Re: GSM Firmware Flashed, now UBIFS problem and Kernel Panic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi.. I appreciate all the help you're all giving me.. On 04/14/2011 06:30 PM, sferic wrote: > to mount a ubifs you should give another way a try: > > cat /proc/mtd > ubiattach /dev/ubi_ctrl -m 6 -d 0 -O 2048 > mkdir /tmp/qtmoko > mount -t ubifs ubi0_0 /tmp/qtmoko/ I tried that just now.. same result, though.. :( root@neo:~# cat /proc/mtd dev:size erasesize name mtd0: 0020 0001 "physmap-flash.0" mtd1: 0004 0002 "qi" mtd2: 0004 0002 "depr-ub-env" mtd3: 0080 0002 "kernel" mtd4: 000a 0002 "depr" mtd5: 0004 0002 "identity-ext2" mtd6: 0f6a 0002 "rootfs" root@neo:~# ubiattach /dev/ubi_ctrl -m 6 -d 0 -O 2048 UBI device number 0, total 1972 LEBs (250396672 bytes, 238.8 MiB), available 0 LEBs (0 bytes), LEB size 126976 bytes (124.0 KiB) root@neo:~# mkdir /tmp/qtmoko root@neo:~# mount -t ubifs ubi0_0 /tmp/qtmoko/ mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on ubi0_0, missing codepage or helper program, or other error (for several filesystems (e.g. nfs, cifs) you might need a /sbin/mount. helper program) In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so here's my dmesg about it: [ 1255.13] UBI: attaching mtd6 to ubi0 [ 1255.13] UBI: physical eraseblock size: 131072 bytes (128 KiB) [ 1255.13] UBI: logical eraseblock size:126976 bytes [ 1255.13] UBI: smallest flash I/O unit:2048 [ 1255.13] UBI: sub-page size: 512 [ 1255.13] UBI: VID header offset: 2048 (aligned 2048) [ 1255.13] UBI: data offset:4096 [ 1255.46] UBI: attached mtd6 to ubi0 [ 1255.46] UBI: MTD device name:"rootfs" [ 1255.46] UBI: MTD device size:246 MiB [ 1255.46] UBI: number of good PEBs:1972 [ 1255.46] UBI: number of bad PEBs: 1 [ 1255.46] UBI: max. allowed volumes: 128 [ 1255.46] UBI: wear-leveling threshold:4096 [ 1255.46] UBI: number of internal volumes: 1 [ 1255.46] UBI: number of user volumes: 1 [ 1255.46] UBI: available PEBs: 0 [ 1255.46] UBI: total number of reserved PEBs: 1972 [ 1255.46] UBI: number of PEBs reserved for bad PEB handling: 19 [ 1255.46] UBI: max/mean erase counter: 15/4 [ 1255.46] UBI: image sequence number: 0 [ 1255.47] UBI: background thread "ubi_bgt0d" started, PID 1413 [ 1269.12] UBIFS error (pid 1416): ubifs_read_node: bad node type (255 but expected 6) [ 1269.12] UBIFS error (pid 1416): ubifs_read_node: bad node at LEB 0:0 I worry that I lost my data here.. :'( so bad.. here[1] it's written that UBIFS is so robust, though, and virtually indestructible.. that website states that the tools to recover have not been written yet, though.. is that so? [1] http://www.linux-mtd.infradead.org/doc/ubifs.html Cheers, - -- Thomas - -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ ...speed is a virtue, but we have finally reached the point of computational affluence where other things are more important. - Dan Ingalls - -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNqAyVAAoJEOLs7+64bK+eBSYH/Al498zjeYs0sgONbYdNmO64 Kkv3GGvlBuhP7B0IPzGRa2d+kXASkU4krYgnUIbSUJRRfiZenhY06Vw8Pu19ZF6l O0vlXAfkhfAoSOlpnmz0DxIeLkF6Ga71r783OFsXNau5I+2UTtba7AXeQu8ePCk0 TwDKF+K2XHDgRUp206A3N3k8UOx8GSlDR4VtUaj5hl+2tDqhPd1A3joDn2vsWATW NH/pFHHunLS2YkQy5bSKjZRfvPFO6bAKGknUoorSOMPyZaTMEwpeqS/hhZvcvMOm TiSW+iqm1Cru237jpOPucb6n4+CuhpVSM7jAKTs75BL2lBAUdc5Y6vCt07MqKgI= =M2Bt -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM Firmware Flashed, now UBIFS problem and Kernel Panic
> --- On Thu, 4/14/11, Dave wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Raphael Wimmer >> wrote: >>> If there is a better solution that preserves the FS, >>> I would be happy to learn about it. >> I wonder if it would be possible to boot into a distro on the sd card >> and mount the nand partitions. Then you could save /home. Just a thought. > > Yes, it is: just mount -t jffs2 /dev/mtdblock6 /mountpoint Thank you all for your input.. I put a qtmoko v35 on an SD card.. an on terminal I did: mkdir /home/root/nandfs mount -t ubifs /dev/mtdblock6 /home/root/nandfs but sadly that doesn't work.. dmesg tells me: UBIFS error: ubifs_get_sb: cannot open "/dev/mtdblock6", error -22 Any ideas? Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Trying to outsmart a compiler defeats much of the purpose of using one. - Kernighan & Plauger, "The Elements of Programming Style" -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GSM Firmware Flashed, now UBIFS problem and Kernel Panic
Hi.. Please advice if you can.. Stupidly I didn't make any backup prior to this.. (well, nothing recent anyways) my QtMoko is on NAND and I just used the µSD Flashing Method as recommended in the Wiki to update my GSM Firmware from Moko10 to Moko11.. It finshed with D_O_N_E and showed the green Angstrom login, then I removed the battery and flash SD.. put my SIM and storage SD back in and was going to boot into QtMoko again, but I get: ---8<8<- UBIFS error (pid 1): ubifs_read_node: bad node type (255 but expected 6) UBIFS error (pid 1): ubifs_Read_node: bad node at LEB 0:0 Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount fs on unknown-block(0,0) ---8<8<- I think the flashing just messes with the GSM chip, so despite the subject of the mail, I believe it might be something to do with what happened before the flashing: I shut down Qt, took my SIM an SD out.. powered up - but forgot to press AUX.. so I removed the battery when I saw the first text line from normal boot (I guess it's a Kernel loading message or so).. then I plugged in again and carried on with AUX and flashed.. Any ideas on this problem? I there any way to repair that FS? Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ A distributed system is one in which the failure of a computer you didn't even know existed can render your own computer unusable. - Leslie Lamport -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
mailing with the FR using mutt with random sig
