Re: A Call for community action
Nicola Mfb wrote: > 2008/10/5 Steve Mosher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Nope. nobody signed up. >> > > Hi Steve, > I think it's not easy to involve the community in a specific task as bug > fixing. I like challenging tasks. > > According to me: > * this requires high knowledge and systematic approach, so only a part of > community may be affected > * too many peoples thinks they already paid for a phone and the paid > openmoko developers should fix bugs (I do not think this!!!) > * there is a lack of information about future direction of the software > stack > * community peoples hacks openmoko for fun, so they want to spend their time > following their needs, passions and capabilities. Yes, personally as a programmer I loved finding and fixing other people's Bugs. I liked orignal development as well, but there was nothing that gave me a bigger thrill than fixing a bug in 5 minutes that some other guy had been studying for two weeks. to each his own. > > I report an example about me, I'm not a kernel guru, so I'll never take a > bug on suspend/resume and I'll not take a bug about qtopia on x11, as I > think it will not be used in the future, so why should I waste my time? > At the same time I like to develop with C++ and QT library, and the big part > of time spent on openmoko goes there. So you may find a lot of my threads in > this mailing-list about Qt, related bugs openened on the issue tracker here, > at openembedded and trolltech, a wiki page to help/be helped from other > peoples about qt developing etc. etc. I'm planning to write a qt application > to test dbus api on FSO, and as I need pan network over bluetooth that will > be my first try. As it seems there is nothing available when ready I'll be > happy to share it! > Only a part of problems i solved are available on mailing lists archives or > on the wiki due to lack of time. Great I look forward to seeing it. > > Consider now that a lot of peoples acts in a similiar manner, so a lot of > excited guys are working "randomly" on somethink, someone is able to use > python/gtk, someone is a distro guru etc. etc., they love to fix their own > problems and write their scripts that often will be never shared, becouse > they do not know that a lot of peoples may need it!!! Exactly. What could a community manager do to make sure these solutions were easily found, easily shared and promoted. > > So it should be easier to involve community in a "application wish list", in > a "how-to/documentation wish list" and in a "test suite". > These are simple and fun tasks. Wish lists are important we have several. I'm focused on accomplishment lists. > > Regards > > Nicola > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: A Call for community action
Hi Steve, Steve Mosher wrote: > My idea. throw these out to community and see if folks would pick a bug > and try to fix it, actually sign up to try to fix it, so we get a > coordinated effort. Sean liked the idea and I thought it was worth a try. I'm afraid I'm not using any of the Qtopia apps at the moment, which most of these issues are about. It's also not clear (at least to me) whether we can even make Qtopia contributions, which may be part of the reason you're not getting many takers. As far as I'm aware there's no public source code tracker and I guess Trolltech having a seperate proprietary version might make accepting patches somewhat complicated for them. (I'd be pleased to be corrected though.) > 5. 1493 : [system software] when press power button makes some noise > during suspend time(https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1493) I had a look at this (see my comments in the ticket) and managed to stop it, but it's not much of a solution. This probably needs somone who is more of a hardware person than me. Cheers, Alex ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: A Call for community action
Nicola Mfb wrote: > > 2008/10/5 Steve Mosher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I report an example about me, I'm not a kernel guru, so I'll never take a > bug on suspend/resume and I'll not take a bug about qtopia on x11, as I > think it will not be used in the future, so why should I waste my time? > At the same time I like to develop with C++ and QT library, and the big > part > of time spent on openmoko goes there. So you may find a lot of my threads > in > this mailing-list about Qt, related bugs openened on the issue tracker > here, > at openembedded and trolltech, a wiki page to help/be helped from other > peoples about qt developing etc. etc. I'm planning to write a qt > application > to test dbus api on FSO, and as I need pan network over bluetooth that > will > be my first try. As it seems there is nothing available when ready I'll be > happy to share it! > Only a part of problems i solved are available on mailing lists archives > or > on the wiki due to lack of time. > This is the right spirit of the community :D You can talk with quickdev ( on irc, freenode #openmoko-cdevel ) to help him with SHR, a distro driven by community that works with FSO. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/New-to-Freerunner%21%21-tp1120039p1303049.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: A Call for community action
2008/10/5 Steve Mosher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Nope. nobody signed up. > Hi Steve, I think it's not easy to involve the community in a specific task as bug fixing. According to me: * this requires high knowledge and systematic approach, so only a part of community may be affected * too many peoples thinks they already paid for a phone and the paid openmoko developers should fix bugs (I do not think this!!!) * there is a lack of information about future direction of the software stack * community peoples hacks openmoko for fun, so they want to spend their time following their needs, passions and capabilities. I report an example about me, I'm not a kernel guru, so I'll never take a bug on suspend/resume and I'll not take a bug about qtopia on x11, as I think it will not be used in the future, so why should I waste my time? At the same time I like to develop with C++ and QT library, and the big part of time spent on openmoko goes there. So you may find a lot of my threads in this mailing-list about Qt, related bugs openened on the issue tracker here, at openembedded and trolltech, a wiki page to help/be helped from other peoples about qt developing etc. etc. I'm planning to write a qt application to test dbus api on FSO, and as I need pan network over bluetooth that will be my first try. As it seems there is nothing available when ready I'll be happy to share it! Only a part of problems i solved are available on mailing lists archives or on the wiki due to lack of time. Consider now that a lot of peoples acts in a similiar manner, so a lot of excited guys are working "randomly" on somethink, someone is able to use python/gtk, someone is a distro guru etc. etc., they love to fix their own problems and write their scripts that often will be never shared, becouse they do not know that a lot of peoples may need it!!! So it should be easier to involve community in a "application wish list", in a "how-to/documentation wish list" and in a "test suite". These are simple and fun tasks. Regards Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: A Call for community action
