)
> > id 1K32Dg-0001Yg-F5; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 07:04:32 +0200
> &
es.
Not thoroughly checked though. Please compare format of possible unsolicited
creg-answers.
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Am Mo 5. Mai 2008 schrieb steve:
> Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=sita.openmoko.org)
> by sita.openmoko.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50)
> id 1K32Dg-0001Yg-F5; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 07:04:32 +0200
> Received: from smtp115.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([69.147.64.88])
> by sita.
Am So 1. Juni 2008 schrieb Kim Alvefur:
> On Sun, 2008-06-01 at 10:55 +0300, Ilja O. wrote:
> > Also portable self-destruction hardware would be nice.
>
> echo overload > /sys/devices/blaha/battery
>
LOL :-)
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Am Sa 31. Mai 2008 schrieb Mike Montour:
> Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
>
> >
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA01_gsm_modem#Serving_Cell_Information_.282.2C1.29
> >
> > you read this field during a call when actually transmitting audio (NO
> > silence)?
>
>
Am Sa 31. Mai 2008 schrieb Mike Montour:
> Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
> > your link: that's it
> > Thanks for sharing your thoughts and giving this link
>
> If you do choose a 4-pin 3.5mm connector to be compatible with iPhone
> (or with another major vendor), please
Am Sa 31. Mai 2008 schrieb Lally Singh:
> On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Ilja O. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Having two memory card slots (one for OS, one easy accessible for
> > usage with changeable memory cards) could be nicer than standard
> > (current) architecture. You flush o
Am Sa 31. Mai 2008 schrieb Yorick Matthys:
>
> There used to be a problem with this. AFIK jOERG mentionned it first in the
devel list:
> http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-March/001994.html
>
> Does anybody know if it has been resolved and/or if the mp3 p
Am Sa 31. Mai 2008 schrieb Mike Montour:
> Kevin Dean wrote:
>
> > I'd like to reconfirm this before reporting, or at least kill my
> > theory before reporting on it and creating a false lead. It seems that
> > the SIM itself is important.
>
> Two likely factors affecting GSM buzz are: which ban
Am Sa 31. Mai 2008 schrieb Bin Chen:
> On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 3:08 AM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Bin Chen:
> >> I am a mobile phone developer and I am looking at the GSMd application
> >> on OpenMoko. Seems all the AT command are sent to UART without waiting
> >> the
+1 ;-)
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that's been my idea when I started. But obviously there's a demand for
adapter-free 3.5 connectivity. So you probably have to use an adapter for
headsets (with mic)[see other post]. No big thing though.
Thanks for voting
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see URL in prev post. there are adapters 3.5male->2.5female
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts and giving this link
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Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Kim Alvefur:
> On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 09:16 -0400, Kevin Dean wrote:
> > 3.5 mm. I hear mention of "standard" 2.5 mm and other than my 1973 and
> > the Freerunner, I don't think I've ever seen a 2.5 mm used. Most wired
> > headsets on phones I've purchased in the past eac
otally OT, then sorry
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Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Rahul Joshi:
> The vendor of the touch panel we are using said it might be possible. But it
> would be a considerable driver effort.
I'd really like to see a pointer to this first hand info. This guy I*d like to
invite on a couple a beers and have a chat - always though
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Mike Montour:
> Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
>
> > B) classic 3.5mm headphones "Walkman(R)" connector, where you have to DIY
an
> > adapter for any standard cellphone headset? (or does anybody know of 3.5mm
> > headSET standards or adap
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Shawn:
> 1 more vote for 'B'.
>
> I'm curious, though, why the decision has to be made in such a rush for
future editions of the product?
> . . .shawn
because we're moving forward very fast ;-) You see it took long time for
GTA02, we're trying to speed up, and produc
> GTA0x (>2)
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Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Flemming Richter Mikkelsen:
> the cheaper ones. This make me worry that they might not have a
> good conductivity, which is nessecary since the Freerunner has a
> resistive touch screen.
The R-TS is BETWEEN two foils that touch each other when pressing on some
point wi
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Rahul Joshi:
> And I thought I read somewhere in wiki that the touchscreen would be similar
> if not same to the ones having multi-touch sensing "support" (which can be
> programmed to support multi-touch at some point of time). With your
> statement I can't decide if I'
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Benedikt Schindler:
> Sven Klomp schrieb:
> > 2.5mm, since I want to pick up a phone call while listening to music.
> >
> > Sven
> >
> >
>
> And that isn't possible with the actual 3.5mm headset on the GTA01 /
> 02 ???
It IS possible with the ACTUAL *2.5mm* heads
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Fabian Off:
> Hey!
