Re: GTA04 Boot speed comparison
On Wed, 2011-09-21 at 15:16 +, Michael Sokolov wrote: > Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG31rCHZXh4 > > > > The winner is ... > > ... find out yourself! > > Some of us can't access YouTube because it's blocked (employer/etc). > Would you mind telling us in plain ASCII? GTA04 wins by a wide margin, GTA02 looses by an even wider one. But to be honest, I almost never reboot my phone. I prefer a fully working power management system. Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-Devel] Palm Pre 2
Hi, On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 11:16 +0100, Sylvain Paré wrote: > Hi! > > So I have it! So now that you had time to play with it, I'd like to know if it cas easily replace an N900 ? In particular: - is there a merged addressbook (with phone + gtalk + facebook + skype + etc.) ? - what's the IM/phone backend ? - how many good Free apps are there in the app store ? - and .. is there a shell (i.e. how open is it) ? Thanks, Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: upcoming linux phones ...
On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 17:15 +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > Em 11-02-2010 16:56, Tony McKeehan escreveu: > > samsung announced bada few mounth ago > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bada_%28operating_system%29 > > > > but the SDK is not yet public to everyone ...too bad > > I wish I can test this and review it , did you test it ? can you > > > speak > > > about it ? > > > bada != linux at all. dont bother following it. looks for limo > instead. > > >>> well, is wiki mentioned above wrong? First sentence says: "bada > >>> (pronounced /ˈbɑːdɑː/) is a Linux-based mobile operating system" > >> > >> Fixed :) > >> > > Somebody undid your changes... They either know more than us or they are > > just really hopeful and can't face the truth :P > > Perhaps that's not so far fetched at all, "Graphics Corporation"? Sounds > like someone which might be involved... No, that one is me. And I still see the fixed text, so that maybe a caching problem (or maybe I just see what I fixed ..) Anyway it's Wikipedia, anyone can fix it. Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: upcoming linux phones ...
On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 10:38 +0100, Patryk Benderz wrote: > Dnia 2010-02-11, czw o godzinie 19:51 +1100, Carsten Haitzler pisze: > > On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:13:43 +0100 "RzR www.rzr.online.fr" > > said: > > > > > Hi, If it helps > > > samsung announced bada few mounth ago > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bada_%28operating_system%29 > > > > > > but the SDK is not yet public to everyone ...too bad > > > I wish I can test this and review it , did you test it ? can you > > speak > > > about it ? > > > > bada != linux at all. dont bother following it. looks for limo > > instead. > well, is wiki mentioned above wrong? First sentence says: "bada > (pronounced /ˈbɑːdɑː/) is a Linux-based mobile operating system" Fixed :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
On Tuesday 29 December 2009 21:30:53 Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? > Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Nope, sold it to buy an N900. I enjoyed the concept a lot, but I needed something that works. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness
On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 16:18 +0100, Matthias Huber wrote: > Michael 'Mickey' Lauer schrieb: > > , since I did not realize the awesomeness > > and importance of dbus early enough... it's not too late though for us > > (as in the community) to fix this. > > > when i understand you right, you think, the dbus concept is wrong ? > > and if so, could you please explain deeper, why you think so ? I think it's just the reverse: he saw too late that dbus is really good. Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Internal pressure sensor
On Sun, 2009-10-04 at 15:02 +0200, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen wrote: > On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 06:04:30PM -0400, tom wrote: > > actually i think they should already be built in...they are so cheap... > >Depends on what you mean when you say cheap. I see it listed at just > under USD 10 for one sensor or the price of a 1.3 mpix camera module. It's > also not as small as you would like for something you throw in mostly for > fun. Add an electronic compass and you have the equivalent of a high-end GPS used in all kind of outdoor sports. Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Selling/giving damaged Neo Freerunner.
