Re: shr screen lock
Am Sonntag, den 05.04.2009, 15:07 +0200 schrieb Previdi Roberto: > Hello list. I would like to know if there is a way to change the image > showed when i press the aux button to lock screen in SHR. Actually it > prevents me both pressing something on the screen (good thing) and > seeing what happens in the center of the screen (bad thing). > I would like to use a little image, maybe on the bottom of the screen, > but i don't know wich is the package to look at.. You can find this in the theme files of Illume. You need to decompile them... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: AW: Multicast over USB?
Hm. Would you please paste the code somewhere? Did you bind it to the right interface(s)? Am Sonntag, den 05.04.2009, 09:17 + schrieb hab keen oh ne: > Corrected Multivast to Multicast^^ > Well, Multicast seems to be running on the usb network devices > Here the output on the FR: > > usb0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr BE:23:B2:E6:9C:21 > inet addr:192.168.0.202 Bcast:192.168.0.255 > Mask:255.255.255.0 > inet6 addr: fe80::bc23:b2ff:fee6:9c21/64 Scope:Link > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > RX packets:137 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:118 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 > RX bytes:16976 (16.5 KiB) TX bytes:14411 (14.0 KiB) > > and here on my host(unfortunately in German): > > usb0 Link encap:Ethernet Hardware Adresse 92:3C:A3:BC:33:8B > inet Adresse:192.168.0.200 Bcast:192.168.0.255 > Maske:255.255.255.0 > inet6 Adresse: fe80::903c:a3ff:febc:338b/64 > Gültigkeitsbereich:Verbindung > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > RX packets:78 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:90 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > Kollisionen:0 Sendewarteschlangenlänge:1000 > RX bytes:8681 (8.4 KiB) TX bytes:13249 (12.9 KiB) > > > > __ > Von: Sebastian Billaudelle > An: List for Openmoko community discussion > > Gesendet: Sonntag, den 5. April 2009, 08:26:10 Uhr > Betreff: Re: Multivast over USB? > > Am Samstag, den 04.04.2009, 16:06 + schrieb hab keen oh ne: > > Hi, > > Im currently working with multicast for my internship at a > university. > > Sounds interesting:) > > > A universitie's guy said, that probably Multicast isnt supported > over > > USB, is that right? > > Would you please attach the output of "ifconfig" on your Neo and PC? > On some interfaces MCast is disabled by default. You can change this > by > adding a route. > > Cheers, > Sebastian > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone (0.20 - alpha release) Elementary based mplayer frontend
Wow! That's great! Thanks for that great player! Am Samstag, den 04.04.2009, 23:59 -0700 schrieb c_c: > Hi, > Well, it took a lot longer than I thought - but finally - here's the alpha > release of Intone - a mplayer frontend (for audio files - as of now) in C. > Uses about 2% CPU (max) while running - memory goes up depending on your > playlist - on my phone (~2500 songs) it uses about 15%. > All you need to do is download the attached ipk and install it. Intone > depends on sqlite3 and libelementary. If you have elementary on your phone > upgraded to a level where the elementary test application shows you a demo of > sliders and genlists, Intone should run on your phone. > The recommended way to organise music is to put all the files in a folder > (lets say Music), with sub folders named after artists (say Music ->Eagles) > and with sub sub folders holding albums (that becomes Music->Eagles->Hell > Freezes Over->*.mp3). That way, Intone can correctly organise your music > collection into albums. It automatically creates a default playlist > containing all songs and individual playlists for each album. I have added > features to manage playlists and albums - but there is always scope for > improvement. > Intone uses a sqlite database as a backend for the playlists and albums. > That should, hopefully, give flexibility in adding more features later. > >Things that don't work as of now :- > > 1. Feedback. - I haven't been able to add dialogs yet. So - wait a little > while for Intone to finish long operations (like adding your music collection > for the first time - my 2500 odd songs took about 6 secs - the button remains > pressed too) > 2. Dialogs for deleting stuff. It's safe - Intone