Re: [NEW DISTRIBUTION] Announcing NEOPhysis

Aditya Gandhi ha scritto: > Yes please some screenshots > > On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Risto H. Kurppa > wrote: > > 34sec bootup time sound's incredible compared to all other > distros, WELL DONE!! > > Are there any screenshots available? > > > Thanks!

Re: [NEW DISTRIBUTION] Announcing NEOPhysis

Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > djdas writes: > >> Honestly we didn't try GPRS functions yet, because we focused on the >> phone part for the Armeniacum release, although oFono team implemented >> the GPRS functions and the Calypso plugin already works with >&

Re: [NEW DISTRIBUTION] Announcing NEOPhysis

Ed Kapitein wrote: > Hi Djdas, > > Thanks for the new FR software. > I did try it just yet and ran into some problems. > Where am i supposed to put the software? SD card? Nand? doesn;t matter? > I put it on the Nand and flashed the kernel to Nand as well, but it > doesn

Re: [NEW DISTRIBUTION] Announcing NEOPhysis

Neil Jerram wrote: > On 6 March 2010 22:24, djdas wrote: > >> As the team leader of the Neophysis Dev Team I'm proud to announce you a >> new distribution for our loved(?) Freerunner. >> > > Well, of course it will be great to have another choice fo

Re: [NEW DISTRIBUTION] Announcing NEOPhysis

Brolin Empey wrote: > djdas wrote: > >> What's next: who knows :P we're hardly working to achieve a stable phone >> system, there are lots of programs in our OE buildsys but we haven't >> provided a package manager yet (there is a script to simply instal

[NEW DISTRIBUTION] Announcing NEOPhysis

this is all for now, just a BIG BIG THANK YOU to my team (in alphabetical order): - Arus (GUI, Development) - Djdas (me :) Development, System Engineering) - LeOS (System Engineering) - Monto (Development) - Nicola.mfb (GUI, Development, Brainfuc*ing :D) - Nippi (Kernel building, Development) Thank you

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

Bernd Prünster ha scritto: > DJDAS wrote: > > FDOM uses illume, the launcher is efl, the settings app is efl... > strange world we live in... > Yes I know, thank you :) but since then I noticed new versions were slower than the one I have, so maybe FDOM guys or that libraries ve

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > But I will. Creating Illume themes and even redesigning it completely > is easier than for Qt or GTK+. I tried it (i'm author of Niebiee > theme), so I know :P > > Really, you're annoying. > Sorry > >> other people, I don't agree with Raster and SHR maintainers

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

Davide Scaini wrote: > DJDAS i share some thoughts with you ideed... but: this is a > community, why don't you share your work? Simply because ATM our work (it's not ONLY mine but we are a team of about 10 people) it's not more than a simple prototype, we are hardly working

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

Cedric BAIL wrote: > So either you have something like QtMoko without fancy stuff, and it > will be faster, or you have some fancy effect, but slower fps. That's > it. You can cry, you can yell, it will not be possible to do something > more than that. Yes, it is frustrating, but the world is like

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

Cedric BAIL wrote: > Man, what didn't you understand in: "YOU SHOULD WRITE A THEME THAT > DON'T USE THAT MUCH FANCY STUFF ?" ? The EFL are fast and optimised, > but you should adapt the theme to what you ask. So write a theme that > look like QtMoko and I bet you will have at least the same speed (

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

Xavier Cremaschi wrote: > > No. > From the user point of view, a recipe : > - take SHR or Om2009 > - put a simple theme instead of the default one > - notice it's very fast > > Where is the part with the user who cannot use this or that ? > That as Raster correctly said, "default" is something

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

Xavier Cremaschi wrote: > DJDAS a écrit : > >> ri...@happyleptic.org wrote: >> >>> The problem is : on the freerunner we merely need something to display some >>> simple widgets, scroll the screen smoothly (because on a small display you >>> a

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > well.. you're telling the one that wrote the graphics code, that has read the > glamo hw docs, has worked on it long before freerunner was on sale, who has > written graphics code for many platforms, manye cpus of many varying levesl of > speed (from 7mhz 6

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness [ot]

Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > with linux i'm not lumping in uclinux, elks, etc. as they do come under > different names :) notice.. i included desktop... and at least i'd hope to > imply that would be the desktop he speaks of... ie how great compiz is and so > much better than e17. :) (

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

ri...@happyleptic.org wrote: > > The problem is : on the freerunner we merely need something to display some > simple widgets, scroll the screen smoothly (because on a small display you > always need to scroll) and be reactive to user finger pressures. If E, because > of an ambitious design, is una

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto: > On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:51:48 +0100 DJDAS said: > > >> Christophe M wrote: >> >>> Hi guys ! >>> I don't want to feed the troll but lets compare what's comparable ... >>> You compare

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: >> >> Because Linux doesn't sucks on an 8086 ;) because Linux is well >> designed, is scalable, is optimized and can run even on a 8086...Desktop >> > > i think you just illustrated my point where i don't think you know what you > are > talking about.

