Re: FSO, Navit and more
Not yet. I'am not sure if I have yet an account. I will file a bug report next time... Lothar sledge wrote: Hello, lollisoft wrote: Navit: What I am missing is the fact that the keyboard is still a bit unusable when not in landscape mode. I cannot get all keys pressed. Trying the system keyboard as for other applications doesn't work anyhow. Is there a bug track available on this issue somewhere, so we would be able to track/comment it together and even maybe contribute? Thank you, -- sledge -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/FSO%2C-Navit-and-more-tp2105544p2145763.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO, Navit and more
I have an account (Lollisoft), but lost my password. The trac seems to not have a lost password link. Did it ? Lothar lollisoft wrote: Not yet. I'am not sure if I have yet an account. I will file a bug report next time... Lothar sledge wrote: Hello, lollisoft wrote: Navit: What I am missing is the fact that the keyboard is still a bit unusable when not in landscape mode. I cannot get all keys pressed. Trying the system keyboard as for other applications doesn't work anyhow. Is there a bug track available on this issue somewhere, so we would be able to track/comment it together and even maybe contribute? Thank you, -- sledge -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/FSO%2C-Navit-and-more-tp2105544p2145806.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] Speed gps time to firxt fix up?
Yes, it may be a mistake to have both installed. That time it was possible to do. Yesterday an error message came up about incompatibility. The developers may have added these checks while I am playing :-) Today I'll try my assumtions why the GPS is not as good as Om2008/9. As I have stated I have a new microsd card. Thus changing too much is not good for finding the reason why the GPS is that bad. So I will have tests with combinations of cards and FSO-image / Om2008/9 to see what happens. As a note to the images and that I have read something about cherry picking to add into yet published releases: I do not find this a good practice. Do you ? Lothar Fox Mulder wrote: lollisoft wrote: The answer from Fox was to reinstall gpsd and not fso-gpsd and later he went back. So I tried this and struggled. Fox was also not on the FSO image, but on the Debian with FSO framework. Maybe he could do that but I am not (FSO image). I think bebause of Zhune. Maybe you misunderstood me because i never said to reinstall gpsd and not fso-gpsd. I only said that i was having a hard time with older fso-gpsd but now it works quite good. And i said that you should be sure not to have both installed at the same time. Only fso-gpsd is useable when using the fso-framework. And we both use fso-framework, you with fso-image and me with debian. And therefore the principles for gps configuration are the same. I hope we are now back to a common ground. :) Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-FSO--Speed-gps-time-to-firxt-fix-up--tp2105634p2112547.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Database applications practical on mobile device ?
I am glad to read this :-) My project is far away from being comparable with GNU enterprise. But it will do basic things for database applications. I will describe a bit more what the project is capable: First, I think about how a developer could do application development. Therefore I found, that UML is a good starting point to model a basic ER like database design. But it is more a class design, because while start designing, I also be capable to specify more than 'tables' and it's relations. I also capable of specifying what relation also has a button on the screen to jump to (based on the relation). That way I could define simple actions like the master detail forms or detail master forms. If the UML model (first design step) is ready to try, just export as XMI 1.4 and do import into my application. Then restart and test the application (it has also created a database schema as of postgresql or sqlite). So you could test the application with it's fields and discuss about probably missing fields or some other physical data related issues (type of field,...). If that step is done, you have the following choices: Export to XML and use XSLT to translate the model to whatever you want (eg. Python). I plan a commercial module that does the step at once and other features. (My code is LGPL licensed) Lothar Joseph Reeves wrote: Hi Lother, I'm part of a small team currently working on database applications for the FreeRunner. We would be extremely interested in your work. The most attractive solution we've seen so far is GNU Enterprise Tools, although I have had little luck making this work on the phone. We would prefer to use a GUI generated with wxPython, but my brief attempts to get it running on Openmoko failed. I decided to try a GTK interface, but was unable to satisfy GNUE's requirement of Egenix DateTime. We plan to run Sqlite on the phone with data entered via whatever interface we can make work best. We will be synchronising this on phone database with a postgesql database in our data centre using a version of SqlSync we're currently working on. We would be very interested in evaluating / contributing to your application. Best regards, Joseph 2009/1/5 lollisoft lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de: Hi, I like to ask if anyone is wishing to have some database applications on their phone. Or would it practical on such a small device ? I am a developer of an rapid database prototyper capable of generating any source code when prototyping is finished. Thus it will save a lot time when having templates. It's based on wxWidgets and I have seen these libraries on my FR some time ago. Thanks Lothar -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Database-applications-practical-on-mobile-device---tp2112633p2112633.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Database-applications-practical-on-mobile-device---tp2112633p2113095.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO-image milestone 4.1] gpsd instead of fso-gpsd installed on a fresh image ?
So I do simply replace gpsd by fso-gpsd for now, or is there more to do ? Otoh, I'll wait for the next release or as documented in trac roadmap (milestone6: 'ogpsd finishing touches') ? I'd ask because I like to use navit / tangogps. Thanks for that fast answer. Lothar Stefan Schmidt wrote: Hello. On Mon, 2009-01-05 at 04:58, lollisoft wrote: as of other issues that when using FSO, fso-gpsd should be used and not gpsd I am confused about installed gpsd on my fresh image from http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-testing/images/om-gta02/openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20090104-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 That one is a testing image based on 4.1 but with newer fixes and as you found out also regressions. :) Why is gpsd installed when it will not work with FSO ? It's a regression we have in OE while building the image. It is not as easy as we thought. Shouldn't fso-gpsd installed per default on that image ? It should and we will fix this. Sadly it is not proper fixable in a fast way. Needs more thinking. regards Stefan Schmidt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-FSO-image-milestone-4.1--gpsd-instead-of-fso-gpsd-installed-on-a-fresh-image---tp2112765p2112944.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Database applications practical on mobile device ?