does not delete any files - > but it does delete tables(albums and playlists) - and it doesn't yet ask for > confirmation. > 3. Seek. Dont know how to use the slider for seeking. Any Ideas? > 4. DBUS. - Haven't gotten around to learning edbus - so no occupy resouce CPU > or pause on incoming calls yet. Will take some more time. > 5. Album art and lyrics. - Don't yet know the best way to go about doing this > other than downloading art from some retailers etc. Ideas welcome. > 6. Toggle View. Not working yet. I intend having 2 more views - Album Art and > Lyrics. > > I'm also looking at adding support for the button that the standard > handsfree has - as a volume control (3 preselcted levels in rotation) or to > go to next song (1 click) and prev song (2 clicks). Any suggestions? > > Since I also have half a podcast manager built (which I couldn't finish in > time for the competition) - I'm also looking at adding that support in the > future. > > Feedback Required > 1. Bug reports. > 2. Artwork - Ideas / png's / whatever > 3. Elementary help. I have a lot of questions. Here are a few :- > a) How do I reduce the vert height of 1 entry in the genlist? Right now > each line in the list is too high (almost 3 text lines high) - so I get only > about 4 song names on the screen. Can I reduce the height to say 1.5 text > line - 2 text line? > b) How do I use the pager with a genlist? In my case the pager works - > but it doesn't show the genlist - the buttons all show up though. > c) Dialogs and progress bars. I know elementary doesn't have them - but > can I make/have a simple ty solution for the time being? > > Oh! And I'm only adding .oga, .mp3, .m4a and wma files into the albums. Any > other types I need to add? > > I'll upload the code to intone.googlecode.com soon. > All feedback welcome. Thanks. > intone_0.20_arm.ipk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Multivast over USB?
Am Samstag, den 04.04.2009, 16:06 + schrieb hab keen oh ne: > Hi, > Im currently working with multicast for my internship at a university. Sounds interesting:) > A universitie's guy said, that probably Multicast isnt supported over > USB, is that right? Would you please attach the output of "ifconfig" on your Neo and PC? On some interfaces MCast is disabled by default. You can change this by adding a route. Cheers, Sebastian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Back to the basics: improving user experience
Am Donnerstag, den 16.10.2008, 10:13 -0700 schrieb SCarlson: > > I would love to see the rotation/scaling bugs finished up Bug #1244. It > has evolved as far as symptoms, > both scaling to low res 320x240 and rotation yield incorrect x,y > coordinates. (Although going through tslib directly works fine, showing that > it is glamo issue) > > Would be nice to have this year + issue laid to rest, that would open the > doors to some of our game developers and add to the overall functionality of > the gui interfaces being created. > > There have been two patches made available, one that fixes rotation and one > that independantly fixes scaling, but I havnt seen an overall solution, or > at least havn't seen the solution show up in the repo. > > Scott > > > John Lee wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Like Wolfgang said in > > http://n2.nabble.com/Weekly-Engineering-News-41-2008-td1336450.html > > > > We assembled a team to focus on improving the user experience. Here > > is our todo list at the moment: > > > > * Reduce boot time. > > > > * Optimize the touch screen driver on freerunner for finger usage. > > > > * A generic python loader to enhance the start up time of python > > scripts. > > > > * Work with system team to improve suspend/resume user experience. > > > > > > I would like to ask the community: > > > > What do you want us to work on? > > > > > > The idea is > > > > * We improve the current stack, not creating new features. > > > > * Prefer stuffs which could be brought over to gta03 instead of > > gta02/om2008 specific. > > > > * won't work on om2007 stack. > > > > > > So, tell us what you want, then the coding monkeys will start working! > > :) > > > > > > Regards, > > John > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > +1 I think this will help us to improve (X) performance for every image... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Rasterman Image...