Hi everyone.. I just want to tell you guys about my experiences with setting that up.. :) It's all written in a little blog, so those who are interested are very welcome thave a look at.. http://blog.azral.dnsalias.net Maybe you'll find other interesting bits there, too.. It's just a small home hosted server so bear with the speed, please.. and no DDoS.. ;) cheers.. -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ What is this 'Virtual' stuff? If it's there and you can see it --- it's real. If it's not there and you can see it --- it's virtual. If it's there and you can't see it --- it's transparent. If it's not there and you can't see it --- you erased it! -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ ( sent via mutt on my FreeRunner.. :) ) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] chinese character support
Keep replying to myself.. am I the only one receiving my mails? > Another thing is the pinyin keyboard that is in the sources.. but not > put in the image.. where do I trigger that? > > currently I'm in the middle of getting things ready for a QtMoko > translation into zh_CN.. (thanks to my wife) It seems as if "enabling" zh_CN as language automagically puts the pinyinim in the image.. :D need to try it yet, but it's there.. now I wonder.. once my wife and I managed to translate things.. how do we give that to radek? I mean, the .ts files are all over the place.. ;) Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Computers save time the way kudzu prevents soil erosion. - Al Castanoli -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] chinese character support
Is there any way to enable chinese character support in QtMoko? I mean for reading SMS.. display of filenames.. etc.. OK.. I learned that if I .. apt-get install ttf-wqy-zenhei cp /usr/share/fonts/truetype/wqy/wqy-zenhei.ttf /opt/qtmoko/lib/fonts/ and reboot (or maybe just restart qpe, I can display chinese characters.. in Textedit.. and also in the file lists.. so that works.. maybe even pinyin predictive keyboard? (would look into that if it's possible to do.. ;)) Another thing is the pinyin keyboard that is in the sources.. but not put in the image.. where do I trigger that? currently I'm in the middle of getting things ready for a QtMoko translation into zh_CN.. (thanks to my wife) I would really love to contribute here.. but need help.. ;) Cheers, -- Thomas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QtMoko] chinese character support
And me.. again.. ;) Is there any way to enable chinese character support in QtMoko? I mean for reading SMS.. display of filenames.. etc.. maybe even pinyin predictive keyboard? (would look into that if it's possible to do.. ;)) Cheers.. -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ DOS computers manufactured by companies such as IBM, Compaq, Tandy, and millions of others are by far the most popular, with about 70 million machines in use worldwide. Macintosh fans, on the other hand, may note that cockroaches are far more numerous than humans, and that numbers alone do not denote a higher life form. - New York Times, November 26, 1991 -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] picture support
Am 22.02.2011 00:24, schrieb Hrabosh: > Do you have libjpeg62 installed? > > If not, try to apt-get it. Seems it used to be there.. (apt-get was talking about installing some previously removed.. ) anyways.. spot on.. :D jpg works now.. Thanks a bunch.. -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Most of the VAX instructions are in microcode, but HALT and NO-OP are in hardware for efficiency. -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QtMoko] picture support
Hi.. Any idea why none of the pictures (jpg / png) that I have on MMC can be displayed? the Mediaviewer finds them but can't show.. Screenshots I've taken are saved on MMC as well and saved as png.. _they_ can be displayed.. so I thought maybe jpg support is broken.. I changed my images to png.. no joy either.. needless to say, the same images can be shown on my laptop (and used to be displayed by SHRs Neon).. I checked file access properties.. they're same as the screenshots.. Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Enter any 11-digit prime number to continue... -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] Problem with eMail notify
Am 21.02.2011 01:49, schrieb Brolin Empey: > Thomas Franck wrote: >> Hello everyone! >> >> Recently I installed QtMoko v31 and I'm amazed.. > > Amazed even by QtEI’s lack of conversation view for SMS? ;) I actually didn't miss that.. as I lack the ability to have _conversations_ via SMS.. I usually just get short info from or pass short info to people.. ;) >> Any pointers welcome.. ;) > > <http://xkcd.com/138/> ;) I was kinda expecting this one.. :P Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Life not only begins at forty, it also begins to show. -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] Problem with eMail notify
Am 21.02.2011 00:23, schrieb Hrabosh: > HAve a look at: > > /home/root/Settings/Trolltech/qpe.conf > > there is a section called "Messages" with counters of missed SMSs, > MMS...setting E-mail counter to 0 should help. That's it.. thank you ever so much.. :) Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. - Henry Spencer -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QtMoko] Problem with eMail notify