On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 17:27 +0200, Radek Bartoň wrote: > Dne úterý 15 Září 2009 16:53:06 Laszlo KREKACS napsal(a): > > On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Radek Bartoň wrote: > > > except of damaged PCB and missing > > > micro-USB and micro-BNC connectors. > > > > What the hell did you do with this poor freerunner? Messed hardware fixes? > > It started with felt off external GPS antenna connector. When I opened the > case > to fix this two other parts felt off quite easily - USB connector and rear > speaker link (or whatever it is). Missing USB connection was really a problem > because I wanted to show some application running on my Freerunner on a > workshop. I gave it to my friend to fix it but although it seemed fixed fine > first, a bad contact appeared soon. I decided to fix it myself but when I was > trying to unsolder USB connector one of the connector's printed circuit has > wrenched from the PCB. That's it. I learned my lesson :-(. I know of a guy with a working FR with just a broken LCD. Maybe he'll be interested. Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Selling FreeRunner, like NEW, for 200€ (France).
Le jeudi 27 août 2009 à 18:52 +0200, Xavier Bestel a écrit : > Hi, > > I'm selling my FR. It's way underused (I didn't even remove the > protective film from the screen). It's not buzzfixed. > > You'll need to learn how to flash it, because it's currently running a > very old version of Qi (buggy) + Om2009 if I remember correctly (in > short, slow and unusable). > > I'm selling it with the battery, charger, cable, pouch, box. I lost the > pen. I didn't buy a bigger SD card, so I only have the small original > one if you want it (and if I find it, no promise). > > I'm selling it for 200€, plus shipping. > > I'm living in Grenoble, France. Oh, and please contact me directly at xavier.bes...@free.fr (not on the list). Thanks, Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Selling FreeRunner, like NEW, for 200€ (France).
Hi, I'm selling my FR. It's way underused (I didn't even remove the protective film from the screen). It's not buzzfixed. You'll need to learn how to flash it, because it's currently running a very old version of Qi (buggy) + Om2009 if I remember correctly (in short, slow and unusable). I'm selling it with the battery, charger, cable, pouch, box. I lost the pen. I didn't buy a bigger SD card, so I only have the small original one if you want it (and if I find it, no promise). I'm selling it for 200€, plus shipping. I'm living in Grenoble, France. Thanks, Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Koolu.com?
http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 02:46 -0500, Rene Horn wrote: > It's not resolving for me anymore. Anyone know what's going on? > > -- > Sigs are boring, except this one... > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
IMPORTANT README BEFORE REPLYING TO MICKEY !!!!! (Was Re: Is Israel a Democracy? -- The problem with intellectually insecure whites -- Should Christians Support Israeli Terrorism in Gaza?)
Please oh please don't get too nervous ! This is a spam that circulates nowadays on several mailing-lists, and it hasn't been sent by Mickey. It already happened elsewhere, the mail address is faked. Xav On Fri, 2009-01-23 at 17:09 +0100, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > The Jewish State of Israel has no constitution, nor does it name its > borders. Israel's hidden constitution is Judaism. Israel's undeclared > borders range from the Nile to the Euphrates rivers. Israel's desired > jurisdiction extends over the entire Earth. [...] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Syncing OpenMoko with Sunbird/Lightning events and tasks
On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 10:31 +0100, Yoann ARNAUD wrote: > Pander a écrit : > > Hi all, > > > > Which applications on OpenMoko would be suitable for importing and > > exporting (syncing) data like events and tasks from Sunbird/Lightning? > > > > Preferably via the use of http://www.opensync.org/ > > Pimlico, but it's not realeased yet. > > http://pimlico-project.org/sync.html And from the Changelog, hasn't been touched since 2006 ... Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2Gb Mobile DRAM
Le mercredi 31 décembre 2008 à 11:00 +0100, Michele Renda a écrit : > Hello to all > > I just read this: "Hynix Semiconductor Develops First 2Gb Mobile DRAM" > http://tinyurl.com/84f72s Don't be too excited. That's 2 giga-BITs, i.e. 256 mega-BYTEs. Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wifi - wep or wpa enabled
Hi Rodney, On Thu, 2008-12-18 at 21:58 -0800, Rodney Myers wrote: > Default install. > > Does the wifi work only with wpa? or does it also work with wep? > > My internal wifi is wep enabled only, and I cannot get the phone to > recognize the key. In my experience none of the GUI tools work with WEP, but using a terminal you can manage to make the FR sort-of work, i.e. it sometimes connects to a WEP network for a short while. Apparently with latest kernels this is fixed (the driver side, not the UI side), I've had better experience with Andy's tracking kernel. Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New 2008.12 Release