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

Christophe M wrote: > Hi guys ! > I don't want to feed the troll but lets compare what's comparable ... > You compare Qt framebuffer with E over Xorg ... In one case you have a > Xorg who is running in the other it's directly accessed ... Not true, because if Raster was right the only problem woul

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

Laszlo KREKACS ha scritto: > Lets count the elementary apps here. How many of them written for the > Freerunner? > Sad true: almost all usable elementary app are written for the Freerunner. > > > > I think in a year or so we will grow out the Freerunner. But until > then there is a lot > o

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > well as i said. it works fine and fluidly on many other devices. Even Windows Vista works fine and fluidly on 3000$ desktops this doesn't mean it's optimized ;) > but.. if i were smart.. i'd not develop apps for the freerunner. it's a "dead > product". it

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

Xavier Cremaschi wrote: > I beg to differ, your personal experience is not mine (E17 being damn > fast comparing to xfce). E17 is fuck**g fast on limited hardware. > World is beautiful because it's various ;) > I think you miss the point : > - qtmoko/qtopia is pretty because of good skin and go

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > you show and immense amount of knowledge here, both of the hardware, of > software and graphics in general. i'm amazed. i shall take your advice as you > obviously are someone of massive experience. i see that people reporting that > its faster and better o

Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness

Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: >> Also, I installed Qtv14 (thanks to Radek for that distribution), and >> that I see? I is fast enought, scrolls fast, react fast, and so on. So, >> > > scrolling is different in qt. it is a simple blit. in efl it's a redraw. efl > is > very much like

Re: Nokia N900

Rui Miguel Silva Seabra ha scritto: > I don't care if that code breaks the GPL or not, what I care is that > is 2% too much proprietary software because it's 2% VERY IMPORTANT > software. > > Even 2% of Freerunner code is proprietary (Calypso and Wifi and it's VERY IMPORTANT too) why do we have

Re: Putting the *S*table back in *S*HR!

Warren Baird ha scritto: > hey all, > > As I (and others) mentioned in the recent OM2009 thread - One of the > great advantages of SHR is that it is being developed so quickly. > However, I'd also say that one of the great *DIS*advantages of SHR is > that it's being developed so quickly that it

Re: Spam in projects.openmoko mailinglist

arne anka ha scritto: >> No, this seems a mail generated from the versioning system who alerts me >> of a pending commit request not a common spamming message. >> > > ??? > nothing's easier than spoofing the sent-from. just because it says it is > sent from something-commits does in no way m

Re: Spam in projects.openmoko mailinglist

arne anka ha scritto: >> Pending posts: >> From: bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org on Wed Jul 29 17:47:15 2009 >> Subject: Dear bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org 76% 0FF on Pfizer ! >> >> Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list >> > > so? what part don't you understand? > th

Re: Spam in projects.openmoko mailinglist

arne anka ha scritto: >> Additionally I get Mails from that list with subject: >> � VIAGRA � Official Site >> >> > > to what address do you get that spam? > faking the from-header is widely used -- i get a lot of spam sent > allegedly from my address. > simply ignore it. > > I receive

Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke?

Joerg Lippmann ha scritto: > When will that be? When the device is completely obsolete? > Please see below... > Sorry, but after a year of waiting I still have an expensive brick that I can > neither use as a proper phone (speaker still WAY to low, too unstable, too > slow, too battery-hungry)

Re: [SHR-U] Bluetooth and GSM... Again.

Paul Fertser ha scritto: > DJDAS writes: > >> Consider I didn't change anything in my distro (kernel, packages, libs, >> etc) but there were cases of both working (to be honest the Nokia one >> worked only two times and it isn't broken as I use it with my

Re: [SHR-U] Bluetooth and GSM... Again.

Paul Fertser ha scritto: > The Digital Pioneer writes: > >> Paul said that the connection for bluetooth runs straight from one chip to >> the other, without really >> involving ALSA at all. Is there a way we can make it involve ALSA, since >> bluetooth works perfectly >> through ALSA? >>

Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke?

mobi phil ha scritto: > > > > That depends on your sense of humour ;-) > > > Well, I would say it was a very bad joke. I spent eq. of 400 dolars, I > was waiting 1 year for glamo acceleration etc, etc. that would make > the phone usable etc, and it turns out, that it will never be

Re: posting style preferences was Re: Why one cannot recommend the freerunner as a daily phone (was Re: Is a FreeRunner sufficient for me?)