Hello everyone! Recently I installed QtMoko v31 and I'm amazed.. I set up all kinds of connections (still have a problem sending/receiving mms - but I'm not too concerned about that).. Anyway, to the point now: I set up an IMAP account and it started downloading headers then it was so slow, and I think it would have killed the mail app (10k+ mails) so I cancelled.. and then I had a notify for 34 mails.. I didn't want to use the IMAP there anymore so I removed the email account.. the message app doesn't show any mails (of course).. but the main screen still thinks there are 34 new mails.. I can click on it, but nothing happens.. it just keeps displaying the envelope on home screen and top bar.. How do I get rid off those? I already quit QtExtended and deleted the sqlite files I found in the profile.. it then refound my SMS on SIM so I ended up with 40 new messages! I restored the sqlite backups and the SMS part was okay again.. but still 34 messages (mail) and no mail account configured.. reboot doesn't change anything.. Any pointers welcome.. ;) Cheers.. -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ A programming language is low level when its programs require attention to the irrelevant. - Alan J. Perlis -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANN]: GTA04 (Beagleboard inspired Openmoko Upgrade) - Early Adpoter Program
Am 21.12.2010 16:33, schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: > So we are very confident that the already scheduled redesign > (GTA04A3) will work right from the beginning and boot Linux. > > This looks like the start of the aera of new Openmoko devices. Thank you very much for your efforts regarding OSS and especially the Openmoko Freerunner! I was eagerly following your updates about this project and it sounds sooo great! :D Your announcement is indeed a wonderful X-Mas present! > -- early adopter program -- > > Therefore, we have thought hat we offer an early adoper > program to the benefit of everybody. > > The idea is that you can order a GTA04A3 immediately. At > a fixed price (280 EUR). And we take the risk that prices of > components will change. You only take the risk that we may > need more time to get the components and have to spin > another PCB. > > Using your money, we will order the core components with > a long lead time (OMAP, Memory, UMTS module) as soon > as possible - and early enough before the GTA04A3 design > is finished. I was pondering on putting my money into this - and I do want to.. just not possible for me right now. So I'd like to ask: for about how long do you plan to have that EA offer on? Best regards and merry christmas! -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ The day Microsoft creates a product that doesn't suck is the day they make vacuum cleaners. -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Problem converting maps. was: MC Navi 0.2.10 released
Hi.. On 08/12/2010 10:16 PM, Vladimir Koutny wrote: > > You have 32bit system and you need to enable largefile support while building > osm2mcmap - add these defines while building: > > CFLAGS=`getconf LFS_CFLAGS` ./configure > (usually expands to -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64) > > This will help with opening the file - but still the conversion will fail > (somewhere > around 7%) due to small address-space in 32bit mode (osm2mcmap loads the > whole file > into memory...) Excellent pointer! thank you.. will have to look into those 64bit.. finally a reason to change! :D > You can successfully convert smaller regions though - just download > precomputed > boundary extract from > http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=3 > and then use with "-bi" option. (Still won't work for germany.osm - it is too > large > to fit into memory space) Oh.. ic... though, as I stated in the other mail.. I was under the impression that we needed the "continent" boundary to do countries..? does that mean we can use like germany boundary and do cities and areas? Cheers.. -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway - Andrew S. Tanenbaum -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Problem converting maps. was: MC Navi 0.2.10 released
Hi.. > I don't speak about europ.osm, i think your are to optimistic! :) I was under the impression that we need the "continent" boundary so that the map for the countries can be made.. > "Error opening file!" > And by the way it is not a matter of not being able to open the file > because > "cat france.osm" works for me. I wonder if osm2mcmap needs the osm file in a special place.. or name.. but I also renamed europe to map (as that is used in the instructions on the website) and it gave the same error.. Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ A paperless office has about as much chance as a paperless bathroom. -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Problem converting maps. was: MC Navi 0.2.10 released
Hi.. I decided to give the converting another go.. but I keep running into the same problem: > az...@wraith:/data/mcnavi$ ls -lah > total 70G > drwxr-xr-x 2 azral azral 4.0K 2010-08-12 09:56 . > drwxrwxrwx 9 root root 4.0K 2010-08-11 22:40 .. > -rw-r--r-- 1 azral azral 60G 2010-08-10 08:26 europe.osm > -rw-r--r-- 1 azral azral 9.8G 2010-08-10 09:36 germany.osm > az...@wraith:/data/mcnavi$ osm2mcmap -bt 0 -bo boundary.mcb europe.osm > Error opening file! > Error parsing file europe.osm > az...@wraith:/data/mcnavi$ does anyone else has that problem? it said error opening file.. so maybe it's not where it should be? Any pointers welcome.. and I don't mean these: http://xkcd.com/138/ ;) Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ ...the best way to prepare [to be a programmer] is to write programs, and to study great programs that other people have written. In my case, I went to the garbage cans at the Computer Science Center and fished out listings of their operating system. - Bill Gates -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MC Navi 0.2.10 released
On 09.06.2010 14:25, Mike Crash wrote: > > I have released new version of MC Navi. It should be (more) stable now > (hope) and have some improvements: Nice.. Looking forward to it.. :) > This version needs new map, download at: Do you think it would be possible to have a Germany map there, too? I tried creating/converting a map the other day, but that was no good.. :P :( Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ The meta-Turing test counts a thing as intelligent if it seeks to apply Turing tests to objects of its own creation. -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
JS TrojanDownloader on opkg.org?