Yes, I have seen that sqlite is used. I do support sqlite out of the box, but do bring my own copy of sqlite database library (I think the amalgan version). It would be interesting, if I could get some python samples or have a look in the right application code :-) Python would then be a starting point were I could investigate. Porting my code seems to be more work because I haven't yet setup a development machine for my FR and I am sure having to integrate my home brewed makefile based build system into mokomake based build system. Generating code for database applications still could be done on desktop, so porting my project is not really a must have. See here for more: http://sourceforge.net/projects/lbdmf It contains the prototyper as the main sample application. Lothar Al Johnson wrote: On Monday 05 January 2009, lollisoft wrote: Hi, I like to ask if anyone is wishing to have some database applications on their phone. Or would it practical on such a small device ? I am a developer of an rapid database prototyper capable of generating any source code when prototyping is finished. Thus it will save a lot time when having templates. It's based on wxWidgets and I have seen these libraries on my FR some time ago. Thanks Lothar I'm sure people would find something to do with an app a bit like the Data app from the Psion 5, or even something more fully featured. It should be perfectly practical both from a power and GUI point of view. sqlite already runs on the OM, and is extensively used in qtopia/QtExtended. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Database-applications-practical-on-mobile-device---tp2112633p2112993.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FSO-image milestone 4.1] gpsd instead of fso-gpsd installed on a fresh image ?
Hi, as of other issues that when using FSO, fso-gpsd should be used and not gpsd I am confused about installed gpsd on my fresh image from http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-testing/images/om-gta02/openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20090104-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 Why is gpsd installed when it will not work with FSO ? Shouldn't fso-gpsd installed per default on that image ? Thanks Lothar -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-FSO-image-milestone-4.1--gpsd-instead-of-fso-gpsd-installed-on-a-fresh-image---tp2112765p2112765.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Database applications practical on mobile device ?
Hi, I like to ask if anyone is wishing to have some database applications on their phone. Or would it practical on such a small device ? I am a developer of an rapid database prototyper capable of generating any source code when prototyping is finished. Thus it will save a lot time when having templates. It's based on wxWidgets and I have seen these libraries on my FR some time ago. Thanks Lothar -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Database-applications-practical-on-mobile-device---tp2112633p2112633.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using mplayer with seme desktop symbols for streaming stations and wlan :-)
I think that the problem of the error message is not killing mplayer, but the outer script gets reported to stop unexpectly. Propably there should be implemented a signal handler. Lothar Chris Samuel wrote: On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 11:17:56 am Daniel Nöthen wrote: What you probably mean is the killall -SIGKILL command which kills the process without giving it the chance for run any cleanup routines. It depends on what the programmer has specified signal handlers for, so if they'd coded something just to deal with a user getting disconnected (SIGHUP) but not for ^C (SIGTERM) then you're better off sending that program SIGHUP rather than SIGTERM. Not to mention submitting a patch make it handle SIGTERM too.. ;-) Fortunately mplayer does the right thing in this case. -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Using-mplayer-with-seme-desktop-symbols-for-streaming-stations-and-wlan-%3A-%29-tp2107090p2108651.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Navit] Installation fails on fso image from today (2009-04-01)
Hi, I have installed the current testing image of FSO from today and getting the following error: echo src navit http://download.navit-project.org/navit/openmoko/svn /etc/opkg/navit-feed.conf opkg update opkg install navit Installing navit (svn-1885) to root... Downloading http://download.navit-project.org/navit/openmoko/svn/navit-svn-1885_armv4t.opk navit: unsatisfied recommendation for speechd navit: unsatisfied recommendation for flite Collected errors: * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for navit: * gtk+-fastscaling (= 2.10.14) * r...@om-gta02:~# What am I doing wrong ? Thanks Lothar -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-Navit--Installation-fails-on-fso-image-from-today-%282009-04-01%29-tp2109272p2109272.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] Speed gps time to firxt fix up?
