Re: Project B guessing game was[ Re: Pat Meier (=public relation of Openmoko)]

buttons. Wouldn't have been a video showing the fade rate of the LCD, would it? Heh, I made no such promises. :P -Scott ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Paroli Testing (Was: Community Updates/February 20, 2009 released)

at is the scrolling of contacts and messages. Currently, trying to capture the thumb on the scroll bar is exceedingly tedious. It will likely take me a couple of weeks to get productive as I fit this in with the rest of my work and life. Cheers Scott Petersen

Re: Replacement Battery with 2300mAh, possible?

. (Google search terms bl-5c 2300mAh, second link) http://www.mail-archive.com/community@lists.openmoko.org/msg15367.html Cheers Scott Petersen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: FBReader now working on the FreeRunner

etc., trying to make sense of how to develop for Openmoko but hadn't been successful yet. You will find that the line spacing issue has been resolved in more recent builds. (Can't remember off hand which one.) In the meantime I am going to enjoy your version. Thanks much. Scott Petersen

Re: Feed updates

that are making me think to switch back to the buildhost feeds. The only thing stopping me is that I have seen information (wiki in particular) that make it unclear if buildhost builds are up to date and related to 2008.8. Cheers Scott Petersen

networking issues

my resolv.conf is blank every time I boot up? I manually set it via ssh through the usb connection. sync. reboot the phone and its blank?? Is there any wifi application available that will detect and connect available networks? Scott ___ Openmoko

Where is it?

I used the spiffy new installer to install xterm. The install went without any errors. Where is it? Its not on the main page? Its listed in the uninstall list of the installer? Scott ___ Openmoko community mailing list community

Battery Charger on usb kaput on 2008.8?

, having the phone sitting plugged into my usb port for a couple hours it went dead! USB always charged it before on the 2007 and qtopia releases! there are only so many fubar hurdles a person can take before capitulation. Scott ___ Openmoko community

Re: Battery Charger on usb kaput on 2008.8?

nope I looked, battery dying while plugged into laptop usb has not been reported. arne anka wrote: see support. has been reported already icl a trac entry. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Battery Charge Solution(Not)

worthless. Scott ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Battery Charger on usb kaput on 2008.8?

level is? For a battery powered device, thats bad. 2.) It does not charge connected to my laptop. Scott Scott wrote: nope I looked, battery dying while plugged into laptop usb has not been reported. arne anka wrote: see support. has been reported already icl a trac entry

Re: Battery Charger on usb kaput on 2008.8?

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2008 WTF??

Well I installed the 2008.8 even though the bug list had 4 or 5 items that basically rendered the phone useless. Booting up... Could it be any more confusing?? First the OM screen, then the standard linux text scrolling, then the boots, then blank, then the boots again, then some more text,

Re: SD Card Fix Fubar

yes Francesco Cat wrote: have you tried a different SD before sending it?? 2008/8/3 Scott Derrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well I think I screwed my SD card reader trying to solder on the GPS fix. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community

Re: GSM detection/identification

. There is a web page with all the site id's on it connected to google maps. Can't remember the address off the top of my head. If you could mash up the site ID's gathered from your phone to the web site Scott There might be an AT command to do just that. On my old razr Paul Buede wrote: Paul Buede

Re: SDcard holder - convenience rework

Nice idea, I wonder how long before the scotch tape becomes brittle from the heat inside there? It really is a PITA getting that card in and out. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list

GSM Stuff

for the SD card rework, Jesus are they tiny! I'm gonna get out my magnifying glass and set one up to evaluate if I think I can solder that grain of sand sized unit or not! I guess its sized so it won't interfere with the card. Scott signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

SD Card Fix Fubar

.. Not sure how to proceed now. Is Openmoko going to be taking FR's back for repairs? Scott ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Freerunner not charging?

it for a few hours and it then showed full I have noticed that sometimes when I plug it in the icon doesn't change to the lightning bolt! Stays green. Why is that? Update problem? Scott signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Freerunner not charging?