Hi, On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 10:22 +0200, Yogiz wrote: > On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 23:56:20 -0800 (PST) > abatrour wrote: > > > > > Just noticed on the server. I'm going to try it out right now. > > > > http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.12/ > > Good news. I'll still wait for the announcement and for some feedback > before I roll it on. I've spent too much time customizing my 2008.9 to > mess with it. Can someone tell me if it's a recent kernel, or still 2.6.24 ? Thanks, Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenVibe is out
On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 17:21 +0200, Margo Koppelmann wrote: > Another good idea would be to use 2 freerunners and accelerometer - > the faster you shake your freerunner in your hand the faster your > girlfriend's freerunner vibrates. Awesome ! How to sell twice as much Neos ... BTW, here's an official request for GTA03 to have a stronger vibrator :) Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: No more optimization team
Hi, On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 18:13 +0800, Wolfgang Spraul wrote: > The latest image, including all optimizations from the optimization > team are in > http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing/ > (openmoko-testing-om) > > We were testing this image a bit, haven't seen the full test report > yet. More or less it will be the same as Om2008.9, the most noticeable > improvement will be boot time reduction to about 1 minute. To me the most noticeable improvement is that the neo stopped being a power drain while suspended. I don't know whose work it is, but it showed in these testing images and I appreciate it. Regards, Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: No more optimization team
On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 16:52 +0800, John Lee wrote: > Dear community, > > I'm writing this to inform you that the optimization team is > dismissed, so there won't be weekly updates anymore. Further details > and reasons behind this are inappropriate to be answered by me. And you switched your email from .com to .org ... please spare us the politically correct, bring the gossip ! Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)
On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 10:47 +0100, KaZeR wrote: > > > -Message d'origine- > > De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de > > Xavier Bestel > > Envoyé : mardi 9 décembre 2008 10:15 > > À : List for Openmoko community discussion > > Objet : Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06) > > > > On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 11:44 +0800, John Lee wrote: > > > On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 12:16:03PM +0100, Xavier Bestel wrote: > > > > On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 11:24 -0800, Christoph Siegenthaler wrote: > > > > > I've been testing todays openmoko-testing-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 > > > > > together with testing-om-gta02-20081207.uImage.bin > > after following > > > > > the ML without actually flashing my freerunner a lot > > (for a few weeks). > > > > > > > > BTW I just tested these images too, and I have no wifi (i.e. the > > > > settings allow to turn on GPS and Bluetooth, buth there's > > no more a > > > > WIFI entry). Is that expected ? > > > > > > > > Xav > > > > > > yes. please refer to > > > > > > https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2003 > > > > Mmh .. the ticket reads: > > Summary: > > Please take out suspend time "10 sec." > > So we only left 30 seconds, 60 seconds and Off. > > Let's but this in Milestone Om2008.10. > > > > I couldn't find an equivalent ticket in trac. > > > > In the first comment : > > commit log: disable wifi frontend (backend currently broken) Ugh. :( Thanks for the hint. Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)
On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 11:44 +0800, John Lee wrote: > On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 12:16:03PM +0100, Xavier Bestel wrote: > > On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 11:24 -0800, Christoph Siegenthaler wrote: > > > I've been testing todays openmoko-testing-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 together > > > with testing-om-gta02-20081207.uImage.bin after following the ML without > > > actually flashing my freerunner a lot (for a few weeks). > > > > BTW I just tested these images too, and I have no wifi (i.e. the > > settings allow to turn on GPS and Bluetooth, buth there's no more a WIFI > > entry). Is that expected ? > > > > Xav > > yes. please refer to > > https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2003 Mmh .. the ticket reads: Summary: Please take out suspend time "10 sec." So we only left 30 seconds, 60 seconds and Off. Let's but this in Milestone Om2008.10. I couldn't find an equivalent ticket in trac. Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)
On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 11:24 -0800, Christoph Siegenthaler wrote: > I've been testing todays openmoko-testing-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 together > with testing-om-gta02-20081207.uImage.bin after following the ML without > actually flashing my freerunner a lot (for a few weeks). BTW I just tested these images too, and I have no wifi (i.e. the settings allow to turn on GPS and Bluetooth, buth there's no more a WIFI entry). Is that expected ? Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: andy-tracking kernel?