With the image from today in testing I get a fix and it seems to work. But with tangogps I then indeed get the message 'no gps found'. I have looked if gpsd is running but none of gpsd or fso-gpsd is running. Starting it with 'gpsd /dev/ttySAC1' works for me. Now I'll try navit while getting a Döner :-) Lothar lollisoft wrote: Using sdcard for debian may be no problem. What I currently don't know, is if I still can use uBoot or have to install Qi with seems may fail. I don't want to kill the boot manager accidantly and then be unable to reflash :-) But this is RTFM I must do :-( BTW, I have a 16GB card that is working - at least seen with navit accessing the germany.bin file :-) Currently I download the new FSO image from today to see if there are no more problems with GPS. What has been failed is upgrading from 4.1 to testing as I then no more have any XServer or GUI :-( Lothar Fox Mulder wrote: If the versions are compareable than it seems that your fso-frameworkd is newer (0.8.4.40.8.4.3) and fso-gpsd is older (0.70.8). The only thing i know is that i had much problems with older fso-gpsd versions and now it works without problems. Maybe this is a point where you could investigate. Debian uses the complete fso framework inclusive zhone as phone application. I prefer debian because i have access to much more programs than with any other distro. Even things like openoffice, wireshark, firefox etc is available for the freerunner in debian. :) The other side is that it doesn't fit into the 256MB nand flash. The default install uses nearly 1GB but there seems to be people who tries to fit a slimed version into nand. But for me this is no problem if i have to install it on my sd-card (8GB). In return i have a full linux with normal windowmanager and all possibilities i want and need. The downside of this is that it is slower and consumes more memory than most other distros. I think with a bit less ressource hungry windowmanager it will improve quite a bit. But at the moment i use xfce with all nice extras. ;) Good thing is that i have one distro in nand and debian on my sd-card. So i can boot what i want when i want. Ciao, Rainer lollisoft wrote: Sorry, my post should look like this :-) That's what I see when list installed: r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list_installed | grep gps fso-gpsd - 0.7+gitr8f82d35ae83fdc00f2c4786257e98551b9dea995-r0.1 - tangogps - 0.9.3-r3.1 - r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list_installed | grep framework frameworkd - 0.8.4.4+gitrbfddd4c28c6dc9d211f1cd78bb4acdafde1aa438-r0.1 - frameworkd-config - 0.8.4.4+gitrbfddd4c28c6dc9d211f1cd78bb4acdafde1aa438-r0.1 - r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list_installed | grep fso fso-gpsd - 0.7+gitr8f82d35ae83fdc00f2c4786257e98551b9dea995-r0.1 - fso-sounds - 0.0.1+gitrb24d3c2e66fee10a5e288101cd1b6f5bbd3da7e2-r0.1 - task-fso-compliance - 1.0-r1.1 - r...@om-gta02:~# uname -a Linux om-gta02 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Tue Nov 18 18:04:32 CET 2008 armv4tl unknown And - I am not using debian. My OS is FSO milestone 4.1 aka 'more homework'. Another question: Has debian also the possibility to run Zhone ? Do you prefer debian before FSO ? Is debian as small to fit in internal flash (not on /media/card) ? This phone software is compact and therefore fast. Thanks Lothar Fox Mulder wrote: I use debian with fso and when i install fso-gpsd no gpsd is installed as dependency because it would make no sense. Fso-gpsd IS the gpsd compatibility wrapper which does the same what gpsd does for the client applications. So be sure not to have fso-gpsd and gpsd installed. Both programs try to access the gps which doesn't work. My current version of fso-gpsd in debian is 0.8-2 and my fso-frameworkd is 0.8.4.3-20081215-1. Both are from the official debian repository. lollisoft wrote: I haven't success. My FSO is the 'more homework' version 4.1. Installing gpsd really installs fso-gpsd. Installing tangogps complains about having two versions matching gpsg, eg. the fso-gpsd and the compatibility (gpsd) wrapper that seems to be installed with fso-gpsd. What version do you use exactly (image locations) ? Tahnks Lothar lollisoft wrote: Thanks, I'll try that too. Also when the connections to the port are more than 0 it could be useful to disabling illume to lower the brightness and the like. Is this possible within a script ? Lothar Fox Mulder wrote: I did nothing special. I only deinstalled gpsd and installed fso-gpsd. Some time ago fso-gpsd wasn't working good at all. But a few weeks ago i tried again to replace gpsd with fso-gpsd and since than it works ok. Interesting is that with fso-gpsd the gps chip is activated as soon as a connection to the fso-gpsd port is opened. And it is deactivated when the last connection closes. This feature has pros and cons but at the moment i like it. :) Ciao, Rainer
Re: A simple wifi solution for FSO ...
Hi, I haven't the wpa-conf executable on my FSO 4.1. Also I have grepped for it with opkg list | grep wpa. Where did I get this script / application ? With this and with more than one configuration in wpa_supplicant.conf, do I get a uninteruptable wlan, if both wlans are in the same house while I am walking around in it ? Meaning, I listen to a shoutcast stream witn mplayer :-) Thanks Lothar Samuel Pereira wrote: nice idea - it would be even nicer if it could be consolidated into one script, which checks the current state of the network devices, and switches the two to their opposite state. one less icon on the desktop I already have done this, you can check and download a file here http://blog.samuelpereira.net/?p=4 Thanks, Samuel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/A-simple-wifi-solution-for-FSO-...-tp2106354p2108781.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using mplayer with seme desktop symbols for streaming stations and wlan :-)
This is not required. It seems that the feeds are set up a little bit later. Now I am listening again :-) Lothar Peter Nijs wrote: I've seen one in the angstom-distribution's repo. depeje On Sunday 04 January 2009 15:30:13 lollisoft wrote: Hi, I am sad. The new version in testing from today does not contain an installable mplayer. Where must I go to download one for my FR ? Thanks Lothar kimaidou wrote: Hi Guys I am using a shell script on Ubuntu which uses mplayer to play internet (streaming) radio stations. I attached the script in this email. I haven't yet tried it on the freerunner, but I should probably work. It has been written by french people, so the radio are french ones, but it can be adapted. Happy new year 2009/1/4 lollisoft lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de I think that the problem of the error message is not killing mplayer, but the outer script gets reported to stop unexpectly. Propably there should be implemented a signal handler. Lothar Chris Samuel wrote: On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 11:17:56 am Daniel Nöthen wrote: What you probably mean is the killall -SIGKILL command which kills the process without giving it the chance for run any cleanup routines. It depends on what the programmer has specified signal handlers for, so if they'd coded something just to deal with a user getting disconnected (SIGHUP) but not for ^C (SIGTERM) then you're better off sending that program SIGHUP rather than SIGTERM. Not to mention submitting a patch make it handle SIGTERM too.. ;-) Fortunately mplayer does the right thing in this case. -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Using-mplayer-with-seme-desktop-symbols-for-streami ng-stations-and-wlan-%3A-%29-tp2107090p2108651.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Using-mplayer-with-seme-desktop-symbols-for-streaming-stations-and-wlan-%3A-%29-tp2107090p2109631.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GPS looses fix too early (inhouse)
Hi, I have had Om2008/9 before FSO and with that I had also not my new SDHC card (16GB). With that differences in mind: What could I do to check why the GPS seems to be less stable than before ? Get the clock speed for both cards to compare, if they are different ? When different, reducing clock speed of new SD card ? Or is there still an issue with the current FSO image from today ? My phone is a FR with hardware fix for the SD card issue. Thanks Lothar -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/GPS-looses-fix-too-early-%28inhouse%29-tp2110015p2110015.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car Charger?