Hi.. I was just going to have a look at something on opkg.org when my NOD32 came up with this warning (work PC ;) ): -8< 12.05.2010 11:50:48 HTTP filter filehttp://www.opkg.org/ JS/TrojanDownloader.Pegel.AP trojan connection terminated - quarantined -8< Does any of you experience that, too? I've been on the site before so this is new.. either a new false positive or a newly installed JS on the site.. Cheers.. -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ When someone says 'I want a programming language in which I need only say what I wish done,' give him a lollipop. - Alan J. Perlis -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Upgrades for SHR-unstable
Hi.. > Please 'opkg update; opkg upgrade' and reboot afterwards. Done so.. when I checked again it was screen was black (locked).. I tapped it.. and that image was very very scary.. ;) April Fools day and all, I suppose.. will it change with the an update tomorrow? :P -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Of course, unless one has a theory, one cannot expect much help from a computer (unless _it_ has a theory)... - Marvin Minsky -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bluetooth PBAP support for FSO
Hi.. On 11.01.2010 13:09, Thomas Zimmermann wrote: > You can download the package at: > http://downloads.vdm-design.de/obexd_0.20-r1.4_armv4t.ipk > > Please try and report the result. I hope it's working but i'm not sure. I've just tried connecting.. with the usual outcome: FR says: new device (and is happy with that) car says: "connecting..." (and eventually aborts) I will try again and again.. but first.. how do log usable data for debugging for you? I tried to install hcidump again, but I can't seem to find it in the SHR-U feed.. what I did: -8<8<-- r...@om-gta02 ~ $ hcitool scan Scanning ... 00:0E:9F:4E:FC:17 BMW 18208 r...@om-gta02 ~ $ simple-agent hci0 00:0E:9F:4E:FC:17 RequestPinCode (/org/bluez/1538/hci0/dev_00_0E_9F_4E_FC_17) Enter PIN Code: 1122 Release New device (/org/bluez/1538/hci0/dev_00_0E_9F_4E_FC_17) r...@om-gta02 ~ $ -8<8<-- That doesn't seem to show up in any logs, though.. Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ If it weren't for C, we'd be writing programs in BASI, PASAL, and OBOL. -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bluetooth PBAP support for FSO
On 12.01.2010 09:55, Martin Jansa wrote: > On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 09:43:55AM +0100, Thomas Franck wrote: >> new SHR-U updates, which is causing a bit of a problem now.. (keeps >> telling me about md5 mismatch and refuses to install two vital fso >> components) > > still md5 mismatch? should be fixed about 1,5 hour ago That's fixed.. thanks.. :) will try connecting to my car in a minute.. Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Programming is one of the most difficult branches of applied mathematics; the poorer mathematicians had better remain pure mathematicians. - Edsgar W. Dijkstra -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bluetooth PBAP support for FSO
On 11.01.2010 13:09, Thomas Zimmermann wrote: > You can download the package at: > http://downloads.vdm-design.de/obexd_0.20-r1.4_armv4t.ipk > > Please try and report the result. I hope it's working but i'm not sure. I've downloaded and installed that.. unfortunately I've also installed new SHR-U updates, which is causing a bit of a problem now.. (keeps telling me about md5 mismatch and refuses to install two vital fso components) Will come back as soon as my FR is up and working again and I've had a chance to test the module.. Cheers & Thanks for your efforts.. -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ APL is a write-only language --- you can write it, but not read it. - Roy Kier -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bluetooth PBAP support for FSO
On 01/04/2010 11:46 AM, Thomas Zimmermann wrote: > http://downloads.vdm-design.de/obexd_0.20-r0.4_armv4t.ipk downloaded and installed that.. > But i think sth more is needed. We need an bluetooth agent that knows about > obexd. Perhaps simple-agent does. I used simple-agent before (see the thread here: http://n2.nabble.com/SHR-unstable-Bluetooth-pairing-with-BMW-Pro-Radio-car-handsfree-fails-tp3060247p3060247.html ) will try when I manage to set everything up.. :) > then obexd needs to be started with -p option, the /etc/dbus-1/services > config > file doesn't do that in my current version, so you have to add that option > there. I don't even have a obexd.conf in the system.d folder.. :S Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ The cheapest and fastest parts of a system are those that don't exist. - Gordon Bell of DEC -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bluetooth PBAP support for FSO
Happy New Year! Thomas Zimmermann wrote: > That's great. The first test resulted in a crash of the PBAP plugin, so i've > to > look at this. > Will tell you if i have an new version, but i will wait till the new year > before i do some more on this. I'm back home.. well.. at work now.. What do I have to prepare in order to test your plugin? Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ IBM is not a necessary evil. IBM is not necessary. - Ted Nelson -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bluetooth PBAP support for FSO
Hi.. (and merry christmas) > > On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 3:31 AM, Thomas Zimmermann > wrote: > > > So is someone out there who owns a handsfree, car or sth else that > > > supports showing contacts and/or missed calls over bluetooth? [...] > I think so too, PBAP is a special protocol developed form the automotion > industrie, primarly for buildin handsfree (as far as i understood). > > So i think the same as you, but i found someone that has such an device. > So he > can try it for me :) I am very interested in this, too.. I've wanted to get my FR to connect to my bmw car system ever since I got it.. and it always played up, didn't want to talk to the car at all.. FR was happy with the BT connect but my radio was still asking for data (IIRC, the error codes that the FR BT stack gave was that it got a PBAP request which it just simply dropped due to lack of support).. So a connection never ever got properly established.. :( I'll be back home and able to test things on the 3rd of January.. Cheers, -- Thomas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Broken Freerunner.. CPU stall messages.. repairable?
Maksim 'max_posedon' Melnikau wrote: > Hm... can you try compile your own kernel without nand/jffs2 support at all? I can try.. but it will take some time.. need to set up an environment for that.. I'm a Win32 developer.. and my first try of building the SHR failed with loads of errors that I had a bad time figuring out.. do you know where I can find instructions for compiling a custom kernel for the neo? Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ In addition to prototyping, Dan put together a reference card for users. If we couldn't figure out how to explain a feature on the reference card we would change the program. The original method for copying formulas was too complicated so we just changed the design rather than try to explain it. - Bob Frankston, author (with Dan Bricklin) of VisiCalc -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Broken Freerunner.. CPU stall messages.. repairable?
