Re: [2008.12] Enlightenment doesn't want to run anymore

2009-02-25 Thread Flyin_bbb8
My best guess would be that either your config is causing a problem (something along the lines of rm -r ~/.e may fix ... or maybe more xserver specific configs) or something from angstrom was pulled in and not removed or overwritten. If you are getting a segfault then the latter is probably

Re: [2008.12] Enlightenment doesn't want to run anymore

2009-02-24 Thread Flyin_bbb8
no one has any idea what the segfault could be caused from? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: [2008.12] Enlightenment doesn't want to run anymore

2009-02-24 Thread Flyin_bbb8
here's the original mail i installed were pythm , mplayer then i uninstalled them, after a reboot the screen shows starting atd daemon:atd. last thing and nothing after, i tried running /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm start, and looked at log in /tmp/x.log # RUN INIT: /usr/bin/enlightenment_init

[2008.12] Enlightenment doesn't want to run anymore

2009-02-23 Thread Flyin_bbb8
hey, i have been updating software on my freerunner last things i installed were pythm , mplayer then i uninstalled them, after a reboot the screen shows starting atd daemon:atd. last thing and nothing after, i tried running /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm start, and looked at log in /tmp/x.log # RUN

Re: Opkg.org segfaulting packages

2009-02-13 Thread Flyin_bbb8
I don't know but before yesterday i had 2008.12 and illume profile installed mokomaze, it segfaulted, then i did a fresh install of 2008.12 switched profile to illume and straight away installed mokomaze again, another segfault, and the thing is after i gave restarted the freerunner it wasn't

Re: New design (was Re: Samsung M7600)

2009-02-11 Thread Flyin_bbb8
You mean something like this but without keyboard http://androidmesh.com/devices/exceda-android-handheld-smartphone-comming-on-march-221 Yup, it would be too big and too ugly. too ugly and you'll need 2 hands to hold it on your ear, i think if gta03 or gta04 would be something like the g1

Re: Getting rid of Android

2008-12-24 Thread Flyin_bbb8
how about the nor uboot? same list? On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 8:41 PM, vsviri...@exceede.com wrote: Yes, Android is flashed into the unit. SD Card contains 2 partitions as per Android requirements. The partitions i mention are showing up in dfu-util -l, which lists all the alternates

Re: Next community update

2008-11-15 Thread Flyin_bbb8
Under 'Hardware' where you discuss the GSM update you state: The goal is to fix ticket 666 and introduce a new command AT+CSIM. Than means 3G. There will be a self-contained update image that can be copied to a uSD card, then boots from there, and has a simple GUI to kick off the upgrade.

Re: [2008.9 , FDOM] gsm modem and suspend

2008-11-12 Thread Flyin_bbb8
i did a couple of tests in FDOM yesterday to find out what's really causing this problem. i changed that echo 1 blah to gsm power_on in qtopia89 in /etc/X11/XSession.. the results were not so random but sometimes didn't make sense, couldn't come to an exact conclusion but it seems

Re: gsm modem and suspend

2008-11-11 Thread Flyin_bbb8
does no one else experience problems with suspend after turning off GSM modem? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: [2008.9 , FDOM] gsm modem and suspend

2008-11-11 Thread Flyin_bbb8
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 2:09 PM, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: does no one else experience problems with suspend after turning off GSM modem? could you please prefix the subject with distribution used? thanks. i am not able to infer, what exactly you're doing: - disabling gsm via

Re: power-on without battery!

2008-11-11 Thread Flyin_bbb8
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Tony Berth [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi, I was trying to power-on my FR but having the battery removed and didn't succeed! Goes up to a point and then stops! Is a reason for that? so you were trying to boot without battery and without usb cable plugged and it

gsm modem and suspend

2008-11-10 Thread Flyin_bbb8
DISTRO=FDOM-27-09-2008 http://openmoko.truebox.co.uk/mirror/compartida.net/Fat_and_Dirty_OM.200809_20080927.rootfs.jffs2 KERNEL= http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/uImage-gta02-stable-3v1n0-git-mixture-2.bin when system starts apm -s suspends the freerunner properly, but when i go to