Hi there! I've got one question... Since this image is using a much richer theme things like kinetic scrolling of lists get really slow. I tried to lower the device's resolution and it was much faster! The only problem: There is something wrong with the colors when using 'xrandr -s 240x320'... Is there any way to fix that? -- Sebastian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: delay in recieving mails
Same here! Am Sonntag, den 15.06.2008, 23:26 +0200 schrieb arne anka: > i get every mail more or less 2h after it is sent (polling the account ist > set to 15min), though the archive > (http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-June/date.html) > displays them much earlier. > is this intended? > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Please do not send me any Microsoft Office documents - I won't accept them! See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html for more information! Sorry! signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Cleared to start Mass production
Wow! I can't believe it;-) Thanks! Am Donnerstag, den 05.06.2008, 08:12 -0700 schrieb steve: > The latest update I have from the factory indicates that mass Production ( > that means running the SMT line without stopping to check stuff every two > seconds) has been CLEARED TO START. > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis > Wollersheim > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 9:16 PM > To: List for Openmoko community discussion > Subject: Re: OpenMOKO availbility > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > It will be available soon (within one month would be my guess). Does anyone > else have a better guess? > > You cannot book an order at present. I reckon they will be able to ship to > Pakistan. > > Cheers > Dennis > > Masoom Alam wrote: > > Hi every one, > > > > I wanted to ask, that when the latest version of the openmoko will be > > available (seems a stupid question, as we can see a lot of posts on > > the mailing list :)). > > Actually, I dont want to wait for one year this time, therefore asking > > this question. > > > > Plus, is there is any possiblity at the moment to book an order for me > > in advance now? > > > > Plus, I want to ship the latest version to Pakistan, any > > recommendation in this regard? > > > > Regards, > > MM Alam > > > > > > > > > > -- > > -- > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > - -- > - --- > Dennis Wollersheim > Lecturer, Health Information Management > La Trobe University > Bundoora Victoria 3086 > Room HS1:110 > (03) 9479 1763 (bh) > 0414 529 454 (mobile) > http://homepage.cs.latrobe.edu.au/dewoller > - --- > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with MultiZilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFIRMWF41ROt9TlFkoRAhFTAJ9DvMdVl2bbtGUHJFG2nR8Dde9mOgCg/KlF > E4wU+XXesXAVFoo0dvnJLck= > =GOB0 > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Please do not send me any Microsoft Office documents - I won't accept them! See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html for more information! Sorry! signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Europe Distribution
Yes, you're right! Pulster isn't taking any pre-orders. But I do no think that you get your freerunner later, since Pulster is the OFFICIAL PARTNER! C. Pulster said he's the opinion that is is unserious to sell a phone that's not released or has a fixed price... I think that's right! cheers Sebastian Am Freitag, den 23.05.2008, 06:24 +0200 schrieb Marnix Klooster: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello Harry, > > |> Steven Le Roux wrote: > |>> To resume, there are some dsitributors : > |>> > |>> France : Bearstech > |>> Germany : TRIsoft > > | Marco Trevisan (Treviño) 提到: > |> > |> Again there's also Pulster for Germany (and rest of Europe too). > > On 23-05-08 04:53, Harry Tsai wrote: > | Hi all, > | Currently, "ONLY PULSTER" is openmoko official partner in Germany and EU > | and He also is our first partner in world. > > That makes me a bit curious-- when I looked more than a month ago, only > TRIsoft took pre-orders of the FreeRunner, and Pulster didn't; or at > least I couldn't find any indication. > > So I ordered a FreeRunner from TRIsoft. > > Does that mean that I get my phone later than Pulster customers? What > does it mean for me that TRIsoft is not an official Openmoko partner? > > As I said, just curious... > > Groetjes, > ~ <>< > Marnix > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFINkbrjn9v+6JsL6sRAse6AJ9Wej+cNc7kOJG6MDtfSbkVMIeuWwCfeSHH > LybCl2XpdGnAKr7l3DjSFPQ= > =Q9sX > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Please do not send me any Microsoft Office documents - I won't accept them! See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html for more information! Sorry! signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Europe Distribution