Russell Sears wrote: You're hitting a bug that has been fixed in the newest kernel release: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1158 So I can get the latest kernel with ASU, FSO, Qtopia, 2007.2??? Scott signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Openmoko on Design

not what you did. You made it difficult for a programmer to temporarily bring it back, and no way to make it a user selectable option. bah!! Scott signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community

Re: external GSM antenna

Joerg, You realize the MXHS83QE3000 is $69 !!! For a itsy bitty connector? Scott Joerg Reisenweber wrote: The GSM-connector to be found near one of the screws (see [disassembling Neo 1973] in wiki) is: MURATA MM8430-2610RB3 SMD RF TEST PORT For a nice fitting adapter see attached photo

Re: external GSM antenna

! Scott signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: external GSM antenna

I was wrong the price is for one. $32 or $29 Scott signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Flash ASU

Why do the latest ASU folders not have the kernel or root file system files? Scott signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [openmoko-announce] Openmoko on Design

are in the trenches and getting it done. Rock on Neo! Scott Kalle Happonen wrote: Nkoli wrote: Jay, your negative posts on this ML do nothing but foster an unpleasant atmosphere Actually I disagree a bit here. Jay is not trolling but just saying Kalle signature.asc Description: OpenPGP

Re: Openmoko on Design

Charles, While that is a means of bringing the keyboard button back, thats just too damn hard! And I have to do that all over again if I upgrade! Needs to be a simple configuration setting. Scott Charles-Henri Gros wrote: You mean like this? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki

Re: WIKI still a POS

A phone without usable documentation is a door stop. Scott Robert Schuster wrote: I was under the impression that OpenMoko is a company about selling a mobile phone not a community Wiki ... Regards Robert signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: sound

that mwester mentionis on his page. Cheers Scott Petersen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

have the GPS fix and GPS software? If not is there a GPS package I can install on Qtopia? Scott steve wrote: Start with the software fix. It should slove the problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Annie Sent: Sunday, July 20

Re: GSM detection/identification

, registering.. doesn't make a lot of sense either. If you bring up the gsm/status dialog sometimes it will provide a saner reason for no connection, but then sometimes its message is bogus to.. Scott ian douglas wrote: Paul Buede wrote: the coverage isn't great in the rural areas I find myself

WIKI still a POS

to operate the phone is this WIki, its doomed. Isn't there supposed to be some new Wiki Editor force around that was going to fix things? Scott signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community

Re: WIKI still a POS

very small niche product at best. Every time I go to the wiki for new info it is a painful and frustrating process. Yes if I am going to reread something I already know is there its not bad, but ferreting out new information is not easy. Scott Vinc Duran wrote: You should know it's improved

Re: WIKI still a POS

Sean, OK, I'll hop off the box for now. And thanks for letting us know you folks are aware of the problem and working on it. Scott Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: On 7/28/08 Scott Derrick wrote: I agree there have been some improvements. But the main page is still really broken! I would love

Re: sound

/fixes.html I still have suspend resume issues but this works most of the time. Cheers Scott Petersen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

ready to flash

qwerty keyboard that is finger friendly? What is scardy-cat? thanks, Scott Oh, everybody I call says there is an echo on my voice and they can here themselves. I've heard numerous mentions of this problem. Has anybody come up with an audio configuration that doesn't do

Firewall blocks USB ethernet

the firewall? Scott ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: GPS success: updated default software stack with no antenna

Sounds like both fixes are needed for optimal GPS reception. Would be nice to see two fr's side by side, both with the software fix, and one with the cap added competing with each other. Scott ___ Openmoko community mailing list community

Re: GSM Antenna Connector part of Closed System?

the back cover off, look near the GSM antenna, you can see tow recessed screws, next to one of the screws is the external GSM antenna connector. Scott signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community

Re: External GSM Antenna Connector

GPS != GSM signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: GPS software fix, just CRUFT?

Joerg Reisenweber wrote: Am Di 22. Juli 2008 schrieb Scott Derrick: With the GPS hardware fix done(10pf cap installed) are the software changes to the kernel/modules just added cruft? IE. do they add anything useful? SW is definitely better than C, it works on data-rails as well. Those

Re: GPS software fix, just CRUFT?