On Thu, 2008-12-04 at 13:54 +0100, arne anka wrote: > > improved in andy-tracking. If it's due to firmware trouble, probably > > this will never be fixed due to Atheros closed firmware policies. > > wasn't there recently a release of an completely open atheros driver? > > http://www.heise-online.co.uk/news/MadWifi-HAL-now-open-source--/112113 > or did that not apply to the chip used in the fr? There are working drivers for ath5k and ath9k, but the Neo has an ath6k ... Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: andy-tracking kernel?
On Thu, 2008-12-04 at 11:38 +, Andy Green wrote: > I must confess that, as I wanted to use my Neo as a sort of > | internet tablet, it now just gathers dust somewhere, waiting for a WiFi > | fix. > > Changing the SDIO stack is enough of a jolt it's probably worth blowing > the dust off and having another go according to your optimism / schedule > :-) At any rate if you do this please post on kernel list about your > experiences. Right, I'll try in my copious spare time. Would it be possible for you to put a small README in your directory, to explain how to use these files ? Even if it's just a pointer to somewhere on the wiki, it'd be great. Thanks, Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: andy-tracking kernel?
On Thu, 2008-12-04 at 09:55 +, Andy Green wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > | Hi Andy, > | > | On Wed, 2008-12-03 at 16:36 +, Andy Green wrote: > |> ~ - WLAN driver now uses mainline SDIO stack (should fix some probs) > | > | Does that mean WiFi is working now ? > > Wifi has been working (for some values of working) for a long while... > what bad behaviour does "not working" look like for you? Well, if you ask for it: - can only connect through command-line (not that important) - weak signal - connexion lasts only for a few minutes - after connexion is lost, reconnecting nearly always involves rebooting I think I already sent the kernel messages that appear in that case somewhere. I must confess that, as I wanted to use my Neo as a sort of internet tablet, it now just gathers dust somewhere, waiting for a WiFi fix. HTH, Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: andy-tracking kernel?
Hi Andy, On Wed, 2008-12-03 at 16:36 +, Andy Green wrote: > ~ - WLAN driver now uses mainline SDIO stack (should fix some probs) Does that mean WiFi is working now ? Thanks, Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Back to the basics: improving user experience
On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 15:47 +0800, John Lee wrote: > Hi, > > Like Wolfgang said in > http://n2.nabble.com/Weekly-Engineering-News-41-2008-td1336450.html > > We assembled a team to focus on improving the user experience. Here > is our todo list at the moment: > > * Reduce boot time. > > * Optimize the touch screen driver on freerunner for finger usage. > > * A generic python loader to enhance the start up time of python > scripts. > > * Work with system team to improve suspend/resume user experience. > > > I would like to ask the community: > > What do you want us to work on? Definately a working WiFi driver (the current one is half-working only, just have a look at opened bug reports). Generally more working low-level stuff. Thanks, Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMooCow 0.1
As far as I understand, it should mimick that toy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GQ126DUsyQ&NR=1 Xav On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 17:19 +0200, Thomas Bertani wrote: > sorry I can't understand what this software is. is there a video or > image aviable? > > 2008/10/15 Joseph Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I just loaded this onto a colleagues phone - he said he wanted a cat > > and suggested the name OpenMeowKo > > > > :) > > > > > > > > 2008/10/14 Thomas White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> I'm pleased to be able to announce version 0.1 of my "advanced > >> accelerometer and audio framework testing system", OpenMooCow. > >> Available from http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~taw27/openmoko/openmoocow/ > >> > >> When installed and run, OpenMooCow displays an artistic rendition of > >> a fine specimen of Friesian dairy cattle. Invert the device and return > >> it to an upright orientation to experience the pinnacle of audio > >> rendering "kwality". > >> > >> The sound effect can be altered by putting a suitable WAV file > >> in /usr/share/openmoocow/moo.wav. A credit is due to Chris Hendricks > >> who is the author of the original sound file (obtained from > >> www.flashkit.com). > >> > >> Comments/abuse to this address. > >> > >> Tom > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Thomas White > >> Department of Materials Science and Metallurgy > >> Electron Microscopy Group (PhD Student) > >> University of Cambridge / Downing College > >> > >> ___ > >> Openmoko community mailing list > >> community@lists.openmoko.org > >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > >> > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.9] Wifi very unreliable