pulster.eu seems to be the first OFFICIAL distributor in europe! Freerunner -> 299€ cheers Sebastian Am Donnerstag, den 22.05.2008, 16:53 +0200 schrieb Steven Le Roux: > > > On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Joachim Steiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Steven Le Roux wrote: > > What about Europe distribution ;). Let's come back to the > subject :) > > > > well.. i think that was already answered somewhere in the > thread in > other words, but here my short version: > > afaik there will be 2 possibilities: > > - order at the openmoko us based webshop. > - pay in us$ > - pay the (to europe quite high but not unusual) higher > shipping fee > - if not in the us: pay the VAT/sales tax of the target > country on > recieving the package to the ups guy (usually in cash) > - use a CC (currently JCB, VISA, MASTER. _no_ AMEX afaik) > > - order at a local distributor > - pay the local currency > - pay for shipping if you do not pick it up yourself > - pay the regional tax/vat of your county directly with the > device and > shipping > > so the bottomline is: us customers as well as worldwide can > very easily > order directly at openmoko. but if you do not want to have the > hassle of > transatlantic shipping, different currencies etc or want > local > warranty, buy at a local distributor. > > i guess due to the shipping costs its cheaper and less hassle > to order > single devices directly at a distributor. also these could > have > different payment methods, but thats their decision. > > > kind regards > > -- > > Joachim Steiger > Openmoko Central Services > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > To resume, there are some dsitributors : > > France : Bearstech > Germany : TRIsoft > > we don't already know conditions, and prices with Bearstech, but > TRIsoft seems to be arrested to 350€ incl VAT (plus fee's shipment) > > -- > Steven Le Roux > Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Please do not send me any Microsoft Office documents - I won't accept them! See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html for more information! Sorry! signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Recognition of Handwriting
Hi there! While surfing around I found an very nice app called CellWriter (http://risujin.org/cellwriter/). I tried it out using my mouse... I think it's much better then the Windows Mobile stuff! I think it should be no problem to get it fitting to our needs... cheers Sebastian Please do not send me any Microsoft Office documents - I won't accept them! See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html for more information! Sorry! signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New List?
+1 Am Montag, den 28.04.2008, 17:03 +0200 schrieb Dirk Deimeke: > Hi, > > just a question. > > Do you think that it makes sense to put the distribution questions to a new > mailing list? > > This community list gets flooded with "group sales" messages. > > Dirk > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Please do not send me any Microsoft Office documents - I won't accept them! See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html for more information! Sorry! signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Video Playback virtually impossible on Neo Freerunner? (Re: Video of Qt 4.4 on Neo1973: brings iPhone like graphics)
Am Montag, den 28.04.2008, 15:12 +0300 schrieb Mikko Rauhala: > Really peeps, face it, seems that the sane way to do non-crappy video on > the Freerunner is to get driver support for that Glamo mpeg-4 decoding > (remember, the hardware is capable). Hopefully everyone's grasping at > straws makes OM bump up the priority a bit (though again, for now there > are certainly more important things to do). > I'm not sure whether the glamo is able to do mpeg-4 decoding. I just watched the website of this chip (http://www.smediatech.com/product3362.htm) and there you can read the following: "The Glamo3365 Mobile Multimedia coProcessor boasts a 5M pixels digital photo resolution image processor. The MPEG4 codec enables 30 frames per second in up to VGA resolution, producing life-like video quality on a mobile phone display." There is nothing about the 3362 (used in FR), isn't it? Please correct me if I'm wrong... Sebastian Billaudelle Please do not send me any Microsoft Office documents - I won't accept them! See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html for more information! Sorry! signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
How to develop such a "phone sock"?