Just an idea, I haven't seen quickly which car charger or other charger works without more than yust pluging it into the USB slot. A table stating this would be quite good :-) Using the 12V/220V converter is another option - even a more universal one :-) Another question: Does someone have seen a docking station like item to place the phone when driving with navigation. This could also have a built in car charger :-) Thanks Lothar Olivier Berger wrote: Gothnet openm...@nastylittlehorse.net writes: Has anyone found a car charger that would work to supply power to the FR running as a navigation aid? Hi. I suppose that you might find interesting hints (or improve it when you've found what you need) in : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_charger I myself used this model : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_charger#sold_as_.22Essentiel_b_.28Boulanger.29.22_Chargeur_allume-cigares.2FUSB but I assume you won't find the same in an australian store :( Regards, -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Car-Charger--tp2106770p2108815.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (OM2008.12) Blackness
Did you have waited a while ? Choosen also the right uImage ? Lothar Paul-8 wrote: Hi all, I know, I am going through distro's like crazy, but that's how I am. I flashed OM2008.12 but I can't keep it going. It boots, and after something like only 30 seconds it already blanks the screen and plays dead. Is there some setting I can adjust quickly to keep it working? Paul -- Better than a thousand days of diligent study is one day with a great teacher. -Japanese proverb http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2009 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/%28OM2008.12%29-Blackness-tp2109101p2109115.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] Speed gps time to firxt fix up?
That's what I see when list installed: r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list_installed | grep gps fso-gpsd - 0.7+gitr8f82d35ae83fdc00f2c4786257e98551b9dea995-r0.1 - tangogps - 0.9.3-r3.1 - r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list_installed | grep framework frameworkd - 0.8.4.4+gitrbfddd4c28c6dc9d211f1cd78bb4acdafde1aa438-r0.1 - frameworkd-config - 0.8.4.4+gitrbfddd4c28c6dc9d211f1cd78bb4acdafde1aa438-r0.1 - r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list_installed | grep fso fso-gpsd - 0.7+gitr8f82d35ae83fdc00f2c4786257e98551b9dea995-r0.1 - fso-sounds - 0.0.1+gitrb24d3c2e66fee10a5e288101cd1b6f5bbd3da7e2-r0.1 - task-fso-compliance - 1.0-r1.1 - r...@om-gta02:~# uname -a Linux om-gta02 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Tue Nov 18 18:04:32 CET 2008 armv4tl unknown Fox Mulder wrote: I use debian with fso and when i install fso-gpsd no gpsd is installed as dependency because it would make no sense. Fso-gpsd IS the gpsd compatibility wrapper which does the same what gpsd does for the client applications. So be sure not to have fso-gpsd and gpsd installed. Both programs try to access the gps which doesn't work. My current version of fso-gpsd in debian is 0.8-2 and my fso-frameworkd is 0.8.4.3-20081215-1. Both are from the official debian repository. And - I am not using debian. My OS is FSO milestone 4.1 aka 'more homework'. Another question: Has debian also the possibility to run Zhone ? Do you prefer debian before FSO ? Is debian as small to fit in internal flash (not on /media/card) ? This phone software is compact and therefore fast. Thanks Lothar lollisoft wrote: I haven't success. My FSO is the 'more homework' version 4.1. Installing gpsd really installs fso-gpsd. Installing tangogps complains about having two versions matching gpsg, eg. the fso-gpsd and the compatibility (gpsd) wrapper that seems to be installed with fso-gpsd. What version do you use exactly (image locations) ? Tahnks Lothar lollisoft wrote: Thanks, I'll try that too. Also when the connections to the port are more than 0 it could be useful to disabling illume to lower the brightness and the like. Is this possible within a script ? Lothar Fox Mulder wrote: I did nothing special. I only deinstalled gpsd and installed fso-gpsd. Some time ago fso-gpsd wasn't working good at all. But a few weeks ago i tried again to replace gpsd with fso-gpsd and since than it works ok. Interesting is that with fso-gpsd the gps chip is activated as soon as a connection to the fso-gpsd port is opened. And it is deactivated when the last connection closes. This feature has pros and cons but at the moment i like it. :) Ciao, Rainer lollisoft wrote: Hi, what did you made to get GPS working in general ? See my post about GPS ... Thanks Lothar Fox Mulder wrote: Since a few weeks i'm using fso-gpsd without any big problems so far. The only problem is that the TTFF (time to first fix) is always 1 minute and sometimes it needs quite a lot of time. The only solution for me to be sure to get a fix within 30 sec is to use the agps tool which downloads the almanac and ephemeris from ublox for my region. The problem is, that the gps chip doesn't have any internal memory why it needs to download all relevant gps data every time it is powered up. So i thought if it is possible to save the relevant gps data before shutting down the gps which can be done by fso-gpsd or kernel automatically. Than after starting the gps fso-gpsd/kernel feeds back the data to speed up the TTFF. This would be the same way most gps receivers work. Maybe this is already implemented somewhere but i don't think so because the TTFF without agps is always quite slow. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-FSO--Speed-gps-time-to-firxt-fix-up--tp2105634p2108853.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] Speed gps time to firxt fix up?