Nope. nobody signed up. Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Steve Mosher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The other day I was pondering all the things the community does for us. >> They give us new ideas, test our product and give us honest feedback, >> keep us true to our commitment for openness ( the idea to release the >> CAD files came from the community, help us market the product, and they >> fix bugs. >> >> Recently I was reviewing the goals for 2008.10, and I wondered what else >> is on the list of things that need fixing. SO I asked the testing team >> to give me a list of bugs that didnt make the 2008.10 list. >> >> My idea. throw these out to community and see if folks would pick a bug >> and try to fix it, actually sign up to try to fix it, so we get a >> coordinated effort. Sean liked the idea and I thought it was worth a try. >> >> Here is the list of Bugs, look through the list and if your moved to >> action just respond with a mail to the list: > > Any of these fixed already? > > > r > > > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: A Call for community action
On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Steve Mosher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The other day I was pondering all the things the community does for us. > They give us new ideas, test our product and give us honest feedback, > keep us true to our commitment for openness ( the idea to release the > CAD files came from the community, help us market the product, and they > fix bugs. > > Recently I was reviewing the goals for 2008.10, and I wondered what else > is on the list of things that need fixing. SO I asked the testing team > to give me a list of bugs that didnt make the 2008.10 list. > > My idea. throw these out to community and see if folks would pick a bug > and try to fix it, actually sign up to try to fix it, so we get a > coordinated effort. Sean liked the idea and I thought it was worth a try. > > Here is the list of Bugs, look through the list and if your moved to > action just respond with a mail to the list: Any of these fixed already? r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
A Call for community action
The other day I was pondering all the things the community does for us. They give us new ideas, test our product and give us honest feedback, keep us true to our commitment for openness ( the idea to release the CAD files came from the community, help us market the product, and they fix bugs. Recently I was reviewing the goals for 2008.10, and I wondered what else is on the list of things that need fixing. SO I asked the testing team to give me a list of bugs that didnt make the 2008.10 list. My idea. throw these out to community and see if folks would pick a bug and try to fix it, actually sign up to try to fix it, so we get a coordinated effort. Sean liked the idea and I thought it was worth a try. Here is the list of Bugs, look through the list and if your moved to action just respond with a mail to the list: Subject line: I got bug #1234. And more than one person can work a bug. 1. 1442 : [Qtopia-Dialer] Dialing through the headset does not working (https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1442) 2. 1460 : [Qtopia-Dialer] number is cut if number is too long on call detail screen((https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1460) 3. 1483 : [Qtopia-Clock] The map shows black shadow short second when click country (https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1483) 4. 1490 : [Qtopia-Dialer] Join and Split function do not working during connecting third party call (https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1490) 5. 1493 : [system software] when press power button makes some noise during suspend time(https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1493) 6. 1499 : [Qtopia-Message] there is function to delete default template after create new template [ttps://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1499) 7. 1507 : [Qtopia-Message] Messages total number does not appear immediately when enter Messages Main screen (https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1507) 8. 1509 : [Qtopia-Message] Selected all of messages do not unselected after press back button(https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1509) 9. 1516 : [Qtopia-Message]It does not go back to Messages history tab from detail screen when press back button (https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1516) 10. 1524 : [Installer ] unable to uninstall kobodeluxe package through assassin (https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1524) 11. 1532 : [Qtopia-Clock] time and country displayed outside of screen on world map (https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1532) 12. 1547 :[ Qtopia-Message] Option menu is ugly when create new message (https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1547) 13. 1563 : [E-illume] unable to change 12hour time format(https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1563) 14. 1573 : [Qtopia-Email] Remove E-mail (https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1573) 15. 1604 : [Qtopia-Dialer] keypad will shows black bit if press "*" button 3 times quickly (https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1604) 16. 1621 : [System software]Occur white screen end of suspend, it happen only specific phone (https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1621) 17. 1630 : [Qtopia-Dialer]"holding attempt Failed" Alert message and unable to hold function with prepaid SIM (https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1630) 18. 1652 : [QT-Contact]add group members functionality is busted (https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1652) 19. 1736 : [Boot screen] it goes to sleep during Booting and never wake up (https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1736) 20. 1795 : [Qtopia-keyboard] missing keys (https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1795) 21. 1887 : [Qtopia-call screen] incoming call screen overlap with calendar (https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1887) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