Benedikt Schindler wrote: Scott Derrick schrieb: IE. do they add anything useful? Scott i think turning off an clock that isn't needed, is always a good thing. power saving rules. ... greenpeace-energy rules (just in germany as far as i know)... :) ... o yeah and OM rules Yes

GSM Antenna Connector part of Closed System?

be on the WIKI? Scott ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Official Openmoko Forums

I'm using an email list -to- news group redirector news.gmane.org just point your news reader at it and select the appropriate openmoko list. works great! No more 300-400 emails clobbering me everyday. Scott signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

External GSM Antenna Connector

Anybody know what the connector type is for connecting an external GSM antenna? I've searched the wiki multiple times to no avail. Scott signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community

Re: GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

/135.0 Scott Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: could anyone recommend a nice solder for such kind of work? (haven't bothered to buy one in the states... in ukraine at the university was using whatever was given ;-)) On Tue, 22 Jul 2008, Tim Schmidt wrote: On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 8:35 PM, steve

Re: Anyone using FR as a phone?

Its hard to believe the distro doesn't come pre-configured with settings that don't produce echo, very low volume, interference? Scott Cédric Berger wrote: People I had on the phone never complained about echo. When I asked, they said there was none. But they often complained about volume

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

does it say what the two settings actually do? Scott Chris wrote: Andy Green wrote: Just a heads-up there is also another relevant patch on stable tonight. ~ It gives another interesting knob to twiddle about GPS performance. http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=commitdiff;h

Re: Anyone using FR as a phone?

in the Tullies, where there was distortion. I hung up, dialed again and it was gone. Never a repeatable event. Its the phone, period. Whether its bad hardware design, bad software design or improper combination of settings is is to be determined. Scott signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: Rules based policy engine

If GPS position is going to be a phone answering rule you would have to have the GPS sub system running all the time. It can't wake from sleep and acquire a position soon enough go be part of the decision. Not sure what that will do to battery life. Scot signature.asc Description: OpenPGP

Re: Rules based policy engine

I thought about it awhile and decided that you could have the GPS engine get a fix every 5 minutes or some user adjustable time frame and use the last known fix. 99% of the time it would probably be close enough. Scott matt joyce wrote: Scott Derrick wrote: If GPS position is going

Re: Rules based policy engine

Problem there is the rule based engine is trying to decide to answer the call, put it to voice mail, vibrate, ring loud, etc... Waiting 30-60 seconds for a cold start fix from the GPS is too long. Scott matt joyce wrote: Or, perhaps use GSM triangulation to trigger GSP fix acquisition

Terminal for ASU

Is it just my inability to find things or is there truly no terminal application for ASU in the standard repositories? Does anybody have any recommendations for a terminal for ASU? I tried to get openmoko-terminal2 to run but it crashes every time. Cheer Scott Petersen

Re: suspend and immediate wake-up

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Re: Reply above Quotation

Hows that? Derick Rethans wrote: On Sat, 19 Jul 2008, enaut wrote: What would help here is if the signature was prepended with -- + new line. For some reason mailman's defaults don't this. If that -- would be there most clients simply strip off the signature. It would be great if that

Re: GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

This is great news. First thing I will do as soon as my FR arrives. Thanks for the lightning fast response. Scott Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu) wrote: Dear Community: For GTA02 SD card interference GPS issue, our hardware team provide a hardware fix/workaround for this coexistence bug. Sorry post

Split the List was Re: Battery Lifetime

I agree, I think it should be split, its getting out of hand. Hardware Software Applications Software Kernel/Boot Administrator etc Scott Pomeroy Lab wrote: I'm thinking of getting out of this mailing list because it fills up my inbox each day. Can someone please create a forum instead

Reply above Quotation

If your going to quote the email your replying to, please reply above the quotation. Its hard enough wading through 300 emails a day without having to page down to see the reply. Scott -- - Those willing to give up a little liberty for a little security deserve neither security nor

Wiki Index was Re: Wiki editors

It appears that th index is already out of date. I was just looking at this locker program http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Quicksand#zedlock looked under software and Nada! Are we aware it is out of date? How many other pages aren't listed? This is a big problem Scott BrendaWang