OK, my mother is quite good at knitting, but... ;-)
I could post some design proposals...
cheers
Sebastian
P.S.: I asked my mother and some neighbours:
- charger
- pouch
- lanyard
nothing else...
Am Montag, den 14.04.2008, 12:36 -0700 schrieb steve:
> Ok thanks dirk.
>
> Frankly, some people thought the pouch sucked.
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> If I ship a pouch, you have no choice. you get my pouch.
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> My opinion: it's a phone sock.
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> Ideally I would love to have the community
> develop this accessory if they want it.
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dirk Deimeke
> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 1:56 AM
> To: community@lists.openmoko.org
> Subject: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
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> Hi,
>
> I spoke to my wife ("typical" end user).
>
> She expects a
> - computer independent charger
> - headset
> - pouch
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> Best regards
>
> Dirk
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Ich aktzeptiere keine MS Office Dokumente, weil sie
1. kein ISO Standard sind,
2. bewusst schlecht entwickelt sind und
3. nicht für alle zugänglich sind!
Benutze bitte das "Open Document Format" - jeder kann es kostenlos
öffnen - auch noch in tausenden von Jahren!
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Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
My opinion: + USB-cable is essentially! I think the nice FreeRunner won't look nice with a self-made cable... + pouch + lanyard (this is something Moko-specific like the pouch...) - no stylus - no SD-card (1/2 GByte are too small, more are too expensive) - no headset (some want big ones, others small ones...) cheers Sebastian Am Montag, den 14.04.2008, 16:48 +0200 schrieb Kevin Zuber: > I totally agree with you, Marco! > But I would like to add two important things: > -The Pouch is more important than "needed" for me, it's essential. It > will always be there, when I'm not using it, I also don't want a > "no-name" pouch, because I like that one with the word "openmoko" on it, > because it is simply great! I also like this "neoprene"-outfit. > > -The MicroSD is less than optional, because here in germany (don't know > about other countries) you get an xxSD card really everywhere for just a > few euros. Another point is, that I can buy that size I want to buy > (depends on the money I would like to spend on it). > > Two notices for optional gadgets: > -Lanyard: I don't think one with "openmoko" on it is a standard part, > and I like it :) (I also think it's a really cheap but great part) > > -Headset: Every ones ears are other ears: small, big... and because of > the standard port every headset should work. I also thought that the > openmoko (GTA01) headset has no mic. Correct me if I'm wrong. > > Kevin > > > Am Montag, den 14.04.2008, 02:35 +0200 schrieb "Marco Trevisan > (Treviño)": > > steve ha scritto: > > > Many people have voiced there opinion to me about what EXTRAS they would > > > like in the box ( most of them legal) so, the team will make a decision. > > > We won't please everybody, but it will be a rational decision, based on > > > cost of the extra goodies, availability, and importance, and your feedback > > > > I do think that the needed goodies to have a market-ready device are: > > - AC Charger (better if "custom") > > - Headset (with mic?) > > - Pouch (well, I figure our Freerunner will be there most of the time!) > > - Stylus > > > > Optional: > > - MicroSD > > - USB Cable > > - Lanyard > > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Ich aktzeptiere keine MS Office Dokumente, weil sie 1. kein ISO Standard sind, 2. bewusst schlecht entwickelt sind und 3. nicht für alle zugänglich sind! Benutze bitte das "Open Document Format" - jeder kann es kostenlos öffnen - auch noch in tausenden von Jahren! signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: next costumers location