FINALLY :) Thumbs up! arne anka ha scritto: > any chance you fight that out somewhere else? > the discussions about the prefered posting style (and no, there's no > rule!) is as old as the internet -- and both positions still live and kick. > > that can only mean one thing: > for both prefs

Re: new qwerty keyboard, Literki

Al Johnson ha scritto: > On Tuesday 16 June 2009, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > >> >> True.. new ideas needed.. >> > > Block icon in one colour with a thin border in another colour. > > Capturing background color and filling the button with the inverse one? Bye! _

Re: Battery ID chip - help needed

Laszlo KREKACS ha scritto: > So inserting a nokia BL-5C battery is not complete solution. (because it lacks > the coulomb counter), and freerunner cant charge it (currently) Not true, I asked my colleague to recharge my BL-5C battery with his FR while using my old Nokia some days ago and it compl

Re: intone a2dp (bluetooth) support

Michael Sheldon ha scritto: > DJDAS wrote: > >> It's very simple: you have to pair to the device and create a .asoundrc >> file in $HOME. >> > > Personally I don't think this should be implemented in intone, this > sort of system-wide activ

Re: intone a2dp (bluetooth) support

OpenMitko ha scritto: > > Hi to all, > > Sorry if this is out of topic. > > I want to ask those of you who already use a2dp, how is the sound > quality? I tried to use my Neo as media player wit wired headsets, but > it was almost a disaster, intone is great but the sound quality is > bad. Not o

Re: intone a2dp (bluetooth) support

c_c ha scritto: > Hi, > > The Digital Pioneer wrote: > >>> AFAIK, the only way to do it is to run mplayer with -ao >>> alsa:device=bluetooth >>> > Ok. But what would be the best of doing so from intone :- > > 1. I stop the current process from Intone > 2. Start new process with the -a

Re: LinuxTag 24-27 June Berlin

Giovanni ha scritto: > You forgot Slackware, with ArmedSlack: > http://www.armedslack.org/ > > :) Sorry for my ignorancebut either in the wiki or ML I read about this distro and subscribed to the armedslack ML but there is no place where Freerunner is considered to run it, can someone point

Re: (Neovento) gprs ui bug

Sean holmes ha scritto: > > > neovento 5 has the same bug as last time. The gprs ui has to few > spaces to enter you APN sever name. keep up the good work. > Could you please use a larger font as yours is unreadable? Thank you :D Bye! ___ Openmoko

Re: Debuzzing

Marco Trevisan (Treviño) ha scritto: > Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > >> 2) Therefore we plan to offer this service to all Openmoko owners >> within the EU harmonized market / tax union (to avoid re-import/export >> hassle). Please note that there will be a rework fee. The final price >

Re: Bluetooth headsets in FSO

Paul Fertser ha scritto: > DJDAS writes: > >> Franky Van Liedekerke ha scritto: >> >>>> Framework already supports BT headsets. The fact GUI is missing shows >>>> the lack of interest from end-users, well, i think it'll change soon. >>

Re: Bluetooth headsets in FSO

Franky Van Liedekerke ha scritto: >> Framework already supports BT headsets. The fact GUI is missing shows >> the lack of interest from end-users, well, i think it'll change soon. >> > hmm ... I thought end-users were people actually using the phone, not > unix-hackers ... That's why I wrote

Re: Bluetooth headsets in FSO

Paul Fertser ha scritto: > Franky Van Liedekerke writes: > >>> And BTW, FSO-based distros should now support bluetooth headsets out >>> of the box, one needs to follow instructions from [1]. >>> >>> [1] >>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_Bluetooth#Once_Again.2C_Bluetooth_Headset_

[Om2008.x] Announcing BlueMoko 1.0b1

Dear list, this is for announcing the first beta release of BlueMoko, a PyGTK GUI handler for the bluetooth stack. ATM the program handles powering on/off, mode setting (visible, invisible, connectable), scanning for devices and pairing (with PIN too) but only with headset devices (pc, smartphon

Re: Debuzzing

Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller ha scritto: > Dear community, > > > 2) Therefore we plan to offer this service to all Openmoko owners > within the EU harmonized market / tax union (to avoid re-import/export > hassle). Please note that there will be a rework fee. The final price > is not yet clear (e