Le jeudi 09 octobre 2008 à 09:10 -0700, Michael Shiloh a écrit : > Xavier Bestel wrote: > > I always use the manual iwconfig+udhcpc method. It works most of the > > time right after reboot, but often looses the network after a few > > minutes (sometimes it works for hals an hour). After that, redoing the > > iwconfig sometimes works, sometimes not and another reboot is in order. > > > Very interesting. Do you kill udhcpc in between invokations? I think > it's a daemon. Yes (in fact I tried both ways). > Of course the real issue is why in looses the connection. I presume you > have suspend disabled? Yes. > Have you tried a different channel? One of my neighbors is on a close > channel and things got better when I changed my AP to an unused channel. > iwlist is a great help here. I didn't try that, but every other wifi device had no problem so far. Changing the channel on the other end is a bit tricky. > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Wifi#Disable_power_management > suggests that power management caused problems. You might try this too. I tried that long ago, thought I found the magic bullet at first, but nowadays it seems it doesn nothing. > Please let us know what works and what doesn't. Better yet add it to the > wiki. HTH, Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.9] Wifi very unreliable
On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 16:19 -0700, Michael Shiloh wrote: > Just did that. I reorganized the WLAN page and incoporated a number of > community suggestions, including Tom's. > > In particular, this should work for most people: > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Wifi#Using_iwconfig_manually > > Feedback and other working examples appreciated. Is feedback by mail ok ? I always use the manual iwconfig+udhcpc method. It works most of the time right after reboot, but often looses the network after a few minutes (sometimes it works for hals an hour). After that, redoing the iwconfig sometimes works, sometimes not and another reboot is in order. HTH, Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The Lost Openmoko Community
Le samedi 04 octobre 2008 à 13:22 -0600, Angus Ainslie a écrit : > Wifi is "working" as well as any basic distro install. You need to > edit /etc/network/interfaces and or wpa_supplicant.conf but it is > working. Nope. No amount of scripting and tinkering will change the fact that the kernel driver is broken. It may work in some specific conditions, but it'll fail in others. That said, I admit people buying a Freerunner thinking it would work out of the box got it wrong. It's still a hacker's toy. Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.9] Wifi very unreliable
On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 17:36 +0530, Nishit Dave wrote: > On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Xavier Bestel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 16:58 +0530, Nishit Dave wrote: > > > > All this discussion does not help if you realize that even > after > > placing the FR *next* to the blooming router, you get > reported a > > signal strength of 65%. What does the hardware expect, > building the > > router *inside* the FR? > > > Note that interferences may weaken an otherwise perfectly good > signal. > So the proximity isn't always synonymous with good signal > strengh. > >Xav > > No? Well, the closer you are, the better the signal is. But in my building, there are many other wifi networks. And in the evening, when they are all in use, I get a worst signal even when near my AP, whereas e.g. during the night it's better. At least I seem to have observed that. Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.9] Wifi very unreliable
On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 16:58 +0530, Nishit Dave wrote: > All this discussion does not help if you realize that even after > placing the FR *next* to the blooming router, you get reported a > signal strength of 65%. What does the hardware expect, building the > router *inside* the FR? Note that interferences may weaken an otherwise perfectly good signal. So the proximity isn't always synonymous with good signal strengh. Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.9] Wifi very unreliable
On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 11:42 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote:
> El día Tuesday, September 30, 2008 a las 11:28:18AM +0200, Xavier Bestel
> escribió:
>
> > On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 11:06 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I'm using the Wifi-method described in
> > >
> > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Wifi#Using_WPA_and_.2Fetc.2Fnetwork.2Finterfaces
> > >
> > > i.e. having a working config file /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
> > > for all my known access points (which is just a copy of that I'm using
> > > daily and stable in my two FreeBSD based laptops); and I'm trying to bring
> > > up the eth0 with
> > >
> > > # ifup eth0
> > >
> > > this works very unreliable; in (let's say) 8 of 10 cases it can't
> > > associate to the AP, even not after fresh re-boots and independently if
> > > the AP at my home works with WEP or in my office with WPA;
> >
> > I found that, for WEP networking, the only working way is to manually
> > configure the interface:
> > iwconfig eth0 key
> > iwconfig eth0 essid
> > udhcpc eth0
>
> As I said, with WEP at home I have had it working today morning (sometimes)
> with:
>
> # cat /etc/network/interfaces
> ...