Re: ReMoKo and openSuSE 11

2008-10-01 Thread Flyin_bbb8
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Valerio Valerio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Can you also provide me the output of ReMoko ? Sure, here you go, sorry for the delay i was really busy for the last 3 days [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# DISPLAY=:0 remoko dbus_objectInit... proxy ok interface ok failcount=

Re: ReMoKo and openSuSE 11

2008-10-01 Thread Flyin_bbb8
ok i don't know if this might be useful but the line -- BlueZ input service started is only showin in the terminal through ssh after i press the X button ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: ReMoKo and openSuSE 11

2008-10-01 Thread Flyin_bbb8
i have the same versions as Claus, and no i never tryed connecting bluetooth mouse or keyboard, thanx alot valerio for your help ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: ReMoKo and openSuSE 11

2008-09-27 Thread Flyin_bbb8
problem is when we go to the this input devices wizard and say add new devices it finds the openmoko bluetooth then press the button setup and it says Failed to Create input device for 'device' ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: ReMoKo and openSuSE 11

2008-09-27 Thread Flyin_bbb8
and when i do hcitool -cc 'mycomputermacadd' it connects and shows connected on the pc for a second then drops it , not much experience here ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: ReMoKo and openSuSE 11

2008-09-27 Thread Flyin_bbb8
sorry for the third post, here's some hcidumps from both pc and freerunner while havin remoko on # hcidump (from pc) HCI sniffer - Bluetooth packet analyzer ver 1.41 device: hci0 snap_len: 1028 filter: 0x HCI Command: Create Connection (0x01|0x0005) plen 13 HCI Event: Command

Re: [2008.09] resolv.conf

2008-09-24 Thread Flyin_bbb8
In 2008.8 resolvconf didn't populate it with the nameserver supplied by dhcp when the wifi interface was brought up. I don't know if this is still the case in 2008.9. hmm actually it always filled it in for me from DHCP when connectin to wifi using ifdown eth0 ifup eth0 both in 2008.8 and

Re: minimal battery capacity for next re-boot

2008-09-22 Thread Flyin_bbb8
what would be such a value? 10% or even less? that the beast comes up again to be charged again with the power supply? you can try to charge your phone 100% shutdown, boot with usb cable removed, and see how much it is, do couple of more tests, take the maximum value add 2 or 3% for safety

Re: debian/apm/apmd - experimenting

2008-08-31 Thread Flyin_bbb8
Try to update the kernel (don't forget the modules) take the modules tgz and uImage from there -- http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080830/ depmod and don't forget to add g_ether to your /etc/modules (for the usb0 to work) yea it is s2ram, s2disk would take much more time

Re: keyboard (was Re: 2008.8 raster + zecke, great useability, and remaining flaws)

2008-08-26 Thread Flyin_bbb8
in many ways it's good to know i won't be the meat in the sandwich between community and company going forward. :) Don't worry Raster you're not the meat in the sandwich, i can see most of the things you do helps us, but somehow the design department doesn't like the good changes you make, and

Re: touch screen driving me nuts!

2008-08-18 Thread Flyin_bbb8
if we look at the pic, the top 4 red lines are deviated upwards with the one closest to the centre being the most deviated, and the lowest 4 red lines are deviated downwards with the one closest to the centre being the most deviated again.. it does certainly look like a weird pressure from

Re: Finger stylus found...

2008-08-18 Thread Flyin_bbb8
Fits most fingers, haha how would they know that? :p ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Finger stylus found...

2008-08-18 Thread Flyin_bbb8
nice one :p well check this one out... this is the stylus all of you need to go and get it now, it's the 'fashion' :p One of our customers asked for a clip to keep their tethered stylus from dangling. So, we found the perfect clip to keep the tethered stylus, inkless stylus, finger or pen cap

Re: Finger stylus found...

2008-08-18 Thread Flyin_bbb8
well these guys obviously think all their customers are stupid, found this on their main page Here are just five of the many benefits of our finger stylus and pen cap stylus: 1. Increase your productivity by up to 30%! 2. Prolong the life of your touch screen and PDA. 3. Decrease the need to

Re: Finger stylus found...