Using sdcard for debian may be no problem. What I currently don't know, is if I still can use uBoot or have to install Qi with seems may fail. I don't want to kill the boot manager accidantly and then be unable to reflash :-) But this is RTFM I must do :-( BTW, I have a 16GB card that is working - at least seen with navit accessing the germany.bin file :-) Currently I download the new FSO image from today to see if there are no more problems with GPS. What has been failed is upgrading from 4.1 to testing as I then no more have any XServer or GUI :-( Lothar Fox Mulder wrote: If the versions are compareable than it seems that your fso-frameworkd is newer (0.8.4.40.8.4.3) and fso-gpsd is older (0.70.8). The only thing i know is that i had much problems with older fso-gpsd versions and now it works without problems. Maybe this is a point where you could investigate. Debian uses the complete fso framework inclusive zhone as phone application. I prefer debian because i have access to much more programs than with any other distro. Even things like openoffice, wireshark, firefox etc is available for the freerunner in debian. :) The other side is that it doesn't fit into the 256MB nand flash. The default install uses nearly 1GB but there seems to be people who tries to fit a slimed version into nand. But for me this is no problem if i have to install it on my sd-card (8GB). In return i have a full linux with normal windowmanager and all possibilities i want and need. The downside of this is that it is slower and consumes more memory than most other distros. I think with a bit less ressource hungry windowmanager it will improve quite a bit. But at the moment i use xfce with all nice extras. ;) Good thing is that i have one distro in nand and debian on my sd-card. So i can boot what i want when i want. Ciao, Rainer lollisoft wrote: Sorry, my post should look like this :-) That's what I see when list installed: r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list_installed | grep gps fso-gpsd - 0.7+gitr8f82d35ae83fdc00f2c4786257e98551b9dea995-r0.1 - tangogps - 0.9.3-r3.1 - r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list_installed | grep framework frameworkd - 0.8.4.4+gitrbfddd4c28c6dc9d211f1cd78bb4acdafde1aa438-r0.1 - frameworkd-config - 0.8.4.4+gitrbfddd4c28c6dc9d211f1cd78bb4acdafde1aa438-r0.1 - r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list_installed | grep fso fso-gpsd - 0.7+gitr8f82d35ae83fdc00f2c4786257e98551b9dea995-r0.1 - fso-sounds - 0.0.1+gitrb24d3c2e66fee10a5e288101cd1b6f5bbd3da7e2-r0.1 - task-fso-compliance - 1.0-r1.1 - r...@om-gta02:~# uname -a Linux om-gta02 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Tue Nov 18 18:04:32 CET 2008 armv4tl unknown And - I am not using debian. My OS is FSO milestone 4.1 aka 'more homework'. Another question: Has debian also the possibility to run Zhone ? Do you prefer debian before FSO ? Is debian as small to fit in internal flash (not on /media/card) ? This phone software is compact and therefore fast. Thanks Lothar Fox Mulder wrote: I use debian with fso and when i install fso-gpsd no gpsd is installed as dependency because it would make no sense. Fso-gpsd IS the gpsd compatibility wrapper which does the same what gpsd does for the client applications. So be sure not to have fso-gpsd and gpsd installed. Both programs try to access the gps which doesn't work. My current version of fso-gpsd in debian is 0.8-2 and my fso-frameworkd is 0.8.4.3-20081215-1. Both are from the official debian repository. lollisoft wrote: I haven't success. My FSO is the 'more homework' version 4.1. Installing gpsd really installs fso-gpsd. Installing tangogps complains about having two versions matching gpsg, eg. the fso-gpsd and the compatibility (gpsd) wrapper that seems to be installed with fso-gpsd. What version do you use exactly (image locations) ? Tahnks Lothar lollisoft wrote: Thanks, I'll try that too. Also when the connections to the port are more than 0 it could be useful to disabling illume to lower the brightness and the like. Is this possible within a script ? Lothar Fox Mulder wrote: I did nothing special. I only deinstalled gpsd and installed fso-gpsd. Some time ago fso-gpsd wasn't working good at all. But a few weeks ago i tried again to replace gpsd with fso-gpsd and since than it works ok. Interesting is that with fso-gpsd the gps chip is activated as soon as a connection to the fso-gpsd port is opened. And it is deactivated when the last connection closes. This feature has pros and cons but at the moment i like it. :) Ciao, Rainer lollisoft wrote: Hi, what did you made to get GPS working in general ? See my post about GPS ... Thanks Lothar Fox Mulder wrote: Since a few weeks i'm using fso-gpsd without any big problems so far. The only problem is that the TTFF (time to first fix) is always 1 minute and sometimes it needs quite a lot of time. The only solution for me
Re: Using mplayer with seme desktop symbols for streaming stations and wlan :-)
Hi, I am sad. The new version in testing from today does not contain an installable mplayer. Where must I go to download one for my FR ? Thanks Lothar kimaidou wrote: Hi Guys I am using a shell script on Ubuntu which uses mplayer to play internet (streaming) radio stations. I attached the script in this email. I haven't yet tried it on the freerunner, but I should probably work. It has been written by french people, so the radio are french ones, but it can be adapted. Happy new year 2009/1/4 lollisoft lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de I think that the problem of the error message is not killing mplayer, but the outer script gets reported to stop unexpectly. Propably there should be implemented a signal handler. Lothar Chris Samuel wrote: On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 11:17:56 am Daniel Nöthen wrote: What you probably mean is the killall -SIGKILL command which kills the process without giving it the chance for run any cleanup routines. It depends on what the programmer has specified signal handlers for, so if they'd coded something just to deal with a user getting disconnected (SIGHUP) but not for ^C (SIGTERM) then you're better off sending that program SIGHUP rather than SIGTERM. Not to mention submitting a patch make it handle SIGTERM too.. ;-) Fortunately mplayer does the right thing in this case. -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Using-mplayer-with-seme-desktop-symbols-for-streaming-stations-and-wlan-%3A-%29-tp2107090p2108651.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Using-mplayer-with-seme-desktop-symbols-for-streaming-stations-and-wlan-%3A-%29-tp2107090p2109195.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] Speed gps time to firxt fix up?