Re: FatFingerShell vt with fullscreen keyboard

Rafael Ignacio Zurita ha scritto: > Hello, > > --- On Fri, 3/27/09, DJDAS wrote: > >> Hi, >> I get the previous error and then this message, after GUI >> creation, and >> the program quits: >> >> ./fatfingershell: select failed >> >&

Re: FatFingerShell vt with fullscreen keyboard

The Digital Pioneer ha scritto: > Hey, this is great! Best FR terminal I've seen. I do have a question > though... In the output, it says "./fatfingershell: can't access font > 8x13, trying fixed" just before creating its GUI. That doesn't seem to > be a problem, but I don't like rogue error mes

Re: List of OpenMoko distributions

Ron K. Jeffries ha scritto: > > Q1: Where does one find a list of all current OpenMoko distributions? > > Q2: Is there an effort to make one of these distributions THE > production version that ships on new phones after some date? Is that > date established or up in the air? > > Q3: if one ord

Re: Freerunner GSM Buzz fix, warranty and hopes...

Helge Hafting ha scritto: > As for the buzz, it depends on how bad it is. If the other end can't > hear you properly then it is a defect. If they get some background noise > that don't prevent the use as a phone, then it merely is a phone of > low but useable quality. > > Helge Hafting > T

Re: Transparent keyboard in illume

kimaidou ha scritto: > Waou, THIS IS GREAT ! I am very happy to find someone with the same > will, but skilled ! For me, qwo is also the fastest keyboard, and > making it fullscreen + transparent will make it the killer keyboard. > Congratulation for sharing your method. I will try it asap. > >

Re: [Om2008.9] ButtonPress event for button 3 (right mouse button)

Matthias Apitz ha scritto: > Hi, > > The question is seriously, so please don't respond with 'use the right > finger': How can I generate the X11 event ButtonPress/ButtonRelease for > button 3, i.e. the right button of the mouse, with the touchpad of the > FR? Thx > Sorry for that, I was in fun

Re: [Om2008.9] vncviewer vnc_3.3.7-r0 but scrolling does not work

Max Giesbert ha scritto: > I know this behavior from the desktop. There you have to use a right > mouse click to scroll backwards... > > Dunno how to get a right click on the Freerunner though... > > Use your right finger :P ___ Openmoko community

Re: [Om2008.x] UMTS based on USB adapter

Matthias Apitz ha scritto: > El día Tuesday, February 03, 2009 a las 02:35:06PM +0100, DJDAS escribió: > > Thanks for the pointer. I do Spanish and so I can read the page. :-) > Your modem is as well Huawei E220? I have had one borrowed by Vodafone > and it worked well on my Fre

Re: [Om2008.x] UMTS based on USB adapter

Matthias Apitz ha scritto: > Hello, > > Is anybody using UMTS connections with the FR based on USB connected > modem devices like the USB HSDPA Huawei E220 one? Any other ideas as > devices? Thx > > matthias > Yes, I do and it works pretty well (not considering battery drain ;) ) You can f

Re: QWO (was Re: handwriting recognition)

Josh Thompson ha scritto: >> Nope, look at this: http://www.nongnu.org/qwo/ >> Bye :) >> > > On what distro are you using QWO? I just tried it on SHR, and nothing ever > shows up. If I ssh in to my FR with my display forwarded to my desktop and > run it, it seems to work ok. > > Anyone kno

Re: handwriting recognition. was:Re: Dual touch display

arne anka ha scritto: >> Nope, look at this: http://www.nongnu.org/qwo/ >> > > quikwriting (qwikwrite?). yes. i've seen that before. is it really that > good? > > IMHO the best one I've never seen I became very fast after few days (now I have a counter problem, as I'm too fast doing

Re: handwriting recognition. was:Re: Dual touch display

arne anka ha scritto: >> I use QWO since December and I feel very nice with it, forgot any other >> keyboard and dictionariesvery good input method. >> > > > what's qwo? the qtopia one? > > _ Nope, look at this: http://www.nongnu.org/qwo/ Bye :) __

Re: handwriting recognition. was:Re: Dual touch display

arne anka ha scritto: > there's rosetta > >> http://www.handhelds.org/project/rosetta/ >> > > another attempt is cellwriter > >> http://risujin.org/cellwriter >> I use QWO since December and I feel very nice with it, forgot any other keyboard and dictionariesvery good input me

Re: [OM 2008.12] Enlightenment Drop Shadow Performance

Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto: >>> Billk >>> >> I've seen Enlightenment running between 18% and 30% most of the time >> lately, with SHR. And I just discovered I am able to drop it to 3%-5% and >> bring it back through a single change: I've been tweaking some Oxygen >> icons

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

Michael Zanetti ha scritto: > As It seems this thread is becoming more and more some sort of a whish-list, > I > will put my 2ct here also: > > - Please don't add a camera: Has ever anyone made a picture with a mobile > phone camera that doesn't suck? Get a real camera if you want to make some

Re: [OM2008] USB events -> scripts?