2008-08-18 Thread Flyin_bbb8
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 1:19 PM, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well these guys obviously think all their customers are stupid, found this on their main page sorry? 1. Increase your productivity by up to 30%! 2. Prolong the life of your touch screen and PDA. 3. Decrease the need to

Re: stupid guy! thinks it's a train wreck!

2008-08-18 Thread Flyin_bbb8
To be completely fair to him if you go tot he Openmoko.com online store [1] [2] there's no indication that the Freerunner is anything less than a completed (and fully-polished) product. Stroller. [1] http://www.openmoko.com/product.html [2]

stupid guy! thinks it's a train wreck!

2008-08-17 Thread Flyin_bbb8
hahahah this guy is really stupid,, check it out.. be sure to check out his comments!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3ntUy2eqlk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: IDA Systems Freerunner sales update

2008-08-13 Thread Flyin_bbb8
Yes but having a creditcard payment method is preferable than wire transfers, as you'll have to go to your bank, fill a form.. da da da... creditcard you just go to the website put the info there and you got it done much faster... plus in my situation i use an e-card, which is like a mastercard

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Flyin_bbb8
GREAT JOB!!! very well done... keep up the great work Paul!! +1 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: 2008 WTF??

2008-08-10 Thread Flyin_bbb8
But who would buy a $400 phone with just looking at pictures or reading a blog or something mentioning it, then going to the website (openmoko.com) and buying it. without checking the wiki or asking anyone that owns it.. openmoko.com doesn't give any proper information on anything other

Re: What's up with Openmoko store?

2008-08-10 Thread Flyin_bbb8
So any updates steve? On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 6:02 AM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry I'm at Linux world, I'll met with Sean in Friday and discuss. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

we need updates

2008-07-31 Thread Flyin_bbb8
guys it's been a week the openmoko.com says Sold Out? Neo FreeRunner is currently *SOLD OUT*. The next batch of shipments are scheduled to arrive on July 25th. can we have an update on this, or can someone please update the website? IIRC there are 2 people who went to the website on the 23-rd and

Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-20 Thread Flyin_bbb8
Did Ti (the modem / firmware supplier) respond to this issue steve? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Battery Lifetime

2008-07-20 Thread Flyin_bbb8
what's the hungriest of all? or if we can have a list of all the hungry stuff in the FR sorted from the one starving to the one who needs a snack? :) On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at

Re: GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-07-18 Thread Flyin_bbb8
Just one question, will the new freerunners coming out on 25-th have it reworked, or we'll have to do it by ourselves ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: GPS problems, summary

2008-07-17 Thread Flyin_bbb8
I think the Freerunner has enough RAM to actually make that possible (ringtones and etc. may be stored in tmpfs) :) Maybe when just running the GPS application and there's no fix some of the important data from the SD can be put in the RAM (just in case a call comes or any other things like

Re: CRCFAIL?

2008-07-17 Thread Flyin_bbb8
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Ken Restivo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Poking around in dmesg output, I see lots of these: CRCFAIL 0x1a3f CRCFAIL 0x1a3f But no indication of where they're coming from. They seem to occur at random times during boot. What is CRC failing, and what, if

Re: SanDisk micro SDHC 8GB card under testing

2008-07-11 Thread Flyin_bbb8
So what's the best filesystem to use on our microSDs? On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 12:51 AM, Mikko Rauhala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pe, 2008-07-11 kello 15:44 -0600, Joe Pfeiffer kirjoitti: Checking you're right. I could swear I saw early on that the whole reason jffs2 was used on the GTA01

shipping very expensive

2008-07-07 Thread Flyin_bbb8
hey everyone i live in Qatar, and just to see how much the shipping would be for the 900 MHz i just tried to check out the 850 version and shipping to Doha - Qatar ( where i stay ) with UPS worldwide expedited is 97.59 USD, and UPS saver 101.23 USD, that's just unacceptable and very expensive.