I think that's the point. If anybody wants to do that, OK... But I don't want to see the openmoko-/fic-people involved in such a thing - that's unethical! "Open" does not mean "anarchistic". We are part of our states and we have to pay for that privilege... cheers Sebastian Am Sonntag, den 13.04.2008, 12:17 +0200 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: > Am 13.04.2008 um 12:00 schrieb flexd: > > If ordering from the US (or anywhere really), would it be possible > > to have the package marked as a gift to evade taxes and such? > > Norwegian taxes are high, so we'll probably pay like half a phone > > extra >_< > > I would say: only if it really is a gift. > Everything else is unethical and criminal... > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Ich aktzeptiere keine MS Office Dokumente, weil sie 1. kein ISO Standard sind, 2. bewusst schlecht entwickelt sind und 3. nicht für alle zugänglich sind! Benutze bitte das "Open Document Format" - jeder kann es kostenlos öffnen - auch noch in tausenden von Jahren! signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Loosing your moko
Yes, i think a "normal" hijacker has no skills to flash the image - it is unusual with normal phones. I think nearly all of them don't know about a function like the one we are discussing here. But i think there is another problem: I don't know if it legal to track the position of a person without his/her permission - even if he/she has stolen my phone... Will the cops be allowed to use this information? There are lots of crazy laws... Is a lawyer here on this list? cheers Sebatsian Am Mittwoch, den 09.04.2008, 13:59 +0200 schrieb Didier Raboud: > Denis wrote: > > > Then why on Earth would a hijacker use standard image? > > Because the Neos will always be one particular phone in a sea of other > phones (even in an ocean of other phone _types_). I was assuming that the > hijacker were only random hijackers targetting all possible phones to just > resell them... > > The way of properly flash a Neo with a custom image actually needs and will > probably need particular hardware and skills - things that a lambda > hijacker will probably not have (he will only if he specifically targets > Neos...). > > Anyway, I agree that there is no easy solution to this particular problem. > > I always thought that the IMEI was used (by lawly authorised persons) to > track all the mobile phones geographically - if this is the case, it should > exist for the Neos. > > Regards, > > Didier > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Ich aktzeptiere keine MS Office Dokumente, weil sie 1. kein ISO Standard sind, 2. bewusst schlecht entwickelt sind und 3. nicht für alle zugänglich sind! Benutze bitte das "Open Document Format" - jeder kann es kostenlos öffnen - auch noch in tausenden von Jahren! signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB 2.0 insted of USB 1.1
That's what I meant... Am Sonntag, den 06.04.2008, 23:29 +0200 schrieb Flemming Richter Mikkelsen: > On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Sebastian Billaudelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > There is no such thing as an "USB 2.0 cable". It is called "USB > > cable". There is no difference between a cable used for USB 1.0, 1.1 > > or 2.0. > > > > Yes, there is! With USB 1.x you afaik can use longer cables! But normally > > you are right. For normal use there is no difference! > > That is only directly related to the transfer speed:) > It is the same with TP cables and anything else. Lower speed - longer distance > > Ich aktzeptiere keine MS Office Dokumente, weil sie 1. kein ISO Standard sind, 2. bewusst schlecht entwickelt sind und 3. nicht für alle zugänglich sind! Benutze bitte das "Open Document Format" - jeder kann es kostenlos öffnen - auch noch in tausenden von Jahren! signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB 2.0 insted of USB 1.1
> There is no such thing as an "USB 2.0 cable". It is called "USB > cable". There is no difference between a cable used for USB 1.0, 1.1 > or 2.0. Yes, there is! With USB 1.x you afaik can use longer cables! But normally you are right. For normal use there is no difference! cheers Sebastian signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Loosing your moko