Sorry, my post should look like this :-) That's what I see when list installed: r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list_installed | grep gps fso-gpsd - 0.7+gitr8f82d35ae83fdc00f2c4786257e98551b9dea995-r0.1 - tangogps - 0.9.3-r3.1 - r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list_installed | grep framework frameworkd - 0.8.4.4+gitrbfddd4c28c6dc9d211f1cd78bb4acdafde1aa438-r0.1 - frameworkd-config - 0.8.4.4+gitrbfddd4c28c6dc9d211f1cd78bb4acdafde1aa438-r0.1 - r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list_installed | grep fso fso-gpsd - 0.7+gitr8f82d35ae83fdc00f2c4786257e98551b9dea995-r0.1 - fso-sounds - 0.0.1+gitrb24d3c2e66fee10a5e288101cd1b6f5bbd3da7e2-r0.1 - task-fso-compliance - 1.0-r1.1 - r...@om-gta02:~# uname -a Linux om-gta02 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Tue Nov 18 18:04:32 CET 2008 armv4tl unknown And - I am not using debian. My OS is FSO milestone 4.1 aka 'more homework'. Another question: Has debian also the possibility to run Zhone ? Do you prefer debian before FSO ? Is debian as small to fit in internal flash (not on /media/card) ? This phone software is compact and therefore fast. Thanks Lothar Fox Mulder wrote: I use debian with fso and when i install fso-gpsd no gpsd is installed as dependency because it would make no sense. Fso-gpsd IS the gpsd compatibility wrapper which does the same what gpsd does for the client applications. So be sure not to have fso-gpsd and gpsd installed. Both programs try to access the gps which doesn't work. My current version of fso-gpsd in debian is 0.8-2 and my fso-frameworkd is 0.8.4.3-20081215-1. Both are from the official debian repository. lollisoft wrote: I haven't success. My FSO is the 'more homework' version 4.1. Installing gpsd really installs fso-gpsd. Installing tangogps complains about having two versions matching gpsg, eg. the fso-gpsd and the compatibility (gpsd) wrapper that seems to be installed with fso-gpsd. What version do you use exactly (image locations) ? Tahnks Lothar lollisoft wrote: Thanks, I'll try that too. Also when the connections to the port are more than 0 it could be useful to disabling illume to lower the brightness and the like. Is this possible within a script ? Lothar Fox Mulder wrote: I did nothing special. I only deinstalled gpsd and installed fso-gpsd. Some time ago fso-gpsd wasn't working good at all. But a few weeks ago i tried again to replace gpsd with fso-gpsd and since than it works ok. Interesting is that with fso-gpsd the gps chip is activated as soon as a connection to the fso-gpsd port is opened. And it is deactivated when the last connection closes. This feature has pros and cons but at the moment i like it. :) Ciao, Rainer lollisoft wrote: Hi, what did you made to get GPS working in general ? See my post about GPS ... Thanks Lothar Fox Mulder wrote: Since a few weeks i'm using fso-gpsd without any big problems so far. The only problem is that the TTFF (time to first fix) is always 1 minute and sometimes it needs quite a lot of time. The only solution for me to be sure to get a fix within 30 sec is to use the agps tool which downloads the almanac and ephemeris from ublox for my region. The problem is, that the gps chip doesn't have any internal memory why it needs to download all relevant gps data every time it is powered up. So i thought if it is possible to save the relevant gps data before shutting down the gps which can be done by fso-gpsd or kernel automatically. Than after starting the gps fso-gpsd/kernel feeds back the data to speed up the TTFF. This would be the same way most gps receivers work. Maybe this is already implemented somewhere but i don't think so because the TTFF without agps is always quite slow. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-FSO--Speed-gps-time-to-firxt-fix-up--tp2105634p2108855.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] Speed gps time to firxt fix up?