Joel Newkirk ha scritto: > > The only problem with this approach so far is that on powerup it doesn't > trigger, only on USB insertion after fully booted. > > j > Did you try forcing udev events triggering by using udev-trigger command? Bye! ___ Ope

Re: case manufacturing

rakshat hooja ha scritto: > > > > ponoko.com would do it for you, or > emachineshop.com > > if you get some pricing, could you let us know -- even your desgin? > i am still pondering the idea of a new casing ... > > > Thanks. will update

Re: Switching the orientation of the screen

Robin Paulson ha scritto: > 2008/12/11 Clemens Dörrhöfer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> I am starting to learn pygtk and my "helloworld" Project is this primitiv >> gui, which lets you switch the orientatin of the screen. I don't like the >> automatic switching and with the help of this, I can do it

Re: [Android] Converting a brick into a phone

Andreas Fischer ha scritto: > I totally disagree. First, I do not think that phones age that quick. I > used an age-old Nokia phone (I think it was a 3510 - ca. 2002) until I > got my Freerunner this summer. Unless something unforeseen happens, next > summer the two Neos will _still_ be the only fu

Re: Funding Global Domination

Steve Mosher ha scritto: > please do. > > DJDAS wrote: > >> What about making a T-shirt with the hardware schematics? ;) Well :) I'm a bit practical with The Gimp, I'll try to do something in the weekend, in the meantime I accept suggestions for the file format, s

Re: Funding Global Domination

Arigead ha scritto: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Minh Ha Duong wrote: > >> Le mercredi 03 décembre 2008, arne anka a écrit : >> > The second option is more like it. It takes a few hours to design a > T-Shirt > and upload it to an online store where every

OMoney? :O

Hi all, I was thinking about an expense handling program (like HandyExpenses on Symbian phones), I have many ideas in mind but didn't write anything yet, but looking at some screenshots at linuxtogo I saw these: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/index.php?page=6 I didn't find such an application (tried

Re: Survey about the Touchscreen

Al Iasid ha scritto: > IMHO having to dig out a stylus (pen) or use my fingernail is not > nearly as convenient or enjoyable as a finger-friendly interface. I > don't min hi res or low res - or big or small screen size - as long as > the interface is finger-friendly. The cell phone is our most

Re: Minty Boost && FreeRunner

Cédric Berger ha scritto: > I did not have a look at neo's circuitry. > But whatever the method it uses, it cannot force 1A if 1A is not > available (wall charger unplugged from the wall won't give 1A :-p ) ? > Uhm...not exactly true... Ohm Law says: V = R * I -> I = V/R, and if R->0 then I->oo

[OM2008.9 - FDOM] Re: Will there be a hardware revision for the buzzing issue?

Dear members, I follow the list since October, although I own my Freerunner since July. I owned a A5 before I needed its substitution from my seller because the "handsfree" speaker stopped working so now I own a A6 revision. I live in Italy and my carrier is Vodafone. I noticed this (appeared in bo

Re: One more rotate version

Sarton O'Brien ha scritto: > Speaking of formatting ... I imagine there's a reply in there somewhere :P > > On Tuesday 21 October 2008 01:31:21 DJDAS wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> .. >> >> >&g

Re: One more rotate version

Rui Miguel Silva Seabra ha scritto: On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 01:33:20PM +0200, Fabian Henze wrote: On 20.10.2008 at 12:00:36, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 01:37:33AM +0200, Fabian Henze wrote: As it seems popular these

Re: console command history

Carsten Gerlach ha scritto: Hi, Am Dienstag 14. Oktober 2008 3:13:14 am schrieb Joel Newkirk: On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:26:10 +0100, Stroller wrote Isn't it in .bashrc or .bash_profile? Stroller. it is for bash, but OM distros are using an sh/ash repla

Re: Concept arts. Interface - how I would like it to see.

Daniel Hedblom ha scritto: > Expanding capabilities with gestures is nice and can add usability to > a device. Using them as the default way of accomplish things makes the > device very hard to use for a beginner. > That is why configuration dialogs were invented ;) there could be an option whi

Re: Concept arts. Interface - how I would like it to see.

wp wrote: > > What is your opinion? Say what you like, and what you don't? Make your > own pics, share it with us. Free the imagination! > Very very nice :) Why not substitute the touch for the left panel with an accel gesture that "slides" the panel tilting the phone? This could lock the panel