>
> How does synaptics handle this? When I look at the output my touchpad does,
I can see "X Y Fingers" Values... Maybe we could look into this code and see
how they do detect the amount of fingers? Dunno whether they work nearly the
same, but I be
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Andy Green:
> Somebody in the thread at some point said:
> |> I still think that wired headsets are not used by anyone out there.
> Even if
> |> every vendor adds a cheap wired headset to it's device I barely see
> anyone
> |> using it.
> |> Today bluetooth headsets are
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb niclone:
> Joerg Reisenweber a écrit :
> > Hi community!
> > A short poll: on a future GTA0x (>2), would you prefer to have
> > A) "standard" 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy
a
> > cheap adapter if you
ively flexible material may have a
decent thickness if you only need finger-touch precision.
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hones "Walkman(R)" connector, where you have to DIY an
adapter for any standard cellphone headset? (or does anybody know of 3.5mm
headSET standards or adapters?)
please hurry to vote, we have to make a decision. Thanks
cheers
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Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño):
> ian douglas wrote:
> > I think that knowing a "best case scenario" (where you stay in the same
> > location), you get about 6 hours of talk time, is still helpful. Cell
> > phone manufacturers typically report a "best case scenario" when
>
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb AVee:
> This test might not even be 'best case'. A better test would be having the
Neo
> really close to the cell tower for optimal conditions. I guess the
difference
> between testing far away from the cell tower and testing close to the tower
> might be pretty big
o basestation is much more
important. Here you should check for *very* good RF-signal, means very near
to BS and thus allowing the phone-transmitter to power down to lowest level.
Also note that GSM without simcard is constantly reselecting cells, so energy
consumption is really bad. Switch of
from the base station. All we can reasonably do is compare same-tester
> results for their different phones from the same physical location.
Yep! exactly, due to tx-power calibration, cell-handover etc.
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> > allow other devices to detect an available network, but sending beacon
> > would be a battery drain anyway.
>
> Assuming the use case made sense, the Freerunner could be powered
> externally.
>
bly meassures the R *between* the 2 foils. IIRC that
couldn't be done with GTA01, but is maybe feasible with GTA02. It would give
some additional info to maybe distinguish multitouch from gesture. I already
said I'll have a look at it some day...
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Am Do 29. Mai 2008 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> Hi Joerg,
> as it seems that my mail did not reach the community list (I am not a
subscriber, just monitoring the archives) may I ask you directly the question
regarding "multi tutch" :-) . See below:
>
>
> Hi all,
&
a
softmac stack.
A much more interesting point: where is the firmware to download to our
Atheros-chip. (NO, no flamewar on free firmware|no firmware again!). Just a
simple question: do we have any way to reflash the FW?
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will take less than one day to build my own personalized image
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Am Do 29. Mai 2008 schrieb Michael Shiloh:
>
> Andy Green wrote:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > Somebody in the thread at some point said:
> > | Am Mi 28. Mai 2008 schrieb Brad Midgley:
> > |> Joerg
> > |>
>
hmmm you really have a talent to ask interesting questions
dunno... yet
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Am Mi 28. Mai 2008 schrieb Andy Green:
> Somebody in the thread at some point said:
> | Am Mi 28. Mai 2008 schrieb Brad Midgley:
> |> Joerg
> |>
> |> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 2:30 AM, Joerg Reisenweber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | wrote:
> |>> Am Mi 28. Mai
you are not supposed to correct each single keystroke - just like on T9.
Simply type ahead and *in the end* select from list the word you tried to
type, probably that's nearest to _all_ of your physical keystrokes PLUS some
recent/most-used-factor.
If I got that right, Raster?
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Am Do 29. Mai 2008 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño):
> In this Linuxtag report [1] (google translated here [2]) there are not
> so good news about production :/
> Can you share with us something more Steve?
>
> Bye
>
> [1] http://tinyurl.com/6rs6j2
> [2] http://tinyurl.com/643y64
>
> --
> Tre
gt; modify. Package-based toolchain is the perfect, lean basis for this.
>
> -Andy
>
>
ACK!!! 110%
gentoo is a weird approach, that discourages potential devs from giving it a
shot. :-(
my 0.02€
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Am Mi 28. Mai 2008 schrieb thomasg:
> The capacitive touchscreen of the Freerunner only detects a single point and
FR has a resistive TS
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hackerish tricks to get a little more of
info out of this design, but for now: NO not possible.
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Am Mi 28. Mai 2008 schrieb Brad Midgley:
> Joerg
>
> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 2:30 AM, Joerg Reisenweber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > Am Mi 28. Mai 2008 schrieb Brad Midgley:
> >> i think it may still be up in the air
>
> > Nope it's not, see Y-ca
can register for the same events like dialer and talk to gsmd concurrently to
dialer, which shouldn't have to say much as long as it's not triggered by
user-interaction.