Maksim 'max_posedon' Melnikau wrote: > As for you, I defently don't understand why you can't boot from uSD, plz > try some very old images. it's all the same for me.. :( stalls.. and I made sure that it indeed uses the SDcard.. Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ IBM: It may be slow, but it's hard to use. - Andrew Tannenbaum -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Broken Freerunner.. CPU stall messages.. repairable?
Maksim 'max_posedon' Melnikau wrote: > As for you, I defently don't understand why you can't boot from uSD, plz > try some very old images. Will hopefully be able to try some more tonight.. In the end I ordered a new FR.. got it yesterday.. :D Hope to get the other one up and running again, though. What I found weird, though, is: I put my old 8GB SD card in the new one (I used the 512MB card for the booting tests) and it had a very hard time with it (a lot of bad sectors).. now, I put the card the adapter and the reader.. and fdisk wouldn't even open the partition table of it.. :O I could understand data loss on the ext3 partition there, but the first few kilos should not have been touched when the battery was suddenly "removed"... Has anyone ever had that? I mean that an sdcard get's fubar-ed by a g-shock? Very strange.. :S anyway, I'll try to boot some more the the 512MB card.. is there a way to tell whether the FR is booting from the SD compared to the NAND? can I erase the NAND rootfs somehow? Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Adapting old programs to fit new machines usually means adapting new machines to behave like old ones. - Alan J. Perlis -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Broken Freerunner.. CPU stall messages.. repairable?
Maksim 'max_posedon' Melnikau wrote: > I still think that its somehow connected with kernel, at least: > > [snip: ugly Kernel Messages] > > doesn't looks good How did you manage to copy those messages? is it because it eventually boots your FR? Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ It is easier to write an incorrect program than understand a correct one. - Alan J. Perlis -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Broken Freerunner.. CPU stall messages.. repairable?
Yorick Moko wrote: > Have you tried flashin qi and using it to boot from SD? just trying.. still jiffies, mean CPU stall.. Say, how do I know if Qi is booting off the SD card? Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Computer system analysis is like child-rearing; you can do grievous damage, but you cannot ensure success. - Tom DeMarco -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Broken Freerunner.. CPU stall messages.. repairable?
Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > CPU stall? Leave FR turned on for few hours on that message. About > half year ago I have few times the same problem, and leaving it for 10 > minutes helped for me. And I still don't know, what was the cause of > that ;x Sadly, it didn't help me.. :( it just goes on and on with the CPU stall messages... let it do it for hours.. -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ The use of anthropomorphic terminology when dealing with computing systems is a symptom of professional immaturity. - Edsgar W. Dijkstra -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Broken Freerunner.. CPU stall messages.. repairable?
Jose Luis Perez Diez wrote: > If those lines are repeating then the kernel has not panicked and is runing > with a mounted rootfs. > > You can try to ssh to the phone or see if it is recognized as an cdc-ethernet > on the pc ( if you are using shr or om2009 that means the module g-eher is > installed and the rootfs is mounted ) I tried to run my neonet script to set up USB networking.. no joy.. the interface is not there.. ("running" SHR, btw) it's sad, isn't it..? :( -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Perhaps there should be a new 'quantum' datatype; you would be able to take its address or value, but not both simultaneously. - Michael Shields (in comp.std.c++) -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Broken Freerunner.. CPU stall messages.. repairable?
Maksim 'max_posedon' Melnikau wrote: > Try NOR uBoot (at least I use that), > also, you shouldn't by new FR, just boot from SD is always a solution. Doesn't work for me.. I prepared the 512MB card to boot (following the wiki) and booted SDcard via NOR.. same game.. CPU stall messages.. :( think new FR is going to be the only way to get my happy life back.. (really got to love that little misfit) Unless there are any more ideas? where does the message CPU stall come from for what reason?? Cheers.. -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ The use of COBOL cripples the mind; its teaching should, therefore, be regarded as a criminal offence. - Edsgar W. Dijkstra -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Broken Freerunner.. CPU stall messages.. repairable?
Hi..! Maksim 'max_posedon' Melnikau wrote: > Try NOR uBoot (at least I use that), will try that when I'm home.. Joachim Ott also suggested I try NOR boot and I did without success.. (with Qi installed, though) > also, you shouldn't by new FR, just boot from SD is always a solution. right.. haven't tried that yet.. will give it a go tonight, too.. thanks for your input! > Also you can try reflash (kernel and rootfs) of some known to work version. I flashed the versions I used before.. so known to work for me.. :) -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Programmers don't die, they just GOSUB without RETURN. -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Broken Freerunner.. CPU stall messages.. repairable?
Maksim 'max_posedon' Melnikau wrote: > So, try uboot. ok.. I tried uBoot again.. WAY more output.. but no successful boot.. :( still get the drivers/input/touchscreen/s3c2410_ts.c: stylus_updown lost event! drivers/input/touchscreen/s3c2410_ts.c:stylus_action bug. drivers/input/touchscreen/s3c2410_ts.c: stylus_updown lost event! and *loads* of other lines repeating in a loop, I think.. any chance of logging them? may help you guys? I'm preparing myself to buy a new FR.. so sad.. :( -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Brilliance is typically the act of an individual, but incredible stupidity can usually be traced to an organization. - Jon Bentley -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Broken Freerunner.. CPU stall messages.. repairable?
Maksim 'max_posedon' Melnikau wrote: > I have same missages too, Qi can't boot my system from nand too, > > BUT It successfully boots with uboot (actually not always, but boots), > there is opinion that Qi doesn't handle badblocks on nand correctly, > or smth like this. > > So, try uboot. Cool.. so there's hope.. :) Will try uBoot when I'm home.. *sigh* just got used to Qi.. ;) Is there a way to mark the badblocks so Qi can boot again? Cheers! -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Writing a program is nothing but debugging a blank page. - An anonymous but frustrated Stanford programmer -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Broken Freerunner.. CPU stall messages.. repairable?