Why not merge all this ideas? Could anyone try to implement this? If not, I'll do it in summer (when I'll buy a freerunner;-))... cheers Sebastian Am Donnerstag, den 03.04.2008, 19:01 +0100 schrieb Joseph Reeves: > True, but frankly there's a lot of bad stuff that could happen if > someone malicious got that level of access to our servers... > > > On 03/04/2008, andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > Joseph Reeves wrote: > > > I think it would be quite likely that a phone thief/finder would > > > change the SIM, either because they want to use it themselves, or > > > because they want to sell it. I'd do the following: > > > > > > Set up a script so that the phone regularly connects to a server you > > > control, downloads the contents of a folder executes them. Say once > > > every six hours, just for argument's sake. The contents of this folder > > > would usually be empty, but as soon as you realised that your phone > > > was missing you upload the GPS/SMS/mass deletion script that you've > > > been saving for months. That way, it doesn't matter about whatever the > > > bad folk has done to your phone (as long as the flash hasn't been > > > wiped); it will connect up (you'll discover it's IP address - likely > > > to be useful) and will execute the commands you want. > > > > > > This is something I'm probably going to look into implementing within > > > a corporate environment within the near future. > > > > > > Joseph > > > > > > > Only problem with that is that if someone hacked into that folder, he > > could wipe all your neo's in one move :) > > > > > > 2c worth > > > > Andy > > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) > > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > > > iD8DBQFH9RdgauMjEM4rxIQRAuWEAJ46VdnU2Xk5ar6CNFIMaU8Ftiy9DACgjZ+1 > > CCvhtSh3T+QXVY4U2gUOvBU= > > =2Asi > > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > > > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Ich aktzeptiere keine MS Office Dokumente, weil sie 1. kein ISO Standard sind, 2. bewusst schlecht entwickelt sind und 3. nicht für alle zugänglich sind! Benutze bitte das "Open Document Format" - jeder kann es kostenlos öffnen - auch noch in tausenden von Jahren! signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Loosing your moko
Hi there! I thought about the risk of loosing the moko or of getting it stolen... I got the following idea: If you can't find you moko, you only have to send an SMS with a special keyword/passphrase to your moko. It recognises the special text and sends the current coordinates to a server. So you can see it's position. cheers Sebastian signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko strives for openness (smedia glamo)
I think it would be the best way... And why is it not fair? He would be a "real" part of the project. What's wrong with that? cheers Sebastian Am Donnerstag, den 03.04.2008, 23:17 +0800 schrieb Wolfgang Spraul: > I like this idea, I think this is legally OK and if we are open and > honest about it, may even become an accepted practice known to our > vendors. > Need to do some more checks on that... > Wolfgang > > On Apr 3, 2008, at 9:44 PM, Harald Welte wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 09:32:31AM +0100, Tom Cooksey wrote: > >> On Sunday 30 March 2008 13:42:23 Harald Welte wrote: > >>> Please note though, that being one of the persons who drafted the > >>> wording on the contract between Smedia and OpenMoko: The contract > >>> contains explicit provisions for OpenMoko preparing a set of > >>> documentation for the Glamo chip, not carbon-copying from the > >>> original > >>> NDA'd docs, and then cooperating with Smedia to jointly release that > >>> new manual. > >>> > >>> However, I doubt that given the current load and priority situation, > >>> there would be anyone doing paid work on that set of new > >>> documentation. > >> > >> As one (perhaps only one?) who volunteered to start work on a DRM > >> driver > >> for the glamo (the first step to 3D), I can confirm that the NDA > >> OpenMoko > >> has with SMedia prevents them from releasing any docs to 3rd parties, > >> with or without an NDA. > > > > what if you become part of openmoko? Just sign some kind of work > > contract (like other freelancers had and still have with openmoko), > > but with only USD 1 in return for your work, adding a clause that you > > keep the copyright on your work? > > > > This way you are legally part of openmoko, have access to the docs, > > and > > can work on the code. > > -- > > - Harald Welte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > http://openmoko.org/ > > = > > = > > = > > = > > = > > = > > == > > Software for the world's first truly open Free Software mobile phone > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Ich aktzeptiere keine MS Office Dokumente, weil sie 1. kein ISO Standard sind, 2. bewusst schlecht entwickelt sind und 3. nicht für alle zugänglich sind! Benutze bitte das "Open Document Format" - jeder kann es kostenlos öffnen - auch noch in tausenden von Jahren! signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