Re: shipping very expensive

2008-07-07 Thread Flyin_bbb8
:p i wouldn't call it only, but $160 is definitely crazy, watsup with UPS? On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Federico Lorenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ha, only 100 dollars for you. Shipping to South Africa is $160 On 7/7/08, Flyin_bbb8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey everyone i live in Qatar

Re: shipping very expensive

2008-07-07 Thread Flyin_bbb8
Federico, did you already order from the openmoko shop? or you're waiting for the 900 MHz version? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: shipping very expensive

2008-07-07 Thread Flyin_bbb8
Yea, i did the same thing, just wrote an email to see if theyll ship the phone to qatar On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 7:44 PM, ian douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He said he was checking the web site and started an order for the 850 just to check what the shipping cost would be. -id Flyin_bbb8

Re: shipping very expensive

2008-07-07 Thread Flyin_bbb8
sorry i meant i wrote an email to the indian distributor. On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 10:01 PM, Flyin_bbb8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yea, i did the same thing, just wrote an email to see if theyll ship the phone to qatar On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 7:44 PM, ian douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He

Re: Battery loading ...

2008-07-07 Thread Flyin_bbb8
Maybe the gear is on reverse :p ( don't really know what problem is as i don't have my freerunner yet ) On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:33 AM, Christoph Anton Mitterer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah,... and it's intersting that, after the battery has been fully loaded,... the

Re: freerunner shipment confirmation?

2008-07-05 Thread Flyin_bbb8
But its good sharing this kind of information, if the person [EMAIL PROTECTED] will have to reply to each enquiry they will not have time to work :) , this way others also see the answer and good for all of us that didnt order yet (waiting for 900 mhz in openmoko shop) On 7/5/08, Stroller [EMAIL

Re: WLAN not working

2008-07-05 Thread Flyin_bbb8
iwconfig? Or iwlist scanning? On 7/5/08, Christoph Anton Mitterer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I've received my GTA02 yesterday :-) Flashed it to the most recent version (http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Freerunner/)... Unfortunately,... when I try to use WLAN I get this: [EMAIL

discount on invisibleshield protectors

2008-07-05 Thread Flyin_bbb8
Hey everyone and well done OM team for making this great open phone almost in our hands :p i just ordered a full body protection from invisibleshield and got 2 discount codes, anyone who wants just contact me, come first , get first :p ___ Openmoko

Re: Openmoko Webshop Reopen NOW!!!

2008-07-03 Thread Flyin_bbb8
any estimation of when the 900 version will be available? On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 12:31 PM, Harry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, Sorry for delay long time!!! So far, only GSM850 Freerunner is available in stock, Debug board and spare also!!! http://www.openmoko.com/store.html

Re: why infrared should be added to GTA03

2008-06-30 Thread Flyin_bbb8
if we did get an infrared transceiver on the device then we can write a simple software and automate the whole process of recording the sound you take the remote controller, press the button facing the neo IR transceiver , add action name and there you go! :) On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 10:45 PM,

Re: Fast questions about GTA03

2008-06-30 Thread Flyin_bbb8
haha, but you wont even know what FPS you getting :D The glamo is the video controller. If you disable the glamo, you don't get any picture. Well, sure, but think of the bright side: you would have infinite FPS in this video mode! :-P Hans

Re: Fast questions about GTA03

2008-06-30 Thread Flyin_bbb8
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 1:29 AM, Flyin_bbb8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 1:55 PM, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: haha, but you wont even know what FPS you getting :D why not? there are leds and even a speaker -- a led could blink or a voice count audibly ... i

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

2008-06-07 Thread Flyin_bbb8
Well were all those 'never see them' people linux users and interested in openmoko? Haha we might just all be gifted people ! :D On 6/7/08, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 01:30:43 +0100 Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On 6 Jun 2008, at 23:19,

Re: Shipping details

2008-06-07 Thread Flyin_bbb8
So no paypal ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: GSoC project status: Speech Recognition facility in open moko

2008-06-05 Thread Flyin_bbb8
So wouldn't it be a main problem if we change the main applications like the Dialer, the contacts etc? for example from GTK to Qtopia? other way round or anything else? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: GPS -- AGPS

2008-06-05 Thread Flyin_bbb8
actually i believe it does help in much better accuracy (unless if you're indoors) On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 3:11 AM, Lally Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 7:25 PM, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Do 5. Juni 2008 schrieb Lally Singh: AFAIK, the AGPS allows