Hi.. This is a re-post from the support ML.. community is way more active, hope to get some more hints here.. :) I can access the NOR boot menu.. and since then I have reflashed the kernel, the system image and the boot loader.. I also disassembled the FR (for the first time!!) to see if I can find any physical damage.. didn't manage to remove the tin caps for look under there, though.. after re-assembling I still get the CPU stall.. -- Some moron broke my freerunner by a hard impact yesterday (EDIT: that was last sunday.. oh, and the case is OK, in fact, everything seems fine, except the messages).. :( now the bootloader (Qi) starts, and I think Kernal start booting, too.. I get messages like: [ 0.00] Unknown boot option 'g_ether.host_addr=00:1F:11:01:2D:C7: ignoring [ 0.00] Unknown boot option 'g_ether.dev_addr=00:1F:11:01:2D:C7: ignoring [ 0.00] Unknown boot option 'g_ether.host_addr=00:1F:11:01:2D:C7: ignoring [ 0.00] Unknown boot option 'g_ether.dev_addr=00:1F:11:01:2D:C7: ignoring [21474548.655000] INFO: RCU detected CPU 0 stall (t=429490971/2000 jiffies) [21474578.655000] INFO: RCU detected CPU 0 stall (t=429491571/8000 jiffies) etc... when I touch the screen, I get: drivers/input/touchscreen/s3c2410_ts.c:stylus_action bug. drivers/input/touchscreen/s3c2410_ts.c: stylus_updown lost event! drivers/input/touchscreen/s3c2410_ts.c: stylus_updown lost event! is there something I can do? I mean, beside getting a new FR :S :( Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ In addition to prototyping, Dan put together a reference card for users. If we couldn't figure out how to explain a feature on the reference card we would change the program. The original method for copying formulas was too complicated so we just changed the design rather than try to explain it. - Bob Frankston, author (with Dan Bricklin) of VisiCalc -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Any meetings around London next week?
Petr Vanek wrote: > well, at that time there is the Plasa show, is this just coincidence or > are you attending (too)? Pure coincidence.. I hadn't heard about it until now.. :) Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Programmers don't die, they just GOSUB without RETURN. -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Any meetings around London next week?
Hi.. I'll be in London for a week from next Wednesday (9th) to Wednesday(16th)... I wondered if there's a meeting planned around that time? Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. - Bjarne Stroustrup, designer of C++ (1950- ) -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Reading binary messages
Hi.. KaZeR wrote: > Has anyone succeeded / starting working on reading binary sms? > > I have some of them sitting in my inbox, under SHR it's only displayed as > "This is a binary message" just wondered if anyone can tell about progress in that matter? I have a bunch of the "binary messages", too.. :S is there a way to save/display the raw message so one can maybe extract the URL manually somehow? cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ 640k ought to be enough for anybody. - Bill Gates, 1981 -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Wiki] Neon into Hall of Fame (2 Votes)
HighCat wrote: > I'd vote for Neon too, but looks like it's not enough stable (large images > on SHR, py2.6) > > The bug: > http://projects.openmoko.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=255&group_id=239&atid=994 Hmm.. I can open my 2048x1536 (~700k) pics just fine.. (SHR, neon 1.0.0-r0) I vote +1, too.. :) -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Don't have good ideas if you aren't willing to be responsible for them. - Alan J. Perlis -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR unstable] Bluetooth pairing with BMW Pro Radio car handsfree fails
Paul Fertser wrote: > Good, but don't expect much, it seems that nobody in OM community > actually has solid understanding of bluetooth :-/. Tried again.. as expected, no luck... however, I got the dump.. I started it before pairing.. and let it run and run after the FR was happy with pairing.. (I thought the radio may give up - but after 5 mins it still said "pairing in progress...") Anyone interested can find the dump here (11k): http://www.digitalchaos.de/openmoko/bt.dump and the log here (6k): http://www.digitalchaos.de/openmoko/log.txt (yeah, I used the always handy 1234 pin.. lol) I actually thought the dump would be kinda readable.. can anyone read that?? Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Gray's Law of Programming N+1 trivial tasks are expected to be accomplished in the same time as N trivial tasks. -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR unstable] Bluetooth pairing with BMW Pro Radio car handsfree fails
Joerg Eesmann wrote: > I came so far that I found a project, > http://nohands.sourceforge.net/source.html, which is not HFP (Hands Free > Profile) but the server (if FR is the client). So my guess is, if I can > get my FR to connect with this, it should also connect to my car. The > advantage is, for testing that one can dumb and debug the whole > BT-communication, because nohands also runs on Linux-machine. Hmm... if my test later fails and provides no new information, it'll be worth a try.. ;) -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Has everyone noticed that all the letters of the word "database" are typed with the left hand? Now the layout of the QWERTYUIOP typewriter keyboard was designed, among other things, to facilitate the even use of both hands. It follows, therefore, that writing about databases is not only unnatural, but a lot harder than it appears. -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR unstable] Bluetooth pairing with BMW Pro Radio car handsfree fails
Paul Fertser wrote: > Hm, that sounds weird. Can you try to disable this functionality? What > is written in your BMW manual wrt cellphone compatibility? *g* They say I should ask the BMW Service about which phones are supported. I am dead sure that they never heard about the FR.. ;) With unsupported phones, errors may occur.. lol A somewhat unrelated note: even the T-Mobile guy from technical support rang me up and asked what an Openmoko FreeRunner was (I sent them a mail about GPRS connection details).. -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ It is impossible to sharpen a pencil with a blunt axe. It is equally vain to try to do it with ten blunt axes instead. - Edsgar W. Dijkstra -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR unstable] Bluetooth pairing with BMW Pro Radio car handsfree fails
Paul Fertser wrote: > Thomas Franck writes: >> I reckon that the radio is checking for capabilities and that the FR >> fails to meet the requirements.. could that be? (I've no idea about >> Bluetooth - totally on the user side there.. :)) > > Yes, could be something like that. But it'd be strange if headset > checked device for capabilities... I came up with that thought because the radio also accesses the contacts on the phone and provides a list on the display. > Good, but don't expect much, it seems that nobody in OM community > actually has solid understanding of bluetooth :-/. That's somewhat discouraging.. but totally understandable.. I find anything wireless to be black magick.. :D Well, we'll make the most of it.. my worst case scenario would be that I'll keep using the Nokia until BT works as expected. Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use regular expressions." Now they have two problems. - Jamie Zawinski -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR unstable] Bluetooth pairing with BMW Pro Radio car handsfree fails