Re: Wiki search

Can the search provide alternate spellings like google does? Showing the spellings that would provide a hit? This would be very helpful for those spelling challenged among us. Scott Sven Klomp wrote: Dear Brenda, please modify the configuration of the Openmoko wiki, so queries with less

Re: Ears and FR

It would make sense to me to lock it automatically when you seize a call and have some unlock mechanism, be a slider or (Z)edlock if you need to access the screen. Simple and idiot proof. Scott Jeffrey Malone wrote: I think you're way over thinking this matter to seriously consider

Re: Battery Lifetime

Ken, I'm looking for possible solutions or areas to investigate. When my FR's arrive I was going to investigate this area, but wondered how easy it would be without a debug board.. Scott Ken Restivo wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 08:19:38PM -0600, Scott Derrick wrote: I'm amazed

Re: Battery Lifetime

Wow thats fantastic! First I have heard. Gladly I will admit to raising a non-issue, sorry. Scott Adam Talbot wrote: This is all with my FreeRunner. 144 hours, to be exact. Or, about 6 days of stand by time. Something like 4 hours of active talk time. Looks like you could get 8 days and 5

Time share the SD Card , was Re: Reason for GPS problems found!

of compromises. At least thats how I see a possible solution done. I've done similar things in other embedded hardware. Scott BlueStar88 wrote: Andrew Bennett schrieb: From reading between the lines on some of the e-mails from OpenMoko staff, it seems that the interference with the GPS

Re: Battery Lifetime

Chris, you got a SD card plugged in? Scott Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: How are you doing this? If I fully charge my GTA02 battery before I go to bed,.. it will be nearly empty when I wake up (I seep 7-8 hours),... Dim+nolock is choosen, as dim+lock seems to crash the device and I have

Re: In the press

of the project so there is coherence, timeliness and to reduce the outdated and inaccurate information. Scott Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: Jay Vaughan wrote: This stood out for me The tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation at the OpenMoko wiki... Is this an accurate

Re: ***SPAM*** Re: In the press

to the plate to provide a WikiBoss that can provide the standard, organize volunteers to police their areas of expertise. Unless this of some other kind of oversight is done any new wiki will degenerate into the state of the current wiki in short order. Scott Curtis Vaughan wrote: Since Ken

Re: In the press. The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation.

for the design and layout of the Wiki so things are easier to find. You can't rely on the search engine, it sucks.. I think that was the point of the person who recommended the OpenWRT Wiki. Its design and format was easy to use and helped you find things instead of thwarting you. Scott

Battery Lifetime

, or make a call, get a gps fix, etc.. But I seriously can't use it as anything but a desk toy with that kind of battery life. Is there an ACPI or some other kind of power monitor built in that is granular enough for somebody to work on this problem using software? Scott -- - Rightful liberty

Re: Any update on Windows connectivity yet?

Vinc, Don't tell me your a Windoze Weeniee! Say it isn't so! hehe!! Scott Vinc Duran wrote: I'm interested too. I'd be willing to help test windows apps or tools for openmoko. Vinc On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 2:32 PM, ian douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One

Re: Anyone using FR as a phone?

I don't get some people have experienced audio issues? Is this an indication of the level of quality control in manufacture ring? Scott steve wrote: I use mine. My kids used theirs till I gave it away to somebody else. That said, some people have expereince audio issues. Engineering

Re: Is Multi-touch in Freerunner's Future?

I agree, one of the coolest features of the IPhone is its multi touch capability to zoom or do multi select. Scott Charles Pax wrote: Will we ever see multi-touch on the current Freerunner hardware revision? I remember hearing something about how it's supported by the hardware, but we're

Re: External Cell Antenna

Yes it would! A list of connectors would be nice too. Scott steve wrote: Well, perhaps We should consider releasing PDFs of the schematics. Would that help? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Derrick Sent: Tuesday, July 08

Re: In the press

In my opinion , the Wiki sucks Very difficult to find any useful information. Scott Vinc Duran wrote: I think it's accurate. On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:41 PM, Matt Joyce [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found this yesterday, thought it was quite an ok article