I was claiming FSO is meaning the image and not the framework. Meaning 'More Homework' as a more symbolic name than milestone 4.1. What exactly was 'mounted' better into my /dev/brain :-) But that misunderstanding was cleaned out in this thread. I have used the following image: http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-stable/milestone4.1/openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20081120-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 So I think the subject saying [FSO] is also a little bit too less, because it will be used in two different contexts eg. the framework versus a complete distribution FSO. The documentation itself lists FSO beside SHR and others. See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions Stating 'This next release can be previewed by installing milestones of the FSO - Free Smartphone.Org project.' This is just my mind about the name FSO. But what I mean with 'more homework' is as of the readme file from here: http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-stable/milestone4.1/README.html Maybe posting a link to the image directly is more precise, but I have always searched for the images link. I have remembered 'more homework' and thus used it in thought others remember too :-) I think I also should use 'FSO-image' instead of FSO when meaning the image. Now, what am I doing: Testing images and try to get the most hardware components running for my private usage. The answer from Fox was to reinstall gpsd and not fso-gpsd and later he went back. So I tried this and struggled. Fox was also not on the FSO image, but on the Debian with FSO framework. Maybe he could do that but I am not (FSO image). I think bebause of Zhune. Beside all that: The newer testing image from here http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-testing/images/om-gta02/openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20090104-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 at least has a partly functioning GPS. It behaves more unstable thus earlier loss of a fix (in car / behind a window). The Om2008/9 image as from http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.9/ has worked much better inside a room. This may also be a difference between my microSD cards (factory delivered Transent SD card / Sandisk SDHC 16GB as reported here 'Booting from large microSD (SDHC) [success]'). I will test that next time. Also I should test Om2008/9 with my new microSD card to figure out what it is exactly. I hope to be more precise soon :-) Lothar -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-FSO--Speed-gps-time-to-firxt-fix-up--tp2105634p2111003.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FSO, Navit and more
Hi, first: Happy new year ! After playing around with different distributions I found that the FSO (Zhone) looks to me most exiting as a phone :-) It is clear, fast (Zhone) and works. Congratulation ! My questions are as following: I know about the GPS issue that the data from /dev/TTYS1 is mostly unavailable and thus not working. There were states about skipping GPS data, if they are invalid. Is it then only fixable with a modified or fixed kernel or is there anything available as kernel modules, thus I only have to fix the kernel module in question ? BTW: If the hardware components from the FreeRunner and the others are kernel modules, isn't it then easier for the phone users to update fixes that are hardware related ? Navit: The current navit has been improved. There is now 3D display I am waiting to try while driving and a functioning town search. With that it will be much more usable :-) What I am missing is the fact that the keyboard is still a bit unusable when not in landscape mode. I cannot get all keys pressed. Trying the system keyboard as for other applications doesn't work anyhow. Routing on Navit: If I let calculate navit big routes and I drive out of the route, it takes long to recalculate the route. I suspect that it recalculates the whole route. Is that correct ? If so, why is that done ? If it is technically based on the deletion of the route before a recalculation, why isn't the old route kept for reference and finding an additional route directing to the old route with an intersection at the optimal way ? Doing it that way would probably save a lot recalculation time. Routing over highways (Autobahn) is probably a point were calculation time can be saved, if the routes from crossing points to crossing points are precalculated and used in conjunction to the calculated routes that will use highways (Autobahn) on their way. I would be interested in helping to develop if I get some basic information what is the flow for a route (re)calculation. I was or be able to compile navit on my Mac (PPC) having Debian on it. WLAN on FSO: Is there a way to use WLAN on FSO without hacking it into the terminal, if it works anyhow ? FSO/Zhone: The calendar control is inactive. Is it yet to be developed ? General: I have seen scripts or tgz files named like FDOMizer. Is this a way to upgrade a basic image about a set of tools / applications ? Would this not be a good way to build it into the desktop to choose for upgrading to some different stacks on top of a base image ? Anyhow I have seen that speech-dispatcher takes 85% of CPU time after some circumstances I haven't figured out yet. A GUI showing processes of the most consuming CPU power would be good to give them a restart option or kill option based on name. Thanks and keep on developing a free phone :-) Lothar -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/FSO%2C-Navit-and-more-tp2105544p2105544.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] Speed gps time to firxt fix up?
Hi, what did you made to get GPS working in general ? See my post about GPS ... Thanks Lothar Fox Mulder wrote: Since a few weeks i'm using fso-gpsd without any big problems so far. The only problem is that the TTFF (time to first fix) is always 1 minute and sometimes it needs quite a lot of time. The only solution for me to be sure to get a fix within 30 sec is to use the agps tool which downloads the almanac and ephemeris from ublox for my region. The problem is, that the gps chip doesn't have any internal memory why it needs to download all relevant gps data every time it is powered up. So i thought if it is possible to save the relevant gps data before shutting down the gps which can be done by fso-gpsd or kernel automatically. Than after starting the gps fso-gpsd/kernel feeds back the data to speed up the TTFF. This would be the same way most gps receivers work. Maybe this is already implemented somewhere but i don't think so because the TTFF without agps is always quite slow. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-FSO--Speed-gps-time-to-firxt-fix-up--tp2105634p2105657.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Navit desktop symbol not visible in FSO ?
Hi, the current navit release seems to have a new desktop symbol, but it didn't show up on FSO (Installed 'more Homework'). The files are here /usr/share/icons/hicolor/22x22/apps/navit.png and /usr/share/icons/hicolor/128x128/apps/navit.png And the desktop file is here /usr/share/applications/navit.desktop What's wrong ? Thanks Lothar -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Navit-desktop-symbol-not-visible-in-FSO---tp2105678p2105678.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] Speed gps time to firxt fix up?