Re: GPS -- AGPS

2008-06-05 Thread Flyin_bbb8
just wanted to add, Differential GPS is mainly for aircraft GPS systems to get better guidance on the ILS (Instrument Landing System). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: GPS -- AGPS

2008-06-05 Thread Flyin_bbb8
me why they made D-GPS in the first place, and then added the small error in it by the department of defense of the US :) On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 7:46 AM, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Fr 6. Juni 2008 schrieb Flyin_bbb8: just wanted to add, Differential GPS is mainly

Re: Freerunner v. HTC v. ....

2008-05-25 Thread Flyin_bbb8
it seems like there are a couple of magicians around here :) On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 1:36 AM, john [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you can pull a rabbit out of a hat whilst typing on a normal keyboard you are indeed a magician! ___ Openmoko community

Re: 10 or more phones order

2008-04-28 Thread Flyin_bbb8
from my understanding its the first :p but don't know.. On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, may be that i missed the answer but someone asked if the discount and the extra stuff are applied only to the 10 pack or it could also be a 12 pack?

Re: 10 PACK UPDATE!!!

2008-04-27 Thread Flyin_bbb8
well mohamed hazem i'm also left alone with no one around i guess :p, in Doha-Qatar On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Mohamed Hazem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cairo, Egypt. On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mohamed Hazem wrote: What about us the

Re: 10 PACK UPDATE!!!

2008-04-27 Thread Flyin_bbb8
goods from one of your country to the other, with regards to import duty etc.? What about Jordan? Michael Flyin_bbb8 wrote: well mohamed hazem i'm also left alone with no one around i guess :p, in Doha-Qatar On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Mohamed Hazem [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto

Re: Target Market (was: Re: Charger?)

2008-04-20 Thread Flyin_bbb8
It needs lots of advertising, and i think for basic end-users the device should come with something in the settings like Turn on advanced mode to make the shell icon 'n all those techie things to turn on, or else the basic end-users will just see it too complicated 'n stuff 'n start

Re: which applications are usable

2008-04-17 Thread Flyin_bbb8
Marcus can you please inform me of how long the battery lasts on your neo 1973? on average ... On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 16:41 +0200, Eildert Groeneveld wrote: with the Freerunner approaching I wonder which applications are

Re: which applications are usable

2008-04-17 Thread Flyin_bbb8
Thanx kevin, that's no good, when does it start warning about low battery?, or does it even do that? On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:42 AM, Kevin Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Flyin_bbb8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marcus can you please inform me of how long

Re: which applications are usable

2008-04-17 Thread Flyin_bbb8
yea for sure, it's a must. On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 1:04 AM, Kevin Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Flyin_bbb8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanx kevin, that's no good, when does it start warning about low battery?, or does it even do that? It doesn't

Re: Openmoko wallpaper

2008-01-10 Thread Flyin_bbb8
no the picture is in png format 'n high res.and 1639 KB, should be a JPG with ok quality then the size will be much more less then maybe we can put it on the wiki On Jan 11, 2008 1:59 AM, clare [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, THe reduced download time pic is very nice, but I believe if put on the

Re: community@lists.openmoko.org

2007-10-28 Thread Flyin_bbb8
first: this is the community and not the freakin store second: and about allowing other customers screaming at you the employees here don't go on deletin posts 'n s*** for 1 customer because this is about being open and it's community we work together we don't just buy, if u don't want to work as

Re: R: I'm new in this list

2007-10-13 Thread Flyin_bbb8
you haven't heared or something? it's been delayed to mid-december On 10/13/07, Ryan Prior [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: surprise! It's october 07 right now and the GTA02 is nowhere on the horizon. Again, I am not connected to FIC, but it seems apparent to me that we won't see GTA02s ship within

Re: Group purchase/shipping generally

2007-07-03 Thread Flyin_bbb8
yea that would be great, then we can have a section on the wiki where there would be alot of countries and the people in each country can then discuss about the dates and make an agreement On 7/3/07, Thomas Gstädtner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, before some days Hans van der Merwe asked,