GSM Data

When i finally get my FreeRunner is there an application available that will display GSM data? Which tower, signal strength, noise, etc. Scott -- - Those willing to give up a little liberty for a little security deserve neither security nor liberty. Benjamin Franklin

Found it.(GSM antenna port)

the connector is in the same place. Scott -- - Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add within the limits of the law, because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates

Sims

://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Carriers/ATT Scott -- - Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add within the limits of the law, because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates

External Cell Antenna

or will it just use it? Scott -- - Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add within the limits of the law, because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights

Re: External Cell Antenna

That is great news!! Just what I needed Scott Florian Hackenberger wrote: The port for the GSM antenna is under the cover according to [1]: Accessible GSM/GPRS antenna jack (if battery cover is removed) [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware

Re: resolution preferences??

a Palm TX as my PDA and find that the 320 x 480 screen still does not have the resolution to make the browsing experience anything but painful. Cheers Scott Petersen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http

Re: Qtopia coming for Neo1973

set the alsa levels using gsmhandset.state. This is by far the most usable my neo has ever been, so I will most likely keep using the qtopia image until the moko images do calling and sms without as much fiddling around. cheers to qtopia, -scott Mike Hodson wrote: On 9/18/07, Michael Schmidt

Re: $3000 roaming Iphone/ATT story

UPDATE, 12:18PM PT: Dave says, ATT just called and agreed to waive all charges due to the 'miscommunication.' I think they have a customer for life now. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.boingboing.net/2007/07/31/att_iphone_intl_roam.html; I guess that happens if you dont know what you

Re: mailing list management

-scott Ortwin Regel wrote: Learn to use Gmail. Also it's relevant for everything where you can only see the first X letters of a topic in your list of emails. Like pretty much every mail client and webmail interface out there. So adding the tags to the end of the subject line is a pretty good idea

Re: imei number

At least on my phone, this was printed out underneath the battery, inside the case :) cheers! -scott Emre Turkay wrote: Hi folks, Does anybody know how can I see the IMEI number? Thanks, emre ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community

Re: What is the FCC ID of the neo1973?

mine has it printed under the battery: fcc id: EUNGTA01BV4 cheers -scott Adam Krikstone wrote: I see no mention of it anywhere on the wiki or lists. Does anyone know the FCC ID? -adam ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community

Re: 3G sim cards

and/or the 3g sim card, and not the neo itself. Fwiw, the sim contacts on both of the sims appear slightly different. I do not know enough about sim cards to know how significant that is. Cheers, -scott Harrison Metzger wrote: I agree. The neo should work with the largest US provider. I

Re: 3G sim cards

Mark Eichin wrote: and I am able to make outgoing calls successfully. Even got the audio working after some fuss ;) What fuss in particular? I can play audio with madplay, but have yet to get phone calls to use the speaker (the dialer connects and picks up fine...) Right before you

Re: 3G sim cards

Chalk another one up for CME ERROR due to the cingular/att 'fireball' 3g sim card.. However, it is interesting to note, that I am getting CME ERROR 13 (sim failure), rather than CME ERROR 10 (sim not inserted). Just got my neo, so still trying.. :) -Scott Joe Pfeiffer wrote: Harrison

Re: Shipping, Billing, etc

? Maybe Not? Ah well, whats another week, right? cheers -scott Peter Trapp wrote: YES_I_DID :) or better we = group purchasing :) From our side everything went fine (#1952 - also not that fare away from Jason (#1820) if this mean something at all). I'm just curios... Rodolphe Ortalo

Re: Crossroads

by September. But it will take a community, research, dedication, and time from many individuals. We are at the beginning. Cheers, and I can't wait for phase 1. -Scott ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http

Re: Crossroads

:) ? Cheers -scott ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: open-source Java VM for openmoko?

/openembedded-devel/2006-December/001036.html Scott Bob Deanna wrote: Hello all, Will a Java VM, such as JamVM (see http://jamvm.sourceforge.net/) be a part of the openmoko software stack? I think this is a very exciting effort! Regards, Bob