> iface eth0 inet dhcp
> wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
> up route del default gw 192.168.0.200
> down route add default gw 192.168.0.200
>
> # cat /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
> ...
> eapol_version=1
> ap_scan=1
> fast_reauth=1
> network={
> ssid="tarara"
> scan_ssid=0
> key_mgmt=NONE
> wep_tx_keyidx=0
> wep_key0=
> }
>
> and then the eth0 just comes up (sometimes) with:
>
> # ifup eth0
>
> and DHCP IP and DNS from my AP;
>
> there are some minor bugs in the two shell scripts
> /etc/wpa_supplicant/*.sh which I've had to fix too (sed of busybox does not
> know the flag --quiet);
Look at 'dmesg'. When the wifi driver starts spewing messages about
failed connexions, in my experience the device is hosed.
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Re: [2008.9] Wifi very unreliable
On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 11:06 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > Hello, > > I'm using the Wifi-method described in > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Wifi#Using_WPA_and_.2Fetc.2Fnetwork.2Finterfaces > > i.e. having a working config file /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf > for all my known access points (which is just a copy of that I'm using > daily and stable in my two FreeBSD based laptops); and I'm trying to bring > up the eth0 with > > # ifup eth0 > > this works very unreliable; in (let's say) 8 of 10 cases it can't > associate to the AP, even not after fresh re-boots and independently if > the AP at my home works with WEP or in my office with WPA; I found that, for WEP networking, the only working way is to manually configure the interface: iwconfig eth0 key iwconfig eth0 essid udhcpc eth0 And even then, it's not guaranteed to work, or if it works, it won't for long. HTH, Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.9 GPS
Le lundi 22 septembre 2008 à 13:33 -0400, Matthew Lane a écrit : > I can't get my GPS to get a fix, even outside. I'm using the latest > 2008.9 distro from the wiki (as of 9/18/08). My Locations app shows a > map, attempts to get a fix, and always tells me I can't get a fix in > sunny weather! > > Is anyone else having this issue, or does anyone know of a solution? Never got a fix myself. Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WiFi doesn't work
On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 00:18 +1000, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir wrote: > The solution is absurdly simple. > Use udhcpc not dhclient. Both are installed on 2008.8, only udhcpc > does the right thing. So .. it works, thanks, but as noted by Tore it works only once after a reboot. Even letting the FR suspend causes the wifi to fail. I see there are some open bugs about wifi in the bug tracker. I think I'll let my FR sleep for a few weeks, waiting for the bugs to be resolved. Thanks, Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WiFi doesn't work
On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 00:18 +1000, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir wrote: > The solution is absurdly simple. > Use udhcpc not dhclient. Both are installed on 2008.8, only udhcpc > does the right thing. Thanks, I'll try when I'm back home (not today). Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WiFi doesn't work
On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 15:39 +0200, Tore Martin Hagen wrote: > Hi > > If you manage to get a DHCP reply it means that the WIFI connection is > OK. But my experience is that WIFI can only connect once. So to test out > the setup I would reboot. Do the iwconfig then do the ifconfig with a > know address and then see if you can ping. Now that's impractical, seeing how long the boot time is :( Ok, I'll try that. Or maybe some rmmod+modprobe first. Thanks, Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WiFi doesn't work