Paul Fertser wrote: >Thomas Franck writes: >> However.. my car kept trying to pair with the FR (display said something >> like "Pairing in progress.." with the only option to abort.. :( > > Hm, that is strange. You need to try to remove the bonding and to try > again. Probably you hit some timeout or something else went wrong. I reckon that the radio is checking for capabilities and that the FR fails to meet the requirements.. could that be? (I've no idea about Bluetooth - totally on the user side there.. :)) Paul Fertser wrote: >Thomas Franck writes: >> The Wiki [1] says that I should log with "hcidump -l 4096 -w bt.dump" >> but that command is not available on my FR... > > Hm, it should be, probably in some additional bluez package (but do > not install bluez3!) Indeed - my bad... I should have checked that, sorry.. installing bluez-hcidump now.. (I sure hope it's not bluez3 dependent) I will try pairing again later.. and provide a bt.dump.. :) Thank you.. -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Counting in octal is just like counting in decimal, if you don't use your thumbs. - Tom Lehrer -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR unstable] Bluetooth pairing with BMW Pro Radio car handsfree fails
Hi.. :) Sorry for repost, figured that "Community" is probably a better list than "Support".. ;) I've updated to the recent version of SHR unstable (opkg update/upgrade yesterday) and tried to pair with my car today.. (BMW Pro Radio) I "followed" the instructions from the Wiki [1] (not much to follow for SHR, it seems) and I got the MAC from the car.. used the simple-agent to pair.. my car asked me to enter a PIN for pairing.. then the FR asked me for it.. and once I entered that it's happy.. (trying a second time quits with message that there's already a bond with that device) However.. my car kept trying to pair with the FR (display said something like "Pairing in progress.." with the only option to abort.. :( Needless to say, pairing with my Nokia 6500C works like a charm.. :( The Wiki [1] says that I should log with "hcidump -l 4096 -w bt.dump" but that command is not available on my FR... Anyone any idea? Help is very appreciated - I wanna swap the Nokia for good.. [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_Bluetooth#Once_Again.2C_Bluetooth_Headset_on_Freerunner Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ "Virtual" means never knowing where your next byte is coming from. -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictationsoftware ever
Hi.. Helge Hafting wrote: > Also, dictator seems to record in stereo, while these sources are mono. > One channel is silent. Avoiding unnecessary stereo gives the cpu less > work, which is important with this weak cpu. I haven't tested Dictator yet.. but I really liked the way the other recording software[1] did it.. with incoming/outgoing sound separated on different channel that.. Maybe that's something for a next version, too? if it is already, sorry 'bout the noise.. :) [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Call_Recorder -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Proofread carefully to see if you any words out. -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR-unstable] "settings -> power -> auto-dimming" or "who's responsible for blanking?"
Hi.. I did an update/upgrade last night ~20:00CET and among other things the shr-settings got updated.. you guys keep adding things - thank you. :) I've been playing with it a bit and at first I noticed that the "Power Settings" (the module for "Auto-Dimming" and "Auto-Suspend") does not re-show once I moved a switch.. had to restart to make it show again (not sure if xserver restart would have been sufficient - didn't try) today it is displayed every time I try.. weird.. :P However, except for auto-suspend:off the settings I make do not have any effect.. I have auto-dimming:off and it still goes blank after 30secs.. whatever timeouts I set.. it still blanks after 30secs.. (does not suspend, though.. :)) Now.. if I use the illume wrench to set the "display -> power -> Blank Time" to off then the shr-settings "auto-dimming" works. Though, even with "auto-suspend:off", it will suspend if "auto-dimming:on" and the timout is set to >0. Sooo.. my experiences in short: if you want to use the shr-settings, make sure to disable the illume power settings. Ooops.. just now while fiddling.. the "Power Settings" moduledisappeared again.. restarting the xserver sorted it (like usual ;)) Hope someone finds it useful. Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Proofread carefully to see if you any words out. -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] updating OSM data for tangoGPS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthias Apitz wrote: > it seems that the logic depends on certain http://... values in > ~/.gconf/apps/tangogps/%gconf.xml > but I don't have that their; could someone show me the string how it > should look in tangogps/%gconf.xml to understand what it is expecting; Ahh.. that would be the way osm organizes their maps and where TangoGPS puts them OSM|http://tile.openstreetmap.org/%d/%d/%d.png|/media/card/maps/osm|0 This is the snippet you need.. HTH (beware of linebreaks) Cheers, - -- Thomas - -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Brilliance is typically the act of an individual, but incredible stupidity can usually be traced to an organization. - Jon Bentley - -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmKBGkACgkQJyAl4leVARmuRwCeMBsbr4qWDA4/WBNhqQ6sBoE9 8jsAn2lGjng4BTFd5ANbJrCZJ33ABzM2 =gHGc -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] updating OSM data for tangoGPS
> Some weeks ago there was a discussion about an application which updated > (crawled) your local installed OSM data... what is the state now of > this, is it ready for use (there have been bugs, if I remember > correctly); thx I found Yaouh[1] to do a nice job for my TangoGPS.. :) still kinda slow, but at least I had no major problems.. [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. - Pablo Picasso (1881-1973) -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Someone stole my Neo Freerunner... :(
bburde...@comcast.net wrote: > If you don't want to risk being sued for a booby trapped phone, how > about at least a way to render the it useless to thieves? I think that the majority of thieves is not technically inclined, thus our FR is _already_ rather useless for him/her.. > For instance, you could make it unbootable from a zero power situation, > and then combine that with a rapid power discharge. If the thief leaves > it uncharged for even a day, its bricked! LOL :) yeah.. let's implement that.. oh wait.. this feature is already implemented.. no battery voltage -> "bricked" (unless one knows what to do) Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ The use of anthropomorphic terminology when dealing with computing systems is a symptom of professional immaturity. - Edsgar W. Dijkstra -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there an echo-free distro?