Thanks, I'll try that too. Also when the connections to the port are more than 0 it could be useful to disabling illume to lower the brightness and the like. Is this possible within a script ? Lothar Fox Mulder wrote: I did nothing special. I only deinstalled gpsd and installed fso-gpsd. Some time ago fso-gpsd wasn't working good at all. But a few weeks ago i tried again to replace gpsd with fso-gpsd and since than it works ok. Interesting is that with fso-gpsd the gps chip is activated as soon as a connection to the fso-gpsd port is opened. And it is deactivated when the last connection closes. This feature has pros and cons but at the moment i like it. :) Ciao, Rainer lollisoft wrote: Hi, what did you made to get GPS working in general ? See my post about GPS ... Thanks Lothar Fox Mulder wrote: Since a few weeks i'm using fso-gpsd without any big problems so far. The only problem is that the TTFF (time to first fix) is always 1 minute and sometimes it needs quite a lot of time. The only solution for me to be sure to get a fix within 30 sec is to use the agps tool which downloads the almanac and ephemeris from ublox for my region. The problem is, that the gps chip doesn't have any internal memory why it needs to download all relevant gps data every time it is powered up. So i thought if it is possible to save the relevant gps data before shutting down the gps which can be done by fso-gpsd or kernel automatically. Than after starting the gps fso-gpsd/kernel feeds back the data to speed up the TTFF. This would be the same way most gps receivers work. Maybe this is already implemented somewhere but i don't think so because the TTFF without agps is always quite slow. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-FSO--Speed-gps-time-to-firxt-fix-up--tp2105634p2105727.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] Speed gps time to firxt fix up?
I haven't success. My FSO is the 'more homework' version 4.1. Installing gpsd really installs fso-gpsd. Installing tangogps complains about having two versions matching gpsg, eg. the fso-gpsd and the compatibility (gpsd) wrapper that seems to be installed with fso-gpsd. What version do you use exactly (image locations) ? Tahnks Lothar lollisoft wrote: Thanks, I'll try that too. Also when the connections to the port are more than 0 it could be useful to disabling illume to lower the brightness and the like. Is this possible within a script ? Lothar Fox Mulder wrote: I did nothing special. I only deinstalled gpsd and installed fso-gpsd. Some time ago fso-gpsd wasn't working good at all. But a few weeks ago i tried again to replace gpsd with fso-gpsd and since than it works ok. Interesting is that with fso-gpsd the gps chip is activated as soon as a connection to the fso-gpsd port is opened. And it is deactivated when the last connection closes. This feature has pros and cons but at the moment i like it. :) Ciao, Rainer lollisoft wrote: Hi, what did you made to get GPS working in general ? See my post about GPS ... Thanks Lothar Fox Mulder wrote: Since a few weeks i'm using fso-gpsd without any big problems so far. The only problem is that the TTFF (time to first fix) is always 1 minute and sometimes it needs quite a lot of time. The only solution for me to be sure to get a fix within 30 sec is to use the agps tool which downloads the almanac and ephemeris from ublox for my region. The problem is, that the gps chip doesn't have any internal memory why it needs to download all relevant gps data every time it is powered up. So i thought if it is possible to save the relevant gps data before shutting down the gps which can be done by fso-gpsd or kernel automatically. Than after starting the gps fso-gpsd/kernel feeds back the data to speed up the TTFF. This would be the same way most gps receivers work. Maybe this is already implemented somewhere but i don't think so because the TTFF without agps is always quite slow. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-FSO--Speed-gps-time-to-firxt-fix-up--tp2105634p2105847.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
A simple wifi solution for FSO ...
Hi, I had played around with wifi and tried to get some desktop symbols. Here is my solution, that in my case works due to unencrypted wifi. I have tested the scripts on my FSO 'more homework' (4.1) with suspending the phone to see if wifi keeps working after wakeup. Maybe there are 'better' GUI solutions, but for me it's good :-) I think where could also used some python scripts to list scanned essid to select from. Also there could be developed some generic dialogs that doesn't rely on any specific distribution. But I am much away from writing python scripts :-) Lothar Shellscripts in /home/root yet (to be moved and desktop files tweaked): wlan.sh to activate wifi and deactivate usb0 to simpify routing #!/bin/sh # Replace openmoko with your essid iwconfig eth0 essid openmoko ifup eth0 ifdown usb0 wlan-off.sh to revert back to usb0 #!/bin/sh ifup usb0 ifdown eth0 Desktop files for each: Switching on... [Desktop Entry] Name=Wifi On Comment=Switch on wireless network Note=Hard wired to my home network Exec=/home/root/wlan.sh Icon=star.png Type=Application Categories=Games Categories=Office; Switching off... [Desktop Entry] Name=Wifi Off Comment=Switch on wireless network Note=Hard wired to my home network Exec=/home/root/wlan-off.sh Icon=star.png Type=Application Categories=Games Categories=Office; -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/A-simple-wifi-solution-for-FSO-...-tp2106354p2106354.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Using mplayer with seme desktop symbols for streaming stations and wlan :-)
Hi, has anyone used the combination of desktop symbols starting mplayer to play shoutcast radio stations ? Also using cron jobs to wake me up in the morning with a radio station will be an option :-) Also an idea: Does someone know, if streamripper (http://sourceforge.net/projects/streamripper/) is ported to FreeRunner ? With that you would probably record for offline listening :-) I have tried that with a script like this (killall let the GUI bring up an error message I haven't yet got rid): Play a radio station #!/bin/sh killall mplayer mplayer http://yp.shoutcast.com/sbin/tunein-station.pls?id=7429 Stop playing #!/bin/sh killall mplayer Desktop file to start playing. [Desktop Entry] Name=Technobase FM Comment=Switch off mplayer Note=Stops all mplayers Exec=/home/root/play-technobase-fm.sh Icon=star.png Type=Application Categories=Games Categories=Office; Desktop file to stop playing. [Desktop Entry] Name=Stop MP3 Comment=Switch off mplayer Note=Stops all mplayers Exec=/home/root/stop-mplayer.sh Icon=star.png Type=Application Categories=Games Categories=Office; Regards Lothar -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Using-mplayer-with-seme-desktop-symbols-for-streaming-stations-and-wlan-%3A-%29-tp2107090p2107090.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