On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 14:28 +0200, Tore Martin Hagen wrote: > The problem is not WLAN but the dhcp client, as you see you get a > response, but then you send back a DHCPDECLINE. > > What you can do is to stop the dhcp client and then configure the > interface manually. > > ifconfig eth0 192.168.4.180 netmask 255.255.255.0 I tried that, but I couldn't get a ping to get through. Even after manually fiddling with routes to be sure they were setup correctly, I couldn't get anything to work. USB works perfectly though. Is the GUI thing (in "settings" from 2008.8) supposed to work with a WEP network ? Thanks, Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
WiFi doesn't work
Hi, I have a FR whith 2008.8 + latest updates, and I can't connect to any wifi network with the GUI. The "settings" page shows correctly the list of available APs, when I click on one it asks for a password, and that's all. At home, I have a WEP network (which is working very well), and I could try connecting with the commandline. An iwlist scan shows the APs, then iwconfig essid and key connect to the AP, but that's all. When I then run "dhclient eth0", it goes into an infinite loop where it receives an OFFER, then does a DECLINE. Here is the log seen from the server side (dnsmasq): Sep 10 23:37:17 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPREQUEST(ath0) 192.168.4.178 00:19:7d:87:60:4e Sep 10 23:37:17 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPACK(ath0) 192.168.4.178 00:19:7d:87:60:4e Sep 10 23:37:50 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPDISCOVER(ath0) 00:12:cf:8e:fe:59 Sep 10 23:37:50 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPOFFER(ath0) 192.168.4.179 00:12:cf:8e:fe:59 Sep 10 23:37:50 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPDISCOVER(ath0) 00:12:cf:8e:fe:59 Sep 10 23:37:50 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPOFFER(ath0) 192.168.4.179 00:12:cf:8e:fe:59 Sep 10 23:37:50 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPREQUEST(ath0) 192.168.4.179 00:12:cf:8e:fe:59 Sep 10 23:37:50 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPACK(ath0) 192.168.4.179 00:12:cf:8e:fe:59 Sep 10 23:37:50 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPDECLINE(ath0) 192.168.4.179 00:12:cf:8e:fe:59 Sep 10 23:37:53 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPDISCOVER(ath0) 00:12:cf:8e:fe:59 Sep 10 23:37:53 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPOFFER(ath0) 192.168.4.180 00:12:cf:8e:fe:59 Sep 10 23:37:53 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPREQUEST(ath0) 192.168.4.180 00:12:cf:8e:fe:59 Sep 10 23:37:53 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPACK(ath0) 192.168.4.180 00:12:cf:8e:fe:59 Sep 10 23:37:53 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPDECLINE(ath0) 192.168.4.180 00:12:cf:8e:fe:59 Sep 10 23:37:56 awak dnsmasq[14577]: DHCPDISCOVER(ath0) 00:12:cf:8e:fe:59 etc. dhclient on the FR shows the same kind of thing. Any hint ? Thanks, Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian -- better screen locking
On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 17:20 +0200, Marcel wrote:
> Am Dienstag 26 August 2008 12:11:33 schrieb arne anka:
> > > I'm also on Debian. Isn't it best we use a normal screen save and lock
> > > solution?. Something like xscreensaver, but I'm still not sure it can
> > > be used without a keyboard.
> >
> > as long as aux reliably produces a keyboard, that's no hindrance, isn't it?
>
> What about having the power button not directly make the phone go to suspend
> (if it even does) but popping up a menu ("lock", "suspend", "shutdown")
> instead, independent of the used stack/debian desktop?
The best way is to do it like Nokia:
- one short press on power to popup the menu, some other short presses
to navigate the menu items, one long press to select.
- or one long press to directly suspend/shutdown (in fact, that selects
the first menu item)
That's really really handy. The Nokia menu can shutdown, lock or change
profile.
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Hi, there's an updated image of 2008.8 from yesterday, I still haven't flashed it - does someone know if it's worth it, what's new inside ? Thanks, Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