Again, please note: I have not the slightest idea yet of all this, just doing
hw for gta03+, no time for recent
r's battery.
Nope it's not, see Y-cable in wiki. Should work perfectly. You just have to
find the 5pin-mini-USB-plug to DIY one.
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r channel of wired headset. Sorry I was to late to stop this for
GTA02 - wonder about ringtones :-/ When I forget to pull out the headphones
when throwing FR on the table; or when I connect FR to my stereo to play
music and a call comes in...)
The rest sounds good to me. Just curious about the FM-connec
d. Alternatively there may be a bug in the OpenMoko software that
> runs and interprets that AT command.
>
> --
> David Pottage
Exactly (point #1). The raw AT-cmds aren't mangled by any OM-sw (libgsmd-tool,
atcmd) AFAIK.
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Am Mo 26. Mai 2008 schrieb Steffen Winkler:
> stupid question: but for what stands "ASU"?
Abgas Sonder Untersuchung - hey you're no German guy?! ;-)
maybe we should find a better name - yea it's hard with all these Spanish and
German ambiguities. Let's wait and see what's next... LOL. Siemens
and ground. Does this also apply to the GTA01, i.e.,
> is it worth hacking up a cable for that model?
47k (no need for 48k-1% ;) detection is defined and built in to the hardware
of GTA01 as well - just checked the "old" schematics and datasheets.
Dunno whether the sw is handling it
Am Fr 16. Mai 2008 schrieb Al Johnson:
> On Friday 16 May 2008, ramsesoriginal wrote:
> > I was just wondering: we have seen the problems of encryptingcalls.
> > But what about decrypting them? Let*s say someone hasa method to call
> > you with some sort of encryption.. would it be possible to wri
; thing to have a decent lib API defined
from the very beginning - see KDE addressbook, other resources of Kontact and
the neverending story about the *abc*-libs to use them from "outside". LDAP,
WebDAV/GroupDAV and even IMAP resources come to mind :-/. Have a look to
Kontact|contacts|resour
will inevitably change length of
vector, whereas with rotation the g always stays with natural g of earth.
Anyway, to get somewhat exact real 3 axis rotation info even in deep space
where no earth-g to be seen anymore, you need a set of gyros or at least 3
g-meters mounted non-aligned and far f
Am Mi 7. Mai 2008 schrieb David Samblas Martinez:
> And why not implement a "execute command" option in
> the PIM Task Manager(Schedule)?
> If the neo will be able to wake up to play a sound
> and/or buzz, I suppose it can execute a shell command
> and sleep again when finished.
The interesting
Am Mi 7. Mai 2008 schrieb Mo Abrahams:
> Nope, not me
>
yep, this very one was twice
/j
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Am Mi 7. Mai 2008 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño):
> Ryan Prior wrote:
> > Perhaps "phone-cron" needs to be written, to take anacron to the level
> > of task flexibility required for modern cell phones. Cron and anacron
> > are crusty old beasts - we need something fresh and sharp.
>
> Talking
ty much feasible
If you really want to do that, ask me for details of the FPC-cable signals and
pins, to build your own "LCM" that plugs to the PCB-connector instead of the
NEO one.
/jOERG
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Am Di 6. Mai 2008 schrieb Lally Singh:
> I didn't think Skype ran on the openmoko stack. Please, pretty
> please, tell me that I'm wrong :-D
Nope, right! So forget about skype, use plain SIP!
/j
>
> On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 5:45 AM, Ganesha Krishna
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
The display? OR the projector?
maybe they have no USB at all ;-)
Read it again!
/j
Am Di 6. Mai 2008 schrieb Alexander Frøyseth:
> no
> USB1.1
> nickd skrev:
> > bear in mind it's only usb 1.0
> > -nick
> >
> > Ian Darwin wrote:
> >>
> - not being able to connect a VGA-over-USB
> >>
> >>
your GTA01 back panel fit on an A02?.
Think so, no visible difference. (not tested yet, at least by me)
/jOERG
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Am Mo 5. Mai 2008 schrieb Alexander Frøyseth:
> And one more question, will the be included a memory card?
AFAIK there will
/j
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r Brenda and say "keep going" and thumbs up for making such a good job of
it!
>
> 做得好!
>
> :)
ACK!
The new wiki-mainpage is way better than what it was before.
Thanks Brenda! :-)
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vely
> cannot be found in a shop and I guess this involves a cutter and some
> dirty electronics to make one.
And a rare 5-pin mini-usb-jack to access the ID-pin :-/ (for the 47k)
>
> I hope I'm making this clearer, and wonder what we can expect in the
> final package ?
/jOERG
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