Steve 'dillo Okay wrote: > Are you generally happy with your device ? Yes, I am.. for what I do with it, it's been working well (phone, sms, gps) in germany as well as UK.. of course, a few quirks are still around... but I'm happy to work around them.. (like rebooting once I had WLAN on - can't seem to power it down again so it drains battery.. or that I need to split sms manually when sending) I use the SHR-testing image which I patch manually echo-free.. (some clever guy posted that once on the list (where to put the 187 command in)) I would say what-where, but got the instructions at home.. :S I understand that the SHR-unstable is already echo-free - but has other more severe problems instead? I stick with testing. :D > How many of you out there with FRs are using them actively as an > everyday phone device, in addition to something to hack on ? I use it as my everyday phone just fine. Haven't really got around programming for it, though.. :( Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ A user friendly computer first requires a friendly user. -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: which file system for sd card?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi.. > I bought a 2GB sd card which came formatted with FAT. Is this a good > option for the sd card or is it advisable to use another fs? I'm using > it for osm maps. My experience: I had trouble with FAT and OSM maps.. it became read-only after a while of updating tiles.. though, I admit that it could also be the sdclk causing that (which I have not played around with).. anyway.. reformatting with ext3 solved that problem for me.. Cheers.. - -- Thomas - -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ When someone says 'I want a programming language in which I need only say what I wish done,' give him a lollipop. - Alan J. Perlis - -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkl8WMAACgkQuGo1cDcCdioMggCdFWlE9hESeNiDzR/SxGCdthCi nBsAnjysmwpqhZ5qaw1IKYPHgyKR8KGW =gtKO -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Yaouh! 0.2.1 is out now
Hi.. Carlo Minucci wrote: > Helge Hafting ha scritto: >> I let it run overnight, to deal with 5 tiles. >> It still segfaults sometime during the night. >> There are no full filesystems this time though. > > yesterday yaouh have crash with 2 tiles... I had mine run with 68K tiles.. and I didn't experience any crashes.. the only problems I had were: a) Version 0.2.0 (and expect 0.2.1, too) doesn't seem to care about the TangoGPS config file anymore, so I had to symlink the SD card folder.. b) Concerning the SD card. Not sure why, but it was FAT formatted and after a few tiles I could see the wget complain about a read-only filesystem.. once I re-formatted with ext3, that was history and the whole lot of tiles could be updated.. Cheers.. :) -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ If you were plowing a field, which would you rather use? Two strong oxen or 1024 chickens? - Seymour Cray -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Yaouh! out (update for tangogps maps)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi.. Very nice program.. works like a charm (so far (checking on ~70k tiles)).. it's somewhat slow, though.. maybe you can implement that python httplib to save the curl invocations? :) please? Thank you for that tool. (The OSM updater just didn't cut it for me) Cheers, - -- Thomas - -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Give a man a fish, and he will eat for a day; Teach a man to fish, and he will eat for a lifetime. The moral? READ THE MANUAL! - Sign on a computer system consultant's desk - -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAklw+TgACgkQuGo1cDcCdir7DQCffJWCLJlu9DWuTKcd11Il7YNb 3TkAoJdxGUjrWJ8vhnTgKyGEUzSnvy5P =jqpo -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: which SHR image
Helge Hafting wrote: [an excellent and helpful text] Wow.. that was thorough... Thank you for that - although I'm past that stage it was very good to read.. Maybe one more thing to ask (as I have no clue): Do you happen to know the difference between the unstable and testing images of SHR..? I used to flash the testing images (as linked to by the wiki[1]) but noticed the other folder the other day.. Cheers.. [1] http://shr.bearstech.com/trac/wiki/Get%20Started -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Consultant's Creed If you think *I'm* expensive, wait until you hire an amateur. -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Problem editing wiki
Hi.. > I have a problem editing the wiki. > [...] > Is anyone else experiencing this? > Do you know what can be causing it? Known problem.. see: http://n2.nabble.com/whitespace-going-missing-on-wikipages-td1479519ef1958.html#a1479519 -- Thomas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm
Joerg Reisenweber wrote: please hurry to vote, we have to make a decision. Thanks I vote for B (3.5mm) as well.. even if just headphone.. IMHO, the 2.5 ones are just too fragile... BTW.. following the link of Phillip to nokia and on to the OMTP left me with a 404 so the link to the spec of their 3.5mm headset is.. http://www.omtp.org/Publications/Display.aspx?Id=e8dc6c67-9b36-4bf5-b532-05c7742ac36b# cheers, Thomas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community